problem with xp and large drive

July 3, 2008

i have a strange problem with xp and my additional drive i recently bought.

i was running vista for a while and just couldn't deal with it anymore so

decided to go back to xp.

i have the original 250gb drive and added a 1tb drive. when i installed xp

it saw the 1tb drive as D and worked fine. i started to install my drivers,

first with the latest nvidia drivers for my video. it installed fine, but

after the reboot i nearly freaked out when D was gone. it didn't see the

drive at all. subsequent reboots did not show the drive in device manager

at all. i started over again with fresh xp install and after it finished D

was there again. i installed sp3 and after the reboot, D was again gone. i

installed xp a third time and D was there. this time i did nothing except a

reboot and again D was gone.

one thing that's interesting, every time the system would boot after the

initial install finished and D wouldn't appear, the boot process took

excessively long (nearly 5 min). i can't make sense of it. if it was a

matter of xp never seeing the drive, i can see the possibility of a driver

isse, 48 bit lba support etc. but when the drive can't be seen after the

second boot following initial install, that doesn't make too much sense to

me (bios always sees the drive).

i ended up going back to vista (for now) and no issues accessing the 1tb

drive.

system is hp pavilion a1630n purchased end of 2006.

any ideas why this could be happening?

July 3, 2008

Re: problem with xp and large drive

seth wrote:

> i have a strange problem with xp and my additional drive i recently bought.

>

> i was running vista for a while and just couldn't deal with it anymore

> so decided to go back to xp.

>

> i have the original 250gb drive and added a 1tb drive. when i installed

> xp it saw the 1tb drive as D and worked fine. i started to install my

> drivers, first with the latest nvidia drivers for my video. it

> installed fine, but after the reboot i nearly freaked out when D was

> gone. it didn't see the drive at all. subsequent reboots did not show

> the drive in device manager at all. i started over again with fresh xp

> install and after it finished D was there again. i installed sp3 and

> after the reboot, D was again gone. i installed xp a third time and D

> was there. this time i did nothing except a reboot and again D was gone.

>

> one thing that's interesting, every time the system would boot after the

> initial install finished and D wouldn't appear, the boot process took

> excessively long (nearly 5 min). i can't make sense of it. if it was a

> matter of xp never seeing the drive, i can see the possibility of a

> driver isse, 48 bit lba support etc. but when the drive can't be seen

> after the second boot following initial install, that doesn't make too

> much sense to me (bios always sees the drive).

>

> i ended up going back to vista (for now) and no issues accessing the 1tb

> drive.

> system is hp pavilion a1630n purchased end of 2006.

>

> any ideas why this could be happening?

Just a guess (I don't use Vista), but perhaps this KB article has a

clue: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931760/en-us

"Windows Vista and Windows PE 2.0 create disk partitions differently

than Windows XP. This problem occurs only on computers that use certain

BIOS firmware."

I haven't heard of an incompatibility between XP and disks partitioned

using Vista, but maybe there's something about very large drives ...

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July 3, 2008

Re: problem with xp and large drive

Did you use disk management to see if the drive was visible.

Neil

"seth" <me@myhouse.local> wrote in message

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>i have a strange problem with xp and my additional drive i recently bought.

>

> i was running vista for a while and just couldn't deal with it anymore so

> decided to go back to xp.

>

> i have the original 250gb drive and added a 1tb drive. when i installed

> xp it saw the 1tb drive as D and worked fine. i started to install my

> drivers, first with the latest nvidia drivers for my video. it installed

> fine, but after the reboot i nearly freaked out when D was gone. it

> didn't see the drive at all. subsequent reboots did not show the drive in

> device manager at all. i started over again with fresh xp install and

> after it finished D was there again. i installed sp3 and after the

> reboot, D was again gone. i installed xp a third time and D was there.

> this time i did nothing except a reboot and again D was gone.

>

> one thing that's interesting, every time the system would boot after the

> initial install finished and D wouldn't appear, the boot process took

> excessively long (nearly 5 min). i can't make sense of it. if it was a

> matter of xp never seeing the drive, i can see the possibility of a driver

> isse, 48 bit lba support etc. but when the drive can't be seen after the

> second boot following initial install, that doesn't make too much sense to

> me (bios always sees the drive).

>

> i ended up going back to vista (for now) and no issues accessing the 1tb

> drive.

> system is hp pavilion a1630n purchased end of 2006.

>

> any ideas why this could be happening?

July 3, 2008

Re: problem with xp and large drive

yes and it isn't there

neither does the drive show in device manager

"neil" <neilp67_@_hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Did you use disk management to see if the drive was visible.

> Neil

> "seth" <me@myhouse.local> wrote in message

> news:%23VIsXgR3IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>i have a strange problem with xp and my additional drive i recently

>>bought.

>>

>> i was running vista for a while and just couldn't deal with it anymore so

>> decided to go back to xp.

>>

>> i have the original 250gb drive and added a 1tb drive. when i installed

>> xp it saw the 1tb drive as D and worked fine. i started to install my

>> drivers, first with the latest nvidia drivers for my video. it installed

>> fine, but after the reboot i nearly freaked out when D was gone. it

>> didn't see the drive at all. subsequent reboots did not show the drive

>> in device manager at all. i started over again with fresh xp install and

>> after it finished D was there again. i installed sp3 and after the

>> reboot, D was again gone. i installed xp a third time and D was there.

