Guest Markus Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 I have downloaded and installed MS Virtual Server (VS) 2005 on a PC running XP Pro SP2. I have an application that has been running on a LAN for some time. My goal is to test this app running over the Internet using Terminal Services (TS). I am a bit of a beginner to some of these issues, so apologize for any basic questions, and appreciate any and all help. To start, I have a very basic question: I understand I can set up multiple server environments or configurations to conduct testing using VS. Does this mean I must download and install Server 2003 on a virtual machine I first setup in VS? That is, do I need to obtain these other OS to do my testing? Also, and I hope this is not too much to ask, but now that I have VS and IIS installed on my XP Pro machine, it is unclear what my next step is to set up a testing environment to test using TS to connect to this server. Can anyone point me to the documentation which would help me with this TS setup? Thanks in advance for any and all help on this, Mark
Guest Phillip Windell Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 Re: Setting up MS Virtual Server 2005 "Markus" <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0D88797B-963B-4DB1-B1D6-5137BB79E4C0@microsoft.com... >I have downloaded and installed MS Virtual Server (VS) 2005 on a PC running > XP Pro SP2. I have an application that has been running on a LAN for some > time. My goal is to test this app running over the Internet using > Terminal > Services (TS). > For a Host machine with XP or Vista you need to download and install *Virtual PC* (not virtual Server) For Server2003 and Server2003R2 (not sure if it run on Windows2000) you need to download and install Virtual Server. The rest of your questions are too broad for me. You will have to check out the documentation, then come back and ask specific questions about specific things. The Virtual PC Console has the documentation built into the Help. -- Phillip Windell http://www.wandtv.com The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. -----------------------------------------------------
Guest Meinolf Weber Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 Re: Setting up MS Virtual Server 2005 Hello Markus, You have to install a server OS the same you as would install it on real Hardware. So you need installation media, your machine has to have enough RAM and a good processor. Start here: http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/bcc5e200-88af-4a64-963b-55f1efb251d11033.mspx?mfr=true http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/virtualserver/ Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > I have downloaded and installed MS Virtual Server (VS) 2005 on a PC > running XP Pro SP2. I have an application that has been running on a > LAN for some time. My goal is to test this app running over the > Internet using Terminal Services (TS). > > I am a bit of a beginner to some of these issues, so apologize for any > basic questions, and appreciate any and all help. > > To start, I have a very basic question: I understand I can set up > multiple server environments or configurations to conduct testing > using VS. Does this mean I must download and install Server 2003 on a > virtual machine I first setup in VS? That is, do I need to obtain > these other OS to do my testing? > > Also, and I hope this is not too much to ask, but now that I have VS > and IIS installed on my XP Pro machine, it is unclear what my next > step is to set up a testing environment to test using TS to connect to > this server. Can anyone point me to the documentation which would > help me with this TS setup? > > Thanks in advance for any and all help on this, > Mark
Guest Meinolf Weber Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 Re: Setting up MS Virtual Server 2005 Hello Phillip, Why not running VS on XP or Vista? I run it on Vista and it goes fine, without any problems. Doesn't matter if NT4, 2000, 2003, XP, Vista or server 2008 are the VM's. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > "Markus" <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:0D88797B-963B-4DB1-B1D6-5137BB79E4C0@microsoft.com... > >> I have downloaded and installed MS Virtual Server (VS) 2005 on a PC >> running >> XP Pro SP2. I have an application that has been running on a LAN for >> some >> time. My goal is to test this app running over the Internet using >> Terminal >> Services (TS). > For a Host machine with XP or Vista you need to download and install > *Virtual PC* (not virtual Server) > > For Server2003 and Server2003R2 (not sure if it run on Windows2000) > you need to download and install Virtual Server. > > The rest of your questions are too broad for me. You will have to > check out the documentation, then come back and ask specific questions > about specific things. The Virtual PC Console has the documentation > built into the Help. > > The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or > Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. > ----------------------------------------------------- >
Guest Phillip Windell Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 Re: Setting up MS Virtual Server 2005 Ok. I thought VS only ran on the Server OS and VPC would not run on a Server OS? If VS runs on XP or Vista then I have to try it,...I have never used VS because the Hosts machines I have to work with are only 3 XP machines and 1 Vista machine. So I have only used VPC (and use it a lot) -- Phillip Windell http://www.wandtv.com The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. ----------------------------------------------------- "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb66a286c8caa9e9d5fbf677@msnews.microsoft.com... > Hello Phillip, > > Why not running VS on XP or Vista? I run it on Vista and it goes fine, > without any problems. Doesn't matter if NT4, 2000, 2003, XP, Vista or > server 2008 are the VM's. > > Best regards > > Meinolf Weber > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and > confers no rights. > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > >> "Markus" <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:0D88797B-963B-4DB1-B1D6-5137BB79E4C0@microsoft.com... >> >>> I have downloaded and installed MS Virtual Server (VS) 2005 on a PC >>> running >>> XP Pro SP2. I have an application that has been running on a LAN for >>> some >>> time. My goal is to test this app running over the Internet using >>> Terminal >>> Services (TS). >> For a Host machine with XP or Vista you need to download and install >> *Virtual PC* (not virtual Server) >> >> For Server2003 and Server2003R2 (not sure if it run on Windows2000) >> you need to download and install Virtual Server. >> >> The rest of your questions are too broad for me. You will have to >> check out the documentation, then come back and ask specific questions >> about specific things. The Virtual PC Console has the documentation >> built into the Help. >> >> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or >> Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. >> ----------------------------------------------------- >> > >
