Guest My News Servers Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 I have set aside my old computer while working up a new one. Now that the new one is smooth, I decided to move my old one upstairs and add a pci wireless card(old 400mhz desktop we're talking about here) Installing the pci wireless card was difficult, space constraints, etc. Long story short, I had to remove my graphics pci card from the slot next door. (its a taller card and easier to install) So, the graphics card came out, the wireless went in next door slot and reinstalled the graphics card. So far, so good. I was anxious to see what I had and this was my undoing. I hooked up everything but the monitor power cord and the keyboard. Then I plugged in the computer to an outlet. I had forgotten that doing this powers up the computer! Then I made another obvious blunder....plugging in the monitor power cord while the computer was powering up?? or was this something I should have been able to get away with??? Anyways, I have nothing on the monitor screen. I have powered down and back several times, trying to get into 'safe mode'...is this possible even under these circumstances? My next question, what happens if I power down, stick in my original and genuine XP install disk, and boot up? Since this is going to be more or less an experimental setup anyway, I really don't care if I lose anything already on the hard drive. Best suggestions appreciated. I do know a bit more about computers than this short note suggests, still, I can use a hand here. Thanks! Thomas Byers senortout@sbcglobal.net
Guest Unknown Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: hardware problem I know of no computer that powers up when being plugged in. Power supplies are of switch mode design and need a start pulse to start up. (Power on button). Could you elaborate so I/we may help you? "My News Servers" <senortout@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:QBSKi.9272$JD.2728@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... >I have set aside my old computer while working up a new one. Now that the >new one is smooth, I decided to move my old one upstairs and add a pci >wireless card(old 400mhz desktop we're talking about here) > > Installing the pci wireless card was difficult, space constraints, etc. > Long story short, I had to remove my graphics pci card from the slot next > door. (its a taller card and easier to install) So, the graphics card > came out, the wireless went in next door slot and reinstalled the graphics > card. So far, so good. > > I was anxious to see what I had and this was my undoing. I hooked up > everything but the monitor power cord and the keyboard. Then I plugged in > the computer to an outlet. I had forgotten that doing this powers up the > computer! > > Then I made another obvious blunder....plugging in the monitor power cord > while the computer was powering up?? or was this something I should have > been able to get away with??? > > Anyways, I have nothing on the monitor screen. I have powered down and > back several times, trying to get into 'safe mode'...is this possible even > under these circumstances? > > My next question, what happens if I power down, stick in my original and > genuine XP install disk, and boot up? Since this is going to be more or > less an experimental setup anyway, I really don't care if I lose anything > already on the hard drive. > > Best suggestions appreciated. I do know a bit more about computers than > this short note suggests, still, I can use a hand here. > > Thanks! > Thomas Byers > senortout@sbcglobal.net
Guest Sinner Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: hardware problem "My News Servers" <senortout@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:QBSKi.9272$JD.2728@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... >I have set aside my old computer while working up a new one. Now that the >new one is smooth, I decided to move my old one upstairs and add a pci >wireless card(old 400mhz desktop we're talking about here) > > Installing the pci wireless card was difficult, space constraints, etc. > Long story short, I had to remove my graphics pci card from the slot next > door. (its a taller card and easier to install) So, the graphics card > came out, the wireless went in next door slot and reinstalled the graphics > card. So far, so good. > > I was anxious to see what I had and this was my undoing. I hooked up > everything but the monitor power cord and the keyboard. Then I plugged in > the computer to an outlet. I had forgotten that doing this powers up the > computer! > > Then I made another obvious blunder....plugging in the monitor power cord > while the computer was powering up?? or was this something I should have > been able to get away with??? > > Anyways, I have nothing on the monitor screen. I have powered down and > back several times, trying to get into 'safe mode'...is this possible even > under these circumstances? > I did have an old monitor, can't remember brand or model, that having suffered a power loss, needed to have one of the menu buttons cycled to get anything onscreen. I am not referring to the Power button on the monitor. With a "Black" screen, it doesn't make any difference what mode you boot into. If you get nothing during POST, it may require swapping out hardware to fix.
