Guest S1L1Y1 Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my clipboard. I noticed that even after I close the file it still stays in the clipboard at uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can I clear it manually? Sol
Guest dadiOH Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard S1L1Y1 wrote: > I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my > clipboard. I noticed that even after I close the file it still stays > in the clipboard at uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can > I clear it manually? > Sol A block of memory is used for the clipboard. It doesn't matter what is in it, no additional memory is being used. "Clearing" it wouldn't give you a single byte more of available RAM. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard That would imply that the amount of data you can put into the clipboard is limited. Would you happen to know how large the reserved chunk of memory is? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message news:uAsjWUi1IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > S1L1Y1 wrote: >> I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my >> clipboard. I noticed that even after I close the file it still stays >> in the clipboard at uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can >> I clear it manually? >> Sol > > A block of memory is used for the clipboard. It doesn't matter what is in > it, no additional memory is being used. "Clearing" it wouldn't give you a > single byte more of available RAM. > > -- > > dadiOH > ____________________________ > > dadiOH's dandies v3.06... > ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from > LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. > Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico > > >
Guest S1L1Y1 Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard How can I found that information? Sol "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:eDd%23bYi1IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > That would imply that the amount of data you can put into the clipboard is > limited. Would you happen to know how large the reserved chunk of memory is? > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message > news:uAsjWUi1IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > S1L1Y1 wrote: > >> I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my > >> clipboard. I noticed that even after I close the file it still stays > >> in the clipboard at uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can > >> I clear it manually? > >> Sol > > > > A block of memory is used for the clipboard. It doesn't matter what is in > > it, no additional memory is being used. "Clearing" it wouldn't give you a > > single byte more of available RAM. > > > > -- > > > > dadiOH > > ____________________________ > > > > dadiOH's dandies v3.06... > > ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from > > LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. > > Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico > > > > > > > >
Guest glee Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message news:uAsjWUi1IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > S1L1Y1 wrote: >> I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my >> clipboard. I noticed that even after I close the file it still stays >> in the clipboard at uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can >> I clear it manually? >> Sol > > A block of memory is used for the clipboard. It doesn't matter what is in it, no > additional memory is being used. "Clearing" it wouldn't give you a single byte > more of available RAM. Are you sure about that, dadiOH? My understanding is that a very large file or a very large amount of copied data on the clipboard would use a lot more memory than a copy of a single word. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ http://dts-l.net/ http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard Using Clipboard Viewer. Optionally, you can simply highlight and copy a small bit of text. One source of small bits of text on your desktop are the filenames. Click once, press Ctrl-C, then click somewhere else. "How to Install and Run Clipboard Viewer" http://support.microsoft.com/kb/141310 -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:uk66B6h1IHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my clipboard. >I > noticed that even after I close the file it still stays in the clipboard > at > uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can I clear it manually? > Sol > >
Guest S1L1Y1 Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard It says physical memory available to windows 359,888 kb System resources 53% Free Sol "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:umn71xi1IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Using Clipboard Viewer. Optionally, you can simply highlight and copy a > small bit of text. One source of small bits of text on your desktop are the > filenames. Click once, press Ctrl-C, then click somewhere else. > > "How to Install and Run Clipboard Viewer" > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/141310 > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:uk66B6h1IHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my clipboard. > >I > > noticed that even after I close the file it still stays in the clipboard > > at > > uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can I clear it manually? > > Sol > > > > > >
