Guest RealGomer Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 I read the messages for slow boot. I was was going to try each suggested solution in turn, starting with disabling the integrated (Marvell) LAN controller in BIOS. Well, Windows decided I had made substantial changes to my PC and is demanding reactivation within three days. To add insult to injury, I can't try anything else because I can't get passed the bloody welcome screen. I do here the C drive working, but not constantly. It "clicks" for a second or two, then is silent, clicks, silent, and so on. I tried safe mode, but that wasn't a whole lot better. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -- I know enuff to be dangerous. Für Elise - Support the Cancer & Heart Foundations
Guest Bob I Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Re: one hour plus boot The clicks don't sound good, you don't suppose the long boot time is Windows trying to make a failing hard drive work? RealGomer wrote: > I read the messages for slow boot. I was was going to try each suggested > solution in turn, starting with disabling the integrated (Marvell) LAN > controller in BIOS. Well, Windows decided I had made substantial changes to > my PC and is demanding reactivation within three days. To add insult to > injury, I can't try anything else because I can't get passed the bloody > welcome screen. I do here the C drive working, but not constantly. It > "clicks" for a second or two, then is silent, clicks, silent, and so on. I > tried safe mode, but that wasn't a whole lot better. > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Guest RealGomer Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 RE: one hour plus boot Quick update. Safe Mode does allow me to start Windows, along with the stupid nag to reactivate. I used Disk cleanup to whack unused files, programs and defrag the drive. I'll run chkdsk c: /f /r after the defrag on reboot. The problems just started yesterday. Maybe this is why my DSL kept puking out on LAN. I'm running XP Pro SP2. -- I know enuff to be dangerous. Für Elise - Support the Cancer & Heart Foundations "RealGomer" wrote: > I read the messages for slow boot. I was was going to try each suggested > solution in turn, starting with disabling the integrated (Marvell) LAN > controller in BIOS. Well, Windows decided I had made substantial changes to > my PC and is demanding reactivation within three days. To add insult to > injury, I can't try anything else because I can't get passed the bloody > welcome screen. I do here the C drive working, but not constantly. It > "clicks" for a second or two, then is silent, clicks, silent, and so on. I > tried safe mode, but that wasn't a whole lot better. > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > -- > I know enuff to be dangerous. > Für Elise - Support the Cancer & Heart Foundations
Guest RealGomer Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 RE: one hour plus boot Quick Update. I got into Windows using Safe Mode. I think I have boot logging turned on. (Now all I have to do is find the log.) I used disk cleanup to whack files and programs I don't need or use. Some can't be whacked in Safe Mode. Must be another feature. I'm running defrag now. Spybot found no problems. Once that's all done, I'm going to run chkdsk /r/f on reboot. The Marvell LAN controller seems to be working fine, even if Windows thinks I've substantially changed my PC. Microsoft is more paranoid than Washington. -- I know enuff to be dangerous. Für Elise - Support the Cancer & Heart Foundations "RealGomer" wrote: > I read the messages for slow boot. I was was going to try each suggested > solution in turn, starting with disabling the integrated (Marvell) LAN > controller in BIOS. Well, Windows decided I had made substantial changes to > my PC and is demanding reactivation within three days. To add insult to > injury, I can't try anything else because I can't get passed the bloody > welcome screen. I do here the C drive working, but not constantly. It > "clicks" for a second or two, then is silent, clicks, silent, and so on. I > tried safe mode, but that wasn't a whole lot better. > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > -- > I know enuff to be dangerous. > Für Elise - Support the Cancer & Heart Foundations
