Guest Charlie Tame Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Richard Urban wrote: > On a Vista news group the person says he tried something else and is > going back to Vista. > > It is much more appropriate than the post of Linux people who come here > and berate people for using Vista. > Mostly it's the Windows fanboys who berate users of Vista because they are a bit lost and a bit inexperienced with newsgroups. Seems to me the Linux people berate the fanboys, and that should not bother anyone with usenet experience... if they didn't keep throwing bait around ...
Guest Peter Köhlmann Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Richard Urban wrote: > I am not being trolled. The Linux tools are being trolled. AND, THEY ARE > HERE IN NUMBERS AS YOU CAN SEE. > Idiot -- Windows was created to keep stupid people away from UNIX." -- Tom Christiansen
Guest David B. Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Yeah, I know, I just never look, shame on me! -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm _________________________________________________________________________________ "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message news:FCDE1A46-39A1-42F6-9035-3C15723A61E8@microsoft.com... > > "David B." <brooks.dj@nomail.com> wrote in message > news:u5t6ydt$HHA.5488@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> You apparently don't understand what a troll is. Someone that posts in a >> Vista newsgroup, saying he likes Vista and is going back to it is not a >> troll. > > Even when he crossposts to several other groups? > Its easy to see crossposts in windows mail just look at the to: line. > >
Guest jon doglegs Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message news:3MKdnV523I8CnGXbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com... > On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:42:06 -0700, pyles69 wrote: > >> Easy question to answer once you have actually tried Linux. >> >> I just finished tossing a Ubuntu CD in the trash because that is where >> it belongs. >> Now I truly understand why Linux can't seem to break into the desktop >> market. >> Linux sucks. >> The programs look like something Windows had 15 years ago with Windows >> 3.1. > > I don't recall Win 3.1 looking like this: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zkvu2daUnU&mode=related&search= > >> The help system is non existant. > > http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty > >> The fonts are terrible. > > I like my LCD Subpixel smoothed fonts perfectly fine...though I will > grant that upcoming 7.10 release I am running right now has better > looking fonts than the 7.04 release. > >> The graphics support is terrible. > > Care to explain? I'm using a nVidia 8800 GTX by the way. > >> There is no Direct-X 10 support. > > Of course not. Nor will there ever be. DirectX is a Microsoft API for > Microsoft Operating Systems. It has no place on non-MS operating systems. > OpenGL exists for a reason. > >> The interface is crude and slow. > > Ever bother installing the appropriate video card driver for your card? I > mean, try Vista on a VESA driver and tell me how blazing fast that would > be... > >> My printer wasn't even recognized (Lexmark). My widescreen monitor came >> up with an out of range box sqaure in the middle of the screen instead >> of the 1440x960 it should be. Some application called Amarok kept >> freezing up on me when it would search my drives for media. What a >> non-intuitive POS that program Amarok is. > > Honestly I have no idea if Lexmark has any support or not. You did try to > actually Add the printer though right? Or did you just expect > applications to magically know it's there? > > As far as the screen issue is, I can believe that. The graphics subsystem > is undergoing some major overhaul in the current release and problems > such as that are being resolved. > > And as far as Amarok goes, yea I agree. I don't care much for it either. > I just use Rhythmbox instead. Much faster, more lightweight and does an > excellent job. > >> I tried burning a DVD with k3b and it made a perfect coaster every time. >> This is with a high end Plextor drive. Why don't Plextools work with >> Linux? > > Plextor drives work perfectly fine. I own two, as does K3B though I > prefer to use other tools. And if Plextools is windows software, then no > it won't work. Hint: Linux is not windows. Windows software is for > windows. Linux software is for Linux. Linux software does not run on > windows. Windows software does not run on Linux. > >> >> And the list goes on. >> I can't spend my life searching Google for answers so back to Vista I >> go. >> At least Vista works. >> Linux? >> >> It just sucks, mostly your time. >> >> "Linux, if you think you hate it now, wait until you try it" > > *shrug* Your primary problem in my opinion is that you went to Linux > expecting Windows. > > You expected it behave like windows. > > You expected it to run windows software. > > You expected it to be windows. > > You were disappointed when you discovered it isn't windows. no, maybe he just expected it to be at least useable bullshiteos, winblows, blister or linfux? who cares ... > > If you want windows, then go use windows...I mean, you wouldn't go out > and buy a hammer if you want a screwdriver right? i screwdriver can be used as a hammer if you use yer imagination .. > -- > Stephan > 2003 Yamaha R6 > > 君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは > 君のこと忘れたときがないから jd
Guest Rick Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:47:06 -0400, David B. wrote: > See, here's another one. > Where is "here"? I am posting in the Microsoft Vista group on the > Microsoft news server, where should the Windows "fanboys" post? I am > replying to a post that was also sent to a couple linux groups, not much > I can do about that. Actually, you could have. All you had to do was trim your post list or set your followups. -- Rick
Guest Ponder Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Hiya Richard Urban. In <news:uKX09Hu$HHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> you wrote: > I am not being trolled. The Linux tools are being trolled. AND, THEY ARE > HERE IN NUMBERS AS YOU CAN SEE. And yet still you answer. Hook line and stinker. You even think shouting makes you more smart, well I have news for you: it doesn't ;) Follow-up set to 24hoursupport.helpdesk, which is probably the most appropriate place for us to laugh at your continued idiocy (and the place I'm reading it) ;) -- PGP key ID - DSS:0x2661A952 Homepage: http://www.colinjones.co.uk ICQ# 1707811 Skittles Team: http://www.ddskittles.co.uk
Guest Bruce Chambers Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? David B. wrote: > See, here's another one. > Where is "here"? I am posting in the Microsoft Vista group on the > Microsoft news server, where should the Windows "fanboys" post? I am > replying to a post that was also sent to a couple linux groups, not much > I can do about that. > Then you'd best learn use your newsreader to delete groups to which you do not want your to go. You *are* in control of where your reply goes; and you included the Linux religion's primary newsgroup. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot
Guest Muse Gruppes Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Peter Köhlmann wrote: > David B. wrote: > >> You apparently don't understand what a troll is. Someone that posts <sssssssssnip> Jesus, you spent time gathering all his screenames? what are you his greatest fan or his stalker?
Guest HeyBub Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? peterwn wrote: > On Sep 25, 6:30 am, Peter Köhlmann <peter.koehlm...@t-online.de> > wrote: >> David B. wrote: > >> BTW: "pyles69" is flatfish, who also posts as >> >> Abbie Diaz, achmed.jones, Aftab Singh, Allen Cusimano, Allie >> Perkins, etc etc > > This is a terrible waste of bandwidth - would it not be better to put > Flatfish's aliases on a web page and point to it? In future, please abbreviate the word "bandwidth" as "bndwdth" thereby saving precious bndwdth. Thnk yu.
