Win 98 Firefox Users Should Consider Opera 9.27

[Guest smith]

Now that Firefox has dropped Win 98 support and any claim of

being a multi-platform browser, Win 98 users should consider

Opera.

 

The new version, 9.50, is not stable, and I would not recommend

it. However, the preceding stable version, 9.27, works fine, and

I can recommend it.

 

Opera 9.27 has file extensions for cache files, and you can

easily work the cache with an ordinary file manager. They

dropped the extensions 9.50 only to be met by a chorus of boos

from users. See

http://groups.google.com/group/opera.general/browse_thread/thread

/ed7b283c48d2be3f/35dff7608561bf99?lnk=gst&q=cache#35dff7608561bf

99

[Guest Dan]

RE: Win 98 Firefox Users Should Consider Opera 9.27

 

This is not correct information. Mozilla Firefox 2.0.x is still being

updated and supports Windows 98/98SE. Mozilla Firefox 3 does not support

98/98SE. Please do not jump to conclusions without fully researching your

work as I have gotten better at doing. Windows 98/98SE support will end when

Firefox 2.0.x support ends unless Mozilla changes their mind. Remember

nothing is certain yet until it happens.

 

"smith" wrote:

> Now that Firefox has dropped Win 98 support and any claim of

> being a multi-platform browser, Win 98 users should consider

> Opera.

>

> The new version, 9.50, is not stable, and I would not recommend

> it. However, the preceding stable version, 9.27, works fine, and

> I can recommend it.

>

> Opera 9.27 has file extensions for cache files, and you can

> easily work the cache with an ordinary file manager. They

> dropped the extensions 9.50 only to be met by a chorus of boos

> from users. See

> http://groups.google.com/group/opera.general/browse_thread/thread

> /ed7b283c48d2be3f/35dff7608561bf99?lnk=gst&q=cache#35dff7608561bf

> 99

>

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Win 98 Firefox Users Should Consider Opera 9.27

 

Thanks for sharing, <yawn>.

 

How come your links get broken in my Outlook Express? Do they also get

broken in your own Xnews reader? Does this link stay intact for you?

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6&DisplayLang=en

 

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http://grystmill.com

 

"smith" <smith@no-spam.com> wrote in message

news:O$n3nDu2IHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Now that Firefox has dropped Win 98 support and any claim of

> being a multi-platform browser, Win 98 users should consider

> Opera.

>

> The new version, 9.50, is not stable, and I would not recommend

> it. However, the preceding stable version, 9.27, works fine, and

> I can recommend it.

>

> Opera 9.27 has file extensions for cache files, and you can

> easily work the cache with an ordinary file manager. They

> dropped the extensions 9.50 only to be met by a chorus of boos

> from users. See

> http://groups.google.com/group/opera.general/browse_thread/thread

> /ed7b283c48d2be3f/35dff7608561bf99?lnk=gst&q=cache#35dff7608561bf

> 99

[Guest pixturesk@gmail.com]

Re: Win 98 Firefox Users Should Consider Opera 9.27

 

On Jun 30, 2:41 pm, smith <sm...@no-spam.com> wrote:

> Now that Firefox has dropped Win 98 support and any claim of

> being a multi-platform browser, Win 98 users should consider

> Opera.

>

> The new version, 9.50, is not stable, and I would not recommend

> it. However, the preceding stable version, 9.27, works fine, and

> I can recommend it.

>

> Opera 9.27 has file extensions for cache files, and you can

> easily work the cache with an ordinary file manager. They

> dropped the extensions 9.50 only to be met by a chorus of boos

> from users. Seehttp://groups.google.com/group/opera.general/browse_thread/thread/ed7...

> 99

 

I will continue to use Firefox 2.0.0.14 even after they stop support.

Just as I also have IE6 SP1, because IE7 cannot run on98SE. Opera is

not an option for me because it's not match for Firefox. With all my

protection software, I think that running Firefox 2.0.0.14 will still

be quite safe.

[Guest Angus Rodgers]

Re: Win 98 Firefox Users Should Consider Opera 9.27

 

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:13:11 -0700, Dan

<Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>This is not correct information. Mozilla Firefox 2.0.x is still being

>updated and supports Windows 98/98SE.

 

Indeed, 2.0.0.14 has just been updated to 2.0.0.15.

 

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Contains mild peril

[Guest pixturesk@gmail.com]

Re: Win 98 Firefox Users Should Consider Opera 9.27

 

On Jul 2, 10:49 am, Angus Rodgers <twir...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:13:11 -0700, Dan

>

> <D...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> >This is not correct information. Mozilla Firefox 2.0.x is still being

> >updated and supports Windows 98/98SE.

>

> Indeed, 2.0.0.14 has just been updated to 2.0.0.15.

>

> --

> Angus Rodgers

> (twirlip@ eats spam; reply to angusrod@)

> Contains mild peril

 

I just installed the 2.0.0.15 update, rather I let Mozilla install it

for me, always works that way.

