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Hello,

I kept getting these errors in Windows xp, rebooting and blue screen etc.

I found out my 512k memory card was bad, so i was only left with the 256 k

card.

so i bought 2 kingston pc2700 ddr333 (crucial.com says this is the size that

will work), but actually received 2 pc2100 ddr266 (kingston.com says this is

the size that will work)

whatver the case may e they should both work. Windows says I am running 1

gig like normal, but the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was running

before.

ANyway, the memory tests i run online ALL say I have 512k, and only 1 slot

is being used.

I tried both cards, in both slots, and each card alone, and each card with

my 256, and every time, it staes only one slot is filled and 512k.

Is this a windows error the scan is picking up.

Is there something in windows that will show me the ACTUAL ram i have and

ACTUAL htat is being used.

I may have 1 gig like windows says, but is it possible only 512 is being

used ?

Guest marx404
Posted

Re: RAM size

 

what does your boot (post) screen show?

also, go to start, run, type cmd then mem in the DOS box, what does it show

in total contiguous memory? It should show the complete amount of memory. If

you have any shared companents like video you will need to subtract for

them. It seems odd that you were shipped different memory than what you

ordered??

I would double check that.

I use PC WIzard, it s a free program. WWW: http://www.cpuid.com it will tell

you what you need to know.

--

marx404

 

_________________

"Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:96FB73FF-DC21-4A7A-916D-2FDF4D180977@microsoft.com...

> Hello,

> I kept getting these errors in Windows xp, rebooting and blue screen etc.

> I found out my 512k memory card was bad, so i was only left with the 256

> k

> card.

> so i bought 2 kingston pc2700 ddr333 (crucial.com says this is the size

> that

> will work), but actually received 2 pc2100 ddr266 (kingston.com says this

> is

> the size that will work)

> whatver the case may e they should both work. Windows says I am running 1

> gig like normal, but the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was

> running

> before.

> ANyway, the memory tests i run online ALL say I have 512k, and only 1 slot

> is being used.

> I tried both cards, in both slots, and each card alone, and each card with

> my 256, and every time, it staes only one slot is filled and 512k.

> Is this a windows error the scan is picking up.

> Is there something in windows that will show me the ACTUAL ram i have and

> ACTUAL htat is being used.

> I may have 1 gig like windows says, but is it possible only 512 is being

> used ?

Guest Ken Blake, MVP
Posted

Re: RAM size

 

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:28:02 -0700, Bob <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com>

wrote:

> Hello,

> I kept getting these errors in Windows xp, rebooting and blue screen etc.

> I found out my 512k memory card was bad, so i was only left with the 256 k

> card.

> so i bought 2 kingston pc2700 ddr333 (crucial.com says this is the size that

> will work), but actually received 2 pc2100 ddr266 (kingston.com says this is

> the size that will work)

> whatver the case may e they should both work. Windows says I am running 1

> gig like normal, but the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was running

> before.

 

 

There should be no surprise there. Despite the many people who

continually repeat "the more memory the better," that's true only up

to a point. Once you have enough RAM so that the system is no longer

paging, any additional RAM does next to nothing for you. At what point

that happens depends on what apps you run, but for most people running

common business applications under Windows XP, that point is somewhere

between 256-512MB, and except for those doing something like editing

videos or large photographic images, more RAM than that is largely

wasted.

 

Even the 768MB you used to use was probably more than you needed.

 

--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Guest db.·.. >
Posted

Re: RAM size

 

more ram helps to

process more information

and the variables involved

are amount of memory and

processing speed.

 

if you have 2 -512 chips

then windows should

indicate this amount less

memory used for video.

 

if only one 512 is showing,

then your bios/cmos may

have a setting to enable

the slots "or" the physical

slot may be defective for

the second 512 chip, thus is the

reason why you only

see 512.

 

you can click start>run>

msinfo32

 

and see how much ram

is being reported.

 

another program is called

"siw" that reveals system

information as well.

 

 

--

 

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

 

"Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:96FB73FF-DC21-4A7A-916D-2FDF4D180977@microsoft.com...

> Hello,

> I kept getting these errors in Windows xp, rebooting and blue screen etc.

> I found out my 512k memory card was bad, so i was only left with the 256 k

> card.

> so i bought 2 kingston pc2700 ddr333 (crucial.com says this is the size that

> will work), but actually received 2 pc2100 ddr266 (kingston.com says this is

> the size that will work)

> whatver the case may e they should both work. Windows says I am running 1

> gig like normal, but the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was running

> before.

> ANyway, the memory tests i run online ALL say I have 512k, and only 1 slot

> is being used.

> I tried both cards, in both slots, and each card alone, and each card with

> my 256, and every time, it staes only one slot is filled and 512k.

> Is this a windows error the scan is picking up.

> Is there something in windows that will show me the ACTUAL ram i have and

> ACTUAL htat is being used.

> I may have 1 gig like windows says, but is it possible only 512 is being

> used ?

Posted

Re: RAM size

 

Hi Marx404,

 

First, I bought chips on ebay, and the guy now has a ton of negative from

this series of sales, most peoples do not work, or mixed up pc2100 and pc2700

as each auction was two chips. he stated pc2700 ddr333, but mixed up chips

with the 2100's he had i guess. I have a dispute going on right now w/

paypal for this.

