Guest pyles69@gmail.com Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Easy question to answer once you have actually tried Linux. I just finished tossing a Ubuntu CD in the trash because that is where it belongs. Now I truly understand why Linux can't seem to break into the desktop market. Linux sucks. The programs look like something Windows had 15 years ago with Windows 3.1. The help system is non existant. The fonts are terrible. The graphics support is terrible. There is no Direct-X 10 support. The interface is crude and slow. My printer wasn't even recognized (Lexmark). My widescreen monitor came up with an out of range box sqaure in the middle of the screen instead of the 1440x960 it should be. Some application called Amarok kept freezing up on me when it would search my drives for media. What a non-intuitive POS that program Amarok is. I tried burning a DVD with k3b and it made a perfect coaster every time. This is with a high end Plextor drive. Why don't Plextools work with Linux? And the list goes on. I can't spend my life searching Google for answers so back to Vista I go. At least Vista works. Linux? It just sucks, mostly your time. "Linux, if you think you hate it now, wait until you try it"
Guest David B. Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Now we just wait for the linux fanboys to reply and blame you , your hardware, your computer skills, or your parentage, they will blame everything except the OS itself. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm _________________________________________________________________________________ <pyles69@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1190655726.533487.116170@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... > Easy question to answer once you have actually tried Linux. > > I just finished tossing a Ubuntu CD in the trash because that is where > it belongs. > Now I truly understand why Linux can't seem to break into the desktop > market. > Linux sucks. > The programs look like something Windows had 15 years ago with Windows > 3.1. > The help system is non existant. > The fonts are terrible. > The graphics support is terrible. > There is no Direct-X 10 support. > The interface is crude and slow. > My printer wasn't even recognized (Lexmark). > My widescreen monitor came up with an out of range box sqaure in the > middle of the screen instead of the 1440x960 it should be. > Some application called Amarok kept freezing up on me when it would > search my drives for media. What a non-intuitive POS that program > Amarok is. > I tried burning a DVD with k3b and it made a perfect coaster every > time. > This is with a high end Plextor drive. > Why don't Plextools work with Linux? > > And the list goes on. > I can't spend my life searching Google for answers so back to Vista I > go. > At least Vista works. > Linux? > > It just sucks, mostly your time. > > "Linux, if you think you hate it now, wait until you try it" >
Guest Meat Plow Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:42:06 -0700, pyles69 wrote: > Easy question Dumb troll.
Guest Alias Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? pyles69@gmail.com wrote: > Easy question to answer once you have actually tried Linux. > > I just finished tossing a Ubuntu CD in the trash because that is where > it belongs. > Now I truly understand why Linux can't seem to break into the desktop > market. > Linux sucks. > The programs look like something Windows had 15 years ago with Windows > 3.1. Not on my machine. > The help system is non existant. Existent ... existent. > The fonts are terrible. Learn how to download fonts. > The graphics support is terrible. Works great with my nVidia card. > There is no Direct-X 10 support. So what? What uses that? > The interface is crude and slow. Not on my machine. It's much faster than XP was on the same machine. > My printer wasn't even recognized (Lexmark). Buy an HP printer and get over it. > My widescreen monitor came up with an out of range box sqaure in the > middle of the screen instead of the 1440x960 it should be. Learn how to configure your video card. It's three clicks. > Some application called Amarok kept freezing up on me when it would > search my drives for media. What a non-intuitive POS that program > Amarok is. I'm using it right now with no problems at all. > I tried burning a DVD with k3b and it made a perfect coaster every > time. Try using a Ubuntu native burner like GnomeBaker. > This is with a high end Plextor drive. > Why don't Plextools work with Linux? You used the wrong program, of course. > > And the list goes on. > I can't spend my life searching Google for answers so back to Vista I > go. > At least Vista works. > Linux? > > It just sucks, mostly your time. > > "Linux, if you think you hate it now, wait until you try it" > Gosh, I didn't have any of those problems and I am listening to Amarok as I type, great program! -- Alias To email me, remove shoes
