That's correct, didn't really think about that when I got AVG. The thing is, the viruses were only detected by Windows after AVG was installed, and I downloaded it straight from the main site. More sites are also being blocked, such as email sites, and at times, the BSoD decides to show itself. I'll get those updates and tell you how it goes. And on startup, Norton won't run, saying it can't load various .dlls