 

I have a compaq EVO N610C, crucial.com states i need pc2700 ddr333, and can

max at two 512 chips one in each slot, but kinston.com states i need pc2100

ddr266, max at 2 512 chips one in each slot, so I am not sure what I need so

i bought the higher one since they are downward compatible, so not sure if I

am maxing out with pc2100, or can get faster w/ pc2700. I cant get a straigh

answer on this. The original chip i had was a 256 pc2100 ddr266, and i

bought a 512k pc2100 ddr266, and my total 768 was working great until errors.

i did a reinstall and couldnt figure it out. afterwards i learned bad

memeory was the cause, and I tried mem scans and they saw I had two chips one

256 and one 512, when i ran them.

So I replaced the chips with two 512's as i stated. I tried all the scans

now, but state I have one slot open and only have 512, but not sure if i am

maxing out if i need the ddr333 pc2700....i dont know what to think ???

AGain the scans i did when i was running 768 were fine, that 512 chip i had

was a nanya, and my 256 is an infinty or something.

 

Well thank you for your reply. When I installed the chips then started it

up and i had a choice which said my computer stated there was 1024 meg and to

hit f1 to save or like f2 to ignore, or f10 to go into setup.

I chose f1 to save and everything in windows says 1024 meg, or 1 gig.

 

my other issues....

I can not get into the bios...this is another problem...i never could.

Compaq has this administrator password thing and i tried everything, even not

putting anything in. I looked up how to reset it or get rid of it, even

removed the battery for hours, no luck There is a website but it is allot of

technical jargon i do not understand what to do to get rid of it, plus

another site said to create a bootable floppy that will get rid of it, and i

have a floppy usb, but do not know how to get the computer to boot from this

drive.

 

anyways, when I right click my compuer properties says 1 gig, then control

alt delete says 1047920, and when i go to start-cmd-mem here is what

states....

 

655360 bytes total conventional memeory

655360 bytes available to MS-DOS

598784 largest executable program size

 

1048576 bytes total contiguous exteneded memory

0 bytes available contiguous extended memory

941056 bytes available XMS memory

MS-DOS resident in high memeory area

 

any thoughts on all this is much appreciated ?

 

"marx404" wrote:

> what does your boot (post) screen show?

> also, go to start, run, type cmd then mem in the DOS box, what does it show

> in total contiguous memory? It should show the complete amount of memory. If

> you have any shared companents like video you will need to subtract for

> them. It seems odd that you were shipped different memory than what you

> ordered??

> I would double check that.

> I use PC WIzard, it s a free program. WWW: http://www.cpuid.com it will tell

> you what you need to know.

> --

> marx404

>

> _________________

> "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:96FB73FF-DC21-4A7A-916D-2FDF4D180977@microsoft.com...

> > Hello,

> > I kept getting these errors in Windows xp, rebooting and blue screen etc.

> > I found out my 512k memory card was bad, so i was only left with the 256

> > k

> > card.

> > so i bought 2 kingston pc2700 ddr333 (crucial.com says this is the size

> > that

> > will work), but actually received 2 pc2100 ddr266 (kingston.com says this

> > is

> > the size that will work)

> > whatver the case may e they should both work. Windows says I am running 1

> > gig like normal, but the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was

> > running

> > before.

> > ANyway, the memory tests i run online ALL say I have 512k, and only 1 slot

> > is being used.

> > I tried both cards, in both slots, and each card alone, and each card with

> > my 256, and every time, it staes only one slot is filled and 512k.

> > Is this a windows error the scan is picking up.

> > Is there something in windows that will show me the ACTUAL ram i have and

> > ACTUAL htat is being used.

> > I may have 1 gig like windows says, but is it possible only 512 is being

> > used ?

>

>

>

Posted

Re: RAM size

 

Hi Ken, not sure if this is the case.

Please see my new reply to Marx404 for more on this.

thanks for your reply...

 

 

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:28:02 -0700, Bob <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com>

> wrote:

>

> > Hello,

> > I kept getting these errors in Windows xp, rebooting and blue screen etc.

> > I found out my 512k memory card was bad, so i was only left with the 256 k

> > card.

> > so i bought 2 kingston pc2700 ddr333 (crucial.com says this is the size that

> > will work), but actually received 2 pc2100 ddr266 (kingston.com says this is

> > the size that will work)

> > whatver the case may e they should both work. Windows says I am running 1

> > gig like normal, but the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was running

> > before.

>

>

> There should be no surprise there. Despite the many people who

> continually repeat "the more memory the better," that's true only up

> to a point. Once you have enough RAM so that the system is no longer

> paging, any additional RAM does next to nothing for you. At what point

> that happens depends on what apps you run, but for most people running

> common business applications under Windows XP, that point is somewhere

> between 256-512MB, and except for those doing something like editing

> videos or large photographic images, more RAM than that is largely

> wasted.

>

> Even the 768MB you used to use was probably more than you needed.

>

> --

> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>

Posted

Re: RAM size

 

hi db,

 

Please see my last reply to marx404 for more info.

At this point i do not know what is going on.

 

i was running 768, (512 +256) for a long time so i know both ports were

working.

This was picked up by the scans i did. it shows 256 + 512

 

now the scans on crucial show 512 with one slot empty only no matter what

chips or configuration i use, the chips are the same but I guess one will

only work by itself ??

 

Here is what it says for msinfo under system summary

but everything else in windows states I have 1 gig ?