[Guest Angus Rodgers]

Re: Win 98 Firefox Users Should Consider Opera 9.27

 

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:13:11 -0700, Dan

<Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>This is not correct information. Mozilla Firefox 2.0.x is still being

>updated and supports Windows 98/98SE. Mozilla Firefox 3 does not support

>98/98SE. Please do not jump to conclusions without fully researching your

>work as I have gotten better at doing. Windows 98/98SE support will end when

>Firefox 2.0.x support ends unless Mozilla changes their mind. Remember

>nothing is certain yet until it happens.

 

I don't know if this is a new page at the Mozilla website, but I

hadn't seen it before today:

 

<http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html>

 

"Firefox 2.0.0.x will be maintained with security and stability

updates until mid-December, 2008. All users are strongly encouraged

to upgrade to Firefox 3."

 

(I also hadn't realised there was a fully localised "English (British)"

installer for Firefox 2.)

 

--

Angus Rodgers

(twirlip@ eats spam; reply to angusrod@)

Contains mild peril

[Guest Dan]

Re: Win 98 Firefox Users Should Consider Opera 9.27

 

Thanks for the information. It appears that 98(SE) users will have until

around the end of 2008 to find a solution to which browser they should use

next or if they will just remain with an old version of Firefox. I guess if

you have a proper multi-layered safety and security solution then you should

be fairly safe on the 'Net even with older technology but remember not to

expect the level of support that you will get from Microsoft or others to be

as good as the support that they will or at least should give you for newer

products like XP or Vista.

 

"Angus Rodgers" wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:13:11 -0700, Dan

> <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>

> >This is not correct information. Mozilla Firefox 2.0.x is still being

> >updated and supports Windows 98/98SE. Mozilla Firefox 3 does not support

> >98/98SE. Please do not jump to conclusions without fully researching your

> >work as I have gotten better at doing. Windows 98/98SE support will end when

> >Firefox 2.0.x support ends unless Mozilla changes their mind. Remember

> >nothing is certain yet until it happens.

>

> I don't know if this is a new page at the Mozilla website, but I

> hadn't seen it before today:

>

> <http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html>

>

> "Firefox 2.0.0.x will be maintained with security and stability

> updates until mid-December, 2008. All users are strongly encouraged

> to upgrade to Firefox 3."

>

> (I also hadn't realised there was a fully localised "English (British)"

> installer for Firefox 2.)

>

> --

> Angus Rodgers

> (twirlip@ eats spam; reply to angusrod@)

> Contains mild peril

>

[Guest glass]

Re: Win 98 Firefox Users Should Consider Opera 9.27

 

 

"Dan" > This is not correct information. Mozilla Firefox 2.0.x is still being

> updated and supports Windows 98/98SE. Mozilla Firefox 3 does not support

> 98/98SE. Please do not jump to conclusions without fully researching your

> work as I have gotten better at doing. Windows 98/98SE support will end when

> Firefox 2.0.x support ends unless Mozilla changes their mind. Remember

> nothing is certain yet until it happens.

 

 

i am still using V1.8..... and it just steams along. the only reason i havent updated any

firefox version, is because they dont support my down-load manager...... 'star downloader',,,

for now, i'm more than happy.......(anything but use ms's ie,, sheeeeeeeesh.)

[Guest Franc Zabkar]

Re: Win 98 Firefox Users Should Consider Opera 9.27

 

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:41:26 -0700, smith <smith@no-spam.com> put

finger to keyboard and composed:

>Now that Firefox has dropped Win 98 support and any claim of

>being a multi-platform browser, Win 98 users should consider

>Opera.

>

>The new version, 9.50, is not stable, and I would not recommend

>it. However, the preceding stable version, 9.27, works fine, and

>I can recommend it.

>

>Opera 9.27 has file extensions for cache files, and you can

>easily work the cache with an ordinary file manager. They

>dropped the extensions 9.50 only to be met by a chorus of boos

>from users. See

>http://groups.google.com/group/opera.general/browse_thread/thread

>/ed7b283c48d2be3f/35dff7608561bf99?lnk=gst&q=cache#35dff7608561bf

>99

 

Version 9.51 has just been released. It fixes the very bad resource

leak in the Transfers window.

 

For those web sites not bogged down in Java or JS, etc, I second

thanatoid's past recommendations in respect of OffByOne:

 

http://www.offbyone.com/

 

It is lightning fast on my old socket 7 box, and I use it in

preference to Opera when I am directed to ad-infested web sites, such

as those hosting old forum threads, or news articles. In fact it is

quicker to launch OffByOne and go to the URL than it is to wait for

Opera to download and render it, even with images disabled.

 

- Franc Zabkar

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[Guest glass]

Re: Win 98 Firefox Users Should Consider Opera 9.27

 

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:exb$DTw2IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Thanks for sharing, <yawn>.

