Guest JohnH Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 I was given a computer with a pirated XP Pro on it and found out only after running the validation software. Needless to say, I want this pc above board and want to install Windows 98 SE and then XP Home Upgade. I also want to remove any traces of the old owner as you never know what they put on the hard drive(ie..kiddie porn). I need detailed advice on how to proceed. I would also like to keep some of the programs that were loaded on it if possible. I hope someone can help and guide me through this as I have found confusing information on how to proceed and in what order. Thanks in advance to all who can help.
Guest Bob I Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 Re: Setting up PC Use the info here http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html JohnH wrote: > I was given a computer with a pirated XP Pro on it and found out only after > running the validation software. Needless to say, I want this pc above > board and want to install Windows 98 SE and then XP Home Upgade. I also want > to remove any traces of the old owner as you never know what they put on the > hard drive(ie..kiddie porn). I need detailed advice on how to proceed. I > would also like to keep some of the programs that were loaded on it if > possible. I hope someone can help and guide me through this as I have found > confusing information on how to proceed and in what order. Thanks in advance > to all who can help.
Guest JohnH Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 Re: Setting up PC It has XP Pro that I need to replace with Windows 98 SE because it was not a valid copy so I bought Windows 98 SE because I already have the XP Home upgrade software. I need to replace the XP Pro first. "Bob I" wrote: > Use the info here > http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html > > JohnH wrote: > > > I was given a computer with a pirated XP Pro on it and found out only after > > running the validation software. Needless to say, I want this pc above > > board and want to install Windows 98 SE and then XP Home Upgade. I also want > > to remove any traces of the old owner as you never know what they put on the > > hard drive(ie..kiddie porn). I need detailed advice on how to proceed. I > > would also like to keep some of the programs that were loaded on it if > > possible. I hope someone can help and guide me through this as I have found > > confusing information on how to proceed and in what order. Thanks in advance > > to all who can help. > >
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 Re: Setting up PC If you need advice about installing Win98 then you should post your question in a Win98 newsgroup. If you want to install a WinXP upgrade version then there is no need at all to install Win98 first. Simply boot the machine with your WinXP CD and proceed with a clean installation. When prompted, insert the Win98 CD. "JohnH" <JohnH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:DD176A1E-3F19-4D4A-A383-E4506C09A001@microsoft.com... > It has XP Pro that I need to replace with Windows 98 SE because it was not > a > valid copy so I bought Windows 98 SE because I already have the XP Home > upgrade software. I need to replace the XP Pro first. > > "Bob I" wrote: > >> Use the info here >> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html >> >> JohnH wrote: >> >> > I was given a computer with a pirated XP Pro on it and found out only >> > after >> > running the validation software. Needless to say, I want this pc >> > above >> > board and want to install Windows 98 SE and then XP Home Upgade. I >> > also want >> > to remove any traces of the old owner as you never know what they put >> > on the >> > hard drive(ie..kiddie porn). I need detailed advice on how to proceed. >> > I >> > would also like to keep some of the programs that were loaded on it if >> > possible. I hope someone can help and guide me through this as I have >> > found >> > confusing information on how to proceed and in what order. Thanks in >> > advance >> > to all who can help. >> >>
Guest C J. Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 Re: Setting up PC Why not do what I did... Low level format the drive with manufacturers disk utility, and then perform a "clean install" of Windows XP Home ED. You can use the Windows 98 SE CD to qualify for the installation of the Upgrade. It worked sweet for me on a laptop. Best way, esp If you don't care about the stuff former owner had on their PC. JohnH <JohnH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > It has XP Pro that I need to replace with Windows 98 SE because it was > not a valid copy so I bought Windows 98 SE because I already have the XP > Home upgrade software. I need to replace the XP Pro first. > > "Bob I" wrote: > >> Use the info here >> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html >> >> JohnH wrote: >> >>> I was given a computer with a pirated XP Pro on it and found out only >>> after running the validation software. Needless to say, I want this >>> pc above board and want to install Windows 98 SE and then XP Home >>> Upgade. I also want to remove any traces of the old owner as you never >>> know what they put on the hard drive(ie..kiddie porn). I need detailed >>> advice on how to proceed. I would also like to keep some of the >>> programs that were loaded on it if possible. I hope someone can help >>> and guide me through this as I have found confusing information on how >>> to proceed and in what order. Thanks in advance to all who can help.