 

total physical memory 512.00 MB

available physical memory 559.52 MB

Total virtual memeory 2.00 GB

Available virtual 1.96 GB

 

"db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." wrote:

> more ram helps to

> process more information

> and the variables involved

> are amount of memory and

> processing speed.

>

> if you have 2 -512 chips

> then windows should

> indicate this amount less

> memory used for video.

>

> if only one 512 is showing,

> then your bios/cmos may

> have a setting to enable

> the slots "or" the physical

> slot may be defective for

> the second 512 chip, thus is the

> reason why you only

> see 512.

>

> you can click start>run>

> msinfo32

>

> and see how much ram

> is being reported.

>

> another program is called

> "siw" that reveals system

> information as well.

>

>

> --

>

> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

>

> "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:96FB73FF-DC21-4A7A-916D-2FDF4D180977@microsoft.com...

> > Hello,

> > I kept getting these errors in Windows xp, rebooting and blue screen etc.

> > I found out my 512k memory card was bad, so i was only left with the 256 k

> > card.

> > so i bought 2 kingston pc2700 ddr333 (crucial.com says this is the size that

> > will work), but actually received 2 pc2100 ddr266 (kingston.com says this is

> > the size that will work)

> > whatver the case may e they should both work. Windows says I am running 1

> > gig like normal, but the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was running

> > before.

> > ANyway, the memory tests i run online ALL say I have 512k, and only 1 slot

> > is being used.

> > I tried both cards, in both slots, and each card alone, and each card with

> > my 256, and every time, it staes only one slot is filled and 512k.

> > Is this a windows error the scan is picking up.

> > Is there something in windows that will show me the ACTUAL ram i have and

> > ACTUAL htat is being used.

> > I may have 1 gig like windows says, but is it possible only 512 is being

> > used ?

>

>

Guest Ken Blake, MVP
Posted

Re: RAM size

 

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:57:01 -0700, Bob <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com>

wrote:

> Hi Ken, not sure if this is the case.

> Please see my new reply to Marx404 for more on this.

> thanks for your reply...

 

 

You're welcome, but I'll repeat that 1GB is overkill for the great

majority of people running XP. Unless you run particularly memory

hungry applications (and I don't see anything in your reply to Marx404

that suggests that you are), there's no reason to expect that that

much memory would increase your performance.

 

 

> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

>

> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:28:02 -0700, Bob <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Hello,

> > > I kept getting these errors in Windows xp, rebooting and blue screen etc.

> > > I found out my 512k memory card was bad, so i was only left with the 256 k

> > > card.

> > > so i bought 2 kingston pc2700 ddr333 (crucial.com says this is the size that

> > > will work), but actually received 2 pc2100 ddr266 (kingston.com says this is

> > > the size that will work)

> > > whatver the case may e they should both work. Windows says I am running 1

> > > gig like normal, but the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was running

> > > before.

> >

> >

> > There should be no surprise there. Despite the many people who

> > continually repeat "the more memory the better," that's true only up

> > to a point. Once you have enough RAM so that the system is no longer

> > paging, any additional RAM does next to nothing for you. At what point

> > that happens depends on what apps you run, but for most people running

> > common business applications under Windows XP, that point is somewhere

> > between 256-512MB, and except for those doing something like editing

> > videos or large photographic images, more RAM than that is largely

> > wasted.

> >

> > Even the 768MB you used to use was probably more than you needed.

> >

> > --

> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

> >

 

--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Posted

Re: RAM size

 

Ken,

 

I run accounting software, microsoft office, and starship among other

programs, from my laptop, My computer bogs down at 256, and when I am logged

onto servers the accounting software lagged with 512, so I upgraded to 768

which was sufficiant.

 

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:57:01 -0700, Bob <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com>

> wrote:

>

> > Hi Ken, not sure if this is the case.

> > Please see my new reply to Marx404 for more on this.

> > thanks for your reply...

>

>

> You're welcome, but I'll repeat that 1GB is overkill for the great

> majority of people running XP. Unless you run particularly memory

> hungry applications (and I don't see anything in your reply to Marx404

> that suggests that you are), there's no reason to expect that that

> much memory would increase your performance.

>

>

>

> > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> >

> > > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:28:02 -0700, Bob <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hello,

> > > > I kept getting these errors in Windows xp, rebooting and blue screen etc.

> > > > I found out my 512k memory card was bad, so i was only left with the 256 k

> > > > card.

> > > > so i bought 2 kingston pc2700 ddr333 (crucial.com says this is the size that

> > > > will work), but actually received 2 pc2100 ddr266 (kingston.com says this is

> > > > the size that will work)

> > > > whatver the case may e they should both work. Windows says I am running 1

> > > > gig like normal, but the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was running

> > > > before.

> > >

> > >

> > > There should be no surprise there. Despite the many people who

> > > continually repeat "the more memory the better," that's true only up

> > > to a point. Once you have enough RAM so that the system is no longer

> > > paging, any additional RAM does next to nothing for you. At what point

> > > that happens depends on what apps you run, but for most people running

> > > common business applications under Windows XP, that point is somewhere

> > > between 256-512MB, and except for those doing something like editing

> > > videos or large photographic images, more RAM than that is largely

> > > wasted.

> > >

> > > Even the 768MB you used to use was probably more than you needed.

