Guest midwest_46@yahoo.com Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. ---------- When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta). The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed again. When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and visible. After the color test, the rest of the installation was done. ---------- In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2 sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink cartridge was nearly empty. Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something. However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB cable. Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that, in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily." ---------- So, here are my questions: 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads whenever they want to? 3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to Windows XP would be too much trouble. ---------- Thanks for any information.
Guest TaurArian Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 RE: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks! RE: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks! What update do you believe caused this problem? If you believe an update wasn't response, perhaps contact Brother regarding the disappearing ink. Thank you. -- -------------------------------- TaurArian [MVP] 2005-2008 Update Services http://taurarian.mvps.org "midwest_46@yahoo.com" wrote: > I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 > processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. > > The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). > > Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is > a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. > > ---------- > > When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube > system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors > corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta). > > The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet > showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear > and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be > done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and > the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed > again. > > When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing > lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the > yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and > the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four > times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and > visible. > > After the color test, the rest of the installation was done. > > ---------- > > In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2 > sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in > color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed > out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed > out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the > following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink > cartridge was nearly empty. > > Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power > supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I > plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something. > However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB > cable. > > Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the > print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide > states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will > regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that, > in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can > clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's > guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes > ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily." > > ---------- > > So, here are my questions: > > 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? > The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print > head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. > > 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans > the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the > machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part > of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued > for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads > whenever they want to? > > 3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this > particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer > a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively > lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to > find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to > Windows XP would be too much trouble. > > ---------- > > Thanks for any information. > >
Guest TaurArian Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 RE: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 We RE: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 We correction "response" should be "responsible" -- -------------------------------- TaurArian [MVP] 2005-2008 Update Services http://taurarian.mvps.org "TaurArian" wrote: > What update do you believe caused this problem? > > If you believe an update wasn't response, perhaps contact Brother regarding > the disappearing ink. > > Thank you. > > -- > > -------------------------------- > TaurArian [MVP] 2005-2008 > Update Services > http://taurarian.mvps.org > > > "midwest_46@yahoo.com" wrote: > > > I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 > > processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. > > > > The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). > > > > Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is > > a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. > > > > ---------- > > > > When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube > > system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors > > corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta). > > > > The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet > > showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear > > and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be > > done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and > > the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed > > again. > > > > When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing > > lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the > > yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and > > the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four > > times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and > > visible. > > > > After the color test, the rest of the installation was done. > > > > ---------- > > > > In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2 > > sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in > > color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed > > out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed > > out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the > > following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink > > cartridge was nearly empty. > > > > Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power > > supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I > > plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something. > > However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB > > cable. > > > > Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the > > print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide > > states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will > > regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that, > > in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can > > clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's > > guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes > > ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily." > > > > ---------- > > > > So, here are my questions: > > > > 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? > > The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print > > head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. > > > > 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans > > the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the > > machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part > > of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued > > for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads > > whenever they want to? > > > > 3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this > > particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer > > a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively > > lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to > > find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to > > Windows XP would be too much trouble. > > > > ---------- > > > > Thanks for any information. > > > >
Guest Serge Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 RE: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks! RE: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks! "midwest_46@yahoo.com" wrote: > I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 > processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. > > The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). > > Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is > a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. > > ---------- > > When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube > system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors > corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta). > > The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet > showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear > and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be > done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and > the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed > again. > > When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing > lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the > yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and > the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four > times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and > visible. > > After the color test, the rest of the installation was done. > > ---------- > > In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2 > sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in > color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed > out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed > out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the > following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink > cartridge was nearly empty. > > Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power > supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I > plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something. > However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB > cable. > > Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the > print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide > states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will > regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that, > in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can > clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's > guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes > ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily." > > ---------- > > So, here are my questions: > > 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? > The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print > head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. > > 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans > the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the > machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part > of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued > for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads > whenever they want to? > > 3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this > particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer > a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively > lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to > find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to > Windows XP would be too much trouble. > > ---------- > > Thanks for any information. > >