Guest Tiberius Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? I agree with you that linux is not ready by far.. you would have a little better luck trying http://www.pclinuxos.com HOWEVER vista has many problems that XP never had.. so thats why I call vista the new version of MS linux also called VISTUX (vista linux or vista sucks) Xp is the best OS in the market for the desktop use. Period! <pyles69@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1190655726.533487.116170@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... > Easy question to answer once you have actually tried Linux. > > I just finished tossing a Ubuntu CD in the trash because that is where > it belongs. > Now I truly understand why Linux can't seem to break into the desktop > market. > Linux sucks. > The programs look like something Windows had 15 years ago with Windows > 3.1. > The help system is non existant. > The fonts are terrible. > The graphics support is terrible. > There is no Direct-X 10 support. > The interface is crude and slow. > My printer wasn't even recognized (Lexmark). > My widescreen monitor came up with an out of range box sqaure in the > middle of the screen instead of the 1440x960 it should be. > Some application called Amarok kept freezing up on me when it would > search my drives for media. What a non-intuitive POS that program > Amarok is. > I tried burning a DVD with k3b and it made a perfect coaster every > time. > This is with a high end Plextor drive. > Why don't Plextools work with Linux? > > And the list goes on. > I can't spend my life searching Google for answers so back to Vista I > go. > At least Vista works. > Linux? > > It just sucks, mostly your time. > > "Linux, if you think you hate it now, wait until you try it" >
Guest Alias Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? dennis@home wrote: > > "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message > news:fd91n7$g6b$1@aioe.org... >> dennis@home wrote: >>> >>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:fd8tmj$6e3$1@aioe.org... >>>> pyles69@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>>> My widescreen monitor came up with an out of range box sqaure in the >>>>> middle of the screen instead of the 1440x960 it should be. >>>> >>>> Learn how to configure your video card. It's three clicks. >>> >>> But quite difficult when you don't have a display to look at as I >>> know from experience. >> >> Not the OP's experience. > > Assumption based on the poor understanding of the evidence. > > He had an "out of range" box, they are frequently accompanied by nothing > else. > If the display can show what is being sent why would it be "out of range"? > >>> You shouldn't have to borrow a screen just to set the display mode to >>> something that works. >> >> Not the OP's experience. > > More assumptions. > >>> Resorting to text mode and editing the xconfig file is a pain. >>> >>> >> >> It took me three clicks and I didn't use a command line (that involves >> typing, not clicking). > > "Out of range"! Oops, I missed that. My bad. -- Alias To email me, remove shoes
Guest Winda Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Just to clarify one point pyles69, with 16MB RAM and no more than 2 applications open at any one time Windows 3.11 ran quite well. Which was good for the tecnology of the day. Had no driver problems. Please with all respect Windows 3.1x should not be placed in the same garbage bin, Linux get thrown in. I have a real long story with SuSE Linux and getting a USB dialup modem working. SuSE's 90 day support commitment that comes with a purchsed package disappeared. I know there are similar stories with Microsoft, but driver issues don't go for eternity with Windows. - Winda <pyles69@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1190655726.533487.116170@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... | Easy question to answer once you have actually tried Linux. | | I just finished tossing a Ubuntu CD in the trash because that is where | it belongs. | Now I truly understand why Linux can't seem to break into the desktop | market. | Linux sucks. | The programs look like something Windows had 15 years ago with Windows | 3.1. | The help system is non existant. | The fonts are terrible. | The graphics support is terrible. | There is no Direct-X 10 support. | The interface is crude and slow. | My printer wasn't even recognized (Lexmark). | My widescreen monitor came up with an out of range box sqaure in the | middle of the screen instead of the 1440x960 it should be. | Some application called Amarok kept freezing up on me when it would | search my drives for media. What a non-intuitive POS that program | Amarok is. | I tried burning a DVD with k3b and it made a perfect coaster every | time. | This is with a high end Plextor drive. | Why don't Plextools work with Linux? | | And the list goes on. | I can't spend my life searching Google for answers so back to Vista I | go. | At least Vista works. | Linux? | | It just sucks, mostly your time. | | "Linux, if you think you hate it now, wait until you try it" |