> > >

> > > --

> > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

> > >

>

> --

> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>

Guest Ken Blake, MVP
Posted

Re: RAM size

 

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:12:01 -0700, Bob <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com>

wrote:

> Ken,

>

> I run accounting software, microsoft office, and starship

 

 

Sorry, I don't know what "Starship" is. Is that a game?

 

> among other

> programs, from my laptop, My computer bogs down at 256, and when I am logged

> onto servers the accounting software lagged with 512, so I upgraded to 768

> which was sufficiant.

 

 

OK. If adding the memory worked for you, then I can't argue with that.

Certainly we don't all have the same needs.

 

But you say that 768MB was sufficient, and my comment was directed at

your statement that "Windows says I am running 1 gig like normal, but

the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was running before." One

should not necessarily expect that 1GB will always be faster than

768MB, and for the great majority of those running XP, it is not.

 

>

> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

>

> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:57:01 -0700, Bob <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Ken, not sure if this is the case.

> > > Please see my new reply to Marx404 for more on this.

> > > thanks for your reply...

> >

> >

> > You're welcome, but I'll repeat that 1GB is overkill for the great

> > majority of people running XP. Unless you run particularly memory

> > hungry applications (and I don't see anything in your reply to Marx404

> > that suggests that you are), there's no reason to expect that that

> > much memory would increase your performance.

> >

> >

> >

> > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> > >

> > > > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:28:02 -0700, Bob <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com>

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Hello,

> > > > > I kept getting these errors in Windows xp, rebooting and blue screen etc.

> > > > > I found out my 512k memory card was bad, so i was only left with the 256 k

> > > > > card.

> > > > > so i bought 2 kingston pc2700 ddr333 (crucial.com says this is the size that

> > > > > will work), but actually received 2 pc2100 ddr266 (kingston.com says this is

> > > > > the size that will work)

> > > > > whatver the case may e they should both work. Windows says I am running 1

> > > > > gig like normal, but the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was running

> > > > > before.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > There should be no surprise there. Despite the many people who

> > > > continually repeat "the more memory the better," that's true only up

> > > > to a point. Once you have enough RAM so that the system is no longer

> > > > paging, any additional RAM does next to nothing for you. At what point

> > > > that happens depends on what apps you run, but for most people running

> > > > common business applications under Windows XP, that point is somewhere

> > > > between 256-512MB, and except for those doing something like editing

> > > > videos or large photographic images, more RAM than that is largely

> > > > wasted.

> > > >

> > > > Even the 768MB you used to use was probably more than you needed.

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> > > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

> > > >

> >

> > --

> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

> >

 

--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Posted

Re: RAM size

 

Ken, Starship is a shipping program similiar to UPS Worldship. It is tied

into the accounting software.

 

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:12:01 -0700, Bob <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com>

> wrote:

>

> > Ken,

> >

> > I run accounting software, microsoft office, and starship

>

>

> Sorry, I don't know what "Starship" is. Is that a game?

>

>

> > among other

> > programs, from my laptop, My computer bogs down at 256, and when I am logged

> > onto servers the accounting software lagged with 512, so I upgraded to 768

> > which was sufficiant.

>

>

> OK. If adding the memory worked for you, then I can't argue with that.

> Certainly we don't all have the same needs.

>

> But you say that 768MB was sufficient, and my comment was directed at

> your statement that "Windows says I am running 1 gig like normal, but

> the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was running before." One

> should not necessarily expect that 1GB will always be faster than

> 768MB, and for the great majority of those running XP, it is not.

>

>

> >

> > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> >

> > > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:57:01 -0700, Bob <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi Ken, not sure if this is the case.

> > > > Please see my new reply to Marx404 for more on this.

> > > > thanks for your reply...

> > >

> > >

> > > You're welcome, but I'll repeat that 1GB is overkill for the great

> > > majority of people running XP. Unless you run particularly memory

> > > hungry applications (and I don't see anything in your reply to Marx404

> > > that suggests that you are), there's no reason to expect that that

> > > much memory would increase your performance.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:28:02 -0700, Bob <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hello,

> > > > > > I kept getting these errors in Windows xp, rebooting and blue screen etc.

> > > > > > I found out my 512k memory card was bad, so i was only left with the 256 k

> > > > > > card.

> > > > > > so i bought 2 kingston pc2700 ddr333 (crucial.com says this is the size that

> > > > > > will work), but actually received 2 pc2100 ddr266 (kingston.com says this is

> > > > > > the size that will work)

> > > > > > whatver the case may e they should both work. Windows says I am running 1

> > > > > > gig like normal, but the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was running

> > > > > > before.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > There should be no surprise there. Despite the many people who

> > > > > continually repeat "the more memory the better," that's true only up

> > > > > to a point. Once you have enough RAM so that the system is no longer

> > > > > paging, any additional RAM does next to nothing for you. At what point

> > > > > that happens depends on what apps you run, but for most people running

> > > > > common business applications under Windows XP, that point is somewhere

> > > > > between 256-512MB, and except for those doing something like editing

> > > > > videos or large photographic images, more RAM than that is largely

> > > > > wasted.

> > > > >

> > > > > Even the 768MB you used to use was probably more than you needed.

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> > > > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

> > > > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

> > >

>

> --

> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>

Posted

Re: RAM size

 

Ken,

 

thanks again for the reply, 768 was fine and it showed I had 768

This shows I have 512, and i know I have 1 gig there.

It does seem slower than the 768 I had, so I basically need to know what is

going on. How much ram do I have in there and why is only half showing up ?

