Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

[Guest MEB]

Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM technology,

seems intent on extending device control.

 

Whatcha tink???

 

http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/06/13/microsoft-sets-up-digital-manners-police

 

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[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

I think:

 

=> The fact that MS has patented the technology does not mean it's being

used anywhere yet and people like you are being excessively alarmist;

 

=> It's a stretch to compare this technology to DRM;

 

"You walk into a movie theater, the movie theater sets your mobile phone to

vibrate for you."

 

=> Excellent! Wish it would disable the ability to make calls while in the

theater, too (bonus points for stuffing a sock in chatty people's mouths);

 

"You stroll into a museum, the museum disables the flash on your camera or

disables your camera altogether."

 

=> Excellent! Protects copyrights and fragile artwork;

 

"You get too close to the cockpit, any wireless device at risk of

interfering is shut off."

 

=> Excellent! Have it disable any wireless device altogether unless

passengers are embarking or disembarking, and it'll be even better. Hope

they use it in all forms of public tranportation, too.

--

~PA Bear

http://www.KillAllTheLawyers.mvp

 

 

 

MEB wrote:

> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM technology,

> seems intent on extending device control.

>

> Whatcha tink???

>

> http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/06/13/microsoft-sets-up-digital-manners-police

[Guest MEB]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

 

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

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| I think:

|

| => The fact that MS has patented the technology does not mean it's being

| used anywhere yet and people like you are being excessively alarmist;

 

Excuse me,, did I write the article... I don't think so...

 

|

| => It's a stretch to compare this technology to DRM;

|

| "You walk into a movie theater, the movie theater sets your mobile phone

to

| vibrate for you."

|

| => Excellent! Wish it would disable the ability to make calls while in the

| theater, too (bonus points for stuffing a sock in chatty people's mouths);

 

Oh me too. and the dirtier the sock the better... but this is the plus

side, the other side is that numerous people DO use their cells to copy

stage productions and other to their home computers. IT IS ILLEGAL, but is

turning off the ringer the intent or is it more likely to disable cell

phones entirely. {which I would support, kill the technology all together]

 

|

| "You stroll into a museum, the museum disables the flash on your camera or

| disables your camera altogether."

|

| => Excellent! Protects copyrights and fragile artwork;

|

| "You get too close to the cockpit, any wireless device at risk of

| interfering is shut off."

|

| => Excellent! Have it disable any wireless device altogether unless

| passengers are embarking or disembarking, and it'll be even better. Hope

| they use it in all forms of public tranportation, too.

| --

| ~PA Bear

| http://www.KillAllTheLawyers.mvp

|

 

So the above is the up side, but there are ALWAYS two sides to any coin.

The writer(s) attempted to address the potentials that could be associated

with other uses. Blanking out all cell phones with cameras could be

extremely misused by enforcement agencies. Hacking the control systems

software could leave entire houses, buildings, or cities at the mercy of the

hacker or other criminals.

 

Let's say you have your home controlled, using these controls and software,

someone hacks the system while you and your family are in the home, say at

night.

There is no automatic call to the security agency because its part of the

networked control system and has been disabled.

There's no phone system, because that was tied in as well.

There's no cell phones because your cells were tied in via their IDs.

No lights, they were controlled by the system.

Your electronic locks are disabled.

Your video security cameras and devices have also been disabled.

Your cars are disabled as they were tied in also.

Your hand gun or other you bought for protection has an electronically

"safety" which has also been locked/disabled so it can't be used.

 

Now explain WHY you think this is good technology.. oh wait, you were

likely beaten into coma or killed during this crime. So was the rest of your

family... guess your opinion is now non-existant, as you no longer exist.

 

To ignore the other potential uses while keying on those "things you want"

because they annoy you, would seem to be another instance of placing a

bullseye on your forehead, handing out sledge hammers, publicly posting your

"full responsibility statement' in which you and your attorneys obsolve any

others of responsibility, and asking people to hit the bullseye to prove

your invincable. I would bet your not.

 

|

|

| MEB wrote:

| > Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM technology,

| > seems intent on extending device control.

| >

| > Whatcha tink???

| >

| >

http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/06/13/microsoft-sets-up-digital-manners-police

|

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[Guest dadiOH]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

MEB wrote:

> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

>

> Whatcha tink???