Guest Richard Urban Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? On a Vista news group the person says he tried something else and is going back to Vista. It is much more appropriate than the post of Linux people who come here and berate people for using Vista. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) <pyles69@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1190655726.533487.116170@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... > Easy question to answer once you have actually tried Linux. > > I just finished tossing a Ubuntu CD in the trash because that is where > it belongs. > Now I truly understand why Linux can't seem to break into the desktop > market. > Linux sucks. > The programs look like something Windows had 15 years ago with Windows > 3.1. > The help system is non existant. > The fonts are terrible. > The graphics support is terrible. > There is no Direct-X 10 support. > The interface is crude and slow. > My printer wasn't even recognized (Lexmark). > My widescreen monitor came up with an out of range box sqaure in the > middle of the screen instead of the 1440x960 it should be. > Some application called Amarok kept freezing up on me when it would > search my drives for media. What a non-intuitive POS that program > Amarok is. > I tried burning a DVD with k3b and it made a perfect coaster every > time. > This is with a high end Plextor drive. > Why don't Plextools work with Linux? > > And the list goes on. > I can't spend my life searching Google for answers so back to Vista I > go. > At least Vista works. > Linux? > > It just sucks, mostly your time. > > "Linux, if you think you hate it now, wait until you try it" >
Guest chrisv Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? pyles69@gmail.com wrote: >Easy *plonk*
Guest David B. Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Here's one now. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm _________________________________________________________________________________ "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message news:fd8tmj$6e3$1@aioe.org... > pyles69@gmail.com wrote: >> Easy question to answer once you have actually tried Linux. >> >> I just finished tossing a Ubuntu CD in the trash because that is where >> it belongs. >> Now I truly understand why Linux can't seem to break into the desktop >> market. >> Linux sucks. >> The programs look like something Windows had 15 years ago with Windows >> 3.1. > > Not on my machine. > >> The help system is non existant. > > Existent ... existent. > >> The fonts are terrible. > > Learn how to download fonts. > >> The graphics support is terrible. > > Works great with my nVidia card. > >> There is no Direct-X 10 support. > > So what? What uses that? > >> The interface is crude and slow. > > Not on my machine. It's much faster than XP was on the same machine. > >> My printer wasn't even recognized (Lexmark). > > Buy an HP printer and get over it. > >> My widescreen monitor came up with an out of range box sqaure in the >> middle of the screen instead of the 1440x960 it should be. > > Learn how to configure your video card. It's three clicks. > >> Some application called Amarok kept freezing up on me when it would >> search my drives for media. What a non-intuitive POS that program >> Amarok is. > > I'm using it right now with no problems at all. > >> I tried burning a DVD with k3b and it made a perfect coaster every >> time. > > Try using a Ubuntu native burner like GnomeBaker. > >> This is with a high end Plextor drive. >> Why don't Plextools work with Linux? > > You used the wrong program, of course. > >> >> And the list goes on. >> I can't spend my life searching Google for answers so back to Vista I >> go. >> At least Vista works. >> Linux? >> >> It just sucks, mostly your time. >> >> "Linux, if you think you hate it now, wait until you try it" >> > > Gosh, I didn't have any of those problems and I am listening to Amarok as > I type, great program! > > -- > Alias > To email me, remove shoes
Guest David B. Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? You apparently don't understand what a troll is. Someone that posts in a Vista newsgroup, saying he likes Vista and is going back to it is not a troll. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm _________________________________________________________________________________ "Meat Plow" <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote in message news:195j2n.5q2.17.1@news.alt.net... > On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:42:06 -0700, pyles69 wrote: > >> Easy question > > Dumb troll. >
Guest bob Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:51:46 -0400, David B. wrote: > Now we just wait for the linux fanboys to reply and blame you , your > hardware, your computer skills, or your parentage, they will blame > everything except the OS itself. So why do you windows fanboys post here? Just to be asses? -- ´When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.¡ - Sinclair Lewis.