Guest Ken Blake Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 Re: Setting up PC "JohnH" <JohnH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7D5A47FD-55FD-40E7-AFFD-5D145457E665@microsoft.com... >I was given a computer with a pirated XP Pro on it and found out only after > running the validation software. Needless to say, I want this pc above > board and want to install Windows 98 SE and then XP Home Upgade. I also > want > to remove any traces of the old owner as you never know what they put on > the > hard drive(ie..kiddie porn). Exactly. I agree completely. > I need detailed advice on how to proceed. If I bought a used computer, the first thing I would do with it would be to reinstall the operating system cleanly. You have no idea how the computer has been maintained, what has been installed incorrectly, what is missing, what viruses and spyware there may be, etc. I wouldn't want to live with somebody else's mistakes and problems, possibility of kiddie porn, etc., and I wouldn't recommend that anyone else do either. I > would also like to keep some of the programs that were loaded on it if > possible. You can *not*. If you follow the advice above, you will also have to reinstall the programs. Do you have the installation media (CDs) for them? If not, you don't have legal copies of those either. -- Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup
Guest JohnH Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 Re: Setting up PC That is where I am at. I put the windows 98 cd in and rebooted but it still loads the windows XP Pro. If I hit the F8 key the options of going into safe mode and other choices are there. Which should I choose to get it to load the Windows 98 cd? Should I uninstall the XP Pro prior to doing this? I do not think there is another OS on it so if I uninstall it will I then be able to load the new Windows 98 cd? I apologize if I have offended some people because I did not go to the 98 newsgroup but because of having the pirated XP Pro on it now is why I started here. I am new at this and was just looking for some guidance. "Ken Blake" wrote: > "JohnH" <JohnH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:7D5A47FD-55FD-40E7-AFFD-5D145457E665@microsoft.com... > > >I was given a computer with a pirated XP Pro on it and found out only after > > running the validation software. Needless to say, I want this pc above > > board and want to install Windows 98 SE and then XP Home Upgade. I also > > want > > to remove any traces of the old owner as you never know what they put on > > the > > hard drive(ie..kiddie porn). > > > Exactly. I agree completely. > > > > I need detailed advice on how to proceed. > > If I bought a used computer, the first thing I would do with it would be to > reinstall the operating system cleanly. You have no idea how the computer > has been maintained, what has been installed incorrectly, what is missing, > what viruses and spyware there may be, etc. I wouldn't want to live with > somebody else's mistakes and problems, possibility of kiddie porn, etc., and > I wouldn't recommend that anyone else do either. > > I > > would also like to keep some of the programs that were loaded on it if > > possible. > > > You can *not*. If you follow the advice above, you will also have to > reinstall the programs. > > Do you have the installation media (CDs) for them? If not, you don't have > legal copies of those either. > > -- > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User > Please reply to the newsgroup > > >
Guest Phisherman Posted July 11, 2007 Posted July 11, 2007 Re: Setting up PC On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:22:00 -0700, JohnH <JohnH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >I was given a computer with a pirated XP Pro on it and found out only after >running the validation software. Needless to say, I want this pc above >board and want to install Windows 98 SE and then XP Home Upgade. I also want >to remove any traces of the old owner as you never know what they put on the >hard drive(ie..kiddie porn). I need detailed advice on how to proceed. I >would also like to keep some of the programs that were loaded on it if >possible. I hope someone can help and guide me through this as I have found >confusing information on how to proceed and in what order. Thanks in advance >to all who can help. Create a bootable disc and put edit, format, and fdisk on it. Make sure you have all the necessary drivers for your CD/DVD drive, disc controller, mobo, video. Backup the machine. Set your BIOS to boot from the CD and boot from your Windows 98SE CD. If that doesn't work, boot from your floppy, verify that you can access the CD drive, fdisk, format, then run the Win98 setup from the drive. Get all the critical MS updates, install your favorite anti-virus.