 

I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental effort to

control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco

parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance of

responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's whelps.

Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.

 

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[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

dadiOH wrote:

> MEB wrote:

>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

>>

>> Whatcha tink???

>

> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental effort to

> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco

> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance of

> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's whelps.

> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.

 

Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,

unfortunately.

[Guest John Dulak]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

dadiOH wrote:

> MEB wrote:

>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

>>

>> Whatcha tink???

>

> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental effort to

> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco

> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance of

> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's whelps.

> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.

>

 

dadiO:

 

Fascinating Fact No. 6E9

 

http://mysite.verizon.net/jdulak1/6billion.htm

 

John

 

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[Guest Dan]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

It would be nice if people just had respect for each other. I do not really

want technology turning off my gadgets but if you go to the opening night of

a good movie you really want to see then I would hope people would be

courteous enough to silence their cellphone or at least turn it to vibrate.

If the person is spending $10 or so dollars to see a movie then the person

should be responsible enough to budget time to see the movie and silence

their gadgets and allow themselves to be wrapped up in a fantasy world for a

little while. That is my 2 cents.

 

"John Dulak" wrote:

> dadiOH wrote:

> > MEB wrote:

> >> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

> >> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

> >>

> >> Whatcha tink???

> >

> > I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental effort to

> > control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco

> > parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance of

> > responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's whelps.

> > Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.

> >

>

> dadiO:

>

> Fascinating Fact No. 6E9

>

> http://mysite.verizon.net/jdulak1/6billion.htm

>

> John

>

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> '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''

>

> John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6

>

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then realized

what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably thought the

same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little angel,

they were at least saying the same things about young people in general.

What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short skirts

and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the "responsible"

people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting was

so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?

 

I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is

overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This would

also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who have been

stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That means

policy maker in the Federal government.)

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> dadiOH wrote:

>> MEB wrote:

>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

>>>

>>> Whatcha tink???

>>

>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental effort

>> to

>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco

>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance of

>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's whelps.

>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.

>

> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,

> unfortunately.

>

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

<ROFL>

 

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then realized

> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably thought

> the

> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little

> angel,

> they were at least saying the same things about young people in general.

> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short skirts

> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the

> "responsible"

> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting was

> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?

>

> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is

> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This would

> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who have

> been

> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That means

> policy maker in the Federal government.)

>

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> dadiOH wrote:

>>> MEB wrote:

>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

>>>>

>>>> Whatcha tink???

>>>

>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental effort

>>> to

>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco

>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance of

>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's

>>> whelps.

>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.

>>

>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,

>> unfortunately.

[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!

 

Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over all

time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has been NO

change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal accountability, in

blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of lawsuits

today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of neighborhoods, etc,

etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote that).

 

ROFL.

 

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then realized

> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably thought

> the

> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little

> angel,

> they were at least saying the same things about young people in general.

> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short skirts

> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the

> "responsible"

> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting was

> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?

>

> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is

> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This would

> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who have

> been

> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That means

> policy maker in the Federal government.)

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> dadiOH wrote:

>>> MEB wrote:

>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

>>>>

>>>> Whatcha tink???

>>>

>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental effort

>>> to

>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco

>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance of

>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's

>>> whelps.

>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.

>>

>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,

>> unfortunately.

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

Whine, whine, whine...

 

Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of ourselves,

our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you whine about is a

direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.

 

No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get up and

out of the way of history, whatever its course.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!

>

> Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over all

> time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has been NO

> change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal accountability,

> in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of

> lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of

> neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote

> that).

>

> ROFL.

>

> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then realized

>> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably thought

>> the

>> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little

>> angel,

>> they were at least saying the same things about young people in general.

>> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short skirts

>> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the

>> "responsible"

>> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting

>> was

>> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?

>>

>> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is

>> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This would

>> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who have

>> been

>> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That

>> means

>> policy maker in the Federal government.)

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> dadiOH wrote:

>>>> MEB wrote:

>>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

>>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

>>>>>

>>>>> Whatcha tink???