Guest Stephan Rose Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:42:06 -0700, pyles69 wrote: > Easy question to answer once you have actually tried Linux. > > I just finished tossing a Ubuntu CD in the trash because that is where > it belongs. > Now I truly understand why Linux can't seem to break into the desktop > market. > Linux sucks. > The programs look like something Windows had 15 years ago with Windows > 3.1. I don't recall Win 3.1 looking like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zkvu2daUnU&mode=related&search= > The help system is non existant. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty > The fonts are terrible. I like my LCD Subpixel smoothed fonts perfectly fine...though I will grant that upcoming 7.10 release I am running right now has better looking fonts than the 7.04 release. > The graphics support is terrible. Care to explain? I'm using a nVidia 8800 GTX by the way. > There is no Direct-X 10 support. Of course not. Nor will there ever be. DirectX is a Microsoft API for Microsoft Operating Systems. It has no place on non-MS operating systems. OpenGL exists for a reason. > The interface is crude and slow. Ever bother installing the appropriate video card driver for your card? I mean, try Vista on a VESA driver and tell me how blazing fast that would be... > My printer wasn't even recognized (Lexmark). My widescreen monitor came > up with an out of range box sqaure in the middle of the screen instead > of the 1440x960 it should be. Some application called Amarok kept > freezing up on me when it would search my drives for media. What a > non-intuitive POS that program Amarok is. Honestly I have no idea if Lexmark has any support or not. You did try to actually Add the printer though right? Or did you just expect applications to magically know it's there? As far as the screen issue is, I can believe that. The graphics subsystem is undergoing some major overhaul in the current release and problems such as that are being resolved. And as far as Amarok goes, yea I agree. I don't care much for it either. I just use Rhythmbox instead. Much faster, more lightweight and does an excellent job. > I tried burning a DVD with k3b and it made a perfect coaster every time. > This is with a high end Plextor drive. Why don't Plextools work with > Linux? Plextor drives work perfectly fine. I own two, as does K3B though I prefer to use other tools. And if Plextools is windows software, then no it won't work. Hint: Linux is not windows. Windows software is for windows. Linux software is for Linux. Linux software does not run on windows. Windows software does not run on Linux. > > And the list goes on. > I can't spend my life searching Google for answers so back to Vista I > go. > At least Vista works. > Linux? > > It just sucks, mostly your time. > > "Linux, if you think you hate it now, wait until you try it" *shrug* Your primary problem in my opinion is that you went to Linux expecting Windows. You expected it behave like windows. You expected it to run windows software. You expected it to be windows. You were disappointed when you discovered it isn't windows. If you want windows, then go use windows...I mean, you wouldn't go out and buy a hammer if you want a screwdriver right? -- Stephan 2003 Yamaha R6 君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは 君のこと忘れたときがないから
Guest Peter Köhlmann Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? David B. wrote: > You apparently don't understand what a troll is. Someone that posts in a > Vista newsgroup, saying he likes Vista and is going back to it is not a > troll. > You mean that "pyles69" is not a troll crossposting to these many groups? You are making your windows using fellow retards proud, it seems. BTW: "pyles69" is flatfish, who also posts as Abbie Diaz, achmed.jones, Aftab Singh, Allen Cusimano, Allie Perkins, Allison Juergans, allison_hunt1969, Alicia Hunt, Ana Thema, andyschipowitz, Anna Banger, anonymous, Archie, Archie Moss Bunker, Archie Watermann, Attila, Baba Booey, Babcock Johnson, babcock.latreen, Babu Singh, Bill Thomson, Billy <billy.the.kidd>,bill.gates.loves.me, BingoBongo, bison, Bjarne Jensen, bjornstad8800, BklynBoy, bonobo magilla, Boyce Mabri, BSEE, Bunsen Burner, Buster, c.baumstumpff, CBFalconer, Charles LeGrand, Charlie, Choppers McGee, Chris Thomas, Christine Abernathy, Claire