Guest sfriedman Posted October 1, 2007 Posted October 1, 2007 I currently use 3 removable drives on my system for specific applications. One is for primary use, another for software development purposes and a third for games. Each one only runs on one machine. Recently though I've had instances where I've needed to re-activate my copy of Windows and have been directed to call Miscrosft since it told me I could not do it over the internet. Each time I responded that it is used on only one machine and have been given a new code. I am concerned that one time they will NOT give me a new activiation code. I want to be very clear on the policy especially since I now have two drives that have different activation codes on them than the one from the original disk since the calls to re-activate these drives resulted in this. I am also concernd if I have to do a reinstall or substantial repair of my OS whether this will trigger another re-activation message. Could you let me know where Microsoft stands on this and whether I am at risk for one day finding I cannot activate one of my removable disks on my system?
Guest DL Posted October 1, 2007 Posted October 1, 2007 Re: Activation issues with removable hard drives redeaux Do these removable drives contain the o/s? "sfriedman" <sfriedman39@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1191263517.276447.237360@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... >I currently use 3 removable drives on my system for specific > applications. One is for primary use, another for software development > purposes and a third for games. Each one only runs on one machine. > Recently though I've had instances where I've needed to re-activate my > copy of Windows and have been directed to call Miscrosft since it told > me I could not do it over the internet. Each time I responded that it > is used on only one machine and have been given a new code. I am > concerned that one time they will NOT give me a new activiation code. > I want to be very clear on the policy especially since I now have two > drives that have different activation codes on them than the one from > the original disk since the calls to re-activate these drives resulted > in this. I am also concernd if I have to do a reinstall or substantial > repair of my OS whether this will trigger another re-activation > message. Could you let me know where Microsoft stands on this and > whether I am at risk for one day finding I cannot activate one of my > removable disks on my system? >
Guest Lil' Dave Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Re: Activation issues with removable hard drives redeaux "sfriedman" <sfriedman39@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1191263517.276447.237360@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... >I currently use 3 removable drives on my system for specific > applications. One is for primary use, another for software development > purposes and a third for games. Each one only runs on one machine. > Recently though I've had instances where I've needed to re-activate my > copy of Windows and have been directed to call Miscrosft since it told > me I could not do it over the internet. Each time I responded that it > is used on only one machine and have been given a new code. I am > concerned that one time they will NOT give me a new activiation code. > I want to be very clear on the policy especially since I now have two > drives that have different activation codes on them than the one from > the original disk since the calls to re-activate these drives resulted > in this. I am also concernd if I have to do a reinstall or substantial > repair of my OS whether this will trigger another re-activation > message. Could you let me know where Microsoft stands on this and > whether I am at risk for one day finding I cannot activate one of my > removable disks on my system? > Assuming all 3 removable hard drives are using the same bus system for connection on the same PC. Only one is ever connected at any given time. All are jumpered identically. And, you restored an image of one for the remaining 2 hard drives after XP install and activation. And, none of the removable hard drives are used to boot XP on another PC. Don't see why there would be a problem at all. Any digression could have ramifications. Dave
Guest sfriedman Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Re: Activation issues with removable hard drives redeaux On Oct 2, 8:34 am, "Lil' Dave" <spamyours...@virus.net> wrote: > "sfriedman" <sfriedma...@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:1191263517.276447.237360@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > >I currently use 3 removable drives on my system for specific > > applications. One is for primary use, another for software development > > purposes and a third for games. Each one only runs on one machine. > > Recently though I've had instances where I've needed to re-activate my > > copy of Windows and have been directed to call Miscrosft since it told > > me I could not do it over the internet. Each time I responded that it > > is used on only one machine and have been given a new code. I am > > concerned that one time they will NOT give me a new activiation code. > > I want to be very clear on the policy especially since I now have two > > drives that have different activation codes on them than the one from > > the original disk since the calls to re-activate these drives resulted > > in this. I am also concernd if I have to do a reinstall or substantial > > repair of my OS whether this will trigger another re-activation > > message. Could you let me know where Microsoft stands on this and > > whether I am at risk for one day finding I cannot activate one of my > > removable disks on my system? > > Assuming all 3 removable hard drives are using the same bus system for > connection on the same PC. Only one is ever connected at any given time. > All are jumpered identically. And, you restored an image of one for the > remaining 2 hard drives after XP install and activation. And, none of the > removable hard drives are used to boot XP on another PC. Don't see why > there would be a problem at all. Any digression could have ramifications. > Dave- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Each Hard Drive contain the Windows XP Pro Operating system. It is not an auxillary drive. This is done so that I can weed out potential hardware problems, and prevent cross contamination on applications.