Guest jonathan perreault Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? may be you shoulda used a different version of linux not all of them sux, me i love it i run it to show offmy pc from my cdrom, great linux you don't even need to install it just boot from cd. -- Jonathan Perreault Personnal Advice To You: #1: Do Not Undermine Windows's Work, Or It'll Undermine You As A User. #2: Torture Windows (Any) Now Before It Tortures You Best Comments From Users: No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message news:%23ecIKqv$HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > David B. wrote: >> See, here's another one. >> Where is "here"? I am posting in the Microsoft Vista group on the >> Microsoft news server, where should the Windows "fanboys" post? I am >> replying to a post that was also sent to a couple linux groups, not much >> I can do about that. >> > > > Then you'd best learn use your newsreader to delete groups to which you do > not want your to go. You *are* in control of where your reply goes; and > you included the Linux religion's primary newsgroup. > > > -- > > Bruce Chambers > > Help us help you: > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin > > Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand > Russell > > The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has > killed a great many philosophers. > ~ Denis Diderot
Guest William Poaster Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: Is Vista A Joke? Why are so few using Vista? Re: Is Vista A Joke? Why are so few using Vista? Tiberius wrote: > I agree with you that linux is not ready by far.. > you would have a little better luck trying http://www.pclinuxos.com > > HOWEVER vista has many problems that XP never had.. > > so thats why I call vista the new version of MS linux also called > VISTUX (vista linux or vista sucks) > > Xp is the best OS in the market for the desktop use. Period! Another winidiot who's replied to a troll, & no idea what he's talking about. http://www.zoliblog.com/2007/09/14/you-think-you-own-your-computer-think-twice-microsoft-shows-whos-boss/ http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,128660-c,onlinesecurity/article.html http://www.jawjab.com/20-reasons-why-vista-sucks/ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17739772/ http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199201492
Guest Tiberius Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: Is Vista A Joke? Why are so few using Vista? Re: Is Vista A Joke? Why are so few using Vista? I have most likley used linux more than you have probably tested more distros than you I am sure I know more about linux than you and you call me a wintard? You compared to me are the wintard... LOL "William Poaster" <wp@FreeBSD-6.2-mc2.eu> wrote in message news:13ficko2gnl388e@news.supernews.com... > Tiberius wrote: > >> I agree with you that linux is not ready by far.. >> you would have a little better luck trying http://www.pclinuxos.com >> >> HOWEVER vista has many problems that XP never had.. >> >> so thats why I call vista the new version of MS linux also called >> VISTUX (vista linux or vista sucks) >> >> Xp is the best OS in the market for the desktop use. Period! > > Another winidiot who's replied to a troll, & no idea what he's talking > about. > > http://www.zoliblog.com/2007/09/14/you-think-you-own-your-computer-think-twice-microsoft-shows-whos-boss/ > http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,128660-c,onlinesecurity/article.html > http://www.jawjab.com/20-reasons-why-vista-sucks/ > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17739772/ > http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199201492 > >
Guest hash Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: Is Vista A Joke? Why are so few using Vista? Re: Is Vista A Joke? Why are so few using Vista? I think vista is good if not best. Less error messages and hang-ups or crashes. hash "Tiberius" <Tibery@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:46f9480a@newsgate.x-privat.org... >I have most likley used linux more than you > have probably tested more distros than you > I am sure I know more about linux than you > and you call me a wintard? > > You compared to me are the wintard... LOL > > > > "William Poaster" <wp@FreeBSD-6.2-mc2.eu> wrote in message > news:13ficko2gnl388e@news.supernews.com... >> Tiberius wrote: >> >>> I agree with you that linux is not ready by far.. >>> you would have a little better luck trying http://www.pclinuxos.com >>> >>> HOWEVER vista has many problems that XP never had.. >>> >>> so thats why I call vista the new version of MS linux also called >>> VISTUX (vista linux or vista sucks) >>> >>> Xp is the best OS in the market for the desktop use. Period! >> >> Another winidiot who's replied to a troll, & no idea what he's talking >> about. >> >> http://www.zoliblog.com/2007/09/14/you-think-you-own-your-computer-think-twice-microsoft-shows-whos-boss/ >> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,128660-c,onlinesecurity/article.html >> http://www.jawjab.com/20-reasons-why-vista-sucks/ >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17739772/ >> http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199201492 >> >> > >