Lynn, Clippy, Clock King, Collie Entragion, Colon Singh, common cold, compton.plaines_kid, Connie Hines, Corrie, corry.lebeu, Corrie Titlaand, Cory Dyvik, Curtis Wilson, cymon.says, Damian O'Leary, Dana Bush, Danny Kwong, dbx_boy, Deadpenguin, Debbie, Devon Dawson, dismoqualifetch, Donn Carlsbad, donna.bunting_tv, dont.pullout, Doug Richardson, Dragon.Boy, Dr.Long John Jones, dy.sector, echo.valley_26809, Elliot Zimmermann, Elwin Winters, Emmanuel Arias, Fawn Lebowitz, flatfish+++, foamy, frank boson, Franz Klammer, Fred Simmons, gabriele howorth, Gary Stewart, GayClod, George Cotton, George Littlefield, Gilbert, Gilbert Goiter, Gilbert Hochaim, gilligan, Greg Finnigan, Greg Laplante, Hans Kimm, Hans Tomlinson, Harry Hilton, Harvey Fogel, Heather, Heather69, Heather Trax, Heddy Seafield, Heidi van Wong, helmut.ginter, hepcat, high_pain_humper, Hugh Himless, hymen.the.jew, Ishmeal Hafizi, itchy balls, Ivan Mctavish, IvanaB, Jason, jeff.smiley, Jeff Szarka, jjwassermann, Joe Josephson, John, John Shelton, John Smith, Jorge Jorgensen, jorge_shillingford, Jose Lopez, juke_joint, kaptain kaput, Karel Olish, karen.bullfinch, Karen Hill, Karla Snodgress, kathy_krantz, Kaylie Solomon, Kendra, Kenneth Downs, Kenny Dugan, Kent Dorfman, Ken Johnson, Kim Coinop, Kinglen Wang, Kristen, kumba killington, Kurt Janker, Kyle Cadet, lafferty6, L Didio, Laura Shillingford, Le Farter, Le Yammy, Leaking Onion, Leo Diaz, Les Cramer, Les Turner, Les Walton, Leslie Bassman, Lilly, Lindy, linux.curious, Linux Exposer, Lisa Shavas, Lisa Cottmann, Lois Hunt, Long, long_tong_ling, luisortizhome, Lukumi Babalu Aye, Luna Lane, Major Mynor, Manny, Mario Fermin, McSwain, mista twista,Mogumbo, Moses, Mooshoo Bong Singh, mr.macfeelme, mycarisfast, narrows_whitefish@yahoo.com, nate_mcspook, Navid Shakibapour, okto_pussy, opensource.sucks, organ.creep, OSS KDE User, Paddy McCrockett, Paul Wannamaker, Paris Marriot, Patricia, Patrick Landrum, Patty LeGrange, patty pippins, Patty Poppins, percy samson, Peter Gluckman, Peter Kohlmann, peter.traphagen, Phil, Phillip Cornwall, phoung, phoung quoak, pickle_pete, Piss Clam, Poopy Pants McGee, pyles69, Quimby, Quinton Magee, Quizno Backer, Ray Schitzmepantz, Reporter, Rich, Richard P. Johnson, Richie, Richie O'Toole, Richie Spano, Robert Strunk, rothstein_ivan, Roy_Pestowitz, Roy.Schakemetitz, Roy.Schavedmenutz, Roy.Schavesmewankz, Roy.Schitzowitz, RP Modell, ryebra, Sally Vadi, Sammy, Sammy Whalen, Saul Goldblatt, schavemetitz, Schestertitz, schestowizzle, schestowitz, schitzmepantz, schisterwitz, Schlomo Smykowski, Sharon Cackle, Sharon Hubbasland, Sean, Sean Fitzhenry, Sean Macpherson, Sewer Rat, sewer_clown, Shelly K., Sherlock Holmes, Schlomo Rabinowitz, Simon, Simon Lewis, simply.lisa, Singer, sista sledgehammer, slacker.mcspritze, Spammy_Davis, spanny_davis, Stefan Karstensen, Stephan Simonsen, Stephanie, Stephanie Mannerz, Stephen, Stephen Olsen, Stephen Townshend, stomach.pump, SuckyB, Sue, sue quinterra, sully1999, SunnyB, Susan, Susan Bladder, Susan Lapinski, Susan Wong, Suzi Wong, Suzie Wong, Swampee, sylvano12tegriorgriach, Ted Bennington, Terri Sorensen, Terry Porter, The Beaver, Thorsten, Thorsten Thigpen, Timmy Luncford , Toby Rastus Roosovelt III, toe.mein, Tomas Bicsak, tomas.bozak, Tomas Dunton, Tomas Lucatorto, Tori, Tori Wassermann, Torre Stanslaand, Trace Dennison, Tracee, Traci, traci.alicock, traci.pusey, Traci Spritzendrainer, trailerpark, Trina Swallows, Trolly, Trudi Simpkins, Tryxie Lustern, udayshankar29, Uday Shankar, victimizedb, victimizedbyms, Vince Fontain, Vladimir Yepifano, Walter Bubniak, Wang Mycock, Wasser, Waterskidoo, wendy, Wendy Duzz, Wendy Toiletwater, Whizzer, Wilbur J, willy watkins jr, Willy Wong, wiltons_pypes, Winnie Septos, wizard.shot, Wobbles, wylbur.horseman, Yanick Schmuley and zyklon_C. Plus many, many, many more. -- This about sums it. Forget anything that idiot writes. It is garbage
Guest ArameFarpado Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Em Segunda, 24 de Setembro de 2007 19:27, Stephan Rose escreveu: >> There is no Direct-X 10 support. > > Of course not. Nor will there ever be. DirectX is a Microsoft API for > Microsoft Operating Systems. It has no place on non-MS operating systems. > OpenGL exists for a reason. There "direct-x" is our "dri", a poor solution for the ones that don't have a real GL GPU.