Guest Malke Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Re: Setting up PC Phisherman wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:22:00 -0700, JohnH > <JohnH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> I was given a computer with a pirated XP Pro on it and found out only after >> running the validation software. Needless to say, I want this pc above >> board and want to install Windows 98 SE and then XP Home Upgade. I also want >> to remove any traces of the old owner as you never know what they put on the >> hard drive(ie..kiddie porn). I need detailed advice on how to proceed. I >> would also like to keep some of the programs that were loaded on it if >> possible. I hope someone can help and guide me through this as I have found >> confusing information on how to proceed and in what order. Thanks in advance >> to all who can help. > > > Create a bootable disc and put edit, format, and fdisk on it. Make > sure you have all the necessary drivers for your CD/DVD drive, disc > controller, mobo, video. Backup the machine. Set your BIOS to boot > from the CD and boot from your Windows 98SE CD. If that doesn't work, > boot from your floppy, verify that you can access the CD drive, fdisk, > format, then run the Win98 setup from the drive. Get all the critical > MS updates, install your favorite anti-virus. This is completely unnecessary. The OP has already been told he doesn't need to install Win98 first in order to install an upgrade copy of XP Home. His problem is now that he hasn't set his boot order to boot from the CD drive first. To the OP: Start your computer and press a key to get into the BIOS. What keypress you do depends on your computer. See this for getting into your BIOS: http://michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/reference/biosp.htm http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000235.htm Once you are in the BIOS ("Setup"), look for the entry for Boot Order and change the order to your CD/DVD drive first, hard drive second. Put your XP Home Upgrade CD in the drive now. Exit the BIOS, saving changes. The computer will reboot and you should see the light on your CD drive go on. You will now see a message that says "Press any key to boot from CD". Press any key. Then follow installations instructions here: http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html - Clean Install How-To http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Reinstalling_Windows - What you will need on-hand Early in the XP install, you will be prompted to supply your Win98 disk. Put the Win98 disk in the drive when prompted. The XP install will continue and then will prompt you to put the XP install disk back in. Do so. Put the Win98 disk away because you are done with it for now. Don't lose it because you will need it if you ever need to reinstall the XP upgrade. After you finish the XP install, install drivers for all your hardware, install desired programs, restore data from backups. Malke -- Elephant Boy Computers http://www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Guest JohnH Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Re: Setting up PC I attemted it and it did not ask for the 98 disk and went into install. It prompted a warning that placing XP Home on a partition with an existing OS "may cause it to function improperly". Is this warning normal or do I have to remove the XP Pro prior? I went back to the prior screen and I have two spaces available: 1. C: partition1 [NTFS] 19461 MB, 2. Unpartitioned space: 7 MB. Can I delete the unpartitioned space? It gave me the option to delete any if I so choose. I have stopped there and await your response. Thanks for the help "Malke" wrote: > Phisherman wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:22:00 -0700, JohnH > > <JohnH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > > >> I was given a computer with a pirated XP Pro on it and found out only after > >> running the validation software. Needless to say, I want this pc above > >> board and want to install Windows 98 SE and then XP Home Upgade. I also want > >> to remove any traces of the old owner as you never know what they put on the > >> hard drive(ie..kiddie porn). I need detailed advice on how to proceed. I > >> would also like to keep some of the programs that were loaded on it if > >> possible. I hope someone can help and guide me through this as I have found > >> confusing information on how to proceed and in what order. Thanks in advance > >> to all who can help. > > > > > > Create a bootable disc and put edit, format, and fdisk on it. Make > > sure you have all the necessary drivers for your CD/DVD drive, disc > > controller, mobo, video. Backup the machine. Set your BIOS to boot > > from the CD and boot from your Windows 98SE CD. If that doesn't work, > > boot from your floppy, verify that you can access the