Guest Tiberius Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: Is Vista A Joke? Why are so few using Vista? Re: Is Vista A Joke? Why are so few using Vista? less error messages(*) but millions of UAC messages right in your face.. LOL (*) (perhaps but not likley but anyway..).. "hash" <hash@abcspam.com> wrote in message news:eysby%235$HHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >I think vista is good if not best. Less error messages and hang-ups or >crashes. > > hash > > > "Tiberius" <Tibery@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:46f9480a@newsgate.x-privat.org... >>I have most likley used linux more than you >> have probably tested more distros than you >> I am sure I know more about linux than you >> and you call me a wintard? >> >> You compared to me are the wintard... LOL >> >> >> >> "William Poaster" <wp@FreeBSD-6.2-mc2.eu> wrote in message >> news:13ficko2gnl388e@news.supernews.com... >>> Tiberius wrote: >>> >>>> I agree with you that linux is not ready by far.. >>>> you would have a little better luck trying http://www.pclinuxos.com >>>> >>>> HOWEVER vista has many problems that XP never had.. >>>> >>>> so thats why I call vista the new version of MS linux also called >>>> VISTUX (vista linux or vista sucks) >>>> >>>> Xp is the best OS in the market for the desktop use. Period! >>> >>> Another winidiot who's replied to a troll, & no idea what he's talking >>> about. >>> >>> http://www.zoliblog.com/2007/09/14/you-think-you-own-your-computer-think-twice-microsoft-shows-whos-boss/ >>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,128660-c,onlinesecurity/article.html >>> http://www.jawjab.com/20-reasons-why-vista-sucks/ >>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17739772/ >>> http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199201492 >>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Poprivet Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? bob wrote: > On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:51:46 -0400, David B. wrote: > >> Now we just wait for the linux fanboys to reply and blame you , your >> hardware, your computer skills, or your parentage, they will blame >> everything except the OS itself. > > So why do you windows fanboys post here? Just to be asses? Ooooh, record time to prove the corrolary! Good going!
Guest wm_walsh@hotmail.com Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Hi! (I suppose this is a stupid trolling attempt, but what the heck?) I've used a lot of Linux distributions over the years. As time has gone by, they have come to be faster, easier and better to use. There's been a lot of progress made on these fronts, but there is still need for more progress. Most recently I obtained a Power Macintosh G4/400 "Sawtooth". The hard drive had been wiped, and the machine came to me at a very low purchase price and in need of minor repairs. I repaired it and thought about what OS I should use. In the end, I chose Fedora Core 6 Linux for PowerPC systems because I could not justify the $129 for a Mac OS X license. I had used the system when it was running Mac OS X 10.3.9 and it was always sluggish. The good: Under Fedora Core 6, this system really took off. Had it not been obvious that the computer was unchanged apart from the operating system, I wouldn't have believed it was the same hardware. Nearly all the hardware works perfectly. Sound, USB, Firewire, etc...it was all easily detected and configured. Setup was a lot easier than I thought it might be. Adding software packages has been relatively painless. Reliability and stability are second to none. Under the Mac OS, this system sometimes crashed for unknown reasons. Under Linux, it has been nothing but stable. Programs look nice--on the surface, at least, a lot of time and effort has been put into making things pretty to look at. Networking--hey, hey....Windows sharing courtesy of Samba worked right after I turned it on. No swearing, cursing or diddling around. That is really great! Preloaded applications--Amongst many others, OpenOffice.org and Firefox were preinstalled and ready to use. Again, this is really great. Now those are the strong points--and they have been strong enough to keep me using Linux on this computer. But there are some things which are not so great: Printing--above and beyond everything else that's been troublesome, printing takes the cake. I tried to set up my trusty DeskJet 5850 printer on this computer. It shouldn't be hard--the DJ5850 is a pretty generic PCL compliant printer with onboard JetDirect hardware. Oh, was I wrong about that. Windows prints to it. Both Mac OS X and the "classic" Mac OS print to it. I even seem to remember getting it to work under OS/2 for a while. But Linux just wants to piss me off, to be blunt. Setting up the printer was a chore (oh, CUPS, where are you?), using the printer was fraught with a lot of fiddling around and sometimes things just ended in disaster with the printing subsystem going vacant or getting stuck in a never ending loop. Eric S. Raymond wrote an article about the sorry state of printing under Fedora Core 1. Here we are, seemingly six major releases later, and guess what? It *STILL* doesn't work right! Aaaaaagh! http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cups-horror.html Ah, perhaps I'm doing it wrong... I just don't care any more. It was easier to hook up a USB floppy or put