 

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:12:01 -0700, Bob <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com>

> wrote:

>

> > Ken,

> >

> > I run accounting software, microsoft office, and starship

>

>

> Sorry, I don't know what "Starship" is. Is that a game?

>

>

> > among other

> > programs, from my laptop, My computer bogs down at 256, and when I am logged

> > onto servers the accounting software lagged with 512, so I upgraded to 768

> > which was sufficiant.

>

>

> OK. If adding the memory worked for you, then I can't argue with that.

> Certainly we don't all have the same needs.

>

> But you say that 768MB was sufficient, and my comment was directed at

> your statement that "Windows says I am running 1 gig like normal, but

> the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was running before." One

> should not necessarily expect that 1GB will always be faster than

> 768MB, and for the great majority of those running XP, it is not.

>

>

> >

> > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> >

> > > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:57:01 -0700, Bob <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi Ken, not sure if this is the case.

> > > > Please see my new reply to Marx404 for more on this.

> > > > thanks for your reply...

> > >

> > >

> > > You're welcome, but I'll repeat that 1GB is overkill for the great

> > > majority of people running XP. Unless you run particularly memory

> > > hungry applications (and I don't see anything in your reply to Marx404

> > > that suggests that you are), there's no reason to expect that that

> > > much memory would increase your performance.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:28:02 -0700, Bob <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hello,

> > > > > > I kept getting these errors in Windows xp, rebooting and blue screen etc.

> > > > > > I found out my 512k memory card was bad, so i was only left with the 256 k

> > > > > > card.

> > > > > > so i bought 2 kingston pc2700 ddr333 (crucial.com says this is the size that

> > > > > > will work), but actually received 2 pc2100 ddr266 (kingston.com says this is

> > > > > > the size that will work)

> > > > > > whatver the case may e they should both work. Windows says I am running 1

> > > > > > gig like normal, but the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was running

> > > > > > before.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > There should be no surprise there. Despite the many people who

> > > > > continually repeat "the more memory the better," that's true only up

> > > > > to a point. Once you have enough RAM so that the system is no longer

> > > > > paging, any additional RAM does next to nothing for you. At what point

> > > > > that happens depends on what apps you run, but for most people running

> > > > > common business applications under Windows XP, that point is somewhere

> > > > > between 256-512MB, and except for those doing something like editing

> > > > > videos or large photographic images, more RAM than that is largely

> > > > > wasted.

> > > > >

> > > > > Even the 768MB you used to use was probably more than you needed.

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> > > > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

> > > > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

> > >

>

> --

> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>

Guest db.·.. >
Posted

Re: RAM size

 

ok.

 

then the 512 that is seen

by windows at this time

is what you have to go

with regardless of what

the other programs or

scans are saying.

 

therefore you should remove

the other chip from your

system and return it for credit.

 

----------------

 

now since you are assured

that you "have" 512 installed

you may want to re run your

scans or whatever else you are

using to benchmark your

memory.

 

keep-in-mind that with

a 512 meg ram chip installed

you "know" that your scans

cannot report that you have

more because it is simply and

physically impossible to have

more than 512.

 

however, faulty programs

can give you bogus info.

 

--------------

 

another thing to keep-in-mind

is that the maker of your mother

board is the "authority" on what

memory you need; "regardless"

of what the memory makers state.

 

so what you need to do is to

double check your motherboards

homesite to find out the "exact"

specifications for your motherboard's

memory configuration and type.

 

you will likely find that the

512 you have installed at this

time and what is being reported

by windows is within the

specifications per your mother

board maker.

 

---------------

 

in the old days anyone could mix

and match memory. however, now

a days there are motherboards

that do not allow deviations.

 

--

 

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

 

"Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:D3BE788B-EE6F-4BAD-B539-94F131693F97@microsoft.com...

> hi db,

>

> Please see my last reply to marx404 for more info.

> At this point i do not know what is going on.

>

> i was running 768, (512 +256) for a long time so i know both ports were

> working.

> This was picked up by the scans i did. it shows 256 + 512

>

> now the scans on crucial show 512 with one slot empty only no matter what

> chips or configuration i use, the chips are the same but I guess one will

> only work by itself ??

>

> Here is what it says for msinfo under system summary

> but everything else in windows states I have 1 gig ?

>

> total physical memory 512.00 MB

> available physical memory 559.52 MB

> Total virtual memeory 2.00 GB

> Available virtual 1.96 GB

>

> "db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." wrote:

>

>> more ram helps to

>> process more information

>> and the variables involved

>> are amount of memory and

>> processing speed.

>>

>> if you have 2 -512 chips

>> then windows should

>> indicate this amount less

>> memory used for video.

>>

>> if only one 512 is showing,

>> then your bios/cmos may

>> have a setting to enable

>> the slots "or" the physical

>> slot may be defective for

>> the second 512 chip, thus is the

>> reason why you only

>> see 512.

>>

>> you can click start>run>

>> msinfo32

>>

>> and see how much ram

>> is being reported.

>>

>> another program is called

>> "siw" that reveals system

>> information as well.

>>

>>

>> --

>>

>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

>>

>> "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:96FB73FF-DC21-4A7A-916D-2FDF4D180977@microsoft.com...

>> > Hello,

>> > I kept getting these errors in Windows xp, rebooting and blue screen etc.