Guest David B. Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? See, here's another one. Where is "here"? I am posting in the Microsoft Vista group on the Microsoft news server, where should the Windows "fanboys" post? I am replying to a post that was also sent to a couple linux groups, not much I can do about that. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm _________________________________________________________________________________ "bob" <bob@home.org> wrote in message news:1ggcwp08k6ah6.8efkevh6j6bg$.dlg@40tude.net... > On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:51:46 -0400, David B. wrote: > >> Now we just wait for the linux fanboys to reply and blame you , your >> hardware, your computer skills, or your parentage, they will blame >> everything except the OS itself. > > So why do you windows fanboys post here? Just to be asses? > -- > > > ´When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying > a > cross.¡ > - Sinclair Lewis.
Guest Shenan Stanley Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? pyles69 wrote: > Easy question to answer once you have actually tried Linux. > > I just finished tossing a Ubuntu CD in the trash because that is > where it belongs. > Now I truly understand why Linux can't seem to break into the > desktop market. > Linux sucks. > The programs look like something Windows had 15 years ago with > Windows 3.1. > The help system is non existant. > The fonts are terrible. > The graphics support is terrible. > There is no Direct-X 10 support. > The interface is crude and slow. > My printer wasn't even recognized (Lexmark). > My widescreen monitor came up with an out of range box sqaure in the > middle of the screen instead of the 1440x960 it should be. > Some application called Amarok kept freezing up on me when it would > search my drives for media. What a non-intuitive POS that program > Amarok is. > I tried burning a DVD with k3b and it made a perfect coaster every > time. > This is with a high end Plextor drive. > Why don't Plextools work with Linux? > > And the list goes on. > I can't spend my life searching Google for answers so back to Vista > I go. > At least Vista works. > Linux? > > It just sucks, mostly your time. > > "Linux, if you think you hate it now, wait until you try it" Meat Plow wrote: > Dumb troll. David B. wrote: > You apparently don't understand what a troll is. Someone that posts > in a Vista newsgroup, saying he likes Vista and is going back to it > is not a troll. First - the definition of a newsgroup troll... - http://www.binaries.net/articles/newsgroup_trolls.htm - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll - http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci213222,00.html - http://dict.die.net/troll/ (last two listingsa at the bottom) - http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/t/troll.html You'll notice that one common theme is the posting of derogatory or inflammatory comments... While one could argue that they posted merely to state their own opinion on the matter in an appropriate forum - given the newsgroups posted to, the choice of wording and the use of deragatory statements instead of thought-out facts - that argument falls apart all too easily/quickly. Second - This was posted to several groups - at least one completely unrelated (the only one I am choosing to respond in) to the subject matter/body of the message. The original posting was placed in the following groups: - microsoft.public.windowsxp.general - comp.os.linux.advocacy - 24hoursupport.helpdesk - microsoft.public.windows.vista.general No where in the original posting was Windows XP mentioned (generally or specifically) - so what was the purpose of posting to 'microsoft.public.windowsxp.general' beyond trolling? The purpose of the 'microsoft.public.windowsxp.general' newsgroup is to obtain asssistance with problems one might be having they believe to be related to the Windows XP operating system. Trying *nix and returning to Vista has no component in it that concerns this group. I see no request for discussion in the original posting. It is merely a listing of negative comments from someone who has had a bad experience with an operating system. I see no problem that needs to be addressed in the original posting. I see no point in the posting being in at least one of the newsgroups it was posted to (this one.) All of those things added together (along with the fact it has worked and many people are arguing with the comments made) adds up to this posting being nothing more than a trolling expedition. Am I just as guilty - having responded? Possibly. However - I have no plans on commenting on what the original poster said - that is their opinion and they are welcome to it. Mine is that it does not belong in this particular newsgroup ('microsoft.public.windowsxp.general') as it doesn't mention and has nothing to do with the operating system or purpose of this particular newsgroup. -- Shenan Stanley -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Guest dennis@home Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? "David B." <brooks.dj@nomail.com> wrote in message news:u5t6ydt$HHA.5488@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > You apparently don't understand what a troll is. Someone that posts in a > Vista newsgroup, saying he likes Vista and is going back to it is not a > troll. Even when he crossposts to several other groups? Its easy to see crossposts in windows mail just look at the to: line.
