Guest Madx Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Analyze says I should defrag so I do and it gets to 13% compacting and then says defrag complete. I check analyze and it still says i should defrag. I've done this numerous times with no better results. How can i fix disk defragmenter? TIA
Guest Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken "Madx" <l_heis@yahhoo.com> wrote in message news:%23i9712r$HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Analyze says I should defrag so I do and it gets to 13% compacting and > then says defrag complete. I check analyze and it still says i should > defrag. I've done this numerous times with no better results. > > How can i fix disk defragmenter? > > TIA > What percent free space do you have on your hard drive? -- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM I won't answer email.
Guest Unknown Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken Try running disk cleanup first. "Madx" <l_heis@yahhoo.com> wrote in message news:%23i9712r$HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Analyze says I should defrag so I do and it gets to 13% compacting and > then says defrag complete. I check analyze and it still says i should > defrag. I've done this numerous times with no better results. > > How can i fix disk defragmenter? > > TIA >
Guest Madx Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message news:8FCC25A4-FE42-4993-B77C-0DE0FB0AE556@microsoft.com... > "Madx" <l_heis@yahhoo.com> wrote in message > news:%23i9712r$HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Analyze says I should defrag so I do and it gets to 13% compacting and >> then says defrag complete. I check analyze and it still says i should >> defrag. I've done this numerous times with no better results. >> >> How can i fix disk defragmenter? >> >> TIA >> > > What percent free space do you have on your hard drive? > > -- > Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM > I won't answer email. 6 gb used 8gb free and I have used disk cleanup first
Guest Gerry Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken Is your hard disk formatted as FAT32 or NTFS. Select Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk Management to find out. If NTFS select, Start, Run, type "cmd" without quotes and hit Enter, type "Chkdsk /f /r" without quotes and hit Enter. Answer Y to the question which appears and exit.. You must restart the system before the disk scan begins. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Madx wrote: > "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in > message news:8FCC25A4-FE42-4993-B77C-0DE0FB0AE556@microsoft.com... >> "Madx" <l_heis@yahhoo.com> wrote in message >> news:%23i9712r$HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Analyze says I should defrag so I do and it gets to 13% compacting >>> and then says defrag complete. I check analyze and it still says i >>> should defrag. I've done this numerous times with no better results. >>> >>> How can i fix disk defragmenter? >>> >>> TIA >>> >> >> What percent free space do you have on your hard drive? >> >> -- >> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM >> I won't answer email. > > 6 gb used > 8gb free > > and I have used disk cleanup first
Guest Madx Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message news:OaSB8tv$HHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Is your hard disk formatted as FAT32 or NTFS. Select Start, Control > Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk Management to > find out. > > If NTFS select, Start, Run, type "cmd" without quotes and hit Enter, > type "Chkdsk /f /r" without quotes and hit Enter. Answer Y to the > question which appears and exit.. You must restart the system before the > disk scan begins. > I have run scan disk on restart already. It's disk defragmenter that doesn't work. See first post.
Guest Gerry Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken Scandisk is a utility for checking drives formatted as FAT32 and was provided by Microsoft for use with Windows 98 / Windows ME. It is not provided for use with Windows XP. I am well aware that it's Disk Defragmenter that doesn't work properly. One reason it sometimes doesn't work properly is that there can be problems with the disk. Running chkdsk will reveal whether there are problems. Another problem could be that Disk Defragmenter is being interupted. You might try running Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Madx wrote: > "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:OaSB8tv$HHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Is your hard disk formatted as FAT32 or NTFS. Select Start, Control >> Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk Management to >> find out. >> >> If NTFS select, Start, Run, type "cmd" without quotes and hit Enter, >> type "Chkdsk /f /r" without quotes and hit Enter. Answer Y to the >> question which appears and exit.. You must restart the system before >> the disk scan begins. >> > > > I have run scan disk on restart already. It's disk defragmenter that > doesn't work. See first post.