Guest RealGomer Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 RE: one hour plus boot Sorry about the doublke post. IE7 locked on my laptop. Chkdsk will not run on reboot. Will not run in safe mode claiming it cannot lock the disk because it's in use by another service. Will not run at C: prompt. Cannot install third party drive check (Seagate / Maxtor) although already installed Western Digital software says SMART says drive is okay. -- I know enuff to be dangerous. Für Elise - Support the Cancer & Heart Foundations "RealGomer" wrote: > Quick Update. I got into Windows using Safe Mode. I think I have boot logging > turned on. (Now all I have to do is find the log.) I used disk cleanup to > whack files and programs I don't need or use. Some can't be whacked in Safe > Mode. Must be another feature. I'm running defrag now. Spybot found no > problems. > > Once that's all done, I'm going to run chkdsk /r/f on reboot. The Marvell > LAN controller seems to be working fine, even if Windows thinks I've > substantially changed my PC. Microsoft is more paranoid than Washington. > -- > I know enuff to be dangerous. > Für Elise - Support the Cancer & Heart Foundations > > > "RealGomer" wrote: > > > I read the messages for slow boot. I was was going to try each suggested > > solution in turn, starting with disabling the integrated (Marvell) LAN > > controller in BIOS. Well, Windows decided I had made substantial changes to > > my PC and is demanding reactivation within three days. To add insult to > > injury, I can't try anything else because I can't get passed the bloody > > welcome screen. I do here the C drive working, but not constantly. It > > "clicks" for a second or two, then is silent, clicks, silent, and so on. I > > tried safe mode, but that wasn't a whole lot better. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > -- > > I know enuff to be dangerous. > > Für Elise - Support the Cancer & Heart Foundations
Guest Gerry Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Re: one hour plus boot Try cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job than Disk CleanUp. http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp http://www.ccleaner.com/ With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also offers backup before removal. When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so that they can easily be re-entered. Leave the Scan for Issues option alone. If chkdsk still doesn't work: Unable to run CHKDSK http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555484 -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RealGomer wrote: > Sorry about the doublke post. IE7 locked on my laptop. > Chkdsk will not run on reboot. Will not run in safe mode claiming it > cannot lock the disk because it's in use by another service. Will not > run at C: prompt. Cannot install third party drive check (Seagate / > Maxtor) although already installed Western Digital software says > SMART says drive is okay. > >> Quick Update. I got into Windows using Safe Mode. I think I have >> boot logging turned on. (Now all I have to do is find the log.) I >> used disk cleanup to whack files and programs I don't need or use. >> Some can't be whacked in Safe Mode. Must be another feature. I'm >> running defrag now. Spybot found no problems. >> >> Once that's all done, I'm going to run chkdsk /r/f on reboot. The >> Marvell LAN controller seems to be working fine, even if Windows >> thinks I've substantially changed my PC. Microsoft is more paranoid >> than Washington. -- >> I know enuff to be dangerous. >> Für Elise - Support the Cancer & Heart Foundations >> >> >> "RealGomer" wrote: >> >>> I read the messages for slow boot. I was was going to try each >>> suggested solution in turn, starting with disabling the integrated >>> (Marvell) LAN controller in BIOS. Well, Windows decided I had made >>> substantial changes to my PC and is demanding reactivation within >>> three days. To add insult to injury, I can't try anything else >>> because I can't get passed the bloody welcome screen. I do here the >>> C drive working, but not constantly. It "clicks" for a second or >>> two, then is silent, clicks, silent, and so on. I tried safe mode, >>> but that wasn't a whole lot better. >>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >>> -- >>> I know enuff to be dangerous. >>> Für Elise - Support the Cancer & Heart Foundations