 

Yaaaaaaawwwwwnnnn,,, yoouuurn welcome, hope it made your day.

[Guest Franc Zabkar]

Re: Win 98 Firefox Users Should Consider Opera 9.27

 

On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 15:55:53 +1000, Franc Zabkar

<fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:41:26 -0700, smith <smith@no-spam.com> put

>finger to keyboard and composed:

>

>>Now that Firefox has dropped Win 98 support and any claim of

>>being a multi-platform browser, Win 98 users should consider

>>Opera.

>>

>>The new version, 9.50, is not stable, and I would not recommend

>>it. However, the preceding stable version, 9.27, works fine, and

>>I can recommend it.

>Version 9.51 has just been released. It fixes the very bad resource

>leak in the Transfers window.

 

Unfortunately there appear to be other serious resource problems. See

the current discussions at the opera.general newsgroup.

 

- Franc Zabkar

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[Guest Franc Zabkar]

Re: Win 98 Firefox Users Should Consider Opera 9.27

 

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:41:26 -0700, smith <smith@no-spam.com> put

finger to keyboard and composed:

>Now that Firefox has dropped Win 98 support and any claim of

>being a multi-platform browser, Win 98 users should consider

>Opera.

>

>The new version, 9.50, is not stable, and I would not recommend

>it. However, the preceding stable version, 9.27, works fine, and

>I can recommend it.

>

>Opera 9.27 has file extensions for cache files, and you can

>easily work the cache with an ordinary file manager. They

>dropped the extensions 9.50 only to be met by a chorus of boos

>from users. See

>http://groups.google.com/group/opera.general/browse_thread/thread

>/ed7b283c48d2be3f/35dff7608561bf99?lnk=gst&q=cache#35dff7608561bf

>99

 

I have just customised my Opera menu to allow me to direct problematic

URLs to alternative browsers including IE, Firefox, and OffByOne.

 

Opera 7+ users can copy the following file to their Opera\profile\menu

directory:

http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/my_menu.ini

 

Then in Opera, go to Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Toolbars and

select "My menu prefs". This does not override the existing menu, it

just supplements it with minor additions.

 

You will now be provided with a choice of alternative browsers when

you r-click a link, or when you r-click the page.

 

I wonder if IE or Firefox could be customised in the same way.

 

- Franc Zabkar

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[Guest Dan]

Re: Win 98 Firefox Users Should Consider Opera 9.27

 

Unfortunately, from a safety and a security standpoint, I think Opera only

supports 128 bit maximum cipher strength unless this has been upgraded

recently to 256 bit cipher strength

 

Mozilla Firefox --- Windows 98 Second Edition and on --- 256 mix AES

encryption standard supported (I don't know about Windows 98 first edition

--- 1998 --- because I need to use USB)

 

Internet Explorer --- (Supports 256 bit AES encryption in Windows Vista but

not Windows XP Professional and no plans to do this sadly enough according to

Microsoft information provided at Microsoft Public Newsgroups)

 

The web sites are also getting lazy because of a lack of attacks on 128 bit

RC4 cipher strength. For example, Google Gmail now only gives you maximum of

128 bit RC4 cipher downgraded from 256 bit AES cipher strength

 

Yahoo Email --- to their credit continue to support 256 bit AES (Advanced

Encryption Standard) in their Yahoo email when using Mozilla Firefox --- not

sure yet about Windows Vista --- have not research it enough

 

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"Franc Zabkar" wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:41:26 -0700, smith <smith@no-spam.com> put

> finger to keyboard and composed:

>

> >Now that Firefox has dropped Win 98 support and any claim of

> >being a multi-platform browser, Win 98 users should consider

> >Opera.

> >

> >The new version, 9.50, is not stable, and I would not recommend

> >it. However, the preceding stable version, 9.27, works fine, and

> >I can recommend it.

> >

> >Opera 9.27 has file extensions for cache files, and you can

> >easily work the cache with an ordinary file manager. They

> >dropped the extensions 9.50 only to be met by a chorus of boos

> >from users. See

> >http://groups.google.com/group/opera.general/browse_thread/thread

> >/ed7b283c48d2be3f/35dff7608561bf99?lnk=gst&q=cache#35dff7608561bf

> >99

>

> I have just customised my Opera menu to allow me to direct problematic

> URLs to alternative browsers including IE, Firefox, and OffByOne.

>

> Opera 7+ users can copy the following file to their Opera\profile\menu

> directory:

> http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/my_menu.ini

>

> Then in Opera, go to Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Toolbars and

> select "My menu prefs". This does not override the existing menu, it

> just supplements it with minor additions.

>

> You will now be provided with a choice of alternative browsers when

> you r-click a link, or when you r-click the page.

>

> I wonder if IE or Firefox could be customised in the same way.

>

> - Franc Zabkar

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>