Guest Unknown Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken Try using msconfig. Delete all items in startup. Reboot and run defrag. This will have the effect of not loading any program which can interrupt defrag. While defrag is running or before starting you may want to use task manager to see what may be happening. "Madx" <l_heis@yahhoo.com> wrote in message news:ef36mAw$HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:OaSB8tv$HHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Is your hard disk formatted as FAT32 or NTFS. Select Start, Control >> Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk Management to >> find out. >> >> If NTFS select, Start, Run, type "cmd" without quotes and hit Enter, >> type "Chkdsk /f /r" without quotes and hit Enter. Answer Y to the >> question which appears and exit.. You must restart the system before the >> disk scan begins. >> > > > I have run scan disk on restart already. It's disk defragmenter that > doesn't work. See first post. >
Guest Gerry Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken Not good advice. Rather like chopping off your hand to remove a splinter in your finger. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unknown wrote: > Try using msconfig. Delete all items in startup. Reboot and run > defrag. This will have the effect of not loading any program which > can interrupt defrag. While defrag is running or before starting you > may want to use task manager to see what may be happening. > "Madx" <l_heis@yahhoo.com> wrote in message > news:ef36mAw$HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:OaSB8tv$HHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Is your hard disk formatted as FAT32 or NTFS. Select Start, Control >>> Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk Management to >>> find out. >>> >>> If NTFS select, Start, Run, type "cmd" without quotes and hit Enter, >>> type "Chkdsk /f /r" without quotes and hit Enter. Answer Y to the >>> question which appears and exit.. You must restart the system >>> before the disk scan begins. >>> >> >> >> I have run scan disk on restart already. It's disk defragmenter that >> doesn't work. See first post.
Guest Unknown Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken This is a diagnostic technique. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. Would you care to post your concerns? "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message news:%23jPsQr4$HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Not good advice. Rather like chopping off your hand to remove a splinter > in your finger. > > -- > > > > Hope this helps. > > Gerry > ~~~~ > FCA > Stourport, England > Enquire, plan and execute > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Unknown wrote: >> Try using msconfig. Delete all items in startup. Reboot and run >> defrag. This will have the effect of not loading any program which >> can interrupt defrag. While defrag is running or before starting you >> may want to use task manager to see what may be happening. >> "Madx" <l_heis@yahhoo.com> wrote in message >> news:ef36mAw$HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> >>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message >>> news:OaSB8tv$HHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> Is your hard disk formatted as FAT32 or NTFS. Select Start, Control >>>> Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk Management to >>>> find out. >>>> >>>> If NTFS select, Start, Run, type "cmd" without quotes and hit Enter, >>>> type "Chkdsk /f /r" without quotes and hit Enter. Answer Y to the >>>> question which appears and exit.. You must restart the system >>>> before the disk scan begins. >>>> >>> >>> >>> I have run scan disk on restart already. It's disk defragmenter that >>> doesn't work. See first post. > >
Guest Gerry Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken Hardly diagnostic when you say "Delete all items in startup." Far simpler to run Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode to achieve the same objective and not be so destructive. In any event there are far better ways to disable items in Start if you need to. ~~~~ Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unknown wrote: > This is a diagnostic technique. There is absolutely nothing wrong > with it. Would you care to post your concerns? > "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:%23jPsQr4$HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Not good advice. Rather like chopping off your hand to remove a >> splinter in your finger. >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Gerry >> ~~~~ >> FCA >> Stourport, England >> Enquire, plan and execute >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> Unknown wrote: >>> Try using msconfig. Delete all items in startup. Reboot and run >>> defrag. This will have the effect of not loading any program which >>> can interrupt defrag. While defrag is running or before starting you >>> may want to use task manager to see what may be happening. >>> "Madx" <l_heis@yahhoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:ef36mAw$HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message >>>> news:OaSB8tv$HHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> Is your hard disk formatted as FAT32 or NTFS. Select Start, >>>>> Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk >>>>> Management to find out. >>>>> >>>>> If NTFS select, Start, Run, type "cmd" without quotes and hit >>>>> Enter, type "Chkdsk /f /r" without quotes and hit Enter. Answer >>>>> Y to the question which appears and exit.. You must restart the >>>>> system before the disk scan begins. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have run scan disk on restart already. It's disk defragmenter >>>> that doesn't work. See first post.