Guest Meinolf Weber Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 Re: Setting up MS Virtual Server 2005 Hello Phillip, VPC on a server i never tried. VS has more functionality then VPC, that's my reason to use it. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > Ok. > I thought VS only ran on the Server OS and VPC would not run on a > Server OS? > If VS runs on XP or Vista then I have to try it,...I have never used > VS > because the Hosts machines I have to work with are only 3 XP machines > and 1 > Vista machine. So I have only used VPC (and use it a lot) > The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or > Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. > ----------------------------------------------------- > > "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message > news:ff16fb66a286c8caa9e9d5fbf677@msnews.microsoft.com... > >> Hello Phillip, >> >> Why not running VS on XP or Vista? I run it on Vista and it goes >> fine, without any problems. Doesn't matter if NT4, 2000, 2003, XP, >> Vista or server 2008 are the VM's. >> >> Best regards >> >> Meinolf Weber >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and >> confers no rights. >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm >>> "Markus" <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:0D88797B-963B-4DB1-B1D6-5137BB79E4C0@microsoft.com... >>> >>>> I have downloaded and installed MS Virtual Server (VS) 2005 on a PC >>>> running >>>> XP Pro SP2. I have an application that has been running on a LAN >>>> for >>>> some >>>> time. My goal is to test this app running over the Internet using >>>> Terminal >>>> Services (TS). >>> For a Host machine with XP or Vista you need to download and install >>> *Virtual PC* (not virtual Server) >>> >>> For Server2003 and Server2003R2 (not sure if it run on Windows2000) >>> you need to download and install Virtual Server. >>> >>> The rest of your questions are too broad for me. You will have to >>> check out the documentation, then come back and ask specific >>> questions about specific things. The Virtual PC Console has the >>> documentation built into the Help. >>> >>> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or >>> Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. >>> ----------------------------------------------------- >>>
Guest Markus Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 Re: Setting up MS Virtual Server 2005 Phillip, After reading the docs (should have done this before posting here, sorry), I see where I will need to get Server 2003 for my tests. Basically, I need to distribute this application I am testing to clients who will install it on their networks and give access to it thru Terminal Services. Before I can do this, I must install it on Server 2003 and do thorough testing to be sure there will be no problems running over TS. Do not have a budget to pick up Server 2003 at about $ 1000. I see from MS that I can get a configured, trial version of Server 2003 on a vhd for 30 days. That should be enough time for me to do testing (I hope) of my app. I am on a limited budget, and it appears the only way to get an extension on 30 days is to subscribe to MSDN or Technet. I am guessing I’ll need 31 days (just kidding, but probably need 60 days for all the testing of all the app I want to do). Anyone now if there is any way to get an extension on the 30 days? Thanks again for all the help here, Mark "Phillip Windell" wrote: > "Markus" <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:0D88797B-963B-4DB1-B1D6-5137BB79E4C0@microsoft.com... > >I have downloaded and installed MS Virtual Server (VS) 2005 on a PC running > > XP Pro SP2. I have an application that has been running on a LAN for some > > time. My goal is to test this app running over the Internet using > > Terminal > > Services (TS). > > > > For a Host machine with XP or Vista you need to download and install > *Virtual PC* (not virtual Server) > > For Server2003 and Server2003R2 (not sure if it run on Windows2000) you need > to download and install Virtual Server. > > The rest of your questions are too broad for me. You will have to check out > the documentation, then come back and ask specific questions about specific > things. The Virtual PC Console has the documentation built into the Help. > > -- > Phillip Windell > http://www.wandtv.com > > The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, > or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. > ----------------------------------------------------- > > >