CD drive, fdisk, > > format, then run the Win98 setup from the drive. Get all the critical > > MS updates, install your favorite anti-virus. > > This is completely unnecessary. The OP has already been told he doesn't > need to install Win98 first in order to install an upgrade copy of XP > Home. His problem is now that he hasn't set his boot order to boot from > the CD drive first. > > To the OP: Start your computer and press a key to get into the BIOS. > What keypress you do depends on your computer. See this for getting into > your BIOS: > > http://michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm > http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/reference/biosp.htm > http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000235.htm > > Once you are in the BIOS ("Setup"), look for the entry for Boot Order > and change the order to your CD/DVD drive first, hard drive second. Put > your XP Home Upgrade CD in the drive now. Exit the BIOS, saving changes. > The computer will reboot and you should see the light on your CD drive > go on. You will now see a message that says "Press any key to boot from > CD". Press any key. Then follow installations instructions here: > > http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html - Clean Install How-To > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Reinstalling_Windows - > What you will need on-hand > > Early in the XP install, you will be prompted to supply your Win98 disk. > Put the Win98 disk in the drive when prompted. The XP install will > continue and then will prompt you to put the XP install disk back in. Do > so. Put the Win98 disk away because you are done with it for now. Don't > lose it because you will need it if you ever need to reinstall the XP > upgrade. > > After you finish the XP install, install drivers for all your hardware, > install desired programs, restore data from backups. > > > Malke > -- > Elephant Boy Computers > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com > "Don't Panic!" > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User >
Guest Malke Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Re: Setting up PC JohnH wrote: > I attemted it and it did not ask for the 98 disk and went into install. It > prompted a warning that placing XP Home on a partition with an existing OS > "may cause it to function improperly". Is this warning normal or do I have > to remove the XP Pro prior? I went back to the prior screen and I have two > spaces available: 1. C: partition1 [NTFS] 19461 MB, 2. Unpartitioned space: > 7 MB. Can I delete the unpartitioned space? It gave me the option to delete > any if I so choose. I have stopped there and await your response. Thanks > for the help It would be really helpful if you would take the time to read all the links you've been given. All your questions would have been answered. Start over at the point where you put in the XP install CD. Delete all partitions. Create one new partition. Format it NTFS. Install Windows into this new partition. READ THE INSTRUCTIONS AT THE LINKS! If you really can't figure this out, take the machine to a reputable computer repair shop. This will not be your local version of BigComputerStore/GeekSquad. Malke -- Elephant Boy Computers http://www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Guest Daave Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Re: Setting up PC JohnH wrote: > I attemted it and it did not ask for the 98 disk and went into > install. Which directions are you using? I suggest these: "Clean Install Windows XP," which can be found at: http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html [Excerpt:] "9. If you are using the upgrade version of XP on a computer without any version of Windows currently installed, this is where you will replace the XP CD with your qualifying CD, XP setup will scan the qualifying CD and instruct you to replace it with the XP CD to continue XP setup; otherwise, you will not see this screen. Clean install qualifying media can be any of the following Win NT3.51, 4.0, 2000, Win 95, 98, Me and XP Home when upgrading to XP Pro." I know you said you had a dodgy version of XP Pro installed on your PC, but this is immaterial because you are performing a clean install. And as long as you have qualifying media (e.g., a Windows 98 installation disk), you can perform a clean install with your Windows XP Upgrade disc. *Do* you have an installation disk for 98? Or is it merely an OEM recovery disk? If the latter, this could be problem. See: [Excerpt:] "You will need to have a qualifying Win98/Me/2000 CD to insert if you are using an upgrade version of XP to clean install. OEM restore disks will usually not fulfill the qualifying requirement. If the restore disk has a i386 folder, it will usually work." So what kind of 98 disc do you have? Oh, and... READ THE DIRECTIONS CAREFULLY!!!