>>>>

>>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental effort

>>>> to

>>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco

>>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance of

>>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's

>>>> whelps.

>>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.

>>>

>>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,

>>> unfortunately.

>

>

[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

No worries. The (now irreversible) manmade global warming will resolve

mankind's BS, once and for all (including ALL wars and famine, and other

idiocies), but not in our lifetime. But in the end, justice will be

served, and "we" will reap what we have sowed. I find there is some

consolation in knowing that.

 

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> Whine, whine, whine...

>

> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of

> ourselves,

> our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you whine about is a

> direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.

>

> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get up and

> out of the way of history, whatever its course.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!

>>

>> Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over all

>> time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has been NO

>> change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal accountability,

>> in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of

>> lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of

>> neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote

>> that).

>>

>> ROFL.

>>

>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then realized

>>> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably thought

>>> the

>>> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little

>>> angel,

>>> they were at least saying the same things about young people in general.

>>> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short

>>> skirts

>>> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the

>>> "responsible"

>>> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting

>>> was

>>> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?

>>>

>>> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is

>>> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This

>>> would

>>> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who have

>>> been

>>> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That

>>> means

>>> policy maker in the Federal government.)

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> dadiOH wrote:

>>>>> MEB wrote:

>>>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

>>>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Whatcha tink???

>>>>>

>>>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental

>>>>> effort

>>>>> to

>>>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco

>>>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance of

>>>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's

>>>>> whelps.

>>>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.

>>>>

>>>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,

>>>> unfortunately.

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

While I agree with your prognosis 100%, I find no consolation at all. I feel

nothing but unutterable guilt.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:uLMbGfM2IHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> No worries. The (now irreversible) manmade global warming will resolve

> mankind's BS, once and for all (including ALL wars and famine, and other

> idiocies), but not in our lifetime. But in the end, justice will be

> served, and "we" will reap what we have sowed. I find there is some

> consolation in knowing that.

>

> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> Whine, whine, whine...

>>

>> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of

>> ourselves,

>> our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you whine about is a

>> direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.

>>

>> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get up

>> and

>> out of the way of history, whatever its course.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!

>>>

>>> Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over all

>>> time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has been

>>> NO

>>> change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal accountability,

>>> in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of

>>> lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of

>>> neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote

>>> that).

>>>

>>> ROFL.

>>>

>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then

>>>> realized

>>>> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably

>>>> thought

>>>> the

>>>> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little

>>>> angel,

>>>> they were at least saying the same things about young people in

>>>> general.

>>>> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short

>>>> skirts

>>>> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the

>>>> "responsible"

>>>> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting

>>>> was

>>>> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?

>>>>

>>>> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is

>>>> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This

>>>> would

>>>> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who have

>>>> been

>>>> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That

>>>> means

>>>> policy maker in the Federal government.)

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>>

>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> dadiOH wrote:

>>>>>> MEB wrote:

>>>>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

>>>>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Whatcha tink???

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental

>>>>>> effort

>>>>>> to

>>>>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco

>>>>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance

>>>>>> of

>>>>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's

>>>>>> whelps.

>>>>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.

>>>>>

>>>>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,

>>>>> unfortunately.

>

>

[Guest Jim]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

Sort of like the movie "Wild in the Streets". Everybody over age thirty is

sent to the old age camps where they make A-bombs on LSD served in Dixie

cups. The movie ends with long haired youths standing on the bluffs of

Katowice or Nowa Huta.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:uNwiOoL2IHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Whine, whine, whine...

>

> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of

ourselves,

> our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you whine about is a

> direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.

>

> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get up and

> out of the way of history, whatever its course.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!

> >

> > Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over all

> > time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has been

NO

> > change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal accountability,

> > in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of

> > lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of

> > neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote

> > that).

> >

> > ROFL.

> >

> > Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> >> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then

realized

> >> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably

thought

> >> the

> >> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little

> >> angel,

> >> they were at least saying the same things about young people in

general.

> >> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short

skirts

> >> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the

> >> "responsible"

> >> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting

> >> was

> >> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?