Guest bm Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks!!! I have an Epson combined Printer/Scanner and when bought new I was warned that the cartridges installed would be used for the initial loading of colour and black and the cartridges would not last as long as new cartridges and I was advised to buy a new set at the same time as buying the Printer/Scanner It may be similar in the case of Brother There was also a warning that carrying out cleaning too often will use a disproportionate amount of ink. Hope this helps Blair <midwest_46@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ce99764b-172e-4d95-8cad-f59ddc2fdfcb@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 > processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. > > The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). > > Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is > a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. > > ---------- > > When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube > system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors > corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta). > > The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet > showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear > and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be > done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and > the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed > again. > > When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing > lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the > yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and > the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four > times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and > visible. > > After the color test, the rest of the installation was done. > > ---------- > > In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2 > sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in > color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed > out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed > out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the > following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink > cartridge was nearly empty. > > Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power > supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I > plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something. > However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB > cable. > > Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the > print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide > states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will > regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that, > in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can > clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's > guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes > ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily." > > ---------- > > So, here are my questions: > > 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? > The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print > head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. > > 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans > the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the > machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part > of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued > for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads > whenever they want to? > > 3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this > particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer > a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively > lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to > find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to > Windows XP would be too much trouble. > > ---------- > > Thanks for any information. >
Guest pjp Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks!!! First - realize the printer companies are selling INK at an exorbitant price, that's the business model. Second - new printers often have a less than full ink load in the cartridges. Third - cleaning consumes ink. Fourth - for black and white/text output etc. consider getting a laser, magnitude less cost involved with consumables. Fifth - inkjets tend to be "use it or loss it" regarding ink, e.g. unused and ink dries forcing cleaning Sixth - buy the cheapest inkjet and when ink runs out buy another over buying just the ink <midwest_46@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ce99764b-172e-4d95-8cad-f59ddc2fdfcb@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 > processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. > > The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). > > Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is > a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. > > ---------- > > When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube > system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors > corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta). > > The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet > showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear > and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be > done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and > the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed > again. > > When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing > lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the > yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and > the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four > times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and > visible. > > After the color test, the rest of the installation was done. > > ---------- > > In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2 > sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in > color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed > out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed > out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the > following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink > cartridge was nearly empty. > > Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power > supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I > plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something. > However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB > cable. > > Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the > print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide > states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will > regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that, > in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can > clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's > guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes > ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily." > > ---------- > > So, here are my questions: > > 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? > The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print > head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. > > 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans > the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the > machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part > of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued > for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads > whenever they want to? > > 3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this > particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer > a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively > lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to > find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to > Windows XP would be too much trouble. > > ---------- > > Thanks for any information. >
Guest Al Bundy Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2Weeks!!! Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2Weeks!!! On Jun 23, 1:18 am, midwest...@yahoo.com wrote: > I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 > processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. > > The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). > > Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is > a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. > > ---------- > What were you using for a printer before this? Old printers are available from thrift shops, garage sales, the Salvation Army, and church rummage sales. You could buy the XP upgrade for $87 or so. It should run fine on your system and be easy to install.
Guest mikeyhsd Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks!!! new printers come with a "STARTER" cartridge. meant to last for just a few pages. that way the manufacturer can soak you $ for a new FULL cartridge. mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com <midwest_46@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ce99764b-172e-4d95-8cad-f59ddc2fdfcb@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. ---------- When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta). The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed again. When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and visible. After the color test, the rest of the installation was done. ---------- In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2 sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink cartridge was nearly empty. Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something. However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB cable. Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that, in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily." ---------- So, here are my questions: 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads whenever they want to? 3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to Windows XP would be too much trouble. ---------- Thanks for any information.