Guest Tim Slattery Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote: >I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my clipboard. I >noticed that even after I close the file it still stays in the clipboard at >uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can I clear it manually? Whatever you copy to the clipboard stays there until you copy something else. So to get rid of this stuff, bring up a text file (or something) and copy just a tiny bit of it. -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(Shell/User) Slattery_T@bls.gov http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
Guest Bill in Co. Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard Tim Slattery wrote: > "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my >> clipboard. I >> noticed that even after I close the file it still stays in the clipboard >> at >> uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can I clear it manually? > > Whatever you copy to the clipboard stays there until you copy > something else. So to get rid of this stuff, bring up a text file (or > something) and copy just a tiny bit of it. > > -- > Tim Slattery > MS MVP(Shell/User) > Slattery_T@bls.gov > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt I do that too. :-)
Guest S1L1Y1 Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard I think I have besides the clipboard problem, a problem that my memory does not clear up fast, because when I do work that uses a lot of memory even after I will close some I will have freezing problems. Sol "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:umn71xi1IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Using Clipboard Viewer. Optionally, you can simply highlight and copy a > small bit of text. One source of small bits of text on your desktop are the > filenames. Click once, press Ctrl-C, then click somewhere else. > > "How to Install and Run Clipboard Viewer" > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/141310 > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:uk66B6h1IHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my clipboard. > >I > > noticed that even after I close the file it still stays in the clipboard > > at > > uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can I clear it manually? > > Sol > > > > > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard I spent twenty minutes searching Google and Microsoft.com. Simply reading that stuff clearly implied that dadiOH is wrong. My message to him was a challenge to show evidence for what he suggests, since on the face of it, and based upon personal experience, it makes no sense. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:%235Xkkki1IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > How can I found that information? > Sol > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:eDd%23bYi1IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> That would imply that the amount of data you can put into the clipboard >> is >> limited. Would you happen to know how large the reserved chunk of memory > is? >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message >> news:uAsjWUi1IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> > S1L1Y1 wrote: >> >> I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my >> >> clipboard. I noticed that even after I close the file it still stays >> >> in the clipboard at uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can >> >> I clear it manually? >> >> Sol >> > >> > A block of memory is used for the clipboard. It doesn't matter what is > in >> > it, no additional memory is being used. "Clearing" it wouldn't give >> > you > a >> > single byte more of available RAM. >> > >> > -- >> > >> > dadiOH >> > ____________________________ >> > >> > dadiOH's dandies v3.06... >> > ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from >> > LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. >> > Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard What does? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ewoTVIj1IHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > It says physical memory available to windows 359,888 kb > System resources 53% Free > Sol > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:umn71xi1IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Using Clipboard Viewer. Optionally, you can simply highlight and copy a >> small bit of text. One source of small bits of text on your desktop are > the >> filenames. Click once, press Ctrl-C, then click somewhere else. >> >> "How to Install and Run Clipboard Viewer" >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/141310 >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:uk66B6h1IHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my > clipboard. >> >I >> > noticed that even after I close the file it still stays in the >> > clipboard >> > at >> > uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can I clear it manually? >> > Sol >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard What information? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:%235Xkkki1IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > How can I found that information? > Sol > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:eDd%23bYi1IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> That would imply that the amount of data you can put into the clipboard >> is >> limited. Would you happen to know how large the reserved chunk of memory > is? >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message >> news:uAsjWUi1IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> > S1L1Y1 wrote: >> >> I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my >> >> clipboard. I noticed that even after I close the file it still stays >> >> in the clipboard at uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can >> >> I clear it manually? >> >> Sol >> > >> > A block of memory is used for the clipboard. It doesn't matter what is > in >> > it, no additional memory is being used. "Clearing" it wouldn't give >> > you > a >> > single byte more of available RAM. >> > >> > -- >> > >> > dadiOH >> > ____________________________ >> > >> > dadiOH's dandies v3.06... >> > ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from >> > LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. >> > Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard You've got a ton of System Resources there, especially if you're running a normal amount of background apps like antivirus, etc. I have no idea what that first sentence means. What says that? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ewoTVIj1IHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > It says physical memory available to windows 359,888 kb > System resources 53% Free > Sol > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:umn71xi1IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Using Clipboard Viewer. Optionally, you can simply highlight and copy a >> small bit of text. One source of small bits of text on your desktop are > the >> filenames. Click once, press Ctrl-C, then click somewhere else. >> >> "How to Install and Run Clipboard Viewer" >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/141310 >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:uk66B6h1IHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my > clipboard. >> >I >> > noticed that even after I close the file it still stays in the >> > clipboard >> > at >> > uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can I clear it manually? >> > Sol >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard That's because you're running Windows 98. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:%23SLEKLk1IHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >I think I have besides the clipboard problem, a problem that my memory does > not clear up fast, because when I do work that uses a lot of memory even > after I will close some I will have freezing problems. > Sol > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:umn71xi1IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Using Clipboard Viewer. Optionally, you can simply highlight and copy a >> small bit of text. One source of small bits of text on your desktop are > the >> filenames. Click once, press Ctrl-C, then click somewhere else. >> >> "How to Install and Run Clipboard Viewer" >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/141310 >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:uk66B6h1IHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my > clipboard. >> >I >> > noticed that even after I close the file it still stays in the >> > clipboard >> > at >> > uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can I clear it manually? >> > Sol >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest glee Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:uk66B6h1IHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my clipboard. I > noticed that even after I close the file it still stays in the clipboard at > uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can I clear it manually? > Sol You've received a number of replies on how to clear the clipboard. The easiest way for me is to use this tiny utility....I have used it since I was using Win95, through Win98, and still use it on WinXP: ClipClear 3.2.0 is a tiny proggie that just clears your clipboard contents - http://www.softpedia.com/get/Office-tools/Clipboard/ClipClear.shtml Note that the download link on that site no longer works. You can download ClipClear from here: http://www.moonsoftware.com/files/legacy/ClipClear_320.zip -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ http://dts-l.net/ http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
Guest Bill in Co. Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard One thing is obvious, however (and this may be what you're getting at): If you copy something to the clipboard, it IS using RAM to store it for immediate access If you want to (or feel compulsed to) free up that RAM, you can always do what was already mentioned: i.e, just copy a bit of text, and that will overwrite what was in there before, OR use the clear clipboard utility mentioned by Glen. But you really don't need to this all that often, in practice, from what I've seen. :-) Gary S. Terhune wrote: > I spent twenty minutes searching Google and Microsoft.com. Simply reading > that stuff clearly implied that dadiOH is wrong. My message to him was a > challenge to show evidence for what he suggests, since on the face of it, > and based upon personal experience, it makes no sense. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:%235Xkkki1IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> How can I found that information? >> Sol >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> news:eDd%23bYi1IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> That would imply that the amount of data you can put into the clipboard >>> is >>> limited. Would you happen to know how large the reserved chunk of memory >>> is? >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://grystmill.com >>> >>> "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message >>> news:uAsjWUi1IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> S1L1Y1 wrote: >>>>> I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my >>>>> clipboard. I noticed that even after I close the file it still stays >>>>> in the clipboard at uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can >>>>> I clear it manually? >>>>> Sol >>>> >>>> A block of memory is used for the clipboard. It doesn't matter what is >>>> in >>>> it, no additional memory is being used. "Clearing" it wouldn't give >>>> you >> a >>>> single byte more of available RAM. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> dadiOH >>>> ____________________________ >>>> >>>> dadiOH's dandies v3.06... >>>> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from >>>> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. >>>> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:uT$ajbn1IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > One thing is obvious, however (and this may be what you're getting at): > If you copy something to the clipboard, it IS using RAM to store it for > immediate access What makes you say that? Not obvious to me at all. In fact, the opposite. I see no reason or documentation that the Clipboard has any higher priority than most stuff in memory and should be able to be swapped out with no problem. > If you want to (or feel compulsed to) free up that RAM, you can always do > what was already mentioned: i.e, just copy a bit of text, and that will > overwrite what was in there before, OR use the clear clipboard utility > mentioned by Glen. But you really don't need to this all that often, > in practice, from what I've seen. :-) You know darned well that there's no such thing as "free RAM" in a healthy Win98 system. That would be wasting it. http://aumha.org/win4/a/memmgmt.htm (How many times have you seen that link, Bill? Surely you've read it.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> I spent twenty minutes searching Google and Microsoft.com. Simply reading >> that stuff clearly implied that dadiOH is wrong. My message to him was a >> challenge to show evidence for what he suggests, since on the face of it, >> and based upon personal experience, it makes no sense. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:%235Xkkki1IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> How can I found that information? >>> Sol >>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>> news:eDd%23bYi1IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> That would imply that the amount of data you can put into the clipboard >>>> is >>>> limited. Would you happen to know how large the reserved chunk of >>>> memory is? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>> http://grystmill.com >>>> >>>> "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message >>>> news:uAsjWUi1IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> S1L1Y1 wrote: >>>>>> I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my >>>>>> clipboard. I noticed that even after I close the file it still stays >>>>>> in the clipboard at uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can >>>>>> I clear it manually? >>>>>> Sol >>>>> >>>>> A block of memory is used for the clipboard. It doesn't matter what >>>>> is in >>>>> it, no additional memory is being used. "Clearing" it wouldn't give >>>>> you >>> a >>>>> single byte more of available RAM. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> dadiOH >>>>> ____________________________ >>>>> >>>>> dadiOH's dandies v3.06... >>>>> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from >>>>> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. >>>>> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico > >
Guest dadiOH Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard Not a clue. In fact, I've changed my mind about there being a clipboard buffer (which could have been dynamic and/or virtual, BTW)... 1. I had 303 MB free. 2. I copied a 155 MB folder 3. I still had 303 MB free RAM 4. I copied a 1 KB file 5. I still had 303 MB free RAM. That - and the rapidity with which something large is copied - leads me to the thought that *nothing* is actually copied when copying files or folders...that Windows merely sets up pointers *to* the object. That seems to be confirmed by Start-Run-clipbrd. That is sensible, IMO, for stuff that is on (integral to) the computer. It could also work for copies from the web by keeping that material in a temp folder as a file and pointing to it but that doesn't seem to be the case as the clipboard viewer spits out the copied material rather than a file/folder path. The same is true for data on the computer that is not a file or folder. Anyway, the relatively inconsequential amount of RAM consumed by something put on the clipboard is not something I think people need worry about nor that I think would degrade performance. Do you? dadiOH Who is pretty sure the sun rises in the east. IME :) ________________ Gary S. Terhune wrote: > That would imply that the amount of data you can put into the > clipboard is limited. Would you happen to know how large the reserved > chunk of memory is? > > "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message > news:uAsjWUi1IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> S1L1Y1 wrote: >>> I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my >>> clipboard. I noticed that even after I close the file it still stays >>> in the clipboard at uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how >>> can I clear it manually? >>> Sol >> >> A block of memory is used for the clipboard. It doesn't matter what >> is in it, no additional memory is being used. "Clearing" it >> wouldn't give you a single byte more of available RAM. >> >> -- >> >> dadiOH >> ____________________________ >> >> dadiOH's dandies v3.06... >> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from >> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. >> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