Guest Markus Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 Re: Setting up MS Virtual Server 2005 Thanks, this link was most helpful. I've got 3 GB RAM, Duo Core processor at 2.4 GHZ, and plenty of hd space. Guess I must get Srvr 2003, but I may need longer than the 30 days eval on the trial version. Any way you know of this can be extended? I don't have the budget to get it and keep it around after my initial testing is completed. Thanks, Mark "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > Hello Markus, > > You have to install a server OS the same you as would install it on real > Hardware. So you need installation media, your machine has to have enough > RAM and a good processor. > > Start here: > http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/bcc5e200-88af-4a64-963b-55f1efb251d11033.mspx?mfr=true > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/virtualserver/ > > Best regards > > Meinolf Weber > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers > no rights. > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > > > I have downloaded and installed MS Virtual Server (VS) 2005 on a PC > > running XP Pro SP2. I have an application that has been running on a > > LAN for some time. My goal is to test this app running over the > > Internet using Terminal Services (TS). > > > > I am a bit of a beginner to some of these issues, so apologize for any > > basic questions, and appreciate any and all help. > > > > To start, I have a very basic question: I understand I can set up > > multiple server environments or configurations to conduct testing > > using VS. Does this mean I must download and install Server 2003 on a > > virtual machine I first setup in VS? That is, do I need to obtain > > these other OS to do my testing? > > > > Also, and I hope this is not too much to ask, but now that I have VS > > and IIS installed on my XP Pro machine, it is unclear what my next > > step is to set up a testing environment to test using TS to connect to > > this server. Can anyone point me to the documentation which would > > help me with this TS setup? > > > > Thanks in advance for any and all help on this, > > Mark > > >
Guest Meinolf Weber Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 Re: Setting up MS Virtual Server 2005 Hello Markus, Maybe you find something on internet about this, but don't know. To make it easier download a preconfigured .vhd file so you do not have to do a complete reinstall. At the end of this page you find a preconfigured server: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsserver/bb430831.aspx Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > Phillip, > > After reading the docs (should have done this before posting here, > sorry), I see where I will need to get Server 2003 for my tests. > > Basically, I need to distribute this application I am testing to > clients who will install it on their networks and give access to it > thru Terminal Services. Before I can do this, I must install it on > Server 2003 and do thorough testing to be sure there will be no > problems running over TS. > > Do not have a budget to pick up Server 2003 at about $ 1000. I see > from MS that I can get a configured, trial version of Server 2003 on a > vhd for 30 days. That should be enough time for me to do testing (I > hope) of my app. > > I am on a limited budget, and it appears the only way to get an > extension on 30 days is to subscribe to MSDN or Technet. I am > guessing I'll need 31 days (just kidding, but probably need 60 days > for all the testing of all the app I want to do). Anyone now if there > is any way to get an extension on the 30 days? > > Thanks again for all the help here, > Mark > "Phillip Windell" wrote: > >> "Markus" <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:0D88797B-963B-4DB1-B1D6-5137BB79E4C0@microsoft.com... >> >>> I have downloaded and installed MS Virtual Server (VS) 2005 on a PC >>> running >>> XP Pro SP2. I have an application that has been running on a LAN >>> for some >>> time. My goal is to test this app running over the Internet using >>> Terminal >>> Services (TS). >> For a Host machine with XP or Vista you need to download and install >> *Virtual PC* (not virtual Server) >> >> For Server2003 and Server2003R2 (not sure if it run on Windows2000) >> you need to download and install Virtual Server. >> >> The rest of your questions are too broad for me. You will have to >> check out the documentation, then come back and ask specific >> questions about specific things. The Virtual PC Console has the >> documentation built into the Help. >> >> -- >> Phillip Windell >> http://www.wandtv.com >> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or >> Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. >> ----------------------------------------------------- >>
Guest Meinolf Weber Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 Re: Setting up MS Virtual Server 2005 Hello Markus, See my other reply. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > Thanks, this link was most helpful. I've got 3 GB RAM, Duo Core > processor at 2.4 GHZ, and plenty of hd space. > > Guess I must get Srvr 2003, but I may need longer than the 30 days > eval on the trial version. Any way you know of this can be extended? > I don't have the budget to get it and keep it around after my initial > testing is completed. > > Thanks, > Mark > "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > >> Hello Markus, >> >> You have to install a server OS the same you as would install it on >> real Hardware. So you need installation media, your machine has to >> have enough RAM and a good processor. >> >> Start here: >> http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/bcc5e200-88af- >> 4a64-963b-55f1efb251d11033.mspx?mfr=true >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/virtualserver/ >> >> Best regards >> >> Meinolf Weber >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and >> confers >> no rights. >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm >>> I have downloaded and installed MS Virtual Server (VS) 2005 on a PC >>> running XP Pro SP2. I have an application that has been running on >>> a LAN for some time. My goal is to test this app running over the >>> Internet using Terminal Services (TS). >>> >>> I am a bit of a beginner to some of these issues, so apologize for >>> any basic questions, and appreciate any and all help. >>> >>> To start, I have a very basic question: I understand I can set up >>> multiple server environments or configurations to conduct testing >>> using VS. Does this mean I must download and install Server 2003 on >>> a virtual machine I first setup in VS? That is, do I need to obtain >>> these other OS to do my testing? >>> >>> Also, and I hope this is not too much to ask, but now that I have VS >>> and IIS installed on my XP Pro machine, it is unclear what my next >>> step is to set up a testing environment to test using TS to connect >>> to this server. Can anyone point me to the documentation which >>> would help me with this TS setup? >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any and all help on this, >>> Mark
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