Guest Unknown Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken Good grief how is it in any way destructive by simply blocking the loading of programs? Your diagnostic procedures obviously vary from mine but to say mine are destructive leaves me with the impression you don't know much about XP. "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Oaf3vH6$HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Hardly diagnostic when you say "Delete all items in startup." Far simpler > to run Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode to achieve the same objective and > not be so destructive. In any event there are far better ways to disable > items in Start if you need to. > > > ~~~~ > > > Gerry > ~~~~ > FCA > Stourport, England > Enquire, plan and execute > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > Unknown wrote: >> This is a diagnostic technique. There is absolutely nothing wrong >> with it. Would you care to post your concerns? >> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:%23jPsQr4$HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Not good advice. Rather like chopping off your hand to remove a >>> splinter in your finger. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Gerry >>> ~~~~ >>> FCA >>> Stourport, England >>> Enquire, plan and execute >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> >>> Unknown wrote: >>>> Try using msconfig. Delete all items in startup. Reboot and run >>>> defrag. This will have the effect of not loading any program which >>>> can interrupt defrag. While defrag is running or before starting you >>>> may want to use task manager to see what may be happening. >>>> "Madx" <l_heis@yahhoo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:ef36mAw$HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> >>>>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:OaSB8tv$HHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Is your hard disk formatted as FAT32 or NTFS. Select Start, >>>>>> Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk >>>>>> Management to find out. >>>>>> >>>>>> If NTFS select, Start, Run, type "cmd" without quotes and hit >>>>>> Enter, type "Chkdsk /f /r" without quotes and hit Enter. Answer >>>>>> Y to the question which appears and exit.. You must restart the >>>>>> system before the disk scan begins. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have run scan disk on restart already. It's disk defragmenter >>>>> that doesn't work. See first post. > >
Guest Gerry Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken I know sufficient to know you Disable and not DELETE if you are using msconfig as a diagnostic tool! ~~~~ Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unknown wrote: > Good grief how is it in any way destructive by simply blocking the > loading of programs? Your diagnostic procedures obviously vary from > mine but to say mine are destructive leaves me with the impression > you don't know much about XP. > "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:Oaf3vH6$HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Hardly diagnostic when you say "Delete all items in startup." Far >> simpler to run Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode to achieve the same >> objective and not be so destructive. In any event there are far >> better ways to disable items in Start if you need to. >> >> >> ~~~~ >> >> >> Gerry >> ~~~~ >> FCA >> Stourport, England >> Enquire, plan and execute >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> >> >> Unknown wrote: >>> This is a diagnostic technique. There is absolutely nothing wrong >>> with it. Would you care to post your concerns? >>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23jPsQr4$HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> Not good advice. Rather like chopping off your hand to remove a >>>> splinter in your finger. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Gerry >>>> ~~~~ >>>> FCA >>>> Stourport, England >>>> Enquire, plan and execute >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> >>>> Unknown wrote: >>>>> Try using msconfig. Delete all items in startup. Reboot and run >>>>> defrag. This will have the effect of not loading any program which >>>>> can interrupt defrag. While defrag is running or before starting >>>>> you may want to use task manager to see what may be happening. >>>>> "Madx" <l_heis@yahhoo.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:ef36mAw$HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:OaSB8tv$HHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Is your hard disk formatted as FAT32 or NTFS. Select Start, >>>>>>> Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk >>>>>>> Management to find out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If NTFS select, Start, Run, type "cmd" without quotes and hit >>>>>>> Enter, type "Chkdsk /f /r" without quotes and hit Enter. Answer >>>>>>> Y to the question which appears and exit.. You must restart the >>>>>>> system before the disk scan begins. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have run scan disk on restart already. It's disk defragmenter >>>>>> that doesn't work. See first post.
Guest Unknown Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken Delete the X's. You're reading far to much into the post. "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message news:OmWH6k7$HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I know sufficient to know you Disable and not DELETE if you are using >msconfig as a diagnostic tool! > > > ~~~~ > > > Gerry > ~~~~ > FCA > Stourport, England > Enquire, plan and execute > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Unknown wrote: >> Good grief how is it in any way destructive by simply blocking the >> loading of programs? Your diagnostic procedures obviously vary from >> mine but to say mine are destructive leaves me with the impression >> you don't know much about XP. >> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:Oaf3vH6$HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Hardly diagnostic when you say "Delete all items in startup." Far >>> simpler to run Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode to achieve the same >>> objective and not be so destructive. In any event there are far >>> better ways to disable items in Start if you need to. >>> >>> >>> ~~~~ >>> >>> >>> Gerry >>> ~~~~ >>> FCA >>> Stourport, England >>> Enquire, plan and execute >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Unknown wrote: >>>> This is a diagnostic technique. There is absolutely nothing wrong >>>> with it. Would you care to post your concerns? >>>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message >>>> news:%23jPsQr4$HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> Not good advice. Rather like chopping off your hand to remove a >>>>> splinter in your finger. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> Gerry >>>>> ~~~~ >>>>> FCA >>>>> Stourport, England >>>>> Enquire, plan and execute >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Unknown wrote: >>>>>> Try using msconfig. Delete all items in startup. Reboot and run >>>>>> defrag. This will have the effect of not loading any program which >>>>>> can interrupt defrag. While defrag is running or before starting >>>>>> you may want to use task manager to see what may be happening. >>>>>> "Madx" <l_heis@yahhoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:ef36mAw$HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:OaSB8tv$HHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> Is your hard disk formatted as FAT32 or NTFS. Select Start, >>>>>>>> Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk >>>>>>>> Management to find out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If NTFS select, Start, Run, type "cmd" without quotes and hit >>>>>>>> Enter, type "Chkdsk /f /r" without quotes and hit Enter. Answer >>>>>>>> Y to the question which appears and exit.. You must restart the >>>>>>>> system before the disk scan begins. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have run scan disk on restart already. It's disk defragmenter >>>>>>> that doesn't work. See first post. > >
Guest Madx Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message news:ed74chw$HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Scandisk is a utility for checking drives formatted as FAT32 and was > provided by Microsoft for use with Windows 98 / Windows ME. It is not > provided for use with Windows XP. I am well aware that it's Disk > Defragmenter that doesn't work properly. One reason it sometimes doesn't > work properly is that there can be problems with the disk. Running chkdsk > will reveal whether there are problems. > > Another problem could be that Disk Defragmenter is being interupted. You > might try running Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode. > > -- > > > > Hope this helps. > > Gerry > ~~~~ > FCA > Stourport, England > Enquire, plan and execute > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Madx wrote: >> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:OaSB8tv$HHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Is your hard disk formatted as FAT32 or NTFS. Select Start, Control >>> Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk Management to >>> find out. >>> >>> If NTFS select, Start, Run, type "cmd" without quotes and hit Enter, >>> type "Chkdsk /f /r" without quotes and hit Enter. Answer Y to the >>> question which appears and exit.. You must restart the system before >>> the disk scan begins. >>> >> >> >> I have run scan disk on restart already. It's disk defragmenter that >> doesn't work. See first post. > Your right of course it's not called scan disk but error checking which is what I had done.
Guest Madx Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Oaf3vH6$HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Hardly diagnostic when you say "Delete all items in startup." Far simpler > to run Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode to achieve the same objective and > not be so destructive. In any event there are far better ways to disable > items in Start if you need to. > > I tried safe mode and ran analyze said i should defrag so I did but the results were the same. Defrag complete but analyze still says i should defrag. Here is the report. Volume (C:) Volume size = 14.65 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 6.44 GB Free space = 8.21 GB Percent free space = 56 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 12 % File fragmentation = 24 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 29,929 Average file size = 425 KB Total fragmented files = 9 Total excess fragments = 434 Average fragments per file = 1.01 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 1.50 GB Total fragments = 52 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 2,877 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 45 MB MFT record count = 32,928 Percent MFT in use = 71 % Total MFT fragments = 3
Guest Bob I Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken I wouldn't worry too much about it, what is fragged is the page file. Madx wrote: > "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:Oaf3vH6$HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >>Hardly diagnostic when you say "Delete all items in startup." Far simpler >>to run Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode to achieve the same objective and >>not be so destructive. In any event there are far better ways to disable >>items in Start if you need to. >> >> > > I tried safe mode and ran analyze said i should defrag so I did but the > results were the same. Defrag complete but analyze still says i should > defrag. Here is the report. > > > Volume (C:) > Volume size = 14.65 GB > Cluster size = 4 KB > Used space = 6.44 GB > Free space = 8.21 GB > Percent free space = 56 % > > Volume fragmentation > Total fragmentation = 12 % > File fragmentation = 24 % > Free space fragmentation = 0 % > > File fragmentation > Total files = 29,929 > Average file size = 425 KB > Total fragmented files = 9 > Total excess fragments = 434 > Average fragments per file = 1.01 > > Pagefile fragmentation > Pagefile size = 1.50 GB > Total fragments = 52 > > Folder fragmentation > Total folders = 2,877 > Fragmented folders = 1 > Excess folder fragments = 0 > > Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation > Total MFT size = 45 MB > MFT record count = 32,928 > Percent MFT in use = 71 % > Total MFT fragments = 3 > > > >
