Guest +Bob+ Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 I have (legal :-) XP on a CD. However, it's not a bootable XP CD, it's a CD with all the setup and cab programs that originally ran with a script. I need to do a repair installation. Is there some way to create a bootable CD that will do a "repair" using my XP cabs & setup programs, etc from the installed OS? Thanks,
Guest Bruce Chambers Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 Re: Create XP Boot/Repair/Install CD? +Bob+ wrote: > I have (legal :-) XP on a CD. However, it's not a bootable XP CD, it's > a CD with all the setup and cab programs that originally ran with a > script. > All legitimate WinXP installation CDs are bootable. What you appear to have is some sort of cludged together compilation. > I need to do a repair installation. Is there some way to create a > bootable CD that will do a "repair" using my XP cabs & setup programs, > etc from the installed OS? > Only if you have an OEM installation and the computer manufacturer included the capability within its chosen recovery mechanism. Consult the manual that came with the computer. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot
Guest +Bob+ Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 Re: Create XP Boot/Repair/Install CD? On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:18:59 -0600, Bruce Chambers <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote: > > All legitimate WinXP installation CDs are bootable. What you appear to >have is some sort of cludged together compilation. > It's company (corporate) supplied. They don't care to supply anything bootable and believe recovery is best served by sending the system to them and having them reload it from scratch. (Not really the solution I'm looking for). Anyway to create my own bootable CD and then do a repair? FWIW - the same issue exists with a lot of laptop manufacturers who refuse to supply CD's for OS's (e.g. Toshiba). You get the cab files but no CD and no prescribed way to create them. Any other solutions?
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 Re: Create XP Boot/Repair/Install CD? "+Bob+" <uctraing@ultranet.com> wrote in message news:3o8364h1ffbg1rft21dg56v05lmoc26cs4@4ax.com... > On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:18:59 -0600, Bruce Chambers > <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote: > >> >> All legitimate WinXP installation CDs are bootable. What you appear to >>have is some sort of cludged together compilation. >> > > It's company (corporate) supplied. They don't care to supply anything > bootable and believe recovery is best served by sending the system to > them and having them reload it from scratch. (Not really the solution > I'm looking for). Anyway to create my own bootable CD and then do a > repair? > > FWIW - the same issue exists with a lot of laptop manufacturers who > refuse to supply CD's for OS's (e.g. Toshiba). You get the cab files > but no CD and no prescribed way to create them. > > Any other solutions? There's actually another major issue here, which can override the practical concerns. If you have a corporate-supplied XP CD, you almost certainly also have a corporate-supplied computer. With both of those in place, the corporation also has an IT department that they expect - possibly require - you to use in case of problems. They are paid (a lot) to do this. You aren't. While there are a lot of circumstances where it's just easier to do the repairs yourself, in this situation, corporate policy may say that you may not. That's what they pay the IT group for, and it's not what they pay you to do. Doing the work youself can annoy the IT group, and they can in turn annoy your managers. Performing the work yourself can be what's known as a CLM. As to recovery CDs for laptops, yes, many are pre-configured as images with the drivers specific to the laptop hardware included, don't use the XP install, and you can't do a repair install with them. So, you may be in an inconvenient sitiuation, but corporate policy isn't always there for your convenience. If it delays your work... well, it's their policy, not yours. If you need the files to actually commit work while they have the PC, that is easy to do. Get a USB2 drive adapter or case, and connect the drive to another XP system and copy the files. However, if there are corporate confidentiality issues, it's very important to respect those; failing to do that can go beyond CLM to CTM territory. HTH -pk
Guest dadiOH Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 Re: Create XP Boot/Repair/Install CD? +Bob+ wrote: > I have (legal :-) XP on a CD. However, it's not a bootable XP CD, it's > a CD with all the setup and cab programs that originally ran with a > script. > > I need to do a repair installation. Is there some way to create a > bootable CD that will do a "repair" using my XP cabs & setup programs, > etc from the installed OS? There is certainly a way to make a bootable CD...many (most?) burning programs can do so. There is also Bart's PE http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
Guest +Bob+ Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 Re: Create XP Boot/Repair/Install CD? On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:20:52 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote: >If you need the files to actually commit work while they have the PC, that >is easy to do. Get a USB2 drive adapter or case, and connect the drive to >another XP system and copy the files. However, if there are corporate >confidentiality issues, it's very important to respect those; failing to do >that can go beyond CLM to CTM territory. Yawn. I don't need a lecture, I need a solution. Rules are for slackers and drones.
Guest +Bob+ Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 Re: Create XP Boot/Repair/Install CD? On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:10:57 -0400, "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote: >> >> I need to do a repair installation. Is there some way to create a >> bootable CD that will do a "repair" using my XP cabs & setup programs, >> etc from the installed OS? > >There is certainly a way to make a bootable CD...many (most?) burning >programs can do so. > >There is also Bart's PE >http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ DadiOH: I'm lightly familiar with Barts PE (read it, never made one). But, will that let me do a "repair" ? Or will I just have a bootable environment and be stuck with generic setup.
Guest dadiOH Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 Re: Create XP Boot/Repair/Install CD? +Bob+ wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:10:57 -0400, "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> > wrote: > >>> >>> I need to do a repair installation. Is there some way to create a >>> bootable CD that will do a "repair" using my XP cabs & setup >>> programs, etc from the installed OS? >> >> There is certainly a way to make a bootable CD...many (most?) burning >> programs can do so. >> >> There is also Bart's PE >> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ > > > DadiOH: > > I'm lightly familiar with Barts PE (read it, never made one). But, > will that let me do a "repair" ? Or will I just have a bootable > environment and be stuck with generic setup. It's a "live CD" IIRC... "Bart's PE Builder helps you build a "BartPE" (Bart Preinstalled Environment) bootable Windows CD-Rom or DVD from the original Windows XP or Windows Server 2003 installation/setup CD, very suitable for PC maintenance tasks. It will give you a complete Win32 environment with network support, a graphical user interface (800x600) and FAT/NTFS/CDFS filesystem support. Very handy for burn-in testing systems with no OS, rescuing files to a network share, virus scan and so on. This will replace any Dos bootdisk in no time!" ______________ But the live CD can be installed. Install screen shot http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/images/high/pehdinst.gif ______________ FAQ http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/faq/ _________________ If your only problem is lack of a bootable CD containing what you have, is there any reason you can't boot from a floppy - specifying CD support - then just run the setup that is on your CD? -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
Guest +Bob+ Posted June 26, 2008 Posted June 26, 2008 Re: Create XP Boot/Repair/Install CD? On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:50:17 -0400, "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote: >If your only problem is lack of a bootable CD containing what you have, is >there any reason you can't boot from a floppy - specifying CD support - then >just run the setup that is on your CD? Probably would work for a new install... but I am trying to do a repair install on a system and actually avoid a new install. Still, it's a fallback. Thanks,
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