Guest smlunatick Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Re: Activation issues with removable hard drives redeaux On Oct 2, 11:05 am, sfriedman <sfriedma...@comcast.net> wrote: > On Oct 2, 8:34 am, "Lil' Dave" <spamyours...@virus.net> wrote: > > > > > > > "sfriedman" <sfriedma...@comcast.net> wrote in message > > >news:1191263517.276447.237360@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... > > > >I currently use 3 removable drives on my system for specific > > > applications. One is for primary use, another for software development > > > purposes and a third for games. Each one only runs on one machine. > > > Recently though I've had instances where I've needed to re-activate my > > > copy of Windows and have been directed to call Miscrosft since it told > > > me I could not do it over the internet. Each time I responded that it > > > is used on only one machine and have been given a new code. I am > > > concerned that one time they will NOT give me a new activiation code. > > > I want to be very clear on the policy especially since I now have two > > > drives that have different activation codes on them than the one from > > > the original disk since the calls to re-activate these drives resulted > > > in this. I am also concernd if I have to do a reinstall or substantial > > > repair of my OS whether this will trigger another re-activation > > > message. Could you let me know where Microsoft stands on this and > > > whether I am at risk for one day finding I cannot activate one of my > > > removable disks on my system? > > > Assuming all 3 removable hard drives are using the same bus system for > > connection on the same PC. Only one is ever connected at any given time. > > All are jumpered identically. And, you restored an image of one for the > > remaining 2 hard drives after XP install and activation. And, none of the > > removable hard drives are used to boot XP on another PC. Don't see why > > there would be a problem at all. Any digression could have ramifications. > > Dave- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Each Hard Drive contain the Windows XP Pro Operating system. It is not > an auxillary drive. This is done so that I can weed out potential > hardware problems, and prevent cross contamination on applications.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - The "three" hard drive OS versions are always re-checking the actiation status when the drives are change. Changing the hard drives, the activation will be checked each time and depending on the version (Retail or OEM) you will have a problem with the activation system. OEM versions can only be activated 'once' successfully for the Internet and any activations after this must be done by phone. Retail activations can successfully be done every 120 day (???) over the Internet. Any activation between the 120 days must be done by the phone. Microsoft had never considered the fact that people may want to "juggle" hard drives when the Product Activation was "developed."
Guest Alias Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Re: Activation issues with removable hard drives redeaux smlunatick wrote: > On Oct 2, 11:05 am, sfriedman <sfriedma...@comcast.net> wrote: >> On Oct 2, 8:34 am, "Lil' Dave" <spamyours...@virus.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> "sfriedman" <sfriedma...@comcast.net> wrote in message >>> news:1191263517.276447.237360@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... >>>> I currently use 3 removable drives on my system for specific >>>> applications. One is for primary use, another for software development >>>> purposes and a third for games. Each one only runs on one machine. >>>> Recently though I've had instances where I've needed to re-activate my >>>> copy of Windows and have been directed to call Miscrosft since it told >>>> me I could not do it over the internet. Each time I responded that it >>>> is used on only one machine and have been given a new code. I am >>>> concerned that one time they will NOT give me a new activiation code. >>>> I want to be very clear on the policy especially since I now have two >>>> drives that have different activation codes on them than the one from >>>> the original disk since the calls to re-activate these drives resulted >>>> in this. I am also concernd if I have to do a reinstall or substantial >>>> repair of my OS whether this will trigger another re-activation >>>> message. Could you let me know where Microsoft stands on this and >>>> whether I am at risk for one day finding I cannot activate one of my >>>> removable disks on my system? >>> Assuming all 3 removable hard drives are using the same bus system for >>> connection on the same PC. Only one is ever connected at any given time. >>> All are jumpered identically. And, you restored an image of one for the >>> remaining 2 hard drives after XP install and activation. And, none of the >>> removable hard drives are used to boot XP on another PC. Don't see why >>> there would be a problem at all. Any digression could have ramifications. >>> Dave- Hide quoted text - >>> - Show quoted text - >> Each Hard Drive contain the Windows XP Pro Operating system. It is not >> an auxillary drive. This is done so that I can weed out potential >> hardware problems, and prevent cross contamination on applications.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > The "three" hard drive OS versions are always re-checking the > actiation status when the drives are change. Changing the hard drives, > the activation will be checked each time and depending on the version > (Retail or OEM) you will have a problem with the activation system. > OEM versions can only be activated 'once' successfully for the > Internet and any activations after this must be done by phone. False, false, false! If you reinstall on the same computer with no hardware changes, you can activate on line as many times as your little heart desires. I know because I've done it many times and recently. > Retail > activations can successfully be done every 120 day (???) over the > Internet. Any activation between the 120 days must be done by the > phone. FALSE! See above! If 120 days have passed since the last activation, it starts over hardware-wise for BOTH retail and OEM. In fact, if it's been over 120 days, you can move an OEM version to another computer and still activate on line. Microsoft had never considered the fact that people may want > to "juggle" hard drives when the Product Activation was "developed." Where do you get this false information? As for the OP's question -- which you didn't address -- I would think that once he or she will eventually be asked to reactivate when changing the drives reaches 10 points, one point per hard drive per change. -- Alias To email me, remove shoes
