Wireless Zero Configuration

July 14, 2007

Trying to connect a notebook computer to a LAN. I looked through Services

and did not find Wireless Zero Configuration. Since this service is for

automatic configuration of 802.11 adapters it seems it should be running. I

ran Add/Remove software routine to load it onto the notebook and it is still

missing from the list of available services. Is there a configuration setting

needed

--

KC

July 14, 2007

Re: Wireless Zero Configuration

I am connecting wirelessly without Wireles Zero Configuration.

I used the CD that came with my notebook and ran the build in wireless setup

program.

peter

"KCav" <KCav@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:C78DB184-DA9A-4069-AFE3-81EC98627C80@microsoft.com...

> Trying to connect a notebook computer to a LAN. I looked through Services

> and did not find Wireless Zero Configuration. Since this service is for

> automatic configuration of 802.11 adapters it seems it should be running.

> I

> ran Add/Remove software routine to load it onto the notebook and it is

> still

> missing from the list of available services. Is there a configuration

> setting

> needed

> --

> KC

July 14, 2007

Re: Wireless Zero Configuration

Thank you or your reply Peter. I have the install Cd perhaps I will try using

it again.

--

KC

"peter" wrote:

> I am connecting wirelessly without Wireles Zero Configuration.

> I used the CD that came with my notebook and ran the build in wireless setup

> program.

> peter

> "KCav" <KCav@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:C78DB184-DA9A-4069-AFE3-81EC98627C80@microsoft.com...

> > Trying to connect a notebook computer to a LAN. I looked through Services

> > and did not find Wireless Zero Configuration. Since this service is for

> > automatic configuration of 802.11 adapters it seems it should be running.

> > I

> > ran Add/Remove software routine to load it onto the notebook and it is

> > still

> > missing from the list of available services. Is there a configuration

> > setting

> > needed

> > --

> > KC

>

July 14, 2007

Re: Wireless Zero Configuration

"KCav" <KCav@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Trying to connect a notebook computer to a LAN. I looked through Services

> and did not find Wireless Zero Configuration.

This may happen if a WLAN manufacturer's configuration tool is running in

the background. Note that these utilities were required under Win9x only

and should be removed under WinXP.

--

d-d

July 14, 2007

RE: Wireless Zero Configuration

I assume when you said you looked through Services, you meant the MMC

Services.msc - correct? Have you looked in the registry under

HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services for the WZCSVC service? It should be

there. Try using the Service Control command-line utility to configure the

service beyond the capability available in Services.msc GUI. The command is

SC. Try SC /? for a full description of this utilities capabilities.

While I always prefer to use the WZCSVC to configue my 802.11 apadters, the

suggestion Peter offered is a viable one if all you really care about is the

end result - getting connected.

Let us know what you learn.

--

JCB\1059

"KCav" wrote:

> Trying to connect a notebook computer to a LAN. I looked through Services

> and did not find Wireless Zero Configuration. Since this service is for

> automatic configuration of 802.11 adapters it seems it should be running. I

> ran Add/Remove software routine to load it onto the notebook and it is still

> missing from the list of available services. Is there a configuration setting

> needed

> --

> KC

July 14, 2007

Re: Wireless Zero Configuration

How should I identify an unnecessary service running in the background?

I entered net start at cmd prompt, and a list of running services were

displayed.

Also AdminTools | ComputerManagement | Services to see what services are

running.

--

KC

"Detlev Dreyer" wrote:

> "KCav" <KCav@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>

> > Trying to connect a notebook computer to a LAN. I looked through Services

> > and did not find Wireless Zero Configuration.

>

> This may happen if a WLAN manufacturer's configuration tool is running in

> the background. Note that these utilities were required under Win9x only

> and should be removed under WinXP.

>

> --

> d-d

>

July 14, 2007

Re: Wireless Zero Configuration

It appears you have already run the CD for the adapter you have. That

software may have hidden the WZCSVC from the Services list, instead of merely

disabling it, like some manufacturer's software will do. Try using

Add/Remove to uninstall the 3rd party software - use their CD only to acquire

the drivers for the adapter. Once you uninstall, the WZCSVC will likely

reappear in the Services.msc snap-in; then set for Automatic start-up and be

sure dependent services are also running.

--

JCB\1059

"KCav" wrote:

> Thank you or your reply Peter. I have the install Cd perhaps I will try using

> it again.

> --

> KC

>

> "peter" wrote:

>

> > I am connecting wirelessly without Wireles Zero Configuration.

> > I used the CD that came with my notebook and ran the build in wireless setup

> > program.

> > peter

> > "KCav" <KCav@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:C78DB184-DA9A-4069-AFE3-81EC98627C80@microsoft.com...

> > > Trying to connect a notebook computer to a LAN. I looked through Services

> > > and did not find Wireless Zero Configuration. Since this service is for

> > > automatic configuration of 802.11 adapters it seems it should be running.