Guest RealGomer Posted October 3, 2007 Posted October 3, 2007 Re: one hour plus boot I disabled or et to manual every non-mircosoft service, process, app, etc. chckdsk still says it can't lock the drive. what now? -- I know enuff to be dangerous. Für Elise - Support the Cancer & Heart Foundations "Gerry" wrote: > Try cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job than Disk > CleanUp. > http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp > http://www.ccleaner.com/ > > With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you > should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also > offers backup before removal. > > When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form > History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has > irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's > recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so > that they can easily be re-entered. > > Leave the Scan for Issues option alone. > > If chkdsk still doesn't work: > Unable to run CHKDSK > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555484 > > -- > > > > Hope this helps. > > Gerry > ~~~~ > FCA > Stourport, England > Enquire, plan and execute > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > RealGomer wrote: > > Sorry about the doublke post. IE7 locked on my laptop. > > Chkdsk will not run on reboot. Will not run in safe mode claiming it > > cannot lock the disk because it's in use by another service. Will not > > run at C: prompt. Cannot install third party drive check (Seagate / > > Maxtor) although already installed Western Digital software says > > SMART says drive is okay. > > > >> Quick Update. I got into Windows using Safe Mode. I think I have > >> boot logging turned on. (Now all I have to do is find the log.) I > >> used disk cleanup to whack files and programs I don't need or use. > >> Some can't be whacked in Safe Mode. Must be another feature. I'm > >> running defrag now. Spybot found no problems. > >> > >> Once that's all done, I'm going to run chkdsk /r/f on reboot. The > >> Marvell LAN controller seems to be working fine, even if Windows > >> thinks I've substantially changed my PC. Microsoft is more paranoid > >> than Washington. -- > >> I know enuff to be dangerous. > >> Für Elise - Support the Cancer & Heart Foundations > >> > >> > >> "RealGomer" wrote: > >> > >>> I read the messages for slow boot. I was was going to try each > >>> suggested solution in turn, starting with disabling the integrated > >>> (Marvell) LAN controller in BIOS. Well, Windows decided I had made > >>> substantial changes to my PC and is demanding reactivation within > >>> three days. To add insult to injury, I can't try anything else > >>> because I can't get passed the bloody welcome screen. I do here the > >>> C drive working, but not constantly. It "clicks" for a second or > >>> two, then is silent, clicks, silent, and so on. I tried safe mode, > >>> but that wasn't a whole lot better. > >>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > >>> -- > >>> I know enuff to be dangerous. > >>> Für Elise - Support the Cancer & Heart Foundations > > >
Guest dobey Posted October 3, 2007 Posted October 3, 2007 Re: one hour plus boot "RealGomer" <RealGomer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:507D80B5-A014-409B-A8B0-F3A471FCA88C@microsoft.com... > Sorry about the doublke post. IE7 locked on my laptop. > Chkdsk will not run on reboot. Will not run in safe mode claiming it > cannot > lock the disk because it's in use by another service. Will not run at C: > prompt. Cannot install third party drive check (Seagate / Maxtor) although > already installed Western Digital software says SMART says drive is okay. I don't think SMART is particularly useful. Download bootable disk checking software from seagate, SeaTools for DOS When you disabled your NIC in the BIOS this counts for 3 (?) points on the XP hardware check. I can't recall how many points are needed in order to trigger a reactivation message but an NIC change is a big one. If you've previously added more RAM or different HDD or some other component this could have triggered the change. I don't think re-activating the NIC will undo the activation message. Look at event viewer for entries refering to "disk". > -- > I know enuff to be dangerous. > Für Elise - Support the Cancer & Heart Foundations > > > "RealGomer" wrote: > >> Quick Update. I got into Windows using Safe Mode. I think I have boot >> logging >> turned on. (Now all I have to do is find the log.) I used disk cleanup to >> whack files and programs I don't need or use. Some can't be whacked in >> Safe >> Mode. Must be another feature. I'm running defrag now. Spybot found no >> problems. >> >> Once that's all done, I'm going to run chkdsk /r/f on reboot. The >> Marvell >> LAN controller seems to be working fine, even if Windows thinks I've >> substantially changed my PC. Microsoft is more paranoid than Washington. >> -- >> I know enuff to be dangerous. >> Für Elise - Support the Cancer & Heart Foundations >> >> >> "RealGomer" wrote: >> >> > I read the messages for slow boot. I was was going to try each >> > suggested >> > solution in turn, starting with disabling the integrated (Marvell) LAN >> > controller in BIOS. Well, Windows decided I had made substantial >> > changes to >> > my PC and is demanding reactivation within three days. To add insult to >> > injury, I can't try anything else because I can't get passed the bloody >> > welcome screen. I do here the C drive working, but not constantly. It >> > "clicks" for a second or two, then is silent, clicks, silent, and so >> > on. I >> > tried safe mode, but that wasn't a whole lot better. >> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >> > -- >> > I know enuff to be dangerous. >> > Für Elise - Support the Cancer & Heart Foundations