Guest Lil' Dave Posted October 3, 2007 Posted October 3, 2007 Re: Activation issues with removable hard drives redeaux "sfriedman" <sfriedman39@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1191337527.982971.147290@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com... > On Oct 2, 8:34 am, "Lil' Dave" <spamyours...@virus.net> wrote: >> "sfriedman" <sfriedma...@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> news:1191263517.276447.237360@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> >I currently use 3 removable drives on my system for specific >> > applications. One is for primary use, another for software development >> > purposes and a third for games. Each one only runs on one machine. >> > Recently though I've had instances where I've needed to re-activate my >> > copy of Windows and have been directed to call Miscrosft since it told >> > me I could not do it over the internet. Each time I responded that it >> > is used on only one machine and have been given a new code. I am >> > concerned that one time they will NOT give me a new activiation code. >> > I want to be very clear on the policy especially since I now have two >> > drives that have different activation codes on them than the one from >> > the original disk since the calls to re-activate these drives resulted >> > in this. I am also concernd if I have to do a reinstall or substantial >> > repair of my OS whether this will trigger another re-activation >> > message. Could you let me know where Microsoft stands on this and >> > whether I am at risk for one day finding I cannot activate one of my >> > removable disks on my system? >> >> Assuming all 3 removable hard drives are using the same bus system for >> connection on the same PC. Only one is ever connected at any given time. >> All are jumpered identically. And, you restored an image of one for the >> remaining 2 hard drives after XP install and activation. And, none of >> the >> removable hard drives are used to boot XP on another PC. Don't see why >> there would be a problem at all. Any digression could have >> ramifications. >> Dave- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Each Hard Drive contain the Windows XP Pro Operating system. It is not Well, I at least expected all to have the same version of XP... You never indicate whether any of the info I provided corroborates with your stuff. > an auxillary drive. This is done so that I can weed out potential > hardware problems, and prevent cross contamination on applications. > Though not technically MS legal, you can do similar with a 3rd party boot manager and 3 XPs on same hard drive. 2 always hidden from one. Amounts to the same thing... Dave
Guest Lil' Dave Posted October 3, 2007 Posted October 3, 2007 Re: Activation issues with removable hard drives redeaux "smlunatick" <yveslec@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1191338845.362764.259690@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > On Oct 2, 11:05 am, sfriedman <sfriedma...@comcast.net> wrote: >> On Oct 2, 8:34 am, "Lil' Dave" <spamyours...@virus.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > "sfriedman" <sfriedma...@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> >news:1191263517.276447.237360@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... >> >> > >I currently use 3 removable drives on my system for specific >> > > applications. One is for primary use, another for software >> > > development >> > > purposes and a third for games. Each one only runs on one machine. >> > > Recently though I've had instances where I've needed to re-activate >> > > my >> > > copy of Windows and have been directed to call Miscrosft since it >> > > told >> > > me I could not do it over the internet. Each time I responded that it >> > > is used on only one machine and have been given a new code. I am >> > > concerned that one time they will NOT give me a new activiation code. >> > > I want to be very clear on the policy especially since I now have two >> > > drives that have different activation codes on them than the one from >> > > the original disk since the calls to re-activate these drives >> > > resulted >> > > in this. I am also concernd if I have to do a reinstall or >> > > substantial >> > > repair of my OS whether this will trigger another re-activation >> > > message. Could you let me know where Microsoft stands on this and >> > > whether I am at risk for one day finding I cannot activate one of my >> > > removable disks on my system? >> >> > Assuming all 3 removable hard drives are using the same bus system for >> > connection on the same PC. Only one is ever connected at any given >> > time. >> > All are jumpered identically. And, you restored an image of one for the >> > remaining 2 hard drives after XP install and activation. And, none of >> > the >> > removable hard drives are used to boot XP on another PC. Don't see why >> > there would be a problem at all. Any digression could have >> > ramifications. >> > Dave- Hide quoted text - >> >> > - Show quoted text - >> >> Each Hard Drive contain the Windows XP Pro Operating system. It is not >> an auxillary drive. This is done so that I can weed out potential >> hardware problems, and prevent cross contamination on applications.