Guest FrankV Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks!!! The answer to that is never buy another Brother printer. I know because I have an MFC-5100c at home and another at my small business office. Both have the same problem with ink cartridges. I've learned I have to use the "ink" button every few days or the problem starts happening again. In other words, Brothers is JUNK. Frank <midwest_46@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ce99764b-172e-4d95-8cad-f59ddc2fdfcb@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 > processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. > > The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). > > Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is > a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. > > ---------- > > When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube > system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors > corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta). > > The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet > showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear > and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be > done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and > the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed > again. > > When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing > lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the > yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and > the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four > times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and > visible. > > After the color test, the rest of the installation was done. > > ---------- > > In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2 > sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in > color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed > out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed > out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the > following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink > cartridge was nearly empty. > > Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power > supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I > plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something. > However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB > cable. > > Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the > print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide > states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will > regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that, > in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can > clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's > guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes > ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily." > > ---------- > > So, here are my questions: > > 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? > The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print > head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. > > 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans > the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the > machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part > of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued > for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads > whenever they want to? > > 3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this > particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer > a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively > lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to > find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to > Windows XP would be too much trouble. > > ---------- > > Thanks for any information. >
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks!!! What in the world does this have to do with Windows Update, WinXP OS, and/or WinXP Set-up and Deployment? midwest_46@yahoo.com wrote: > I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 > processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. > > The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). > > Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is > a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. > > ---------- > > When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube > system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors > corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta). > > The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet > showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear > and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be > done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and > the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed > again. > > When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing > lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the > yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and > the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four > times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and > visible. > > After the color test, the rest of the installation was done. > > ---------- > > In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2 > sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in > color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed > out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed > out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the > following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink > cartridge was nearly empty. > > Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power > supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I > plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something. > However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB > cable. > > Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the > print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide > states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will > regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that, > in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can > clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's > guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes > ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily." > > ---------- > > So, here are my questions: > > 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? > The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print > head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. > > 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans > the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the > machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part > of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued > for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads > whenever they want to? > > 3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this > particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer > a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively > lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to > find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to > Windows XP would be too much trouble. > > ---------- > > Thanks for any information.
Guest measekite Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks!!! I would upgrade the OS to at least W2k if the hardware allows. Since a set of ink costs almost as much as a printer I would trash the Brother and buy a Canon on sale. You problems with the system you have will never cease. midwest_46@yahoo.com wrote: > I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 > processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. > > The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). > A horrible OS > Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is > a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. > Not the greatest MFP > ---------- > > When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube > system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors > corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta). > > The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet > showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear > and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be > done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and > the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed > again. > > When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing > lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the > yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and > the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four > times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and > visible. > > After the color test, the rest of the installation was done. > > ---------- > > In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2 > sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in > color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed > out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed > out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the > following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink > cartridge was nearly empty. > > Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power > supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I > plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something. > However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB > cable. > > Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the > print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide > states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will > regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that, > in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can > clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's > guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes > ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily." > > ---------- > > So, here are my questions: > > 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? > The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print > head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. > > 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans > the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the > machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part > of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued > for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads > whenever they want to? > > 3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this > particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer > a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively > lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to > find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to > Windows XP would be too much trouble. > > ---------- > > Thanks for any information. > >
Guest measekite Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks!!! pjp wrote: First - realize the printer companies are selling INK at an exorbitant price, that's the business model. Second - new printers often have a less than full ink load in the cartridges. Not Canon Third - cleaning consumes ink. Never cleaned my Canon IP4000 in 4 years Fourth - for black and white/text output etc. consider getting a laser, magnitude less cost involved with consumables. True Fifth - inkjets tend to be "use it or loss it" regarding ink, e.g. unused and ink dries forcing cleaning Not the case with my Canon IP4000 Sixth - buy the cheapest inkjet and when ink runs out buy another over buying just the ink Poor advice. Buy the best standard format printer and use OEM ink at Costco. The better printer usually will print photos better and faster than the cheapest. <midwest_46@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ce99764b-172e-4d95-8cad-f59ddc2fdfcb@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. ---------- When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta). The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed again. When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and visible. After the color test, the rest of the installation was done. ---------- In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2 sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink cartridge was nearly empty. Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something. However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB cable. Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that, in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily." ---------- So, here are my questions: 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads whenever they want to? 3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to Windows XP would be too much trouble. ---------- Thanks for any information.
