Hi kenb. did as you said windows key+s etc. Nothing in corner saying change product key, cannot scroll down. The info on the page gives the following, windows edition, system, computer name domain and workgroup settings, windows activation. So I clicked windows activation and the laptop thought about it then said sorry but windows cannot be activated at this time, please try later. Getting fed up now, if I reinstall windows via the disc I was given, will this make any difference do you think?. Thanks for your help and patience so far.