Guest sully1999@gmail.com Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Linux should support it. Making it actually work is an entirely different kettle of fish. There is a reason why Newegg and other manufacturers don't bother certifying Linux to work with their hardware and that is the market for Linux is so small it isn't worth wasting the glue for the sticker on. Linux: When your time has no value. On Sep 22, 3:40 pm, "Judge Dredd" <go_a...@nospam.com> wrote: > I'm thinking of buying this widescreen from NewEgg > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009101 > > The monitor is advertised as being "Windows Vista Certified" so it will > obviously work with Vista. But I'm concerned if it will work with linux > because it doesn't say anything about being "Linux Certified." > > Will linux be able to automatically use the 1920x1200 resolution or will > have need to tweak some config files to get the full resolution. I worry > about editing config files becase I don't type too good and if I make a > mistake I worry that I will have no video at all. > > Thanks, > > - Scott - > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
Guest Stephan Rose Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 06:32:00 -0700, sully1999 wrote: > Linux should support it. > > Making it actually work is an entirely different kettle of fish. Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power cord. > > There is a reason why Newegg and other manufacturers don't bother > certifying Linux to work > with their hardware and that is the market for Linux is so small it > isn't worth wasting the glue for the sticker on. > > Linux: When your time has no value. Vista: When you should be getting reimbursed for your time using it. -- Stephan 2003 Yamaha R6 君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは 君のこと忘れたときがないから
Guest Tattoo Vampire Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor sully1999@gmail.com wrote: > Linux: When your time has no value. sully1999@gmail.com: When you want to hear someone speak while simultaneously licking their own privates.
Guest Tim Smith Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>, Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote: > Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the video > card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an extremely > difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power cord. Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge for many. -- --Tim Smith
Guest Charlie Tame Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Tim Smith wrote: > In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>, > Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote: >> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the video >> card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an extremely >> difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power cord. > > Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge for > many. > > Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things get easier all the time.
Guest Stephan Rose Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:30:47 -0500, Charlie Tame wrote: > Tim Smith wrote: >> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>, >> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote: >>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the >>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an >>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power >>> cord. >> >> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge for >> many. >> >> >> > > Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things get > easier all the time. Matter of fact it's so easy that with the upcoming October Release, it has hot plug monitor and driver support. So you can change monitors all you want, drivers all you want, all on the fly without ever rebooting or even seeing a command line. Now try to change a driver under Vista without rebooting. -- Stephan 2003 Yamaha R6 君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは 君のこと忘れたときがないから
Guest Charlie Tame Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Stephan Rose wrote: > On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:30:47 -0500, Charlie Tame wrote: > >> Tim Smith wrote: >>> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>, >>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote: >>>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the >>>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an >>>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power >>>> cord. >>> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge for >>> many. >>> >>> >>> >> Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things get >> easier all the time. > > Matter of fact it's so easy that with the upcoming October Release, it > has hot plug monitor and driver support. So you can change monitors all > you want, drivers all you want, all on the fly without ever rebooting or > even seeing a command line. > > Now try to change a driver under Vista without rebooting. > Well I have to admit that a year or two back Linux was sadly lacking in friendliness, but it seems that the community has switched resources toward competing with "Windows" on this topic and preserving the existing security while MS has been forced to try and backwards engineer security into the "Easy" system. Actually UAC seems to me to be trying to "Emulate" the more GUI oriented Linux but for appearances only. I mean obviously a user with the PW can screw up Linux security if they want to, same applies to Vista, but WRT UAC I think there's more incentive to set about screwing it up. I take some of Dennis' points that Linux is not as secure as (Say) some military system, but hey, I'd expect military systems to be operated by trained people for specific purposes, not editing MP3s one minute and launching missiles the next, could give a whole new meaning to "All Shook Up" or "Bomb the Bass"... That said it is not Linux but the Unix philosophy or model on which it is based that is inherently better, and there is no blame attached to Microsoft for this per-se, much has changed since W95, however I do think maybe they would have done better to design a more isolated core than to continue this never ending "Integration" between Apps like IE and the OS itself. As for compatibility, well, I seen no real need for our server at work to look and feel like XP, but it does, as do all the rest of them. Having system updates brought in by a "Browser" for example seems counter intuitive when you think about it.