Guest Gerry Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken Madx I agree with Bob that your Report does not indicate any real problems. You may be able to get the pagefile more contiguous i.e. reduce the number of fragments. Set the pagefile to Zero and restart the computer. Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore point? Run Disk Defragmenter and then set the pagefile to a minimum and a maximum of 1.5 gb and restart the computer. If it works the result will be a nice green single unmovable contiguous block in the middle of the drive. You can check the result by then do another Analyse with Disk Defragmenter and comparing the result with this: Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 1.50 GB Total fragments = 52 -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Madx wrote: > "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:Oaf3vH6$HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Hardly diagnostic when you say "Delete all items in startup." Far >> simpler to run Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode to achieve the same >> objective and not be so destructive. In any event there are far >> better ways to disable items in Start if you need to. >> >> > I tried safe mode and ran analyze said i should defrag so I did but > the results were the same. Defrag complete but analyze still says i > should defrag. Here is the report. > > > Volume (C:) > Volume size = 14.65 GB > Cluster size = 4 KB > Used space = 6.44 GB > Free space = 8.21 GB > Percent free space = 56 % > > Volume fragmentation > Total fragmentation = 12 % > File fragmentation = 24 % > Free space fragmentation = 0 % > > File fragmentation > Total files = 29,929 > Average file size = 425 KB > Total fragmented files = 9 > Total excess fragments = 434 > Average fragments per file = 1.01 > > Pagefile fragmentation > Pagefile size = 1.50 GB > Total fragments = 52 > > Folder fragmentation > Total folders = 2,877 > Fragmented folders = 1 > Excess folder fragments = 0 > > Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation > Total MFT size = 45 MB > MFT record count = 32,928 > Percent MFT in use = 71 % > Total MFT fragments = 3
Guest Madx Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message news:%23f%23lHQ8$HHA.5312@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Madx > > I agree with Bob that your Report does not indicate any real problems. > > You may be able to get the pagefile more contiguous i.e. reduce the number > of fragments. > > Set the pagefile to Zero and restart the computer. Select Start, All > Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System > Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore point? Run Disk > Defragmenter and then set the pagefile to a minimum and a maximum of 1.5 > gb and restart the computer. If it works the result will be a nice green > single unmovable contiguous block in the middle of the drive. > > You can check the result by then do another Analyse with Disk Defragmenter > and comparing the result with this: > Pagefile fragmentation > Pagefile size = 1.50 GB > Total fragments = 52 > > I set the pagefile to 0 and cleaned up restore, restarted, ran defrag same results only got to 13% compacting and then got the complete message. Also I do not see any green block on the color graph? Here is the new report. Is there anything else I can try? Thank you Volume (C:) Volume size = 14.65 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 3.95 GB Free space = 10.70 GB Percent free space = 73 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 1 % File fragmentation = 2 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 28,152 Average file size = 280 KB Total fragmented files = 1 Total excess fragments = 374 Average fragments per file = 1.01 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 0 bytes Total fragments = 0 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 2,824 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 45 MB MFT record count = 31,068 Percent MFT in use = 67 % Total MFT fragments = 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented None
Guest Gerry Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken You have not completed what I suggessted. Run Disk Defragmenter and then set the pagefile to a minimum and a maximum of 1.5 gb and restart the computer. If it works the result will be a nice green single unmovable contiguous block in the middle of the drive. It is the pagefile that comprises the green block. No pagefile = no green block -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Madx wrote: > "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:%23f%23lHQ8$HHA.5312@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Madx >> >> I agree with Bob that your Report does not indicate any real >> problems. You may be able to get the pagefile more contiguous i.e. >> reduce the >> number of fragments. >> >> Set the pagefile to Zero and restart the computer. Select Start, All >> Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, >> System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore point? >> Run Disk Defragmenter and then set the pagefile to a minimum and a >> maximum of 1.5 gb and restart the computer. If it works the result >> will be a nice green single unmovable contiguous block in the middle >> of the drive. You can check the result by then do another Analyse >> with Disk >> Defragmenter and comparing the result with this: >> Pagefile fragmentation >> Pagefile size = 1.50 GB >> Total fragments = 52 >> >> > > I set the pagefile to 0 and cleaned up restore, restarted, ran defrag > same results only got to 13% compacting and then got the complete > message. Also I do not see any green block on the color graph? > > Here is the new report. Is there anything else I can try? Thank you > > Volume (C:) > Volume size = 14.65 GB > Cluster size = 4 KB > Used space = 3.95 GB > Free space = 10.70 GB > Percent free space = 73 % > > Volume fragmentation > Total fragmentation = 1 % > File fragmentation = 2 % > Free space fragmentation = 0 % > > File fragmentation > Total files = 28,152 > Average file size = 280 KB > Total fragmented files = 1 > Total excess fragments = 374 > Average fragments per file = 1.01 > > Pagefile fragmentation > Pagefile size = 0 bytes > Total fragments = 0 > > Folder fragmentation > Total folders = 2,824 > Fragmented folders = 1 > Excess folder fragments = 0 > > Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation > Total MFT size = 45 MB > MFT record count = 31,068 > Percent MFT in use = 67 % > Total MFT fragments = 3 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented > None