Guest Ponder Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Hiya Richard Urban. <crosspost left intact for impact> In <news:u8s3LTt$HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> you wrote: > On a Vista news group the person says he tried something else and is going > back to Vista. > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,comp.os.linux.advocacy,24hoursupport.helpdesk,microsoft.public.windows.vista.general That's the trouble with auto-defenders, they can't recognise a massive crosspost nor when they're being trolled ;) -- PGP key ID - DSS:0x2661A952 Homepage: http://www.colinjones.co.uk ICQ# 1707811 Skittles Team: http://www.ddskittles.co.uk
Guest David B. Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Good points -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm _________________________________________________________________________________ "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message news:%23fdZIut$HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > pyles69 wrote: >> Easy question to answer once you have actually tried Linux. >> >> I just finished tossing a Ubuntu CD in the trash because that is >> where it belongs. >> Now I truly understand why Linux can't seem to break into the >> desktop market. >> Linux sucks. >> The programs look like something Windows had 15 years ago with >> Windows 3.1. >> The help system is non existant. >> The fonts are terrible. >> The graphics support is terrible. >> There is no Direct-X 10 support. >> The interface is crude and slow. >> My printer wasn't even recognized (Lexmark). >> My widescreen monitor came up with an out of range box sqaure in the >> middle of the screen instead of the 1440x960 it should be. >> Some application called Amarok kept freezing up on me when it would >> search my drives for media. What a non-intuitive POS that program >> Amarok is. >> I tried burning a DVD with k3b and it made a perfect coaster every >> time. >> This is with a high end Plextor drive. >> Why don't Plextools work with Linux? >> >> And the list goes on. >> I can't spend my life searching Google for answers so back to Vista >> I go. >> At least Vista works. >> Linux? >> >> It just sucks, mostly your time. >> >> "Linux, if you think you hate it now, wait until you try it" > > Meat Plow wrote: >> Dumb troll. > > David B. wrote: >> You apparently don't understand what a troll is. Someone that posts >> in a Vista newsgroup, saying he likes Vista and is going back to it >> is not a troll. > > First - the definition of a newsgroup troll... > > - http://www.binaries.net/articles/newsgroup_trolls.htm > - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll > - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll > - http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci213222,00.html > - http://dict.die.net/troll/ (last two listingsa at the bottom) > - http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/t/troll.html > > You'll notice that one common theme is the posting of derogatory or > inflammatory comments... > > While one could argue that they posted merely to state their own opinion > on the matter in an appropriate forum - given the newsgroups posted to, > the choice of wording and the use of deragatory statements instead of > thought-out facts - that argument falls apart all too easily/quickly. > > > Second - This was posted to several groups - at least one completely > unrelated (the only one I am choosing to respond in) to the subject > matter/body of the message. The original posting was placed in the > following groups: > > - microsoft.public.windowsxp.general > - comp.os.linux.advocacy > - 24hoursupport.helpdesk > - microsoft.public.windows.vista.general > > No where in the original posting was Windows XP mentioned (generally or > specifically) - so what was the purpose of posting to > 'microsoft.public.windowsxp.general' beyond trolling? The purpose of the > 'microsoft.public.windowsxp.general' newsgroup is to obtain asssistance > with problems one might be having they believe to be related to the > Windows XP operating system. Trying *nix and returning to Vista has no > component in it that concerns this group. > > > I see no request for discussion in the original posting. It is merely a > listing of negative comments from someone who has had a bad experience > with an operating system. I see no problem that needs to be addressed in > the original posting. I see no point in the posting being in at least one > of the newsgroups it was posted to (this one.) All of those things added > together (along with the fact it has worked and many people are arguing > with the comments made) adds up to this posting being nothing more than a > trolling expedition. > > Am I just as guilty - having responded? Possibly. However - I have no > plans on commenting on what the original poster said - that is their > opinion and they are welcome to it. Mine is that it does not belong in > this particular newsgroup ('microsoft.public.windowsxp.general') as it > doesn't mention and has nothing to do with the operating system or purpose > of this particular newsgroup. > > -- > Shenan Stanley > -- > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html >