Guest measekite Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks!!! Not Canon mikeyhsd wrote: new printers come with a "STARTER" cartridge. meant to last for just a few pages. that way the manufacturer can soak you $ for a new FULL cartridge. mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com <midwest_46@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ce99764b-172e-4d95-8cad-f59ddc2fdfcb@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. ---------- When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta). The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed again. When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and visible. After the color test, the rest of the installation was done. ---------- In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2 sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink cartridge was nearly empty. Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something. However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB cable. Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that, in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily." ---------- So, here are my questions: 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads whenever they want to? 3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to Windows XP would be too much trouble. ---------- Thanks for any information.
Guest Big_Al Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks!!! measekite wrote: > > > pjp wrote: >> First - realize the printer companies are selling INK at an exorbitant >> price, that's the business model. >> >> Second - new printers often have a less than full ink load in the >> cartridges. >> > Not Canon >> Third - cleaning consumes ink. >> > Never cleaned my Canon IP4000 in 4 years >> Fourth - for black and white/text output etc. consider getting a laser, >> magnitude less cost involved with consumables. >> > True >> Fifth - inkjets tend to be "use it or loss it" regarding ink, e.g. unused >> and ink dries forcing cleaning >> > Not the case with my Canon IP4000 >> Sixth - buy the cheapest inkjet and when ink runs out buy another over >> buying just the ink >> > Poor advice. Buy the best standard format printer and use OEM ink at > Costco. The better printer usually will print photos better and faster > than the cheapest. >> <midwest_46@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:ce99764b-172e-4d95-8cad-f59ddc2fdfcb@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >> >>> I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 >>> processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. >>> >>> The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). >>> >>> Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is >>> a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. >>> >>> ---------- >>> >>> When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube >>> system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors >>> corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta). >>> >>> The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet >>> showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear >>> and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be >>> done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and >>> the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed >>> again. >>> >>> When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing >>> lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the >>> yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and >>> the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four >>> times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and >>> visible. >>> >>> After the color test, the rest of the installation was done. >>> >>> ---------- >>> >>> In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2 >>> sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in >>> color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed >>> out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed >>> out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the >>> following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink >>> cartridge was nearly empty. >>> >>> Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power >>> supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I >>> plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something. >>> However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB >>> cable. >>> >>> Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the >>> print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide >>> states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will >>> regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that, >>> in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can >>> clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's >>> guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes >>> ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily." >>> >>> ---------- >>> >>> So, here are my questions: >>> >>> 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? >>> The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print >>> head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. >>> >>> 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans >>> the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the >>> machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part >>> of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued >>> for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads >>> whenever they want to? >>> >>> 3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this >>> particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer >>> a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively >>> lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to >>> find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to >>> Windows XP would be too much trouble. >>> >>> ---------- >>> >>> Thanks for any information. >>> >>> >> >> >> I have a canon IP4000 and love it. Doesn't use ink that much and you can buy 3rd party cartridges for about $4 per rather than the typical $12 at Costco.