Guest My News Servers Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: hardware problem Please, if you know how to help, get past the fact that plugging the computer into the power supplies starts the boot cycle. Of course, it doesn't seem normal, but this Compaq(model 5140) has always done so. My fault for not remembering this. Lets go on.... Tom "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message news:tISKi.1711$P21.173@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... >I know of no computer that powers up when being plugged in. Power supplies >are of > switch mode design and need a start pulse to start up. (Power on button). > Could you elaborate so I/we may help you? > "My News Servers" <senortout@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:QBSKi.9272$JD.2728@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... >>I have set aside my old computer while working up a new one. Now that the >>new one is smooth, I decided to move my old one upstairs and add a pci >>wireless card(old 400mhz desktop we're talking about here) >> >> Installing the pci wireless card was difficult, space constraints, etc. >> Long story short, I had to remove my graphics pci card from the slot next >> door. (its a taller card and easier to install) So, the graphics card >> came out, the wireless went in next door slot and reinstalled the >> graphics card. So far, so good. >> >> I was anxious to see what I had and this was my undoing. I hooked up >> everything but the monitor power cord and the keyboard. Then I plugged >> in the computer to an outlet. I had forgotten that doing this powers up >> the computer! >> >> Then I made another obvious blunder....plugging in the monitor power cord >> while the computer was powering up?? or was this something I should have >> been able to get away with??? >> >> Anyways, I have nothing on the monitor screen. I have powered down and >> back several times, trying to get into 'safe mode'...is this possible >> even under these circumstances? >> >> My next question, what happens if I power down, stick in my original and >> genuine XP install disk, and boot up? Since this is going to be more or >> less an experimental setup anyway, I really don't care if I lose anything >> already on the hard drive. >> >> Best suggestions appreciated. I do know a bit more about computers than >> this short note suggests, still, I can use a hand here. >> >> Thanks! >> Thomas Byers >> senortout@sbcglobal.net > >
Guest Bob I Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: hardware problem Please look at the "AC Recovery" setting in the BIOS. OFF, ON and Last. Determines what will happen when AC power is restored. Unknown wrote: > I know of no computer that powers up when being plugged in. Power supplies > are of > switch mode design and need a start pulse to start up. (Power on button). > Could you elaborate so I/we may help you? > "My News Servers" <senortout@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:QBSKi.9272$JD.2728@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... > >>I have set aside my old computer while working up a new one. Now that the >>new one is smooth, I decided to move my old one upstairs and add a pci >>wireless card(old 400mhz desktop we're talking about here) >> >>Installing the pci wireless card was difficult, space constraints, etc. >>Long story short, I had to remove my graphics pci card from the slot next >>door. (its a taller card and easier to install) So, the graphics card >>came out, the wireless went in next door slot and reinstalled the graphics >>card. So far, so good. >> >>I was anxious to see what I had and this was my undoing. I hooked up >>everything but the monitor power cord and the keyboard. Then I plugged in >>the computer to an outlet. I had forgotten that doing this powers up the >>computer! >> >>Then I made another obvious blunder....plugging in the monitor power cord >>while the computer was powering up?? or was this something I should have >>been able to get away with??? >> >>Anyways, I have nothing on the monitor screen. I have powered down and >>back several times, trying to get into 'safe mode'...is this possible even >>under these circumstances? >> >>My next question, what happens if I power down, stick in my original and >>genuine XP install disk, and boot up? Since this is going to be more or >>less an experimental setup anyway, I really don't care if I lose anything >>already on the hard drive. >> >>Best suggestions appreciated. I do know a bit more about computers than >>this short note suggests, still, I can use a hand here. >> >>Thanks! >>Thomas Byers >>senortout@sbcglobal.net > > >
Guest Bob I Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: hardware problem I would suspect the issue lies with the video card move. Bad slot perhaps, not fully seated, possible damage during swap, are a few possibilities. My News Servers wrote: > I have set aside my old computer while working up a new one. Now that > the new one is smooth, I decided to move my old one upstairs and add a > pci wireless card(old 400mhz desktop we're talking about here) > > Installing the pci wireless card was difficult, space constraints, etc. > Long story short, I had to remove my graphics pci card from the slot > next door. (its a taller card and easier to install) So, the graphics > card came out, the wireless went in next door slot and reinstalled the > graphics card. So far, so good. > > I was anxious to see what I had and this was my undoing. I hooked up > everything but the monitor power cord and the keyboard. Then I plugged > in the computer to an outlet. I had forgotten that doing this powers up > the computer! > > Then I made another obvious blunder....plugging in the monitor power > cord while the computer was powering up?? or was this something I should > have been able to get away with??? > > Anyways, I have nothing on the monitor screen. I have powered down and > back several times, trying to get into 'safe mode'...is this possible > even under these circumstances? > > My next question, what happens if I power down, stick in my original and > genuine XP install disk, and boot up? Since this is going to be more or > less an experimental setup anyway, I really don't care if I lose > anything already on the hard drive. > > Best suggestions appreciated. I do know a bit more about computers than > this short note suggests, still, I can use a hand here. > > Thanks! > Thomas Byers > senortout@sbcglobal.net