Guest Madx Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message news:uoOUIjFAIHA.5328@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > You have not completed what I suggessted. > > Run Disk Defragmenter and then set the pagefile to a minimum and a maximum > of 1.5 gb and restart the computer. If it works the result will be a nice > green single unmovable contiguous block in the middle of the drive. > > It is the pagefile that comprises the green block. No pagefile = no green > block > > -- I went back and to make sure amd the pagefile is1500mb max 1500 mb (the units were in mb not gb so I guessed at 1500) min I guess i just copied the wrong report. So here is the latest report. I go to analyze and it says I should defrag but the defrag stops after 13% compacting and then I get the complete message. Volume (C:) Volume size = 14.65 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 5.35 GB Free space = 9.30 GB Percent free space = 63 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 14 % File fragmentation = 29 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 28,269 Average file size = 345 KB Total fragmented files = 2 Total excess fragments = 378 Average fragments per file = 1.01 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 1.46 GB Total fragments = 5 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 2,831 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 45 MB MFT record count = 31,194 Percent MFT in use = 68 % Total MFT fragments = 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented None
Guest Gerry Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken Madx What is your anti-virus programme? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Madx wrote: > "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:uoOUIjFAIHA.5328@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> You have not completed what I suggessted. >> >> Run Disk Defragmenter and then set the pagefile to a minimum and a >> maximum of 1.5 gb and restart the computer. If it works the result >> will be a nice green single unmovable contiguous block in the middle >> of the drive. It is the pagefile that comprises the green block. No >> pagefile = no >> green block >> >> -- > > > I went back and to make sure amd the pagefile is1500mb max 1500 mb > (the units were in mb not gb so I guessed at 1500) min I guess i just > copied the wrong report. So here is the latest report. I go to > analyze and it says I should defrag but the defrag stops after 13% > compacting and then I get the complete message. > > Volume (C:) > Volume size = 14.65 GB > Cluster size = 4 KB > Used space = 5.35 GB > Free space = 9.30 GB > Percent free space = 63 % > > Volume fragmentation > Total fragmentation = 14 % > File fragmentation = 29 % > Free space fragmentation = 0 % > > File fragmentation > Total files = 28,269 > Average file size = 345 KB > Total fragmented files = 2 > Total excess fragments = 378 > Average fragments per file = 1.01 > > Pagefile fragmentation > Pagefile size = 1.46 GB > Total fragments = 5 > > Folder fragmentation > Total folders = 2,831 > Fragmented folders = 1 > Excess folder fragments = 0 > > Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation > Total MFT size = 45 MB > MFT record count = 31,194 > Percent MFT in use = 68 % > Total MFT fragments = 3 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented > None
Guest Madx Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message news:ODeRgLNAIHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Madx > > What is your anti-virus programme? > > avg
Guest Gerry Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken Try cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job than Disk CleanUp. http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp http://www.ccleaner.com/ With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also offers backup before removal. When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so that they can easily be re-entered. Leave the Scan for Issues option alone. Then Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore points? Then see if Disk Defragmenter misbehaves. Are you using Hibernation? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Madx wrote: > "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:ODeRgLNAIHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Madx >> >> What is your anti-virus programme? >> >> > avg
Guest Madx Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: my defragmenter is broken "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message news:uQpqJSSAIHA.5960@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Try cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job than Disk > CleanUp. > http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp > http://www.ccleaner.com/ > > With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you > should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also > offers backup before removal. > > When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form > History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has > irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's > recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so > that they can easily be re-entered. > > Leave the Scan for Issues option alone. > > Then Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, > More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System > Restore points? > > Then see if Disk Defragmenter misbehaves. > > Are you using Hibernation? > I don't use hibernation. I have been using ccleaner ran it again removed restore pts as requested, defrag still not working. In the past I have scanned for issues and fixed them did it fix something it shouldn't have? I have also used winaso could that have broken defragmenter? But mostly when I have run that I also ran defragmenter and it always worked before. Well everything else is working fine on my computer so not sure why defrag program isn't.
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