>> > I found out my 512k memory card was bad, so i was only left with the 256 k

>> > card.

>> > so i bought 2 kingston pc2700 ddr333 (crucial.com says this is the size

>> > that

>> > will work), but actually received 2 pc2100 ddr266 (kingston.com says this

>> > is

>> > the size that will work)

>> > whatver the case may e they should both work. Windows says I am running 1

>> > gig like normal, but the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was

>> > running

>> > before.

>> > ANyway, the memory tests i run online ALL say I have 512k, and only 1 slot

>> > is being used.

>> > I tried both cards, in both slots, and each card alone, and each card with

>> > my 256, and every time, it staes only one slot is filled and 512k.

>> > Is this a windows error the scan is picking up.

>> > Is there something in windows that will show me the ACTUAL ram i have and

>> > ACTUAL htat is being used.

>> > I may have 1 gig like windows says, but is it possible only 512 is being

>> > used ?

>>

>>

Guest Daave
Posted

Re: RAM size

 

"Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:19480D30-67CF-420D-A0BF-F98411143AA9@microsoft.com...

> thanks again for the reply, 768 was fine and it showed I had 768

> This shows I have 512, and i know I have 1 gig there.

> It does seem slower than the 768 I had, so I basically need to know

> what is

> going on. How much ram do I have in there and why is only half

> showing up ?

 

Either one of your modules isn't seated properly or is defective. My

guess is that it's the latter, considering your description of the

seller. If you want to test the module, use something like Memtest86+ or

the Windows Memory Diagnostic:

 

http://www.memtest.org/

 

http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

Guest Lil' Dave
Posted

Re: RAM size

 

"Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:96FB73FF-DC21-4A7A-916D-2FDF4D180977@microsoft.com...

> Hello,

> I kept getting these errors in Windows xp, rebooting and blue screen etc.

> I found out my 512k memory card was bad, so i was only left with the 256

> k

> card.

> so i bought 2 kingston pc2700 ddr333 (crucial.com says this is the size

> that

> will work), but actually received 2 pc2100 ddr266 (kingston.com says this

> is

> the size that will work)

> whatver the case may e they should both work. Windows says I am running 1

> gig like normal, but the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was

> running

> before.

> ANyway, the memory tests i run online ALL say I have 512k, and only 1 slot

 

Is one of the online test at crucial.com?

> is being used.

> I tried both cards, in both slots, and each card alone, and each card with

> my 256, and every time, it staes only one slot is filled and 512k.

 

Why did you keep the 256K module?

Why is it in there?

> Is this a windows error the scan is picking up.

> Is there something in windows that will show me the ACTUAL ram i have and

> ACTUAL htat is being used.

> I may have 1 gig like windows says, but is it possible only 512 is being

> used ?

 

Pull the 256K module, and try again. Check "bank" allotments for each RAM

slot as appropriate to your motherboard.

--

Dave

 

New drilling sites for oil offshore and other

sensitive places. Question is, will that oil

go here in the U.S., or someplace else for sale?

Posted

Re: RAM size

 

Thanks Dave,

 

I tried Memtest and it said total RAM was 1024

Cashe 1 8K ?

Cashe 2 512m ?

 

Anyway, Crucial.com says 1 512 stick, and at startup and windows system

properties shows 1 gig.

But windows system info shows total physcial memory 512.00MB

using start-run-(msinfo32)

 

I am confused....

 

 

"Daave" wrote:

> "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:19480D30-67CF-420D-A0BF-F98411143AA9@microsoft.com...

>

> > thanks again for the reply, 768 was fine and it showed I had 768

> > This shows I have 512, and i know I have 1 gig there.

> > It does seem slower than the 768 I had, so I basically need to know

> > what is

> > going on. How much ram do I have in there and why is only half

> > showing up ?

>

> Either one of your modules isn't seated properly or is defective. My

> guess is that it's the latter, considering your description of the

> seller. If you want to test the module, use something like Memtest86+ or

> the Windows Memory Diagnostic:

>

> http://www.memtest.org/

>

> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

>

>

>

Posted

Re: RAM size

 

Hi Dave,

 

I tried Memtest and it said total RAM was 1024

Cashe 1 8K ?

Cashe 2 512m ?

 

Anyway, Crucial.com says 1 512 stick, and at startup and windows system

properties shows 1 gig.

But windows system info shows total physcial memory 512.00MB

using start-run-(msinfo32)

 

I am confused....

 

As far as the 256, it is out. I tried each of the 3 sticks with another to

see what comes up for each test.

The only ones that werea ccurate was the 256 alone, and one 512 stick alone.

When the other 512 stick or 256 stick is in with a 512, it still only shows

512, not 768 or 1024.

 

Now my 512 nanyo that died, I ran it with the 256 stick, and tests showed

768, and windows showed 768, and bios showed 768.

 

But now only 512 for the tests...and the windows system ino....when i right

click properties on my computer shows 1 gig and startup shows 1 gig, and

memetest shows 1 gig ...I think...

 

im confused on this more...How do I check bank allotments.....If it is in

Bios Im locked out, for some reason admin password do not now, and it is not

blank...i tried a website on here to reset it but didnt work. But when I

amke a change in RAM, the startup screen tells me what it found and asks f1

to save f2 to ignore, so that is how I knew the bios was correct when stared

1024

"Lil' Dave" wrote:

> "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:96FB73FF-DC21-4A7A-916D-2FDF4D180977@microsoft.com...