> > > I

> > > ran Add/Remove software routine to load it onto the notebook and it is

> > > still

> > > missing from the list of available services. Is there a configuration

> > > setting

> > > needed

> > > --

> > > KC

> >

July 14, 2007

Re: Wireless Zero Configuration

"KCav" <KCav@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> How should I identify an unnecessary service running in the background?

Well, third-party WLAN configuration tools are not necessarily services.

In most cases, these utilities show up as icon in the notification area

(system tray) and as entry under Start > Run: MSCONFIG > Startup tab.

If there is no such icon/entry, running third-party tools are not the

cause. In this case, open the WLAN connection properties and make sure

that the option "Let Windows handle this coonection" has been checked.

The wording may be be somewhat different since that option is no longer

available when having all available and optional WLAN system updates

installed. Good luck.

--

d-d

July 14, 2007

RE: Wireless Zero Configuration

Thank you for your timely reply.

You asked, if I meant the MMC Services. Yes, and I would appreciate advice

on how to install, access, and use MMC. The reason I went to the command line

is I thought maybe some service is running in the background not shown in

MMC.

You asked if WZCSVC service was in the Registry under Local Machine

\System\CurrentControlSet\Services … yes I found it there.

I have printed the instruction for SC and I am trying to use it.

I am wondering why the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol and Wireless Zero

Configuration do not appear in my list of services. How should I use sc

utility?

--

KC

"JCB" wrote:

> I assume when you said you looked through Services, you meant the MMC

> Services.msc - correct? Have you looked in the registry under

> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services for the WZCSVC service? It should be

> there. Try using the Service Control command-line utility to configure the

> service beyond the capability available in Services.msc GUI. The command is

> SC. Try SC /? for a full description of this utilities capabilities.

>

> While I always prefer to use the WZCSVC to configue my 802.11 apadters, the

> suggestion Peter offered is a viable one if all you really care about is the

> end result - getting connected.

>

> Let us know what you learn.

> --

> JCB\1059

>

> "KCav" wrote:

>

> > Trying to connect a notebook computer to a LAN. I looked through Services

> > and did not find Wireless Zero Configuration. Since this service is for

> > automatic configuration of 802.11 adapters it seems it should be running. I

> > ran Add/Remove software routine to load it onto the notebook and it is still

> > missing from the list of available services. Is there a configuration setting

> > needed

> > --

> > KC

July 15, 2007

RE: Wireless Zero Configuration

Many existing Microsoft Management Consoles (MMCs) are built into your start

menu (if you configured it to show them, like Administrative Tools.)

In any case, if you want to work on a stand-alone or "extension" console,

simply go to Start->Run. In the run box, type MMC. This will bring up a

window to which you can add consoles (such as services.msc), but this is but

one approach. Alternatively, search for *.msc to see all of those available

to you. Type the name of the console you want to use at the command prompt,

like >services.msc, and the familiar GUI will appear.

BE CAREFUL using the SC command-line tool. It is very powerful and if you

misconfigure a service you could create new headaches. Best practice would

be to force a restore point before you make any changes, so that if you do

more harm than good, you have an easy means to roll-back the changes.

Further, you may want to pipe the output of your commands to a text file so

that you can see what you started with and your resultant changes (e.g., >net

start >>runningservices.txt will create a text file OR append to the file if

it already exists, the output of 'net start') The piped output will be in

the directory from which you run the command.

As you have observed, not all services appear in the services.msc GUI. You

can use SC to configure other services as well, however. NOTE: MOST MMCs can

be used to administer remote machines as well as the local one from which you

run the command; the default is the local machine - from the Action menu,

select "connect to another computer..." should you need to perform remote

admin.

BUT...keeping in mind the issue with your original post, were you able to

uninstall the 3rd-party adapter configuration software, and if so, were you

then able to see the WZCSVC service in the Services.msc GUI?

--

JCB\1059

"KCav" wrote:

> Thank you for your timely reply.

>

> You asked, if I meant the MMC Services. Yes, and I would appreciate advice

> on how to install, access, and use MMC. The reason I went to the command line

> is I thought maybe some service is running in the background not shown in

> MMC.

>

> You asked if WZCSVC service was in the Registry under Local Machine

> \System\CurrentControlSet\Services … yes I found it there.

>

> I have printed the instruction for SC and I am trying to use it.

> I am wondering why the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol and Wireless Zero

> Configuration do not appear in my list of services. How should I use sc

> utility?

>

> --

> KC

>

> "JCB" wrote:

>

> > I assume when you said you looked through Services, you meant the MMC

> > Services.msc - correct? Have you looked in the registry under

> > HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services for the WZCSVC service? It should be

> > there. Try using the Service Control command-line utility to configure the

> > service beyond the capability available in Services.msc GUI. The command is

> > SC. Try SC /? for a full description of this utilities capabilities.