> >>

> >> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is

> >> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This

would

> >> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who have

> >> been

> >> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That

> >> means

> >> policy maker in the Federal government.)

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> http://grystmill.com

> >>

> >> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> >> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >>> dadiOH wrote:

> >>>> MEB wrote:

> >>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

> >>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Whatcha tink???

> >>>>

> >>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental

effort

> >>>> to

> >>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco

> >>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance

of

> >>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's

> >>>> whelps.

> >>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.

> >>>

> >>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,

> >>> unfortunately.

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

[GAry was in that movie! <eg>]

 

Jim wrote:

> Sort of like the movie "Wild in the Streets". Everybody over age thirty is

> sent to the old age camps where they make A-bombs on LSD served in Dixie

> cups. The movie ends with long haired youths standing on the bluffs of

> Katowice or Nowa Huta.

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:uNwiOoL2IHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Whine, whine, whine...

>>

>> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of

>> ourselves, our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you whine

>> about is a direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.

>>

>> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get up

>> and

>> out of the way of history, whatever its course.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!

>>>

>>> Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over all

>>> time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has been

>>> NO

>>> change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal accountability,

>>> in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of

>>> lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of

>>> neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote

>>> that).

>>>

>>> ROFL.

>>>

>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then

>>>> realized

>>>> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably

>>>> thought

>>>> the

>>>> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little

>>>> angel,

>>>> they were at least saying the same things about young people in

>>>> general.

>>>> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short

>>>> skirts

>>>> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the

>>>> "responsible"

>>>> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting

>>>> was

>>>> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?

>>>>

>>>> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is

>>>> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This

>>>> would

>>>> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who have

>>>> been

>>>> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That

>>>> means

>>>> policy maker in the Federal government.)

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>>

>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> dadiOH wrote:

>>>>>> MEB wrote:

>>>>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

>>>>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Whatcha tink???

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental

>>>>>> effort

>>>>>> to

>>>>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco

>>>>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance

>>>>>> of

>>>>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's

>>>>>> whelps.

>>>>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.

>>>>>

>>>>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,

>>>>> unfortunately.

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

Gonna have to look that one up.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

news:%23$qelhM2IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Sort of like the movie "Wild in the Streets". Everybody over age thirty is

> sent to the old age camps where they make A-bombs on LSD served in Dixie

> cups. The movie ends with long haired youths standing on the bluffs of

> Katowice or Nowa Huta.

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:uNwiOoL2IHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Whine, whine, whine...

>>

>> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of

> ourselves,

>> our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you whine about is a

>> direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.

>>

>> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get up

>> and

>> out of the way of history, whatever its course.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> > These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!

>> >

>> > Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over

>> > all

>> > time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has been

> NO

>> > change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal

>> > accountability,

>> > in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of

>> > lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of

>> > neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote

>> > that).

>> >

>> > ROFL.

>> >

>> > Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> >> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then

> realized

>> >> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably

> thought

>> >> the

>> >> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little

>> >> angel,

>> >> they were at least saying the same things about young people in

> general.

>> >> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short

> skirts

>> >> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the

>> >> "responsible"

>> >> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting

>> >> was

>> >> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?

>> >>

>> >> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is

>> >> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This

> would

>> >> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who

>> >> have

>> >> been

>> >> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That

>> >> means

>> >> policy maker in the Federal government.)

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> http://grystmill.com

>> >>

>> >> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>> >> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >>> dadiOH wrote:

>> >>>> MEB wrote:

>> >>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

>> >>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> Whatcha tink???

>> >>>>

>> >>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental

> effort

>> >>>> to

>> >>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco

>> >>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance

> of

>> >>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's

>> >>>> whelps.

>> >>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.

>> >>>

>> >>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,

>> >>> unfortunately.

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>

>

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

Ahhh... So that's why I can't remember it.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:OpAQfsN2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> [GAry was in that movie! <eg>]

>

> Jim wrote:

>> Sort of like the movie "Wild in the Streets". Everybody over age thirty

>> is

>> sent to the old age camps where they make A-bombs on LSD served in Dixie

>> cups. The movie ends with long haired youths standing on the bluffs of

>> Katowice or Nowa Huta.