Guest dennis@home Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message news:fd8tmj$6e3$1@aioe.org... > pyles69@gmail.com wrote: >> My widescreen monitor came up with an out of range box sqaure in the >> middle of the screen instead of the 1440x960 it should be. > > Learn how to configure your video card. It's three clicks. But quite difficult when you don't have a display to look at as I know from experience. You shouldn't have to borrow a screen just to set the display mode to something that works. Resorting to text mode and editing the xconfig file is a pain.
Guest The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Richard Urban wrote: > On a Vista news group the person says he tried something else and is > going back to Vista. > > It is much more appropriate than the post of Linux people who come here > and berate people for using Vista. > Yes, and much more appropriate than the post about linux server machines getting 'hacked'... -- Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group: http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html "Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer rights in the digital age are not frivolous." - Maura Corbett
Guest Alias Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? dennis@home wrote: > > "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message > news:fd8tmj$6e3$1@aioe.org... >> pyles69@gmail.com wrote: > >>> My widescreen monitor came up with an out of range box sqaure in the >>> middle of the screen instead of the 1440x960 it should be. >> >> Learn how to configure your video card. It's three clicks. > > But quite difficult when you don't have a display to look at as I know > from experience. Not the OP's experience. > You shouldn't have to borrow a screen just to set the display mode to > something that works. Not the OP's experience. > Resorting to text mode and editing the xconfig file is a pain. > > It took me three clicks and I didn't use a command line (that involves typing, not clicking). -- Alias To email me, remove shoes
Guest Stephan Rose Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:55:30 +0200, Alias wrote: > pyles69@gmail.com wrote: >> Easy question to answer once you have actually tried Linux. >> >> I just finished tossing a Ubuntu CD in the trash because that is where >> it belongs. >> Now I truly understand why Linux can't seem to break into the desktop >> market. >> Linux sucks. >> The programs look like something Windows had 15 years ago with Windows >> 3.1. > > Not on my machine. > >> The help system is non existant. > > Existent ... existent. > >> The fonts are terrible. > > Learn how to download fonts. He shouldn't have to. That said, I never had a problem with 7.04 font rendering, it looked perfectly fine to me...7.10 though *does* somehow do something different that does make them look better. I can't quite put my finger on what exactly it does different, but it does... > >> The graphics support is terrible. > > Works great with my nVidia card. > >> There is no Direct-X 10 support. > > So what? What uses that? > >> The interface is crude and slow. > > Not on my machine. It's much faster than XP was on the same machine. > >> My printer wasn't even recognized (Lexmark). > > Buy an HP printer and get over it. I suspect he never bothered adding it. I checked into the printer driver list and I found a very long list of Lexmark printers that are supported. > >> My widescreen monitor came up with an out of range box sqaure in the >> middle of the screen instead of the 1440x960 it should be. > > Learn how to configure your video card. It's three clicks. Difficult though to make the 3 clicks when one can't see the mouse pointer, isn't it? > >> Some application called Amarok kept freezing up on me when it would >> search my drives for media. What a non-intuitive POS that program >> Amarok is. > > I'm using it right now with no problems at all. > >> I tried burning a DVD with k3b and it made a perfect coaster every >> time. > > Try using a Ubuntu native burner like GnomeBaker. K3b *is* a native burner...and for all you know, he was running the KDE desktop which means that K3b would be the default burner. > >> This is with a high end Plextor drive. Why don't Plextools work with >> Linux? > > You used the wrong program, of course. K3b is not the wrong