Guest Tony Meloche Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks!!! measekite wrote: (sizeable snip) >> >> So, here are my questions: >> >> 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? >> The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print >> head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. Two things: 1) In any printer, cleaning of the heads uses a fair amount of ink. When the cleaning process is run multiple times, make that a LOT of ink. 2) The printer is new. So you are using the original "supplied" ink cartridges. The "supplied" ink cartridges in a new printer are only about half as full as the replacement cartridges you will buy (courtesy of an honest middle-age salesman at the computer store). He told me that is true of any brand. >> 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans >> the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the >> machine from cleaning itself too much? You can't, but if the printer's software is any good at all, it will only clean the heads when it needs to. In most printers I have owned, the more *often* the printer is used, the *less* often the heads have to be cleaned. Sitting around for days not being used is what clogs the heads most. >> Is this some scam on the part >> of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Well, it's a given that in ANY brand of printer, the real profit is in the aftermarket cartridge sales. That's old news. >> Can Brother be sued >> for this? Let's put it this way: You can always find a lawyer somewhere willing to try anything as a test case. >> Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads >> whenever they want to? As far as I know, yes. >> >> 3) Do I have a defective printer? Possibly. My guess is "no". >> Should I get a refund? Only you can answer that. >> >> Thanks for any information. Hope it helped. Tony >> >> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----
Guest measekite Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks!!! Big_Al wrote: > measekite wrote: >> >> >> pjp wrote: >>> First - realize the printer companies are selling INK at an exorbitant >>> price, that's the business model. >>> >>> Second - new printers often have a less than full ink load in the >>> cartridges. >>> >> Not Canon >>> Third - cleaning consumes ink. >>> >> Never cleaned my Canon IP4000 in 4 years >>> Fourth - for black and white/text output etc. consider getting a laser, >>> magnitude less cost involved with consumables. >>> >> True >>> Fifth - inkjets tend to be "use it or loss it" regarding ink, e.g. >>> unused >>> and ink dries forcing cleaning >>> >> Not the case with my Canon IP4000 >>> Sixth - buy the cheapest inkjet and when ink runs out buy another over >>> buying just the ink >>> >> Poor advice. Buy the best standard format printer and use OEM ink at >> Costco. The better printer usually will print photos better and >> faster than the cheapest. >>> <midwest_46@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:ce99764b-172e-4d95-8cad-f59ddc2fdfcb@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> >>>> I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 >>>> processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. >>>> >>>> The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). >>>> >>>> Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is >>>> a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> >>>> When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube >>>> system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors >>>> corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta). >>>> >>>> The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet >>>> showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear >>>> and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be >>>> done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and >>>> the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed >>>> again. >>>> >>>> When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing >>>> lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the >>>> yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and >>>> the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four >>>> times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and >>>> visible. >>>> >>>> After the color test, the rest of the installation was done. >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> >>>> In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2 >>>> sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in >>>> color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed >>>> out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed >>>> out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the >>>> following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink >>>> cartridge was nearly empty. >>>> >>>> Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power >>>> supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I >>>> plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something. >>>> However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB >>>> cable. >>>> >>>> Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the >>>> print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide >>>> states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will >>>> regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that, >>>> in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can >>>> clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's >>>> guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes >>>> ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily." >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> >>>> So, here are my questions: >>>> >>>> 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? >>>> The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print >>>> head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. >>>> >>>> 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans >>>> the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the >>>> machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part >>>> of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued >>>> for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads >>>> whenever they want to? >>>> >>>> 3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this >>>> particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer >>>> a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively >>>> lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to >>>> find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to >>>> Windows XP would be too much trouble. >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> >>>> Thanks for any information. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> > I have a canon IP4000 and love it. Doesn't use ink that much and you > can buy 3rd party cartridges for about $4 per rather than the typical > $12 at Costco. Poor advice. You get poorer quality results, increased risk of fading, never know what you are buying cause the vendor will not tell you, increased risk of printhead failure, and more.