Guest Gerry Posted October 3, 2007 Posted October 3, 2007 Re: one hour plus boot "I disabled or et to manual every non-mircosoft service, process, app, etc. chckdsk still says it can't lock the drive. what now?" That wasn't a smart thing to do! Why did you do that? Now you need to restore them all to what they were. http://www.theeldergeek.com/services_guide.htm -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RealGomer wrote: > I disabled or et to manual every non-mircosoft service, process, app, > etc. chckdsk still says it can't lock the drive. what now? > >> Try cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job than Disk >> CleanUp. >> http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp >> http://www.ccleaner.com/ >> >> With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you >> should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also >> offers backup before removal. >> >> When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form >> History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one >> has irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's >> recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so >> that they can easily be re-entered. >> >> Leave the Scan for Issues option alone. >> >> If chkdsk still doesn't work: >> Unable to run CHKDSK >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555484 >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Gerry >> ~~~~ >> FCA >> Stourport, England >> Enquire, plan and execute >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> RealGomer wrote: >>> Sorry about the doublke post. IE7 locked on my laptop. >>> Chkdsk will not run on reboot. Will not run in safe mode claiming it >>> cannot lock the disk because it's in use by another service. Will >>> not run at C: prompt. Cannot install third party drive check >>> (Seagate / Maxtor) although already installed Western Digital >>> software says SMART says drive is okay. >>> >>>> Quick Update. I got into Windows using Safe Mode. I think I have >>>> boot logging turned on. (Now all I have to do is find the log.) I >>>> used disk cleanup to whack files and programs I don't need or use. >>>> Some can't be whacked in Safe Mode. Must be another feature. I'm >>>> running defrag now. Spybot found no problems. >>>> >>>> Once that's all done, I'm going to run chkdsk /r/f on reboot. The >>>> Marvell LAN controller seems to be working fine, even if Windows >>>> thinks I've substantially changed my PC. Microsoft is more paranoid >>>> than Washington. -- >>>> I know enuff to be dangerous. >>>> Für Elise - Support the Cancer & Heart Foundations >>>> >>>> >>>> "RealGomer" wrote: >>>> >>>>> I read the messages for slow boot. I was was going to try each >>>>> suggested solution in turn, starting with disabling the integrated >>>>> (Marvell) LAN controller in BIOS. Well, Windows decided I had made >>>>> substantial changes to my PC and is demanding reactivation within >>>>> three days. To add insult to injury, I can't try anything else >>>>> because I can't get passed the bloody welcome screen. I do here >>>>> the C drive working, but not constantly. It "clicks" for a second >>>>> or two, then is silent, clicks, silent, and so on. I tried safe >>>>> mode, but that wasn't a whole lot better. >>>>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >>>>> -- >>>>> I know enuff to be dangerous. >>>>> Für Elise - Support the Cancer & Heart Foundations
Guest Bob I Posted October 3, 2007 Posted October 3, 2007 Re: one hour plus boot There a few softwares that interfere with Safemode and chddsk. 3rd party firewalls, Norton goback and others. Are you running any of those? RealGomer wrote: > Sorry about the doublke post. IE7 locked on my laptop. > Chkdsk will not run on reboot. Will not run in safe mode claiming it cannot > lock the disk because it's in use by another service. Will not run at C: > prompt. Cannot install third party drive check (Seagate / Maxtor) although > already installed Western Digital software says SMART says drive is okay.
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