Guest Unknown Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: hardware problem Unfortunately every system/board manufacturer has a different BIOS. "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:eaIm8yTAIHA.5328@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Please look at the "AC Recovery" setting in the BIOS. OFF, ON and Last. > Determines what will happen when AC power is restored. > > Unknown wrote: >> I know of no computer that powers up when being plugged in. Power >> supplies are of >> switch mode design and need a start pulse to start up. (Power on button). >> Could you elaborate so I/we may help you? >> "My News Servers" <senortout@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> news:QBSKi.9272$JD.2728@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... >> >>>I have set aside my old computer while working up a new one. Now that >>>the new one is smooth, I decided to move my old one upstairs and add a >>>pci wireless card(old 400mhz desktop we're talking about here) >>> >>>Installing the pci wireless card was difficult, space constraints, etc. >>>Long story short, I had to remove my graphics pci card from the slot next >>>door. (its a taller card and easier to install) So, the graphics card >>>came out, the wireless went in next door slot and reinstalled the >>>graphics card. So far, so good. >>> >>>I was anxious to see what I had and this was my undoing. I hooked up >>>everything but the monitor power cord and the keyboard. Then I plugged >>>in the computer to an outlet. I had forgotten that doing this powers up >>>the computer! >>> >>>Then I made another obvious blunder....plugging in the monitor power cord >>>while the computer was powering up?? or was this something I should have >>>been able to get away with??? >>> >>>Anyways, I have nothing on the monitor screen. I have powered down and >>>back several times, trying to get into 'safe mode'...is this possible >>>even under these circumstances? >>> >>>My next question, what happens if I power down, stick in my original and >>>genuine XP install disk, and boot up? Since this is going to be more or >>>less an experimental setup anyway, I really don't care if I lose anything >>>already on the hard drive. >>> >>>Best suggestions appreciated. I do know a bit more about computers than >>>this short note suggests, still, I can use a hand here. >>> >>>Thanks! >>>Thomas Byers >>>senortout@sbcglobal.net >> >> >> >
Guest Bob I Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: hardware problem The ones where you set AC Recovery to "ON", are intended to start up when AC power is restored. Unknown wrote: > Unfortunately every system/board manufacturer has a different BIOS. > "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:eaIm8yTAIHA.5328@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >>Please look at the "AC Recovery" setting in the BIOS. OFF, ON and Last. >>Determines what will happen when AC power is restored. >> >>Unknown wrote: >> >>>I know of no computer that powers up when being plugged in. Power >>>supplies are of >>>switch mode design and need a start pulse to start up. (Power on button). >>>Could you elaborate so I/we may help you? >>>"My News Servers" <senortout@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>news:QBSKi.9272$JD.2728@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... >>> >>> >>>>I have set aside my old computer while working up a new one. Now that >>>>the new one is smooth, I decided to move my old one upstairs and add a >>>>pci wireless card(old 400mhz desktop we're talking about here) >>>> >>>>Installing the pci wireless card was difficult, space constraints, etc. >>>>Long story short, I had to remove my graphics pci card from the slot next >>>>door. (its a taller card and easier to install) So, the graphics card >>>>came out, the wireless went in next door slot and reinstalled the >>>>graphics card. So far, so good. >>>> >>>>I was anxious to see what I had and this was my undoing. I hooked up >>>>everything but the monitor power cord and the keyboard. Then I plugged >>>>in the computer to an outlet. I had forgotten that doing this powers up >>>>the computer! >>>> >>>>Then I made another obvious blunder....plugging in the monitor power cord >>>>while the computer was powering up?? or was this something I should have >>>>been able to get away with??? >>>> >>>>Anyways, I have nothing on the monitor screen. I have powered down and >>>>back several times, trying to get into 'safe mode'...is this possible >>>>even under these circumstances? >>>> >>>>My next question, what happens if I power down, stick in my original and >>>>genuine XP install disk, and boot up? Since this is going to be more or >>>>less an experimental setup anyway, I really don't care if I lose anything >>>>already on the hard drive. >>>> >>>>Best suggestions appreciated. I do know a bit more about computers than >>>>this short note suggests, still, I can use a hand here. >>>> >>>>Thanks! >>>>Thomas Byers >>>>senortout@sbcglobal.net >>> >>> >>> > >
Guest Lil' Dave Posted September 28, 2007 Posted September 28, 2007 Re: hardware problem Okay, you snuck around the normal way to turn on the PC. Most bios will lock with a failure if the keyboard is not connected. But, you should see this on the monitor screen during the bios routine. As someone else said, sounds like the video card ain't puttin' out due to the slot you moved it in. Obviously, not an AGP or PCI express slot. Most older PCs and recent ones as well only designate specific hardware irqs to a given slot. Most video cards require a hardware irq specific for itself, no sharing, on old PCs. Best this way even now. Has nothing to do with XP regarding this matter. Dave "My News Servers" <senortout@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:QBSKi.9272$JD.2728@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... >I have set aside my old computer while working up a new one. Now that the >new one is smooth, I decided to move my old one upstairs and add a pci >wireless card(old 400mhz desktop we're talking about here) > > Installing the pci wireless card was difficult, space constraints, etc. > Long story short, I had to remove my graphics pci card from the slot next > door. (its a taller card and easier to install) So, the graphics card > came out, the wireless went in next door slot and reinstalled the graphics > card. So far, so good. > > I was anxious to see what I had and this was my undoing. I hooked up > everything but the monitor power cord and the keyboard. Then I plugged in > the computer to an outlet. I had forgotten that doing this powers up the > computer! > > Then I made another obvious blunder....plugging in the monitor power cord > while the computer was powering up?? or was this something I should have > been able to get away with??? > > Anyways, I have nothing on the monitor screen. I have powered down and > back several times, trying to get into 'safe mode'...is this possible even > under these circumstances? > > My next question, what happens if I power down, stick in my original and > genuine XP install disk, and boot up? Since this is going to be more or > less an experimental setup anyway, I really don't care if I lose anything > already on the hard drive. > > Best suggestions appreciated. I do know a bit more about computers than > this short note suggests, still, I can use a hand here. > > Thanks! > Thomas Byers > senortout@sbcglobal.net
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