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:uNwiOoL2IHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Whine, whine, whine...

>>>

>>> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of

>>> ourselves, our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you whine

>>> about is a direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.

>>>

>>> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get up

>>> and

>>> out of the way of history, whatever its course.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!

>>>>

>>>> Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over

>>>> all

>>>> time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has been

>>>> NO

>>>> change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal

>>>> accountability,

>>>> in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of

>>>> lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of

>>>> neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote

>>>> that).

>>>>

>>>> ROFL.

>>>>

>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>>> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then

>>>>> realized

>>>>> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably

>>>>> thought

>>>>> the

>>>>> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little

>>>>> angel,

>>>>> they were at least saying the same things about young people in

>>>>> general.

>>>>> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short

>>>>> skirts

>>>>> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the

>>>>> "responsible"

>>>>> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and blacklisting

>>>>> was

>>>>> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?

>>>>>

>>>>> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is

>>>>> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This

>>>>> would

>>>>> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who

>>>>> have

>>>>> been

>>>>> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That

>>>>> means

>>>>> policy maker in the Federal government.)

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>>>

>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> dadiOH wrote:

>>>>>>> MEB wrote:

>>>>>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

>>>>>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Whatcha tink???

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental

>>>>>>> effort

>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco

>>>>>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance

>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's

>>>>>>> whelps.

>>>>>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades ago,

>>>>>> unfortunately.

>

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

Your torrid off-screen affair with Shelley Winters was the talk of the town!

Hal Holbrook and Ed Begley (Sr.) were green with envy...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063808/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063808/plotsummary

 

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> Ahhh... So that's why I can't remember it.

>

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:OpAQfsN2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> [GAry was in that movie! <eg>]

>>

>> Jim wrote:

>>> Sort of like the movie "Wild in the Streets". Everybody over age thirty

>>> is

>>> sent to the old age camps where they make A-bombs on LSD served in Dixie

>>> cups. The movie ends with long haired youths standing on the bluffs of

>>> Katowice or Nowa Huta.

>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>> news:uNwiOoL2IHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> Whine, whine, whine...

>>>>

>>>> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of

>>>> ourselves, our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you whine

>>>> about is a direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.

>>>>

>>>> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get up

>>>> and

>>>> out of the way of history, whatever its course.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>>

>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!

>>>>>

>>>>> Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over

>>>>> all

>>>>> time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has been

>>>>> NO

>>>>> change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal

>>>>> accountability,

>>>>> in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of

>>>>> lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of

>>>>> neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote

>>>>> that).

>>>>>

>>>>> ROFL.

>>>>>

>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>>>> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then

>>>>>> realized

>>>>>> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably

>>>>>> thought

>>>>>> the

>>>>>> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a little

>>>>>> angel,

>>>>>> they were at least saying the same things about young people in

>>>>>> general.

>>>>>> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short

>>>>>> skirts

>>>>>> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the

>>>>>> "responsible"

>>>>>> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and

>>>>>> blacklisting

>>>>>> was

>>>>>> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is

>>>>>> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This

>>>>>> would

>>>>>> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who

>>>>>> have

>>>>>> been

>>>>>> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That

>>>>>> means

>>>>>> policy maker in the Federal government.)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> dadiOH wrote:

>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

>>>>>>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Whatcha tink???

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental

>>>>>>>> effort

>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco

>>>>>>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little acceptance

>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's

>>>>>>>> whelps.

>>>>>>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades

>>>>>>> ago,

>>>>>>> unfortunately.

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

LOL!

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:OF82bYT2IHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Your torrid off-screen affair with Shelley Winters was the talk of the

> town! Hal Holbrook and Ed Begley (Sr.) were green with envy...

> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063808/

> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063808/plotsummary

>

> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> Ahhh... So that's why I can't remember it.

>>

>>

>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:OpAQfsN2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> [GAry was in that movie! <eg>]

>>>

>>> Jim wrote:

>>>> Sort of like the movie "Wild in the Streets". Everybody over age thirty

>>>> is

>>>> sent to the old age camps where they make A-bombs on LSD served in

>>>> Dixie

>>>> cups. The movie ends with long haired youths standing on the bluffs of

>>>> Katowice or Nowa Huta.