- Hide >> quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > The "three" hard drive OS versions are always re-checking the > actiation status when the drives are change. Changing the hard drives, > the activation will be checked each time and depending on the version > (Retail or OEM) you will have a problem with the activation system. > OEM versions can only be activated 'once' successfully for the > Internet and any activations after this must be done by phone. Retail > activations can successfully be done every 120 day (???) over the > Internet. Any activation between the 120 days must be done by the > phone. Microsoft had never considered the fact that people may want > to "juggle" hard drives when the Product Activation was "developed." > As Alias indicated... OEM generic can be activated numerous times over the internet. Not locked to one activation this method. There is the 120 day thing as well. Found no difference regarding OEM generic and retail as far as this goes. Dave
Guest smlunatick Posted October 3, 2007 Posted October 3, 2007 Re: Activation issues with removable hard drives redeaux On Oct 2, 11:32 pm, "Lil' Dave" <spamyours...@virus.net> wrote: > "smlunatick" <yves...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1191338845.362764.259690@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Oct 2, 11:05 am, sfriedman <sfriedma...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> On Oct 2, 8:34 am, "Lil' Dave" <spamyours...@virus.net> wrote: > > >> > "sfriedman" <sfriedma...@comcast.net> wrote in message > > >> >news:1191263517.276447.237360@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... > > >> > >I currently use 3 removable drives on my system for specific > >> > > applications. One is for primary use, another for software > >> > > development > >> > > purposes and a third for games. Each one only runs on one machine. > >> > > Recently though I've had instances where I've needed to re-activate > >> > > my > >> > > copy of Windows and have been directed to call Miscrosft since it > >> > > told > >> > > me I could not do it over the internet. Each time I responded that it > >> > > is used on only one machine and have been given a new code. I am > >> > > concerned that one time they will NOT give me a new activiation code. > >> > > I want to be very clear on the policy especially since I now have two > >> > > drives that have different activation codes on them than the one from > >> > > the original disk since the calls to re-activate these drives > >> > > resulted > >> > > in this. I am also concernd if I have to do a reinstall or > >> > > substantial > >> > > repair of my OS whether this will trigger another re-activation > >> > > message. Could you let me know where Microsoft stands on this and > >> > > whether I am at risk for one day finding I cannot activate one of my > >> > > removable disks on my system? > > >> > Assuming all 3 removable hard drives are using the same bus system for > >> > connection on the same PC. Only one is ever connected at any given > >> > time. > >> > All are jumpered identically. And, you restored an image of one for the > >> > remaining 2 hard drives after XP install and activation. And, none of > >> > the > >> > removable hard drives are used to boot XP on another PC. Don't see why > >> > there would be a problem at all. Any digression could have > >> > ramifications. > >> > Dave- Hide quoted text - > > >> > - Show quoted text - > > >> Each Hard Drive contain the Windows XP Pro Operating system. It is not > >> an auxillary drive. This is done so that I can weed out potential > >> hardware problems, and prevent cross contamination on applications.- Hide > >> quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > The "three" hard drive OS versions are always re-checking the > > actiation status when the drives are change. Changing the hard drives, > > the activation will be checked each time and depending on the version > > (Retail or OEM) you will have a problem with the activation system. > > OEM versions can only be activated 'once' successfully for the > > Internet and any activations after this must be done by phone. Retail > > activations can successfully be done every 120 day (???) over the > > Internet. Any activation between the 120 days must be done by the > > phone. Microsoft had never considered the fact that people may want > > to "juggle" hard drives when the Product Activation was "developed." > > As Alias indicated... > > OEM generic can be activated numerous times over the internet. Not locked > to one activation this method. There is the 120 day thing as well. Found > no difference regarding OEM generic and retail as far as this goes. > > Dave- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - My experience with OEM versions is that after the first activations, any additional activations, even without hardware changes, are refused by the Internet. Microsoft has previously stated before that OEM activations are being "forced" to be done over the telephone because of the "eBay" sales of "branded" OEM versions that were sold without the "corresponding" hardware.
Guest sfriedman Posted October 3, 2007 Posted October 3, 2007 Re: Activation issues with removable hard drives redeaux The Windows XP Pro version I have is not an OEM but a bonded retail upgrade version of the OS. From what I gather from this thread I can re-validate over the Internet only once every 120 days. That's probably OK since I don't use the other's that often, but when I do, I really hate to have to go through the hassle of phoning Microsoft to re-activate. The removable drive system has saved my bacon numerous times - especially when trying to diagnose hardware vs. software problems, and driver problems. I'd be loathe to go back to one drive no matter home many bootable partitions.
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