Guest Big_Al Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks!!! measekite wrote: > > > Big_Al wrote: >> measekite wrote: >>> >>> >>> pjp wrote: >>>> First - realize the printer companies are selling INK at an exorbitant >>>> price, that's the business model. >>>> >>>> Second - new printers often have a less than full ink load in the >>>> cartridges. >>>> >>> Not Canon >>>> Third - cleaning consumes ink. >>>> >>> Never cleaned my Canon IP4000 in 4 years >>>> Fourth - for black and white/text output etc. consider getting a laser, >>>> magnitude less cost involved with consumables. >>>> >>> True >>>> Fifth - inkjets tend to be "use it or loss it" regarding ink, e.g. >>>> unused >>>> and ink dries forcing cleaning >>>> >>> Not the case with my Canon IP4000 >>>> Sixth - buy the cheapest inkjet and when ink runs out buy another over >>>> buying just the ink >>>> >>> Poor advice. Buy the best standard format printer and use OEM ink at >>> Costco. The better printer usually will print photos better and >>> faster than the cheapest. >>>> <midwest_46@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:ce99764b-172e-4d95-8cad-f59ddc2fdfcb@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>> >>>>> I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 >>>>> processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. >>>>> >>>>> The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). >>>>> >>>>> Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is >>>>> a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> >>>>> When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube >>>>> system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors >>>>> corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta). >>>>> >>>>> The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet >>>>> showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear >>>>> and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be >>>>> done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and >>>>> the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed >>>>> again. >>>>> >>>>> When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing >>>>> lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the >>>>> yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and >>>>> the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four >>>>> times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and >>>>> visible. >>>>> >>>>> After the color test, the rest of the installation was done. >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> >>>>> In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2 >>>>> sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in >>>>> color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed >>>>> out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed >>>>> out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the >>>>> following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink >>>>> cartridge was nearly empty. >>>>> >>>>> Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power >>>>> supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I >>>>> plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something. >>>>> However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB >>>>> cable. >>>>> >>>>> Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the >>>>> print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide >>>>> states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will >>>>> regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that, >>>>> in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can >>>>> clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's >>>>> guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes >>>>> ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily." >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> >>>>> So, here are my questions: >>>>> >>>>> 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? >>>>> The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print >>>>> head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. >>>>> >>>>> 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans >>>>> the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the >>>>> machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part >>>>> of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued >>>>> for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads >>>>> whenever they want to? >>>>> >>>>> 3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this >>>>> particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer >>>>> a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively >>>>> lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to >>>>> find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to >>>>> Windows XP would be too much trouble. >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for any information. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> I have a canon IP4000 and love it. Doesn't use ink that much and you >> can buy 3rd party cartridges for about $4 per rather than the typical >> $12 at Costco. > Poor advice. You get poorer quality results, increased risk of fading, > never know what you are buying cause the vendor will not tell you, > increased risk of printhead failure, and more. Been working for years, guess I got the right vendor. Granted I send my photos to Walmart to print and rarely print photos at home. For color text printing the ink works fine. Even prints CD's fine too.
Guest Kelly Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks!!! >> The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). Or XP in general. He is running ME. -- All the Best, Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP) Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm SupportSpace http://www.supportspace.com/pages?aiu=kellyskorner "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:u5opcPU1IHA.416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > What in the world does this have to do with Windows Update, WinXP OS, > and/or WinXP Set-up and Deployment? > > midwest_46@yahoo.com wrote: >> I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 >> processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. >> >> The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). >> >> Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is >> a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. >> >> ---------- >> >> When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube >> system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors >> corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta). >> >> The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet >> showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear >> and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be >> done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and >> the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed >> again. >> >> When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing >> lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the >> yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and >> the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four >> times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and >> visible. >> >> After the color test, the rest of the installation was done. >> >> ---------- >> >> In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2 >> sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in >> color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed >> out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed >> out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the >> following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink >> cartridge was nearly empty. >> >> Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power >> supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I >> plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something. >> However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB >> cable. >> >> Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the >> print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide >> states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will >> regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that, >> in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can >> clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's >> guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes >> ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily." >> >> ---------- >> >> So, here are my questions: >> >> 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? >> The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print >> head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. >> >> 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans >> the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the >> machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part >> of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued >> for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads >> whenever they want to? >> >> 3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this >> particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer >> a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively >> lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to >> find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to >> Windows XP would be too much trouble. >> >> ---------- >> >> Thanks for any information. >
Guest HeyBub Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks!!! midwest_46@yahoo.com wrote: > I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 > processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. > > The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). > > Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is > a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. > Ah, the old Gillette business model: give away the razor and sell the blades. You can refill the cartridges and/or get a cartridge chip resetter.