program. It's not my choice either, but it most certainly is not wrong. And for all you know, he was ru > > >> And the list goes on. >> I can't spend my life searching Google for answers so back to Vista I >> go. >> At least Vista works. >> Linux? >> >> It just sucks, mostly your time. >> >> "Linux, if you think you hate it now, wait until you try it" >> >> > Gosh, I didn't have any of those problems and I am listening to Amarok > as I type, great program! That doesn't make his problems any less non-existing Alias. A "It works on my system so the problem can't exist" response is about as useless as it gets. Now I'll say that some of his problems are just out of plain ignorance from expecting Linux to be identical to Windows. However, he does have some, even if only very few, actual genuine issues that I can understand without a problem. Issues that releases such as the upcoming 7.10 release in October addresses. So if Ubuntu Developers feel that they need to address such problems, they must exist don't you think? -- Stephan 2003 Yamaha R6 君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは 君のこと忘れたときがないから
Guest Stephan Rose Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:04:07 +0200, Alias wrote: > dennis@home wrote: >> >> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message >> news:fd8tmj$6e3$1@aioe.org... >>> pyles69@gmail.com wrote: >> >>>> My widescreen monitor came up with an out of range box sqaure in the >>>> middle of the screen instead of the 1440x960 it should be. >>> >>> Learn how to configure your video card. It's three clicks. >> >> But quite difficult when you don't have a display to look at as I know >> from experience. > > Not the OP's experience. > >> You shouldn't have to borrow a screen just to set the display mode to >> something that works. > > Not the OP's experience. > >> Resorting to text mode and editing the xconfig file is a pain. >> >> >> > It took me three clicks and I didn't use a command line (that involves > typing, not clicking). Alias, what part of "Out of range" error on a monitor don't you understand? -- Stephan 2003 Yamaha R6 君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは 君のこと忘れたときがないから
Guest dennis@home Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message news:fd91n7$g6b$1@aioe.org... > dennis@home wrote: >> >> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message >> news:fd8tmj$6e3$1@aioe.org... >>> pyles69@gmail.com wrote: >> >>>> My widescreen monitor came up with an out of range box sqaure in the >>>> middle of the screen instead of the 1440x960 it should be. >>> >>> Learn how to configure your video card. It's three clicks. >> >> But quite difficult when you don't have a display to look at as I know >> from experience. > > Not the OP's experience. Assumption based on the poor understanding of the evidence. He had an "out of range" box, they are frequently accompanied by nothing else. If the display can show what is being sent why would it be "out of range"? >> You shouldn't have to borrow a screen just to set the display mode to >> something that works. > > Not the OP's experience. More assumptions. >> Resorting to text mode and editing the xconfig file is a pain. >> >> > > It took me three clicks and I didn't use a command line (that involves > typing, not clicking). "Out of range"!
Guest Richard Urban Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? I am not being trolled. The Linux tools are being trolled. AND, THEY ARE HERE IN NUMBERS AS YOU CAN SEE. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) "Ponder" <cjspambuffer@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:1vi1m17vg3t3l.dlg@colinjones.co.uk... > Hiya Richard Urban. > > <crosspost left intact for impact> > > In <news:u8s3LTt$HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> you wrote: > >> On a Vista news group the person says he tried something else and is >> going >> back to Vista. > >> Newsgroups: >> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,comp.os.linux.advocacy,24hoursupport.helpdesk,microsoft.public.windows.vista.general > > That's the trouble with auto-defenders, they can't recognise a massive > crosspost nor when they're being trolled ;) > > -- > PGP key ID - DSS:0x2661A952 > Homepage: http://www.colinjones.co.uk ICQ# 1707811 > Skittles Team: http://www.ddskittles.co.uk
Guest peterwn Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? On Sep 25, 6:30 am, Peter Köhlmann <peter.koehlm...@t-online.de> wrote: > David B. wrote: > BTW: "pyles69" is flatfish, who also posts as > > Abbie Diaz, achmed.jones, Aftab Singh, Allen Cusimano, Allie Perkins, etc etc This is a terrible waste of bandwidth - would it not be better to put Flatfish's aliases on a web page and point to it?
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