> > Hello,

> > I kept getting these errors in Windows xp, rebooting and blue screen etc.

> > I found out my 512k memory card was bad, so i was only left with the 256

> > k

> > card.

> > so i bought 2 kingston pc2700 ddr333 (crucial.com says this is the size

> > that

> > will work), but actually received 2 pc2100 ddr266 (kingston.com says this

> > is

> > the size that will work)

> > whatver the case may e they should both work. Windows says I am running 1

> > gig like normal, but the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was

> > running

> > before.

> > ANyway, the memory tests i run online ALL say I have 512k, and only 1 slot

>

> Is one of the online test at crucial.com?

>

> > is being used.

> > I tried both cards, in both slots, and each card alone, and each card with

> > my 256, and every time, it staes only one slot is filled and 512k.

>

> Why did you keep the 256K module?

> Why is it in there?

>

> > Is this a windows error the scan is picking up.

> > Is there something in windows that will show me the ACTUAL ram i have and

> > ACTUAL htat is being used.

> > I may have 1 gig like windows says, but is it possible only 512 is being

> > used ?

>

> Pull the 256K module, and try again. Check "bank" allotments for each RAM

> slot as appropriate to your motherboard.

> --

> Dave

>

> New drilling sites for oil offshore and other

> sensitive places. Question is, will that oil

> go here in the U.S., or someplace else for sale?

>

>

>

Guest Lil' Dave
Posted

Re: RAM size

 

Most motherboards share a bank across two RAM slots. That can be a problem,

in some cases, when using a different size RAM module sharing the same bank.

And, compounds differential optimum timing for a single RAM module vs

multiple RAM modules across bank shared RAM slots.

 

--

Dave

 

New drilling sites for oil offshore and other

sensitive places. Question is, will that oil

go here in the U.S., or someplace else for sale?

"Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:9EDEC0F0-BAF6-4ED6-9B6E-F372A748DA37@microsoft.com...

> Hi Dave,

>

> I tried Memtest and it said total RAM was 1024

> Cashe 1 8K ?

> Cashe 2 512m ?

>

> Anyway, Crucial.com says 1 512 stick, and at startup and windows system

> properties shows 1 gig.

> But windows system info shows total physcial memory 512.00MB

> using start-run-(msinfo32)

>

> I am confused....

>

> As far as the 256, it is out. I tried each of the 3 sticks with another

> to

> see what comes up for each test.

> The only ones that werea ccurate was the 256 alone, and one 512 stick

> alone.

> When the other 512 stick or 256 stick is in with a 512, it still only

> shows

> 512, not 768 or 1024.

>

> Now my 512 nanyo that died, I ran it with the 256 stick, and tests showed

> 768, and windows showed 768, and bios showed 768.

>

> But now only 512 for the tests...and the windows system ino....when i

> right

> click properties on my computer shows 1 gig and startup shows 1 gig, and

> memetest shows 1 gig ...I think...

>

> im confused on this more...How do I check bank allotments.....If it is in

> Bios Im locked out, for some reason admin password do not now, and it is

> not

> blank...i tried a website on here to reset it but didnt work. But when I

> amke a change in RAM, the startup screen tells me what it found and asks

> f1

> to save f2 to ignore, so that is how I knew the bios was correct when

> stared

> 1024

> "Lil' Dave" wrote:

>

>> "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:96FB73FF-DC21-4A7A-916D-2FDF4D180977@microsoft.com...

>> > Hello,

>> > I kept getting these errors in Windows xp, rebooting and blue screen

>> > etc.

>> > I found out my 512k memory card was bad, so i was only left with the

>> > 256

>> > k

>> > card.

>> > so i bought 2 kingston pc2700 ddr333 (crucial.com says this is the size

>> > that

>> > will work), but actually received 2 pc2100 ddr266 (kingston.com says

>> > this

>> > is

>> > the size that will work)

>> > whatver the case may e they should both work. Windows says I am

>> > running 1

>> > gig like normal, but the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was

>> > running

>> > before.

>> > ANyway, the memory tests i run online ALL say I have 512k, and only 1

>> > slot

>>

>> Is one of the online test at crucial.com?

>>

>> > is being used.

>> > I tried both cards, in both slots, and each card alone, and each card

>> > with

>> > my 256, and every time, it staes only one slot is filled and 512k.

>>

>> Why did you keep the 256K module?

>> Why is it in there?

>>

>> > Is this a windows error the scan is picking up.

>> > Is there something in windows that will show me the ACTUAL ram i have

>> > and

>> > ACTUAL htat is being used.

>> > I may have 1 gig like windows says, but is it possible only 512 is

>> > being

>> > used ?

>>

>> Pull the 256K module, and try again. Check "bank" allotments for each

>> RAM

>> slot as appropriate to your motherboard.

>> --

>> Dave

>>

>> New drilling sites for oil offshore and other

>> sensitive places. Question is, will that oil

>> go here in the U.S., or someplace else for sale?

>>

>>

>>

Guest Daave
Posted

Re: RAM size

 

 

"Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:2DA378BE-9394-4A8B-95DF-DC9770A09941@microsoft.com...

> Thanks Dave,

>

> I tried Memtest and it said total RAM was 1024

> Cashe 1 8K ?

> Cashe 2 512m ?

>

> Anyway, Crucial.com says 1 512 stick, and at startup and windows

> system

> properties shows 1 gig.