> >

> > While I always prefer to use the WZCSVC to configue my 802.11 apadters, the

> > suggestion Peter offered is a viable one if all you really care about is the

> > end result - getting connected.

> >

> > Let us know what you learn.

> > --

> > JCB\1059

> >

> > "KCav" wrote:

> >

> > > Trying to connect a notebook computer to a LAN. I looked through Services

> > > and did not find Wireless Zero Configuration. Since this service is for

> > > automatic configuration of 802.11 adapters it seems it should be running. I

> > > ran Add/Remove software routine to load it onto the notebook and it is still

> > > missing from the list of available services. Is there a configuration setting

> > > needed

> > > --

> > > KC

July 15, 2007

RE: Wireless Zero Configuration

Hi JCB,

Thank you for instructions on how to find and create a MMC console.

I performed search for *.msc and found them in c:\windows\system32;

performed Run MMC and when the new console appeared I added 8 MMCs; saved to

C:\Windows \sytem32.

I support a small workgroup from my notebook. I need to work on security and

synchronization for roaming users.

--

KC

"JCB" wrote:

> Many existing Microsoft Management Consoles (MMCs) are built into your start

> menu (if you configured it to show them, like Administrative Tools.)

>

> In any case, if you want to work on a stand-alone or "extension" console,

> simply go to Start->Run. In the run box, type MMC. This will bring up a

> window to which you can add consoles (such as services.msc), but this is but

> one approach. Alternatively, search for *.msc to see all of those available

> to you. Type the name of the console you want to use at the command prompt,

> like >services.msc, and the familiar GUI will appear.

>

> BE CAREFUL using the SC command-line tool. It is very powerful and if you

> misconfigure a service you could create new headaches. Best practice would

> be to force a restore point before you make any changes, so that if you do

> more harm than good, you have an easy means to roll-back the changes.

> Further, you may want to pipe the output of your commands to a text file so

> that you can see what you started with and your resultant changes (e.g., >net

> start >>runningservices.txt will create a text file OR append to the file if

> it already exists, the output of 'net start') The piped output will be in

> the directory from which you run the command.

>

> As you have observed, not all services appear in the services.msc GUI. You

> can use SC to configure other services as well, however. NOTE: MOST MMCs can

> be used to administer remote machines as well as the local one from which you

> run the command; the default is the local machine - from the Action menu,

> select "connect to another computer..." should you need to perform remote

> admin.

>

> BUT...keeping in mind the issue with your original post, were you able to

> uninstall the 3rd-party adapter configuration software, and if so, were you

> then able to see the WZCSVC service in the Services.msc GUI?

>

> --

> JCB\1059

>

> "KCav" wrote:

>

> > Thank you for your timely reply.

> >

> > You asked, if I meant the MMC Services. Yes, and I would appreciate advice

> > on how to install, access, and use MMC. The reason I went to the command line

> > is I thought maybe some service is running in the background not shown in

> > MMC.

> >

> > You asked if WZCSVC service was in the Registry under Local Machine

> > \System\CurrentControlSet\Services … yes I found it there.

> >

> > I have printed the instruction for SC and I am trying to use it.

> > I am wondering why the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol and Wireless Zero

> > Configuration do not appear in my list of services. How should I use sc

> > utility?

> >

> > --

> > KC

> >

> > "JCB" wrote:

> >

> > > I assume when you said you looked through Services, you meant the MMC

> > > Services.msc - correct? Have you looked in the registry under

> > > HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services for the WZCSVC service? It should be

> > > there. Try using the Service Control command-line utility to configure the

> > > service beyond the capability available in Services.msc GUI. The command is

> > > SC. Try SC /? for a full description of this utilities capabilities.

> > >

> > > While I always prefer to use the WZCSVC to configue my 802.11 apadters, the

> > > suggestion Peter offered is a viable one if all you really care about is the

> > > end result - getting connected.

> > >

> > > Let us know what you learn.

> > > --

> > > JCB\1059

> > >

> > > "KCav" wrote:

> > >

> > > > Trying to connect a notebook computer to a LAN. I looked through Services

> > > > and did not find Wireless Zero Configuration. Since this service is for

> > > > automatic configuration of 802.11 adapters it seems it should be running. I

> > > > ran Add/Remove software routine to load it onto the notebook and it is still

> > > > missing from the list of available services. Is there a configuration setting

> > > > needed

> > > > --

> > > > KC

July 15, 2007

RE: Wireless Zero Configuration

Hi JCB,

Thank you for advice "BE CAREFUL using the SC command-line tool".

I created a role back point. Then put a short-cut in Administrative Tools

to System Restore.

I also piped from Cmd prompt to text file and imported the file into WordPad.