Guest JohnH Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Re: Setting up PC I purchased a new Windows 98 SE OS full product with the product key. I did not previously have this and you all were right that they would ask for it and that is why I bought it. I did not mean to offend to PC gods by simply asking more questions but I must of misunderstood what this newsgroup purpose was. I thought it was to help people who were not proficient by those who are. Maybe a disclaimer that only knowledgable people submit requests. I apologize if I upset a few but thanks all for your help. My overcatious nature tends to make me check all procedures due to the damage a change may cause. I did read all the links but they were for an XP clean install and I was told I had to have the Windows 98 SE in the system prior to running the upgrade. "Daave" wrote: > JohnH wrote: > > I attemted it and it did not ask for the 98 disk and went into > > install. > > Which directions are you using? > > I suggest these: > > "Clean Install Windows XP," which can be found at: > http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html > > [Excerpt:] > > "9. If you are using the upgrade version of XP on a computer without any > version of Windows currently installed, this is where you will replace > the XP CD with your qualifying CD, XP setup will scan the qualifying CD > and instruct you to replace it with the XP CD to continue XP setup; > otherwise, you will not see this screen. Clean install qualifying media > can be any of the following Win NT3.51, 4.0, 2000, Win 95, 98, Me and XP > Home when upgrading to XP Pro." > > I know you said you had a dodgy version of XP Pro installed on your PC, > but this is immaterial because you are performing a clean install. And > as long as you have qualifying media (e.g., a Windows 98 installation > disk), you can perform a clean install with your Windows XP Upgrade > disc. > > *Do* you have an installation disk for 98? Or is it merely an OEM > recovery disk? If the latter, this could be problem. See: > > [Excerpt:] > > "You will need to have a qualifying Win98/Me/2000 CD to insert if you > are using an upgrade version of XP to clean install. OEM restore disks > will usually not fulfill the qualifying requirement. If the restore disk > has a i386 folder, it will usually work." > > So what kind of 98 disc do you have? > > Oh, and... > READ THE DIRECTIONS CAREFULLY!!! > > >
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Re: Setting up PC "JohnH" <JohnH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7D5A47FD-55FD-40E7-AFFD-5D145457E665@microsoft.com... >I was given a computer with a pirated XP Pro on it and found out only after > running the validation software. Needless to say, I want this pc above > board and want to install Windows 98 SE and then XP Home Upgade. Whoah! You do NOT need to do this. You do NOT need to install W98 first. Don't do it this way! It's a wholly unnecessary waste if time. Boot from the XP Home Upgrade CD, NOT the Win9X CD. The W9X CD is only for showing proof of purchase. Start the XP Home Upgrade install, and you will be asked for the W98 CD. Put it in, and after a few moments you'll be asked for the XP Cd to proceed with the XP install. You could potentially need an ME CD for this. You can then put the W98 CD away. This one step is all you need to keep that CD for. Moments, not hours, and no trash written to drive and promptly overwritten. You'll next be asked where to install to, and this is where you will remove listed partitions, recreate them, and then format them. And that step is going to take care of your next concern.... > I also want > to remove any traces of the old owner as you never know what they put on > the > hard drive(ie..kiddie porn). You arent'g going to need to worry about that, because your plan, as stated, requires formatting the drive. Best to start with removing and recreating the partitions, but the point is the same: You will have to clear the drive to do what you want to do. Or, better yet, leave the drive as it is. Instead, take it out and replace it. It is trivial to do this, and cheap. A new 80 gig drive, will be under CDN$50. In fact, this afternoon I purchased a new 250 gig SATA drive for CDN$75. Once done, you have *no* cause for concern over anything the previous owner had on the system. And, this will give you some options in future as to its contents, and remove concerns over the life left in that drive. Just wrap up the drive, identify it, and set it aside for now. Take the old drive out, put the new one in. Buy the same type (IDE - IDE, or SATA - SATA), get the biggest cache you can, and set the jumpers the same on the new one as the old. If you're unsure, take the old drive with you to the store, and say "I need a new one that connects like this". Get one with more space, higher RPM's (to a max of 7200) and a larger cache. These will make the system seem faster and last longer. While you're there, ask them to set the jumpers the same (assuming it isn't SATA, where that doesn't apply). Take the new drive home, plug it in, let the BIOS detect it, and start the install. > I need detailed advice on how to proceed. I > would also like to keep some of the programs that were loaded on it if > possible. That's not going to be possible given what you want to do. In the first place, if the OS is pirated, it's very likely that apps were too, and those will require activation as well. And it appears you wished to legitimize the system. In the second first place, removing the old XP Pro and installing XP Home requires formatting the drive. The apps will be *gone*. In the third third place, those apps will need to be reinstalled due to the hundreds of registry entries and files they create. You just can't copy them. For most serious apps, that simply doesn't work. > I hope someone can help and guide me through this as I have found > confusing information on how to proceed and in what order. See above. > Thanks in advance > to all who can help. Do some Google searching on "Clean Install XP". The only difference is the bit making the Upgrade CD work, and you have the disk for that. I would suggest that you do consider replacing the hard drive. Then, if you have any problems during the upgrade install, you can be *certain* that it has nothing to do with what was on the drive before. And that certainty may well be worth the price of the drive. HTH -pk