>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>> news:uNwiOoL2IHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Whine, whine, whine...

>>>>>

>>>>> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of

>>>>> ourselves, our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you whine

>>>>> about is a direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.

>>>>>

>>>>> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get up

>>>>> and

>>>>> out of the way of history, whatever its course.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>>>

>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over

>>>>>> all

>>>>>> time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has

>>>>>> been

>>>>>> NO

>>>>>> change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal

>>>>>> accountability,

>>>>>> in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of

>>>>>> lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of

>>>>>> neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I wrote

>>>>>> that).

>>>>>>

>>>>>> ROFL.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>>>>> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then

>>>>>>> realized

>>>>>>> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably

>>>>>>> thought

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a

>>>>>>> little

>>>>>>> angel,

>>>>>>> they were at least saying the same things about young people in

>>>>>>> general.

>>>>>>> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short

>>>>>>> skirts

>>>>>>> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the

>>>>>>> "responsible"

>>>>>>> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and

>>>>>>> blacklisting

>>>>>>> was

>>>>>>> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is

>>>>>>> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This

>>>>>>> would

>>>>>>> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who

>>>>>>> have

>>>>>>> been

>>>>>>> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age. (That

>>>>>>> means

>>>>>>> policy maker in the Federal government.)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> dadiOH wrote:

>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

>>>>>>>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Whatcha tink???

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental

>>>>>>>>> effort

>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco

>>>>>>>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little

>>>>>>>>> acceptance

>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's

>>>>>>>>> whelps.

>>>>>>>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many people.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades

>>>>>>>> ago,

>>>>>>>> unfortunately.

>

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

[This NG and you needed a little levity.]

 

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> LOL!

>

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:OF82bYT2IHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Your torrid off-screen affair with Shelley Winters was the talk of the

>> town! Hal Holbrook and Ed Begley (Sr.) were green with envy...

>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063808/

>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063808/plotsummary

>>

>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>> Ahhh... So that's why I can't remember it.

>>>

>>>

>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:OpAQfsN2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> [GAry was in that movie! <eg>]

>>>>

>>>> Jim wrote:

>>>>> Sort of like the movie "Wild in the Streets". Everybody over age

>>>>> thirty

>>>>> is

>>>>> sent to the old age camps where they make A-bombs on LSD served in

>>>>> Dixie

>>>>> cups. The movie ends with long haired youths standing on the bluffs

>>>>> of

>>>>> Katowice or Nowa Huta.

>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>> news:uNwiOoL2IHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Whine, whine, whine...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of

>>>>>> ourselves, our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you

>>>>>> whine

>>>>>> about is a direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get

>>>>>> up

>>>>>> and

>>>>>> out of the way of history, whatever its course.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations over

>>>>>>> all

>>>>>>> time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there has

>>>>>>> been

>>>>>>> NO

>>>>>>> change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal

>>>>>>> accountability,

>>>>>>> in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of

>>>>>>> lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of

>>>>>>> neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I

>>>>>>> wrote

>>>>>>> that).

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> ROFL.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>>>>>> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then

>>>>>>>> realized

>>>>>>>> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably

>>>>>>>> thought

>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a

>>>>>>>> little

>>>>>>>> angel,

>>>>>>>> they were at least saying the same things about young people in

>>>>>>>> general.

>>>>>>>> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short

>>>>>>>> skirts

>>>>>>>> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the

>>>>>>>> "responsible"

>>>>>>>> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and

>>>>>>>> blacklisting

>>>>>>>> was

>>>>>>>> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is

>>>>>>>> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65. This

>>>>>>>> would

>>>>>>>> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who

>>>>>>>> have

>>>>>>>> been

>>>>>>>> stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of their age.

>>>>>>>> (That

>>>>>>>> means

>>>>>>>> policy maker in the Federal government.)

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> dadiOH wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

>>>>>>>>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Whatcha tink???

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental

>>>>>>>>>> effort

>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in loco

>>>>>>>>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little

>>>>>>>>>> acceptance

>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>> responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to one's

>>>>>>>>>> whelps.