Guest FrankV Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks!!! I was answering questions 1) and 2). "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:u5opcPU1IHA.416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > What in the world does this have to do with Windows Update, WinXP OS, > and/or WinXP Set-up and Deployment? > > midwest_46@yahoo.com wrote: >> I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 >> processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. >> >> The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). >> >> Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is >> a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. >> >> ---------- >> >> When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube >> system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors >> corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta). >> >> The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet >> showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear >> and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be >> done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and >> the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed >> again. >> >> When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing >> lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the >> yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and >> the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four >> times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and >> visible. >> >> After the color test, the rest of the installation was done. >> >> ---------- >> >> In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2 >> sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in >> color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed >> out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed >> out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the >> following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink >> cartridge was nearly empty. >> >> Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power >> supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I >> plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something. >> However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB >> cable. >> >> Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the >> print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide >> states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will >> regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that, >> in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can >> clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's >> guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes >> ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily." >> >> ---------- >> >> So, here are my questions: >> >> 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? >> The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print >> head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. >> >> 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans >> the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the >> machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part >> of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued >> for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads >> whenever they want to? >> >> 3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this >> particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer >> a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively >> lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to >> find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to >> Windows XP would be too much trouble. >> >> ---------- >> >> Thanks for any information. >
Guest Alan Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks!!! The Polaroid Corporation also very successfully followed that business model for nearly 50 years. Alan "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message news:OJUx$vY1IHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > midwest_46@yahoo.com wrote: > > Ah, the old Gillette business model: give away the razor and sell the > blades. > > You can refill the cartridges and/or get a cartridge chip resetter. >
Guest midwest_46@yahoo.com Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2Weeks!!! Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2Weeks!!! On Jun 23, 10:34�am, measekite <inkysti...@oem.com> wrote: > I would upgrade the OS to at least W2k if the hardware allows. > In a previous thread, I asked whether I should upgrade to Win XP or to another Win OS. It was determined that my hardware (RAM, hard-drive space) was insufficient and that upgrading the hardware would be too much trouble. > Since a set of ink costs almost as much as a printer I would trash the > Brother and buy a Canon on sale. �You problems with the system you have > will never cease. > Which problems with the system I have will never cease? Are you saying that Brother ink cartridges will always be used up quickly? Some of the other posters have said that only the ink cartridges that come with the printer are low. So, if I buy new cartridges, these cartridges should last a long time. Correct? Also, do I have to buy all 4 Brother cartridges at once? Or can I buy only the yellow, since that cartridge is the one that is almost empty?
Guest midwest_46@yahoo.com Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2Weeks!!! Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2Weeks!!! On Jun 23, 1:44�pm, Big_Al <Bi...@md.com> wrote: > Been working for years, guess I got the right vendor. > Granted I send my photos to Walmart to print and rarely print photos at > home. �For color text printing the ink works fine. � Even prints CD's > fine too. Why would I buy a printer that could print photos, and then send the photos to Wal-Mart for printing?
Guest midwest_46@yahoo.com Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2Weeks!!! Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2Weeks!!! On Jun 23, 9:41�am, "FrankV" <Fra...@noaddress.com> wrote: > The answer to that is never buy another Brother printer. I know because I > have an MFC-5100c at home and another at my small business office. Both have > the same problem with ink cartridges. I've learned I have to use the "ink" > button every few days or the problem starts happening again. > > In other words, Brothers is JUNK. > How does using the "Ink" button help? And what problem does this button solve?
Guest bm Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks!!! <midwest_46@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:86130b22-a8bc-4744-9ff1-7d0c22057a15@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... On Jun 23, 10:34?am, measekite <inkysti...@oem.com> wrote: > I would upgrade the OS to at least W2k if the hardware allows. > In a previous thread, I asked whether I should upgrade to Win XP or to another Win OS. It was determined that my hardware (RAM, hard-drive space) was insufficient and that upgrading the hardware would be too much trouble. > Since a set of ink costs almost as much as a printer I would trash the > Brother and buy a Canon on sale. ?You problems with the system you have > will never cease. > Which problems with the system I have will never cease? Are you saying that Brother ink cartridges will always be used up quickly? Some of the other posters have said that only the ink cartridges that come with the printer are low. So, if I buy new cartridges, these cartridges should last a long time. Correct? Also, do I have to buy all 4 Brother cartridges at once? Or can I buy only the yellow, since that cartridge is the one that is almost empty? Correct. The new ones will last longer You can buy the colour cartridges seperately Blair
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