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Re: Setting up PC "JohnH" <JohnH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5B5D9AFC-9330-4B59-BDF3-CB9E9757FFA4@microsoft.com... >I purchased a new Windows 98 SE OS full product with the product key. Frankly, you don't need the W98 key. You need the CD for about a minute, and will never be asked for the key. This assumes that the XP CD you have *is* an Upgrade version, which is only available in retail packaging. < I did > not previously have this and you all were right that they would ask for it > and that is why I bought it. I did not mean to offend to PC gods by > simply > asking more questions but I must of misunderstood what this newsgroup > purpose > was. I thought it was to help people who were not proficient by those who > are. Maybe a disclaimer that only knowledgable people submit requests. I > apologize if I upset a few but thanks all for your help. My overcatious > nature tends to make me check all procedures due to the damage a change > may > cause. I did read all the links but they were for an XP clean install and > I > was told I had to have the Windows 98 SE in the system prior to running > the > upgrade. This is incorrect information. The drive can be brand-new, with no created partitions, or the upgrade can run from an installed 98 system. What you do have to have, for the upgrade qualification, is a proof of purchase - and that can be a CD that doesnt even have to be yours. There are no ownership or validation checks on this, aside from qualifying version (i.e Win98 woin't work). HTH -pk > > "Daave" wrote: > >> JohnH wrote: >> > I attemted it and it did not ask for the 98 disk and went into >> > install. >> >> Which directions are you using? >> >> I suggest these: >> >> "Clean Install Windows XP," which can be found at: >> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html >> >> [Excerpt:] >> >> "9. If you are using the upgrade version of XP on a computer without any >> version of Windows currently installed, this is where you will replace >> the XP CD with your qualifying CD, XP setup will scan the qualifying CD >> and instruct you to replace it with the XP CD to continue XP setup; >> otherwise, you will not see this screen. Clean install qualifying media >> can be any of the following Win NT3.51, 4.0, 2000, Win 95, 98, Me and XP >> Home when upgrading to XP Pro." >> >> I know you said you had a dodgy version of XP Pro installed on your PC, >> but this is immaterial because you are performing a clean install. And >> as long as you have qualifying media (e.g., a Windows 98 installation >> disk), you can perform a clean install with your Windows XP Upgrade >> disc. >> >> *Do* you have an installation disk for 98? Or is it merely an OEM >> recovery disk? If the latter, this could be problem. See: >> >> [Excerpt:] >> >> "You will need to have a qualifying Win98/Me/2000 CD to insert if you >> are using an upgrade version of XP to clean install. OEM restore disks >> will usually not fulfill the qualifying requirement. If the restore disk >> has a i386 folder, it will usually work." >> >> So what kind of 98 disc do you have? >> >> Oh, and... >> READ THE DIRECTIONS CAREFULLY!!! >> >> >>
Guest Plato Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Re: Setting up PC =?Utf-8?B?Sm9obkg=?= wrote: > > I was given a computer with a pirated XP Pro on it and found out only after The first thing to do in such a case is delete all partitions and then install the OS you want to totally fresh. -- http://www.bootdisk.com/
Guest Lil' Dave Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Re: Setting up PC "JohnH" <JohnH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7D5A47FD-55FD-40E7-AFFD-5D145457E665@microsoft.com... >I was given a computer with a pirated XP Pro on it and found out only after > running the validation software. Needless to say, I want this pc above > board and want to install Windows 98 SE and then XP Home Upgade. I also > want > to remove any traces of the old owner as you never know what they put on > the > hard drive(ie..kiddie porn). I need detailed advice on how to proceed. I > would also like to keep some of the programs that were loaded on it if > possible. I hope someone can help and guide me through this as I have > found > confusing information on how to proceed and in what order. Thanks in > advance > to all who can help. Simple steps: 1. Using the hard drive manufacturers software on boot media appropriate to your PC, write zeroes to the hard drive. 2. Boot from the XP upgrade installation CD, when it seeks a qualifying product for upgrade, remove the CD and put the 98SE install CD in the tray and close. Install XP as usual including creating partition/formatting (formatting has no visible cue and happens automatically when creating a partition). See step 5, you might want to image this first before proceeding. 3. Install motherboard drivers and any other the drivers the PC and peripherals may require. DO NOT get any hardware drivers from MS update. 4. Install 3rd party application software. 5. When satisfied with installation and your tweaks, backup the PC to a removable hard drive with imaging software. Keep removable hard drive offline until you intend to restore this. Or, if you want to image your XP again for changes made. Never overwrite the original XP installation image. 6. Activate XP. Get any online updates appropriate to XP Home, and your 3rd party applications. Dave