>>>>>>>>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many

>>>>>>>>>> people.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades

>>>>>>>>> ago,

>>>>>>>>> unfortunately.

[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

I already provided some. (Well, a bit more than that, but, whatever).

 

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

> [This NG and you needed a little levity.]

>

> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> LOL!

>>

>>

>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:OF82bYT2IHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Your torrid off-screen affair with Shelley Winters was the talk of the

>>> town! Hal Holbrook and Ed Begley (Sr.) were green with envy...

>>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063808/

>>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063808/plotsummary

>>>

>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>> Ahhh... So that's why I can't remember it.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:OpAQfsN2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> [GAry was in that movie! <eg>]

>>>>>

>>>>> Jim wrote:

>>>>>> Sort of like the movie "Wild in the Streets". Everybody over age

>>>>>> thirty is

>>>>>> sent to the old age camps where they make A-bombs on LSD served in

>>>>>> Dixie cups. The movie ends with long haired youths standing on the

>>>>>> bluffs

>>>>>> of Katowice or Nowa Huta.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:uNwiOoL2IHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Whine, whine, whine...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Most of what you whine about is a direct result of the actions of

>>>>>>> ourselves, our parents, and their parents, etc. Much of what you

>>>>>>> whine about is a direct result of Reaganomics, frankly.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> No, the problem is that people live too long these days. Oughta get

>>>>>>> up and out of the way of history, whatever its course.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:ed1f88J2IHA.5564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> These damn youngins don't understand nothin!!

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Of course, Gary, you are right in your "extensive" observations

>>>>>>>> over

>>>>>>>> all time (as limited as that time frame is). And, indeed, there

>>>>>>>> has been

>>>>>>>> NO change whatsover in personal responsibility and personal

>>>>>>>> accountability,

>>>>>>>> in blaming others for everything under the sun (and the plethora of

>>>>>>>> lawsuits today), the loss of the two parent homes, the loss of

>>>>>>>> neighborhoods, etc, etc. (I probably was just on acid when I

>>>>>>>> wrote that).

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> ROFL.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>>>>>>> What a bunch of whiny old farts (I' first wrote women, but then

>>>>>>>>> realized

>>>>>>>>> what an insult that was to the fairer sex.) Your elders probably

>>>>>>>>> thought the

>>>>>>>>> same of you when you were 20. Or, if you happen to have been a

>>>>>>>>> little angel,

>>>>>>>>> they were at least saying the same things about young people in

>>>>>>>>> general.

>>>>>>>>> What was that, around the time of rock & roll, shaking hips, short

>>>>>>>>> skirts

>>>>>>>>> and sweaters? Or are you older than that? Isn't that when the

>>>>>>>>> "responsible"

>>>>>>>>> people were calling everyone and their cat communists and

>>>>>>>>> blacklisting was

>>>>>>>>> so popular? Real responsible adults we had back then, eh?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I think there are too many old farts in the world, the world is

>>>>>>>>> overpopulated... I say mandatory death for everyone at age 65.

>>>>>>>>> This

>>>>>>>>> would

>>>>>>>>> also solve the Social Security "problem", though the criminals who

>>>>>>>>> have been stealing the SS fund should go first, regardless of

>>>>>>>>> their age.

>>>>>>>>> (That means policy maker in the Federal government.)

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:eQzM6y81IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> dadiOH wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

>>>>>>>>>>>> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Whatcha tink???

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I think that there is too much official/third party/governmental

>>>>>>>>>>> effort to

>>>>>>>>>>> control the ill manners of some people. Waaaay too much "in

>>>>>>>>>>> loco

>>>>>>>>>>> parentis"...too much blathering about rights, too little

>>>>>>>>>>> acceptance

>>>>>>>>>>> of responsibility. Responsibility such as teaching manners to

>>>>>>>>>>> one's

>>>>>>>>>>> whelps.

>>>>>>>>>>> Much of the problem arises because there are just too many

>>>>>>>>>>> people.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Personal responsibility went out (in large part) several decades

>>>>>>>>>> ago, unfortunately.

[Guest nick]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM technology,

> seems intent on extending device control.

>

> Whatcha tink???

