Halo 3 Released Tonight..Where is the Linux version? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

September 25, 2007

Re: Halo 3 Released Tonight..Where is the Linux version? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Re: Halo 3 Released Tonight..Where is the Linux version? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

"dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message

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> "Richard Parkin" <a@b.com> wrote in message

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>> <collie4roy@gmail.com> wrote in message

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>>> Sorry Linux users, you loooze again.

>>> The best games are written for Windows.

>>

>> The "best" games are coded by the biggest companies who target the

>> platform with the largest user base to ensure they get a return on their

>> investment. The fact that Windows has the biggest user base says nothing

>> about the relative merits of one OS over another.

>>

>

> It does.. it says that if you want to run games windows is better than

> Linux.

> Its the same for any application if you want that application you need an

> OS and platform it runs on.

> No amount of people screaming this OS is better than that one will get

> around the fundamental need to run applications.

And such commercial applications get developed for platform with the largest

user base to ensure they get a return on their investment. The fact that

Windows has the biggest user base says nothing about the relative merits of

one OS over another.

Hmm - this argument could go on for a while ;)

September 25, 2007

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"Richard Parkin" <a@b.com> wrote in message

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> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message

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>> "Richard Parkin" <a@b.com> wrote in message

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>>> <collie4roy@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:1190680420.331117.159580@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

>>>> Sorry Linux users, you loooze again.

>>>> The best games are written for Windows.

>>>

>>> The "best" games are coded by the biggest companies who target the

>>> platform with the largest user base to ensure they get a return on their

>>> investment. The fact that Windows has the biggest user base says nothing

>>> about the relative merits of one OS over another.

>>>

>>

>> It does.. it says that if you want to run games windows is better than

>> Linux.

>> Its the same for any application if you want that application you need an

>> OS and platform it runs on.

>> No amount of people screaming this OS is better than that one will get

>> around the fundamental need to run applications.

>

> And such commercial applications get developed for platform with the

> largest user base to ensure they get a return on their investment. The

> fact that Windows has the biggest user base says nothing about the

> relative merits of one OS over another.

>

> Hmm - this argument could go on for a while ;)

>

I'll stop it then..

No OS has any merits over any other OS..

Only an application + OS + platform have any merits at all.

None are much use on their own.

September 25, 2007

Re: Halo 3 Released Tonight..Where is the Linux version?BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Re: Halo 3 Released Tonight..Where is the Linux version?BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:54:57 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

> "Richard Parkin" <a@b.com> wrote in message

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>> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message

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>>> "Richard Parkin" <a@b.com> wrote in message

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>>>> <collie4roy@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:1190680420.331117.159580@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

>>>>> Sorry Linux users, you loooze again.

>>>>> The best games are written for Windows.

>>>>

>>>> The "best" games are coded by the biggest companies who target the

>>>> platform with the largest user base to ensure they get a return on

>>>> their investment. The fact that Windows has the biggest user base

>>>> says nothing about the relative merits of one OS over another.

>>>>

>>> It does.. it says that if you want to run games windows is better than

>>> Linux.

>>> Its the same for any application if you want that application you need

>>> an OS and platform it runs on.

>>> No amount of people screaming this OS is better than that one will get

>>> around the fundamental need to run applications.

>>

>> And such commercial applications get developed for platform with the

>> largest user base to ensure they get a return on their investment. The

>> fact that Windows has the biggest user base says nothing about the

>> relative merits of one OS over another.

>>

>> Hmm - this argument could go on for a while ;)

>>

> I'll stop it then..

> No OS has any merits over any other OS.. Only an application + OS +

> platform have any merits at all. None are much use on their own.

Not entirely true. OS have merits on their own if one needs to throw away

their hardware to run the new version of the OS and potentially can't

afford to do so. At that point in time, alternatives that don't require

this can become very tempting even if one has to make a sacrifice or two.

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September 25, 2007

Re: Halo 3 Released Tonight..Where is the Linux version?BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Re: Halo 3 Released Tonight..Where is the Linux version?BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:33:40 -0700, collie4roy wrote:

> Sorry Linux users, you loooze again.

> The best games are written for Windows.

>

> There are Halo parties happening at the local computer stores, free food

> soda etc

>

> Not a sign of Linux anywhere..........