Guest dennis@home Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message news:u5Zj%23gh$HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Tim Smith wrote: >> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>, >> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote: >>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the >>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an >>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power >>> cord. >> >> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge for >> many. >> >> > > > Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things get > easier all the time. Yes Ubuntu sets 1280x768 on my widescreen monitor automatically. Shame its a 1280 x 720 lcd panel. Just as well I can change it but I wonder how many newbies would fail? XP and Vista get it right BTW.
Guest Charlie Tame Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor dennis@home wrote: > > "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message > news:u5Zj%23gh$HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Tim Smith wrote: >>> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>, >>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote: >>>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the >>>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an >>>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power >>>> cord. >>> >>> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge >>> for many. >>> >>> >> >> >> Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things >> get easier all the time. > > Yes Ubuntu sets 1280x768 on my widescreen monitor automatically. > Shame its a 1280 x 720 lcd panel. > Just as well I can change it but I wonder how many newbies would fail? > XP and Vista get it right BTW. Well maybe you should follow your own advice as offered to many here on occasions and blame the manufacturer for using a non standard resolution, or blame the user for not doing research into Ubuntu requirements before installing. These kinds of comments work both ways :)
Guest dennis@home Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message news:ejYHyYi$HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > dennis@home wrote: >> >> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message >> news:u5Zj%23gh$HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Tim Smith wrote: >>>> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>, >>>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote: >>>>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the >>>>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an >>>>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power >>>>> cord. >>>> >>>> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge for >>>> many. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things get >>> easier all the time. >> >> Yes Ubuntu sets 1280x768 on my widescreen monitor automatically. >> Shame its a 1280 x 720 lcd panel. >> Just as well I can change it but I wonder how many newbies would fail? >> XP and Vista get it right BTW. > > > Well maybe you should follow your own advice as offered to many here on > occasions and blame the manufacturer for using a non standard resolution, > or blame the user for not doing research into Ubuntu requirements before > installing. Don't be stupid 1280x720 is a standard format. It is one of the two HDTV formats. A user shouldn't really need to research to see if an OS supports a standard display mode. There are plenty of OSes that do support it out of the box including some Linux distros. > These kinds of comments work both ways :) Only if someone has a distorted view of the world.
Guest Stephan Rose Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:07:49 -0500, Charlie Tame wrote: > Stephan Rose wrote: >> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:30:47 -0500, Charlie Tame wrote: >> >>> Tim Smith wrote: >>>> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>, >>>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote: >>>>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the >>>>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an >>>>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power >>>>> cord. >>>> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge >>>> for many. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things >>> get easier all the time. >> >> Matter of fact it's so easy that with the upcoming October Release, it >> has hot plug monitor and driver support. So you can change monitors all >> you want, drivers all you want, all on the fly without ever rebooting >> or even seeing a command line. >> >> Now try to change a driver under Vista without rebooting. >> >> > Well I have to admit that a year or two back Linux was sadly lacking in > friendliness, but it seems that the community has switched resources > toward competing with "Windows" on this topic and preserving the > existing security while MS has been forced to try and backwards engineer > security into the "Easy" system. Actually UAC seems to me to be trying > to "Emulate" the more GUI oriented Linux but for appearances only. > > I mean obviously a user with the PW can screw up Linux security if they > want to, same applies to Vista, but WRT UAC I think there's more > incentive to set about screwing it up. > > I take some of Dennis' points that Linux is not as secure as (Say) some > military system, but hey, I'd expect military systems to be operated by > trained people for specific purposes, not editing MP3s one minute and > launching missiles the next, could give a whole new meaning to "All > Shook Up" or "Bomb the Bass"... Well nor does it need to be as secure as some military system. It's installed on frigging home computers for crying out loud...I think the whole security hype's going overboard. Any system that is modifiable by the user is inherently only as secure as the user using it. No amount of UAC popups or passwords can compete against a user that willingly installs malware. -- Stephan 2003 Yamaha R6 君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは 君のこと忘れたときがないから
Guest dennis@home Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message news:EMidnXilcNHyf2vbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com... > Any system that is modifiable by the user is inherently only as secure as > the user using it. No amount of UAC popups or passwords can compete > against a user that willingly installs malware. > Do you think you can explain that to alias? He thinks linux is secure.