Guest Casey Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard In article <uk66B6h1IHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, s1l1y1@yahoo.com says... > I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my clipboard.. I > noticed that even after I close the file it still stays in the clipboard at > uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how can I clear it manually? > Sol > Try ClipClear. Quote... ClipClear, version 3.2.0 Copyright © 1997-2004, Moon Software. All Rights Reserved. Release date: January 5, 2004 Platforms: Windows 95/98/Me/NT4/2000/XP Price: freeware Author: Moon Software, Estonia Homepage: http://www.moonsoftware.com Be sure to visit http://www.moonsoftware.com for more usefull utilities & programs! Contents ======== - What is ClipClear? - Installation - Digitally Signed - History What is ClipClear? ================== ClipClear is a tiny free utility that allows you to clear the contents of the Windows clipboard with a click of the mouse. ClipClear places a little clipboard icon into tray area. If there is something in the clipboard, you'll see red cross over the icon. That means that by clicking on this icon you can clear the contents of the clipboard. That easy! Right-clicking the icon brings up a little popup menu with some commands for launcing Windows Clipboard Viewer etc. If you manage to copy large images and data over the clipboard now and again then you may find this utility useful. Also, there are some command line switches that change behaviour of the program: /CLEAR By including this switch on command line, ClipClear will clear the clipboard when it starts up. After that it will be running in the system tray area. /EXIT This switch is used along with the /CLEAR switch. It just instructs the program to exit after clearing the clipboard. By using both /CLEAR and /EXIT switches, you can use the program just to clear the clipboard, it will not remain running in the system tray. For example you can make a shortcut to the program in your QuickLaunch area of the system taskbar (including these switches), then, when you want to clear the clipboard just click the shortcut and you are done. Useful when you want to use the program occassinally. It does not consume system resources that way and gives you more room in the tray area for other applications. Installation ============ Unzip files into a directory of your choice and make shortcut to the ClipClear.exe into your StartUp group, so ClipClear will automatically start each time you start Windows. To remove it from your system, you just need to delete the files - there is no settings in the registry or in another folders. Digitally Signed ================ The executable file included is digitally signed. If you have received the file that has an invalid or missing digital signature please contact us. You can see Digital Signatures tab when you invoke file properties window of a digitally signed file.
Guest Bill in Co. Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard Gary S. Terhune wrote: > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:uT$ajbn1IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> One thing is obvious, however (and this may be what you're getting at): >> If you copy something to the clipboard, it IS using RAM to store it for >> immediate access > > What makes you say that? Not obvious to me at all. In fact, the opposite. > I > see no reason or documentation that the Clipboard has any higher priority > than most stuff in memory and should be able to be swapped out with no > problem. Priority? Where did I mention anything about priority? All I'm saying is: if you paste a picture (image) into the clipboard, the clipboard IS using some memory to hold it. RAM memory, of course. And usually it's minimal, but it is *still* being used to hold that image. >> If you want to (or feel compulsed to) free up that RAM, you can always do >> what was already mentioned: i.e, just copy a bit of text, and that will >> overwrite what was in there before, OR use the clear clipboard utility >> mentioned by Glen. But you really don't need to this all that often, >> in practice, from what I've seen. :-) > > You know darned well that there's no such thing as "free RAM" in a healthy > Win98 system. That would be wasting it. > http://aumha.org/win4/a/memmgmt.htm > > (How many times have you seen that link, Bill? Surely you've read it.) > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > >> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >>> I spent twenty minutes searching Google and Microsoft.com. Simply >>> reading >>> that stuff clearly implied that dadiOH is wrong. My message to him was a >>> challenge to show evidence for what he suggests, since on the face of >>> it, >>> and based upon personal experience, it makes no sense. >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://grystmill.com >>> >>> "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:%235Xkkki1IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> How can I found that information? >>>> Sol >>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>>> news:eDd%23bYi1IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> That would imply that the amount of data you can put into the >>>>> clipboard >>>>> is >>>>> limited. Would you happen to know how large the reserved chunk of >>>>> memory is? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>> http://grystmill.com >>>>> >>>>> "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:uAsjWUi1IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> S1L1Y1 wrote: >>>>>>> I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my >>>>>>> clipboard. I noticed that even after I close the file it still stays >>>>>>> in the clipboard at uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> I clear it manually? >>>>>>> Sol >>>>>> >>>>>> A block of memory is used for the clipboard. It doesn't matter what >>>>>> is in >>>>>> it, no additional memory is being used. "Clearing" it wouldn't give >>>>>> you >>>> a >>>>>> single byte more of available RAM. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> dadiOH >>>>>> ____________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> dadiOH's dandies v3.06... >>>>>> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from >>>>>> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. >>>>>> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
Guest Bill in Co. Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard dadiOH wrote: > Not a clue. In fact, I've changed my mind about there being a clipboard > buffer (which could have been dynamic and/or virtual, BTW)... > > 1. I had 303 MB free. > 2. I copied a 155 MB folder > 3. I still had 303 MB free RAM > 4. I copied a 1 KB file > 5. I still had 303 MB free RAM. > > That - and the rapidity with which something large is copied - leads me to > the thought that *nothing* is actually copied when copying files or > folders...that Windows merely sets up pointers *to* the object. And that is true for some things, like that. (But not for a pasted image, of course) I mean, it would be pretty stupid for the system to try to store everything in full in the clipboard, when it doesn't have to, like for this case (of copying files). > That seems to be confirmed by Start-Run-clipbrd. > > That is sensible, IMO, for stuff that is on (integral to) the computer. > It > could also work for copies from the web by keeping that material in a temp > folder as a file and pointing to it but that doesn't seem to be the case > as > the clipboard viewer spits out the copied material rather than a > file/folder > path. The same is true for data on the computer that is not a file or > folder. > > Anyway, the relatively inconsequential amount of RAM consumed by something > put on the clipboard is not something I think people need worry about nor > that I think would degrade performance. Do you? No. You're right about that. > dadiOH > > Who is pretty sure the sun rises in the east. IME :) > ________________ > > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> That would imply that the amount of data you can put into the >> clipboard is limited. Would you happen to know how large the reserved >> chunk of memory is? >> >> "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message >> news:uAsjWUi1IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> S1L1Y1 wrote: >>>> I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my >>>> clipboard. I noticed that even after I close the file it still stays >>>> in the clipboard at uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how >>>> can I clear it manually? >>>> Sol >>> >>> A block of memory is used for the clipboard. It doesn't matter what >>> is in it, no additional memory is being used. "Clearing" it >>> wouldn't give you a single byte more of available RAM. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> dadiOH >>> ____________________________ >>> >>> dadiOH's dandies v3.06... >>> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from >>> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. >>> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard Bill, there's a difference between RAM and Memory. Yes, the Clipboard, whether 1KB or 2GB in size, is going into Memory, but that doesn't mean it's staying in RAM. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:%23qB$%23hx1IHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message >> news:uT$ajbn1IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> One thing is obvious, however (and this may be what you're getting at): >>> If you copy something to the clipboard, it IS using RAM to store it for >>> immediate access >> >> What makes you say that? Not obvious to me at all. In fact, the opposite. >> I >> see no reason or documentation that the Clipboard has any higher priority >> than most stuff in memory and should be able to be swapped out with no >> problem. > > Priority? Where did I mention anything about priority? > All I'm saying is: if you paste a picture (image) into the clipboard, the > clipboard IS using some memory to hold it. RAM memory, of course. And > usually it's minimal, but it is *still* being used to hold that image. > >>> If you want to (or feel compulsed to) free up that RAM, you can always >>> do >>> what was already mentioned: i.e, just copy a bit of text, and that will >>> overwrite what was in there before, OR use the clear clipboard utility >>> mentioned by Glen. But you really don't need to this all that often, >>> in practice, from what I've seen. :-) >> >> You know darned well that there's no such thing as "free RAM" in a >> healthy >> Win98 system. That would be wasting it. >> http://aumha.org/win4/a/memmgmt.htm >> >> (How many times have you seen that link, Bill? Surely you've read it.) >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> >>> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >>>> I spent twenty minutes searching Google and Microsoft.com. Simply >>>> reading >>>> that stuff clearly implied that dadiOH is wrong. My message to him was >>>> a >>>> challenge to show evidence for what he suggests, since on the face of >>>> it, >>>> and based upon personal experience, it makes no sense. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>> http://grystmill.com >>>> >>>> "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:%235Xkkki1IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> How can I found that information? >>>>> Sol >>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>>>> news:eDd%23bYi1IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>> That would imply that the amount of data you can put into the >>>>>> clipboard >>>>>> is >>>>>> limited. Would you happen to know how large the reserved chunk of >>>>>> memory is? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>>> http://grystmill.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:uAsjWUi1IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> S1L1Y1 wrote: >>>>>>>> I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my >>>>>>>> clipboard. I noticed that even after I close the file it still >>>>>>>> stays >>>>>>>> in the clipboard at uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> I clear it manually? >>>>>>>> Sol >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A block of memory is used for the clipboard. It doesn't matter what >>>>>>> is in >>>>>>> it, no additional memory is being used. "Clearing" it wouldn't give >>>>>>> you >>>>> a >>>>>>> single byte more of available RAM. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> dadiOH >>>>>>> ____________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> dadiOH's dandies v3.06... >>>>>>> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from >>>>>>> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. >>>>>>> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico > >
Guest Bill in Co. Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard Things are either stored in RAM (which IS memory!), or on the hard drive (virtual memory). The 512 MB of RAM on your computer (or whatever) IS INDEED MEMORY. (I'm not counting the ROM or PROM memory here, since we can't write into that). Gary S. Terhune wrote: > Bill, there's a difference between RAM and Memory. Yes, the Clipboard, > whether 1KB or 2GB in size, is going into Memory, but that doesn't mean > it's > staying in RAM. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:%23qB$%23hx1IHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message >>> news:uT$ajbn1IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> One thing is obvious, however (and this may be what you're getting at): >>>> If you copy something to the clipboard, it IS using RAM to store it for >>>> immediate access >>> >>> What makes you say that? Not obvious to me at all. In fact, the >>> opposite. >>> I >>> see no reason or documentation that the Clipboard has any higher >>> priority >>> than most stuff in memory and should be able to be swapped out with no >>> problem. >> >> Priority? Where did I mention anything about priority? >> All I'm saying is: if you paste a picture (image) into the clipboard, >> the >> clipboard IS using some memory to hold it. RAM memory, of course. And >> usually it's minimal, but it is *still* being used to hold that image. >> >>>> If you want to (or feel compulsed to) free up that RAM, you can always >>>> do >>>> what was already mentioned: i.e, just copy a bit of text, and that >>>> will >>>> overwrite what was in there before, OR use the clear clipboard utility >>>> mentioned by Glen. But you really don't need to this all that >>>> often, >>>> in practice, from what I've seen. :-) >>> >>> You know darned well that there's no such thing as "free RAM" in a >>> healthy >>> Win98 system. That would be wasting it. >>> http://aumha.org/win4/a/memmgmt.htm >>> >>> (How many times have you seen that link, Bill? Surely you've read it.) >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://grystmill.com >>> >>> >>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >>>>> I spent twenty minutes searching Google and Microsoft.com. Simply >>>>> reading >>>>> that stuff clearly implied that dadiOH is wrong. My message to him was >>>>> a >>>>> challenge to show evidence for what he suggests, since on the face of >>>>> it, >>>>> and based upon personal experience, it makes no sense. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>> http://grystmill.com >>>>> >>>>> "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:%235Xkkki1IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> How can I found that information? >>>>>> Sol >>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>>>>> news:eDd%23bYi1IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> That would imply that the amount of data you can put into the >>>>>>> clipboard >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> limited. Would you happen to know how large the reserved chunk of >>>>>>> memory is? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>>>> http://grystmill.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:uAsjWUi1IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> S1L1Y1 wrote: >>>>>>>>> I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my >>>>>>>>> clipboard. I noticed that even after I close the file it still >>>>>>>>> stays >>>>>>>>> in the clipboard at uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how >>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>> I clear it manually? >>>>>>>>> Sol >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A block of memory is used for the clipboard. It doesn't matter >>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>> is in >>>>>>>> it, no additional memory is being used. "Clearing" it wouldn't >>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>> you >>>>>> a >>>>>>>> single byte more of available RAM. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> dadiOH >>>>>>>> ____________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> dadiOH's dandies v3.06... >>>>>>>> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from >>>>>>>> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. >>>>>>>> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 Re: Clear Clipboard Yes, you're right. This time. Go back and read your first comment in this thread. It says nothing of memory, it only mentions RAM. They are NOT the same thing. That is all I was pointing out. If the Clipboard contents are occupying RAM that the system wants, they will get swapped to the hard drive. The swap file is memory but it isn't RAM. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:O6IhJjz1IHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Things are either stored in RAM (which IS memory!), or on the hard drive > (virtual memory). The 512 MB of RAM on your computer (or whatever) IS > INDEED MEMORY. (I'm not counting the ROM or PROM memory here, since we > can't write into that). > > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> Bill, there's a difference between RAM and Memory. Yes, the Clipboard, >> whether 1KB or 2GB in size, is going into Memory, but that doesn't mean >> it's >> staying in RAM. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message >> news:%23qB$%23hx1IHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message >>>> news:uT$ajbn1IHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> One thing is obvious, however (and this may be what you're getting >>>>> at): >>>>> If you copy something to the clipboard, it IS using RAM to store it >>>>> for >>>>> immediate access >>>> >>>> What makes you say that? Not obvious to me at all. In fact, the >>>> opposite. >>>> I >>>> see no reason or documentation that the Clipboard has any higher >>>> priority >>>> than most stuff in memory and should be able to be swapped out with no >>>> problem. >>> >>> Priority? Where did I mention anything about priority? >>> All I'm saying is: if you paste a picture (image) into the clipboard, >>> the >>> clipboard IS using some memory to hold it. RAM memory, of course. >>> And >>> usually it's minimal, but it is *still* being used to hold that image. >>> >>>>> If you want to (or feel compulsed to) free up that RAM, you can always >>>>> do >>>>> what was already mentioned: i.e, just copy a bit of text, and that >>>>> will >>>>> overwrite what was in there before, OR use the clear clipboard utility >>>>> mentioned by Glen. But you really don't need to this all that >>>>> often, >>>>> in practice, from what I've seen. :-) >>>> >>>> You know darned well that there's no such thing as "free RAM" in a >>>> healthy >>>> Win98 system. That would be wasting it. >>>> http://aumha.org/win4/a/memmgmt.htm >>>> >>>> (How many times have you seen that link, Bill? Surely you've read it.) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>> http://grystmill.com >>>> >>>> >>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >>>>>> I spent twenty minutes searching Google and Microsoft.com. Simply >>>>>> reading >>>>>> that stuff clearly implied that dadiOH is wrong. My message to him >>>>>> was >>>>>> a >>>>>> challenge to show evidence for what he suggests, since on the face of >>>>>> it, >>>>>> and based upon personal experience, it makes no sense. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>>> http://grystmill.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:%235Xkkki1IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> How can I found that information? >>>>>>> Sol >>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:eDd%23bYi1IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> That would imply that the amount of data you can put into the >>>>>>>> clipboard >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> limited. Would you happen to know how large the reserved chunk of >>>>>>>> memory is? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>>>>> http://grystmill.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:uAsjWUi1IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> S1L1Y1 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I copied many pages of a PDF. file at it says it saves it in my >>>>>>>>>> clipboard. I noticed that even after I close the file it still >>>>>>>>>> stays >>>>>>>>>> in the clipboard at uses up memory. Why does this happen, and how >>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>> I clear it manually? >>>>>>>>>> Sol >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A block of memory is used for the clipboard. It doesn't matter >>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>> is in >>>>>>>>> it, no additional memory is being used. "Clearing" it wouldn't >>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> single byte more of available RAM. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> dadiOH >>>>>>>>> ____________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> dadiOH's dandies v3.06... >>>>>>>>> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from >>>>>>>>> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. >>>>>>>>> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico > >
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