Where's the Mac version? Or the PC version?

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September 25, 2007

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Re: Halo 3 Released Tonight..Where is the Linux version? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

<spike1@freenet.co.uk> wrote in message

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> jon doglegs <null@null.null> did eloquently scribble:

>

>> <collie4roy@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:1190680420.331117.159580@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

>>> Sorry Linux users, you loooze again.

>>> The best games are written for Windows.

>>>

>>> There are Halo parties happening at the local computer stores, free

>>> food soda etc

>>>

>>> Not a sign of Linux anywhere..........

>>>

>

>> lol, penguins pwned ..

>

> XP can run it, can it?

> Or do you need to downgrade?

> --

From what I can see Vista can't even run it because it appears to have only

been released for the Xbox360 at this time.

Halo 2 works on XP with a few hacks, (an external loader), but it can't be

played online.

I suppose console jockeys get excited about being able to play online, but

since I had been playing online for years before it was ever available on a

console it was all a bit of a yawn to me, and many others I suspect.

AFAIK xbox360 doesn't support DX10, so it's not likely the game will need

DX10 when it's eventually released on Vista, (of course they could recompile

it to use DX10, but they never bothered with H2).

FWIW you can't just rename DX9 files with DX10 names and get your DX10

software working. It doesn't work that way. You need hardware that supports

DX10.

There's not much new in multiplayer, and what there is is usually being done

by PC games first, so not being able to play H2 online isn't much of a loss.

I liked both Halo games for what they are, but it takes a special kind of

idiot to want to line up at a store all night to get a few cents worth of

free food for an overpriced piece of software.

A bored idiot I would guess.

Certainly though if Linux advocates want more users at the desktop level

they will need to get OpenGL back up to speed and as an options in game

titles.

Having said that, it's probably easier for a Linux user to grab a cracked

copy of XP/Vista, dual boot and play games on that, (not advocating it, just

stating a reality).

September 25, 2007

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Re: Halo 3 Released Tonight..Where is the Linux version?BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

collie4roy wrote:

> Sorry

*plonk*

September 25, 2007

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"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in

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> "Steven" <NOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>> Unfortunately I think its only functional on vista , allough some

>> hackers bypassed that and had it going on xp , so if you can get it

>> running on xp your have better fps and its more playable :P

>

> So you can run Halo 3 with DirectX9? Surely the graphics will not

> look as good. Or are you saying that there is a DirectX10 hack for

> XP?

>

> ss.

Forget about Direct X, I don't even think you can run it with Windows.

AFAIK there is no Windows version yet.

It does say somthing about Microsoft's sucesses though because they seem

able to attract the public, generate excitement etc while Linux languishes

and is totally ignored.

There aren't many items that are given away for free that get almost

completely ignored like Linux does and considering the alternatives

(Windows/OSX) are very expensive, it doesn't say much about Linux when it

can't generate the kind of enthusiasm a stupid game can.

September 25, 2007

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"Peter Köhlmann" wrote ...

> ...

> --

> ...

> Vending machines don't sell quiche.

They're called breakfast burritos.

September 25, 2007

Re: Halo 3 Released Tonight..Where is the Linux version? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Re: Halo 3 Released Tonight..Where is the Linux version? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

collie4roy@gmail.com wrote:

> Sorry Linux users, you loooze again.

> The best games are written for Windows.

>

> There are Halo parties happening at the local computer stores, free

> food soda etc

>

> Not a sign of Linux anywhere..........

Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> E-tailer cuts licensing costs with Linux server

>

> ,----[ Quote ]

> | An online retailer has saved more than £56,000 in software licensing

> | costs after moving its IT platform from Microsoft Windows to Linux.

> `----

>

> http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/09/24/226987

e-tailer-cuts-licensing-costs-with-linux-server.htm

>

> Related (from HPT):

>

> http://www.levanta.com/linuxstudy/index.shtml

>

> http://www.levanta.com/linuxstudy/EMA_Levanta-Linux_RR.pdf

>

> ,----[ Quote ]

> | Executive Summary

> |

> | In various older studies, Microsoft and some analysts claimed

> | Linux has a higher Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) than

> | Windows. They attributed the difference mainly to higher system

> | management costs, and concluded that the higher TCO

> | outweighed the much lower license and acquisition costs for Linux.