Guest Charlie Tame Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor dennis@home wrote: > > "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message > news:ejYHyYi$HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> dennis@home wrote: >>> >>> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message >>> news:u5Zj%23gh$HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Tim Smith wrote: >>>>> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>, >>>>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote: >>>>>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of >>>>>> the video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor >>>>>> is an extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in >>>>>> the power cord. >>>>> >>>>> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge >>>>> for many. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things >>>> get easier all the time. >>> >>> Yes Ubuntu sets 1280x768 on my widescreen monitor automatically. >>> Shame its a 1280 x 720 lcd panel. >>> Just as well I can change it but I wonder how many newbies would fail? >>> XP and Vista get it right BTW. >> >> >> Well maybe you should follow your own advice as offered to many here >> on occasions and blame the manufacturer for using a non standard >> resolution, or blame the user for not doing research into Ubuntu >> requirements before installing. > > > Don't be stupid 1280x720 is a standard format. It is one of the two HDTV > formats. Where did I say it wasn't, read what I said again... you do read some of the fanboy's allegations about users I take it? No, maybe not. > A user shouldn't really need to research to see if an OS supports a > standard display mode. Then why are users constantly told here that many of their problems are due to their lack of research? > There are plenty of OSes that do support it out of the box including > some Linux distros. Please quote the part of my original post that suggests that Ubuntu is perfect. I said it is easier than most and getting easier, you have obviously decided to try and twist that around to build your straw man... >> These kinds of comments work both ways :) > > Only if someone has a distorted view of the world. Given your ability to distort a couple of sentences and reverse the meaning of what was in them I should think that's more your problem than mine...
Guest Alias Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor dennis@home wrote: > > "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message > news:EMidnXilcNHyf2vbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com... > >> Any system that is modifiable by the user is inherently only as secure as >> the user using it. No amount of UAC popups or passwords can compete >> against a user that willingly installs malware. >> > > Do you think you can explain that to alias? > He thinks linux is secure. No, I just think it's much MORE secure than Windows is all. Nothing is infallible. With the slippery slope that Vista is taking Redmond, as a computer user for business and pleasure, I guess I am a bit excited about not having to put up with sliding down slopes. -- Alias To email me, remove shoes
Guest Hadron Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Charlie Tame <charlie@tames.net> writes: > Tim Smith wrote: >> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>, >> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote: >>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the >>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an >>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power >>> cord. >> >> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge >> for many. >> >> > > > Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things > get easier all the time. But a quick visit to Google reveals all sorts of issues. Look up getting Beryl to work on Debian for example. For some "it just works". Fortunately the "advocates" here are not in charge of prioritising bug fixes. If so, we would all be tweaking the MBR and xorg.conf from now until eternity. -- "BTW, does Jesus know you flame?" -- Diane Holt, dianeh@binky.UUCP, to Ed Carp
Guest The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Charlie Tame wrote: > Stephan Rose wrote: >> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:30:47 -0500, Charlie Tame wrote: >> >>> Tim Smith wrote: >>>> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>, >>>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote: >>>>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the >>>>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an >>>>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power >>>>> cord. >>>> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge for >>>> many. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things get >>> easier all the time. >> >> Matter of fact it's so easy that with the upcoming October Release, it >> has hot plug monitor and driver support. So you can change monitors >> all you want, drivers all you want, all on the fly without ever >> rebooting or even seeing a command line. >> >> Now try to change a driver under Vista without rebooting. >> > > Well I have to admit that a year or two back Linux was sadly lacking in > friendliness, but it seems that the community has switched resources > toward competing with "Windows" on this topic and preserving the > existing security while MS has been forced to try and backwards engineer > security into the "Easy" system. Actually UAC seems to me to be trying > to "Emulate" the more GUI oriented Linux but for appearances only. > > I mean obviously a user with the PW can screw up Linux security if they > want to, same applies to Vista, but WRT UAC I think there's more > incentive to set about screwing it up. > > I take some of Dennis' points that Linux is not as secure as (Say) some > military system, but hey, I'd expect military systems to be operated by > trained people for specific purposes, not editing MP3s one minute and > launching missiles the next, could give a whole new meaning to "All > Shook Up" or "Bomb the Bass"... > > That said it is not Linux but the Unix philosophy or model on which it > is based that is inherently better, and there is no blame attached to > Microsoft for this per-se, much has changed since W95, however I do > think maybe they would have done better to design a more isolated core > than to continue this never ending "Integration" between Apps like IE > and the OS itself. > > As for compatibility, well, I seen no real need for our server at work > to look and feel like XP, but it does, as do all the rest of them. > Having system updates brought in by a "Browser" for example seems > counter intuitive when you think about it. Definitely. I really like the whole package manager concept much better for updates. I use an IBM thinkpad tablet at work, and I was thrilled when I saw how easy it is to check for updates for drivers, IBM software, etc. because they designed a package manager for Windows that finds all the updates for you and you can just pick and choose what you would like to update. I found it quite ironic when I learned that most of the features on the IBM website for PC support were supported on IE only. -- Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group: http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html "Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer rights in the digital age are not frivolous." - Maura Corbett
Guest dennis@home Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message news:fd6r8o$n3h$1@aioe.org... > dennis@home wrote: >> >> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message >> news:EMidnXilcNHyf2vbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com... >> >>> Any system that is modifiable by the user is inherently only as secure >>> as >>> the user using it. No amount of UAC popups or passwords can compete >>> against a user that willingly installs malware. >>> >> >> Do you think you can explain that to alias? >> He thinks linux is secure. > > No, I just think it's much MORE secure than Windows is all. Nothing is > infallible. With the slippery slope that Vista is taking Redmond, as a > computer user for business and pleasure, I guess I am a bit excited about > not having to put up with sliding down slopes. > That is not what you keep telling people here.
Guest dennis@home Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message news:Oq9i2Vj$HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> A user shouldn't really need to research to see if an OS supports a >> standard display mode. > > > > Then why are users constantly told here that many of their problems are > due to their lack of research? There is a big difference between expecting an OS to support a standard operating mode and expecting it to support every bit of odd hardware. This is the PC world which is an open platform, mainly due to M$ selling windows/dos to anyone that wanted to build a clone PC. If they hadn't we would have had expensive IBM PCs and expensive Macs both running on fixed hardware and none of this compatibility afford a computer. Its worth remembering that incompatible hardware is the price we pay for having so much choice and it could have been so different if M$ had sold exclusive rights to windows/dos to IBM, no affordable clones, no internet as we know it, no linux..
Guest Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote: >running on fixed hardware and none of this compatibility afford a computer. >Its worth remembering that incompatible hardware is the price we pay for >having so much choice and it could have been so different if M$ had sold >exclusive rights to windows/dos to IBM, no affordable clones, no internet as >we know it, no linux.. And then AmigA would of ruled the world as it was ment to. -- Get the whole thing. http://www.transbuddha.com/mediaHolder.php?id=1142
Guest dennis@home Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message news:OBEveHn$HHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > There is a big difference between expecting an OS to support a standard > operating mode and expecting it to support every bit of odd hardware. > This is the PC world which is an open platform, mainly due to M$ selling > windows/dos to anyone that wanted to build a clone PC. > If they hadn't we would have had expensive IBM PCs and expensive Macs both > running on fixed hardware and none of this compatibility afford a > computer. Its worth remembering that incompatible hardware is the price we > pay for having so much choice and it could have been so different if M$ > had sold exclusive rights to windows/dos to IBM, no affordable clones, no > internet as we know it, no linux.. > > s/afford\ a/affordable/g
Guest Alias Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor dennis@home wrote: > > "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message > news:fd6r8o$n3h$1@aioe.org... >> dennis@home wrote: >>> >>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message >>> news:EMidnXilcNHyf2vbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com... >>> >>>> Any system that is modifiable by the user is inherently only as >>>> secure as >>>> the user using it. No amount of UAC popups or passwords can compete >>>> against a user that willingly installs malware. >>>> >>> >>> Do you think you can explain that to alias? >>> He thinks linux is secure. >> >> No, I just think it's much MORE secure than Windows is all. Nothing is >> infallible. With the slippery slope that Vista is taking Redmond, as a >> computer user for business and pleasure, I guess I am a bit excited >> about not having to put up with sliding down slopes. >> > > That is not what you keep telling people here. If you reread my posts, you will see that I say that Ubuntu is not a *prone* to viruses and malware as Windows is. -- Alias To email me, remove shoes
Guest HeyBub Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Alias wrote: > > If you reread my posts, you will see that I say that Ubuntu is not a > *prone* to viruses and malware as Windows is. I think you mean Linux is more "supine."