the files I wanted to print on another system on the network. I haven't been able to figure out how to make Linux send DPMS signals to my monitor. The screen blanks, but the monitor itself stays fully powered. Media playback: I wanted to play some MP3s. Most of them were downloaded podcasts. A few media players came preloaded, and they were quite nice to interact with. But none of them would actually play an MP3 file. In fact, it was worse than that. The programs I tried just ignored me or threw up cryptic error messages. Okay, this is a little less than wonderful. But I won't let myself get discouraged quite that easily... I started on the surface with this problem and did manage to solve it eventually. It turns out that Fedora doesn't come packaged with a complete set of the gstreamer libraries and components. On the Fedora web site, a very positive spin is put on this--it is basically said that Fedora Core Linux embraces everything that is open and free in the software world, and that this seemingly includes media playback formats. They go on to recommend use of Ogg Vorbis audio for all your media ripping needs. Which is nice, it's just not very feasible when I have an MP3 that I didn't make, don't want to transcode and would really like to hear *now*. I did find the rest of the gstreamer libraries compiled in binary format for PowerPC microprocessors. And I even managed to get them installed with some instructions I found. But as I was doing this, I wondered just why I wanted to be screwing around with this in the first place? And why did it take so much diddling around to figure out that missing libraries were the problem? Why couldn't ANY of these media player programs say either in a dialog or the included help system something to the effect of "Hey dummy! You might be running an operating system that needs to have some pieces added to it in order to do what you're asking!" Again, this could be easier. And then there is DVD playback. I am fully aware that most of the trouble in this department isn't the Linux community's fault. But still...I've got a DVD-ROM drive in this system and I might like to use it. On Windows I can buy a DVD playback application or even use VLC just by downloading and installing it. The Macintosh comes with a DVD playback app, and VLC can again be easily used. I didn't find a version of VLC compiled for PowerPC Linux systems at the time, and I'm just not up to taking the time to try and compile one at this point. It probably wouldn't work in some creative manner, and there's a Mac mini across the room anyway. I tried to find instructions for DVD playback and didn't end up in anything productive. Oh well. The last thing that bothers me is the way some members of the Linux community think. Some of them have the idea that if you have to ask about something, need instructions or can't quite pull it off, that you are a complete idiot who shouldn't even be allowed to have a computer. This is not how you attract newcomers to your platform. In the end, and with years of working with various Linux distributions on many different pieces of hardware, I have come to the conclusion that Linux is a solid, reliable operating system that works well in many roles. It has certainly grown up tremendously. But it still needs improvement...mostly just to take care of "stupid bugs" and things that don't quite live up to expectations or aren't as easy/well documented as they should be. William
Guest Peter Köhlmann Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? The racist, liar and software thief Gary Stewart (flatfish) nymshifted: < snip flatfish droppings > Poor flatfish. Now you are even reduced to answering your own nyms It is difficult to imagine something more pathetic that that -- Microsoft? Is that some kind of a toilet paper?
Guest chrisv Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? wm_walsh@hotmail.com wrote: >Hi! Plonk!
Guest JEDIDIAH Posted September 28, 2007 Posted September 28, 2007 Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? Re: Is Linux A Joke? It's free so why are so few using Linux? On 2007-09-26, wm_walsh@hotmail.com <wm_walsh@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi! > > (I suppose this is a stupid trolling attempt, but what the heck?) > > I've used a lot of Linux distributions over the years. As time has > gone by, they have come to be faster, easier and better to use. > There's been a lot of progress made on these fronts, but there is > still need for more progress. [deletia] You have huh? Then why did you start out by installing a server Linux distribution for DESKTOP use? It's like installing Win2k3 and then complaining that something in Direct3D isn't quite right. Not only is it NOT a desktop distribution, it's also a perpetual beta. So not you've started out by giving yourself not one but two handicaps. Add in "configuration stability" and you've probably got a 3rd (handicap). -- Sure, I could use iTunes even under Linux. However, I have ||| better things to do with my time than deal with how iTunes doesn't / | \ want to play nicely with everyone else's data (namely mine). I'd rather create a DVD using those Linux apps we're told don't exist.
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