> | However, in a new study of over 200 Linux enterprises, Enterprise

> | Management Associates (EMA) found that this

> | perception is no longer accurate. Sophisticated management tools

> | now allow Linux management to be fast, effective, and

> | inexpensive. With far lower acquisition costs, Linux is now a

> | cost-effective alternative to Windows.

> | EMA analyzed the cost factors cited in previous studies and found

> | the following results:

> | ? Provisioning ? 75% of administrators using sophisticated

> | tools can provision a system in less than 1 hour; one

> | third can provision a system in less than 30 minutes.

> | ? Patch management ? most Linux administrators spend less

> | than 5 minutes per server per week on patch management.

> | Sophisticated management tools reduce this effort even

> | further.

> | ? Configuration management ? supporting multiple versions of

> | a given distribution has no discernible impact on

> | Linux management. In some cases, respondents actually had

> | more versions of Windows than Linux.

> | ? Reliability ? most respondents reported 99.99% or higher

> | availability for their Linux systems. A significant number

> | (17%) report no downtime at all.

> | ? Problem resolution ? in over 60% of cases, when problems

> | occur in Linux environments they are diagnosed and

> | repaired in less than 30 minutes, over 8 times faster

> | than industry average.

> | ? Management and support ? 88% of enterprises with Linux and

> | Windows spend less effort managing Linux; 97%

> | believe it is, at worst, the same for both systems.

> | Respondents with sophisticated management tools all report

> | Linux management is the same or easier than Windows

> | management.

> | ? Storage management ? enterprises with sophisticated

> | management tools did not find any significant difference in

> | storage management effort or utilization for either

> | Windows or Linux.

> | ? Resource costs ? most administrators, for either Linux or

> | Windows, earn under $60k. Salaries for combined

> | Linux/Windows administrators are only marginally higher

> | than for Linux-only administrators. Linux skills are

> | readily available.

> | ? Consulting and training costs ? 79% of enterprises spent

> | nothing on Linux consulting, and 63% spent nothing on

> | training. Only 4% spent over $10K on consulting or training.

> | In addition, this research found the following in areas not

> | adequately addressed in previous studies:

> | ? Acquisition costs ? for similar environments, Linux

> | acquisition costs can be almost $60,000 less per server than

> | Windows in software costs alone. Windows also incurs

> | higher hardware costs.

> | ? Productivity ? Linux tends to be more productive, as Linux

> | administrators tend to manage more servers than

> | Windows administrators, and Linux systems tend to handle

> | greater workloads than Windows systems.

> | ? Security Management ? 75% of Linux administrators spend

> | less than 10 minutes per server per week managing

> | security. With sophisticated management tools, this goes

> | up to over 85%.

> | ? Virus and Spyware Management ? 95% of Linux administrators

> | with sophisticated tools spend less than 10

> | minutes per server per week managing viruses and spyware.

> | Respondents strongly endorsed Linux as inherently

> | less vulnerable. No administrator reported spending more

> | time on Linux than Windows.

> `----

These are extremely powerful statements coming from business.

They are grinding windummies into powder.

September 26, 2007

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collie4roy@gmail.com wrote:

>There are Halo parties happening at the local computer stores, free

>food soda etc

http://www-tech.mit.edu/V127/N41/graphics/halo3.html

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September 28, 2007

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On Sep 24, 7:33 pm, collie4...@gmail.com wrote:

> Sorry Linux users, you loooze again.

> The best games are written for Windows.

>

> There are Halo parties happening at the local computer stores, free

> food soda etc

>

> Not a sign of Linux anywhere..........

Somehow I think we'll survive.

September 29, 2007

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whittmadden <whittmadden@gmail.com> espoused:

> On Sep 24, 7:33 pm, collie4...@gmail.com wrote:

>> Sorry Linux users, you loooze again.

>> The best games are written for Windows.

>>

>> There are Halo parties happening at the local computer stores, free

>> food soda etc

>>

>> Not a sign of Linux anywhere..........

>

> Somehow I think we'll survive.

>

I think I can manage without jelly and ice-cream parties, even if they

do have pop as well.

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