Guest Stephan Rose Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:11:52 +0100, dennis@home wrote: > "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message > news:Oq9i2Vj$HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > >>> A user shouldn't really need to research to see if an OS supports a >>> standard display mode. >> >> >> >> Then why are users constantly told here that many of their problems are >> due to their lack of research? > > There is a big difference between expecting an OS to support a standard > operating mode and expecting it to support every bit of odd hardware. Well on that note, Vista does not out of the box support my nVidia 8800 GTX which definitely is not in the "odd hardware" category. The best choice of a screen resolution that Vista gave me was 1024x768 on a 1600x1200 monitor. Ubuntu supports it out of the box and instantly gives me the correct resolution. Vista, I needed to hunt down a beta driver to make it work. Having to use Beta drivers on a production machine 6 months after an OS' release is pathetic. Now one could blame nVidia for this, but then again, nVidia had full support for Linux for their 8800 GTX cards from day one and Ubuntu 7.10 will recognize it out of the box. If I didn't need full 3D Acceleration I could even just run the open source driver and not even bother clicking the "enable" button next to the nVidia proprietary driver. Would save a mouse click or two during the install process. So if Linux is fully supported, XP is fully supported, but 6 months down the line Vista drivers are still in a Beta stage...to me, that points to more of a problem with Vista than anything else. -- Stephan 2003 Yamaha R6 君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは 君のこと忘れたときがないから
Guest Stephan Rose Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:20:33 +0200, Hadron wrote: > Charlie Tame <charlie@tames.net> writes: > >> Tim Smith wrote: >>> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>, >>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote: >>>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the >>>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an >>>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power >>>> cord. >>> >>> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge >>> for many. >>> >>> >>> >> >> Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things get >> easier all the time. > > > But a quick visit to Google reveals all sorts of issues. Look up getting > Beryl to work on Debian for example. One can always find a problem with anything if one looks for it. A quick visit to google can also reveal all sorts of issues that people can have doing a simple task such as breathing! Breathing must suck apparently... -- Stephan 2003 Yamaha R6 君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは 君のこと忘れたときがないから
Guest Hadron Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Re: Does linux support my new widescreen monitor Stephan Rose <nospam.noway@screwspammers.com> writes: > On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:20:33 +0200, Hadron wrote: > >> Charlie Tame <charlie@tames.net> writes: >> >>> Tim Smith wrote: >>>> In article <od6dnb_MGJVC5WvbRVnyvQA@giganews.com>, >>>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote: >>>>> Very true. Plugging the cable into the connector on the back of the >>>>> video card and then pushing the power button on that monitor is an >>>>> extremely difficult task. Oh and, don't forget to plug in the power >>>>> cord. >>>> >>>> Getting the video modes right can sometimes be a bit of a challenge >>>> for many. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Yes it can but Ubuntu is easier than most and these kinds of things get >>> easier all the time. >> >> >> But a quick visit to Google reveals all sorts of issues. Look up getting >> Beryl to work on Debian for example. > > One can always find a problem with anything if one looks for it. A quick > visit to google can also reveal all sorts of issues that people can have > doing a simple task such as breathing! Breathing must suck > apparently... No two ways. And I agree. But getting high performance Video cards working is a damn sight easier on XP because the installers are better. Debian/Ubuntu are a pain in the hole - you need to recompile the latest NVidia drivers using a set version of the compiler, for example, when changing kernels. http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=101723&sid=ee1ce9d8a0d2bdc079993f49ee87136b -- Siempre surgen emergencias cuando un gobierno desea fabricarlas..., y en una emergencia, suelen romperse las reglas. --- Isaac Asimov
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