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

 

 

meb,, i always warmed myself to your thoughts and how you showed certain blogs in order to make ppl

wake up and take a look around....... now, due to my respect for you, i have to ask if you have

read the book full of information beyond comparison to what mere humans can come up with?

have you? the secrets within are of far more importance than any military ones,, far

more important than those of politics in general, in fact, the secret of life is held tween the

lines.

shouldnt we first seek these out, before fussing about the mere stupidity of what man does with his

knowledge..... god forbid we think like gst.

faith is a word that repels most, yet if you understand its value, it out-weighs fort-knox a

quadtrillion zillion billion times,, but the price to pay for having it, is understanding it.

 

just my thought.

[Guest MEB]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

In news:uzBOkQe2IHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl at ,

nick contemplated and posted:

|> Hmm, seems Microsoft may not be content with the present DRM

|> technology, seems intent on extending device control.

|>

|> Whatcha tink???

|> MEB

|> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

|

|

| meb,, i always warmed myself to your thoughts and how you showed

| certain blogs in order to make ppl wake up and take a look

| around....... now, due to my respect for you, i have to ask if you

| have read the book full of information beyond comparison to what mere

| humans can come up with?

| have you? the secrets within are of far more importance

| than any military ones,, far more important than those of politics

| in general, in fact, the secret of life is held tween the lines.

| shouldnt we first seek these out, before fussing about the mere

| stupidity of what man does with his knowledge..... god forbid we

| think like gst.

| faith is a word that repels most, yet if you understand its value, it

| out-weighs fort-knox a quadtrillion zillion billion times,, but

| the price to pay for having it, is understanding it.

|

| just my thought.

 

And which book "full of information beyond comparison" would you be

referring to,,, let me guess,, you think its the Christian Bible, so which

version is the correct one or is it the Jewish "Bible"...

Have you bothered to read the more ancient religious tomes of other

religions, or any other religious directive "manuals" {Bibles}. If not, then

you know less about man than you think, and certainly less about *man's

created* Gods... I have, here's the secrets, they are BOOKS and writings by

men attempting to explain the unknowns of the era and man's relationships.

Their value lay in the general direction towards man's need to be "nice" to

himself and his world, and the attempts to understand HOW to balance these.

The writings of *future views* related to man and this world {premonitions

if you must} hold more value. Many contain predictive writings, which were

written as religious based documents mearly to protect the author from

being subjected to the wrath of religious leaders and controls. THESE are of

more intrisic value to man; one, for study of these *abilities* in man; two,

for their content. One must always remember that religions WERE the LAW of

man during those religious periods, generally outweighing any other of man's

laws, and speaking and/or writing AGAINST the religion was death, stoning,

exclusion, or other, for.those those OUTSIDE the religion.

Unless YOU spend some time studying man's creations [all these historical

*religious* writings], weighing them against each other for "sense", value,

and against what man HAS discovered, you know nothing more than people did

three thousand, ten thousand, twenty thousand years ago. Instead you have

something less, preconcieved notions based upon lack of knowledge and

ignorance. To say one religion IS THE ANSWER over others is ludicrous, that

isn't faith, that's reliance upon invisible "friends" and prejudice.

 

AFTER *YOU* study these tomes and writings, come back and seek me out..

perhaps we can have an intelligent discussion. Until then, keep your

religious meanderings in the forums devoted to them.

 

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

[Guest Jim]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

It was one of those blacklisted revolutionary films of the 1970's. cica 74

or 75. Another neat scene was when the president of this mess was 29 going

on 30 and he steps on the pet crawdad of some 13 year old...how the kid

looks up and sneers in pure hatred of the older generation knowing he is

gonna get his real soon.

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:uzR2%23pN2IHA.5728@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Gonna have to look that one up.

>

[Guest dadiOH]

Re: Microsoft Sets Up Digital Manners Police

 

MEB wrote:

> To say one

> religion IS THE ANSWER over others is ludicrous,

 

Especially since all are very similar.

____________

> that isn't faith,

> that's reliance upon invisible "friends" and prejudice.

 

And believing without question that which (supposedly) more knowledgeable

people like parents and teachers/preachers tell you. Same for Santa Claus.

 

--

 

dadiOH

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