Guest Tim Slattery Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Re: Setting up PC JohnH <JohnH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >That is where I am at. I put the windows 98 cd in and rebooted but it still >loads the windows XP Pro. Boot from the XP CD. It should present you with some options, including formatting the disk and installing from scratch. Do that. At some point in the process, since it's an upgrade disk, it will ask you for proof of a qualifying product. Put the Win98 CD in the drive at that point. When the install routine has satisfied itself, it will ask you to put the XP CD back in the drive and continue on its merry way. -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(DTS) Slattery_T@bls.gov http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
Guest Bob I Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Re: Setting up PC Your statement indicates that you haven't read through the procedure at the link provided. Please read through it, as your situation is explicitly covered in step 10b. JohnH wrote: > It has XP Pro that I need to replace with Windows 98 SE because it was not a > valid copy so I bought Windows 98 SE because I already have the XP Home > upgrade software. I need to replace the XP Pro first. > > "Bob I" wrote: > > >>Use the info here >>http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html >> >>JohnH wrote: >> >> >>>I was given a computer with a pirated XP Pro on it and found out only after >>>running the validation software. Needless to say, I want this pc above >>>board and want to install Windows 98 SE and then XP Home Upgade. I also want >>>to remove any traces of the old owner as you never know what they put on the >>>hard drive(ie..kiddie porn). I need detailed advice on how to proceed. I >>>would also like to keep some of the programs that were loaded on it if >>>possible. I hope someone can help and guide me through this as I have found >>>confusing information on how to proceed and in what order. Thanks in advance >>>to all who can help. >> >>
Guest Ken Blake Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Re: Setting up PC "JohnH" <JohnH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C2A97B07-B3F6-4BBB-9C3C-65E7B61A1EE8@microsoft.com... > That is where I am at. I put the windows 98 cd in and rebooted but it > still > loads the windows XP Pro. No, you're doing this wrong. First of all, you do *not* need to install Windows 98 at all. The requirement to use an upgrade version of Windows XP is to *own* a previous qualifying version's installation CD , not to have it installed. When setup doesn't find a previous qualifying version installed, it will prompt you to insert its CD as proof of ownership. Just insert the previous version's CD, and follow the prompts. Everything proceeds quite normally and quite legitimately. What you should be doing is booting from the Windows XP CD and doing a clean installation from there. To boot from the CD, you have to go into the BIOS setup program, and set the CD to be the first boot device. -- Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup > If I hit the F8 key the options of going into safe > mode and other choices are there. Which should I choose to get it to load > the Windows 98 cd? Should I uninstall the XP Pro prior to doing this? I > do > not think there is another OS on it so if I uninstall it will I then be > able > to load the new Windows 98 cd? I apologize if I have offended some people > because I did not go to the 98 newsgroup but because of having the pirated > XP > Pro on it now is why I started here. I am new at this and was just > looking > for some guidance. > > "Ken Blake" wrote: > >> "JohnH" <JohnH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:7D5A47FD-55FD-40E7-AFFD-5D145457E665@microsoft.com... >> >> >I was given a computer with a pirated XP Pro on it and found out only >> >after >> > running the validation software. Needless to say, I want this pc >> > above >> > board and want to install Windows 98 SE and then XP Home Upgade. I >> > also >> > want >> > to remove any traces of the old owner as you never know what they put >> > on >> > the >> > hard drive(ie..kiddie porn). >> >> >> Exactly. I agree completely. >> >> >> > I need detailed advice on how to proceed. >> >> If I bought a used computer, the first thing I would do with it would be >> to >> reinstall the operating system cleanly. You have no idea how the computer >> has been maintained, what has been installed incorrectly, what is >> missing, >> what viruses and spyware there may be, etc. I wouldn't want to live with >> somebody else's mistakes and problems, possibility of kiddie porn, etc., >> and >> I wouldn't recommend that anyone else do either. >> >> I >> > would also like to keep some of the programs that were loaded on it if >> > possible. >> >> >> You can *not*. If you follow the advice above, you will also have to >> reinstall the programs. >> >> Do you have the installation media (CDs) for them? If not, you don't >> have >> legal copies of those either. >> >> -- >> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User >> Please reply to the newsgroup >> >> >>
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