>> this time i did nothing except a reboot and again D was gone.

>>

>> one thing that's interesting, every time the system would boot after the

>> initial install finished and D wouldn't appear, the boot process took

>> excessively long (nearly 5 min). i can't make sense of it. if it was a

>> matter of xp never seeing the drive, i can see the possibility of a

>> driver isse, 48 bit lba support etc. but when the drive can't be seen

>> after the second boot following initial install, that doesn't make too

>> much sense to me (bios always sees the drive).

>>

>> i ended up going back to vista (for now) and no issues accessing the 1tb

>> drive.

>> system is hp pavilion a1630n purchased end of 2006.

>>

>> any ideas why this could be happening?

>

July 3, 2008

Re: problem with xp and large drive

What sp level was your installion winxp cd?

Have you checked your mobo manufacturer re bios updates?

Is the drive correctly shown in the bios?

"seth" <me@myhouse.local> wrote in message

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> yes and it isn't there

> neither does the drive show in device manager

>

> "neil" <neilp67_@_hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:Ax7bk.182788$aE7.84431@newsfe16.ams2...

>> Did you use disk management to see if the drive was visible.

>> Neil

>> "seth" <me@myhouse.local> wrote in message

>> news:%23VIsXgR3IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>i have a strange problem with xp and my additional drive i recently

>>>bought.

>>>

>>> i was running vista for a while and just couldn't deal with it anymore

>>> so decided to go back to xp.

>>>

>>> i have the original 250gb drive and added a 1tb drive. when i installed

>>> xp it saw the 1tb drive as D and worked fine. i started to install my

>>> drivers, first with the latest nvidia drivers for my video. it

>>> installed fine, but after the reboot i nearly freaked out when D was

>>> gone. it didn't see the drive at all. subsequent reboots did not show

>>> the drive in device manager at all. i started over again with fresh xp

>>> install and after it finished D was there again. i installed sp3 and

>>> after the reboot, D was again gone. i installed xp a third time and D

>>> was there. this time i did nothing except a reboot and again D was gone.

>>>

>>> one thing that's interesting, every time the system would boot after the

>>> initial install finished and D wouldn't appear, the boot process took

>>> excessively long (nearly 5 min). i can't make sense of it. if it was a

>>> matter of xp never seeing the drive, i can see the possibility of a

>>> driver isse, 48 bit lba support etc. but when the drive can't be seen

>>> after the second boot following initial install, that doesn't make too

>>> much sense to me (bios always sees the drive).

>>>

>>> i ended up going back to vista (for now) and no issues accessing the 1tb

>>> drive.

>>> system is hp pavilion a1630n purchased end of 2006.

>>>

>>> any ideas why this could be happening?

>>

>

July 6, 2008

Re: problem with xp and large drive

the install was a slipstream of sp2

there are no new bios updates since last year

and the drive is in the bios; works fine in vista

"DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message

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> What sp level was your installion winxp cd?

> Have you checked your mobo manufacturer re bios updates?

> Is the drive correctly shown in the bios?

>

> "seth" <me@myhouse.local> wrote in message

> news:u7VmxRV3IHA.1436@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> yes and it isn't there

>> neither does the drive show in device manager

>>

>> "neil" <neilp67_@_hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:Ax7bk.182788$aE7.84431@newsfe16.ams2...

>>> Did you use disk management to see if the drive was visible.

>>> Neil

>>> "seth" <me@myhouse.local> wrote in message

>>> news:%23VIsXgR3IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>i have a strange problem with xp and my additional drive i recently

>>>>bought.

>>>>

>>>> i was running vista for a while and just couldn't deal with it anymore

>>>> so decided to go back to xp.

>>>>

>>>> i have the original 250gb drive and added a 1tb drive. when i

>>>> installed xp it saw the 1tb drive as D and worked fine. i started to

>>>> install my drivers, first with the latest nvidia drivers for my video.

>>>> it installed fine, but after the reboot i nearly freaked out when D was

>>>> gone. it didn't see the drive at all. subsequent reboots did not show

>>>> the drive in device manager at all. i started over again with fresh xp

>>>> install and after it finished D was there again. i installed sp3 and

>>>> after the reboot, D was again gone. i installed xp a third time and D

>>>> was there. this time i did nothing except a reboot and again D was

>>>> gone.

>>>>

>>>> one thing that's interesting, every time the system would boot after

>>>> the initial install finished and D wouldn't appear, the boot process

>>>> took excessively long (nearly 5 min). i can't make sense of it. if it

>>>> was a matter of xp never seeing the drive, i can see the possibility of

>>>> a driver isse, 48 bit lba support etc. but when the drive can't be seen

>>>> after the second boot following initial install, that doesn't make too

>>>> much sense to me (bios always sees the drive).

>>>>

>>>> i ended up going back to vista (for now) and no issues accessing the

>>>> 1tb drive.

>>>> system is hp pavilion a1630n purchased end of 2006.

>>>>

>>>> any ideas why this could be happening?

>>>

>>

>

July 9, 2008

Re: problem with xp and large drive

i just reinstalled xp and used setup to create new partition on both drives

the 1tb drive worked....until the second reboot after installation

right now the drive is gone