> But windows system info shows total physcial memory 512.00MB

> using start-run-(msinfo32)

>

> I am confused....

 

Are you able to go back to the congifuration you had prior to purchasing

the two most recent RAM sticks (the 256MB Infinity and the 512MB Nanya)?

Run all the scans and report back. As Ken stated, that may be all you

need.

Posted

Re: RAM size

 

Daave,

 

The nanay 512 is dead, I kept getting blu screen errors, windows rebooting,

and lost or missing pci.sys, ntfs.sys errors, and pinpointed it to this chip

I only had the 256 so decided to buy two 512, max per slot per crucial,

kingston websites.

When i had that confi, it said 768 showing two slots filled.

 

"Daave" wrote:

>

> "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:2DA378BE-9394-4A8B-95DF-DC9770A09941@microsoft.com...

> > Thanks Dave,

> >

> > I tried Memtest and it said total RAM was 1024

> > Cashe 1 8K ?

> > Cashe 2 512m ?

> >

> > Anyway, Crucial.com says 1 512 stick, and at startup and windows

> > system

> > properties shows 1 gig.

> > But windows system info shows total physcial memory 512.00MB

> > using start-run-(msinfo32)

> >

> > I am confused....

>

> Are you able to go back to the congifuration you had prior to purchasing

> the two most recent RAM sticks (the 256MB Infinity and the 512MB Nanya)?

> Run all the scans and report back. As Ken stated, that may be all you

> need.

>

>

>

Posted

Re: RAM size

 

thanks dave,

 

they are the same model ram modules though

 

"Lil' Dave" wrote:

> Most motherboards share a bank across two RAM slots. That can be a problem,

> in some cases, when using a different size RAM module sharing the same bank.

> And, compounds differential optimum timing for a single RAM module vs

> multiple RAM modules across bank shared RAM slots.

>

> --

> Dave

>

> New drilling sites for oil offshore and other

> sensitive places. Question is, will that oil

> go here in the U.S., or someplace else for sale?

> "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:9EDEC0F0-BAF6-4ED6-9B6E-F372A748DA37@microsoft.com...

> > Hi Dave,

> >

> > I tried Memtest and it said total RAM was 1024

> > Cashe 1 8K ?

> > Cashe 2 512m ?

> >

> > Anyway, Crucial.com says 1 512 stick, and at startup and windows system

> > properties shows 1 gig.

> > But windows system info shows total physcial memory 512.00MB

> > using start-run-(msinfo32)

> >

> > I am confused....

> >

> > As far as the 256, it is out. I tried each of the 3 sticks with another

> > to

> > see what comes up for each test.

> > The only ones that werea ccurate was the 256 alone, and one 512 stick

> > alone.

> > When the other 512 stick or 256 stick is in with a 512, it still only

> > shows

> > 512, not 768 or 1024.

> >

> > Now my 512 nanyo that died, I ran it with the 256 stick, and tests showed

> > 768, and windows showed 768, and bios showed 768.

> >

> > But now only 512 for the tests...and the windows system ino....when i

> > right

> > click properties on my computer shows 1 gig and startup shows 1 gig, and

> > memetest shows 1 gig ...I think...

> >

> > im confused on this more...How do I check bank allotments.....If it is in

> > Bios Im locked out, for some reason admin password do not now, and it is

> > not

> > blank...i tried a website on here to reset it but didnt work. But when I

> > amke a change in RAM, the startup screen tells me what it found and asks

> > f1

> > to save f2 to ignore, so that is how I knew the bios was correct when

> > stared

> > 1024

> > "Lil' Dave" wrote:

> >

> >> "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:96FB73FF-DC21-4A7A-916D-2FDF4D180977@microsoft.com...

> >> > Hello,

> >> > I kept getting these errors in Windows xp, rebooting and blue screen

> >> > etc.

> >> > I found out my 512k memory card was bad, so i was only left with the

> >> > 256

> >> > k

> >> > card.

> >> > so i bought 2 kingston pc2700 ddr333 (crucial.com says this is the size

> >> > that

> >> > will work), but actually received 2 pc2100 ddr266 (kingston.com says

> >> > this

> >> > is

> >> > the size that will work)

> >> > whatver the case may e they should both work. Windows says I am

> >> > running 1

> >> > gig like normal, but the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was

> >> > running

> >> > before.

> >> > ANyway, the memory tests i run online ALL say I have 512k, and only 1

> >> > slot

> >>

> >> Is one of the online test at crucial.com?

> >>

> >> > is being used.

> >> > I tried both cards, in both slots, and each card alone, and each card

> >> > with

> >> > my 256, and every time, it staes only one slot is filled and 512k.

> >>

> >> Why did you keep the 256K module?

> >> Why is it in there?

> >>

> >> > Is this a windows error the scan is picking up.

> >> > Is there something in windows that will show me the ACTUAL ram i have

> >> > and

> >> > ACTUAL htat is being used.

> >> > I may have 1 gig like windows says, but is it possible only 512 is

> >> > being

> >> > used ?

> >>

> >> Pull the 256K module, and try again. Check "bank" allotments for each

> >> RAM

> >> slot as appropriate to your motherboard.

> >> --

> >> Dave

> >>

> >> New drilling sites for oil offshore and other

> >> sensitive places. Question is, will that oil

> >> go here in the U.S., or someplace else for sale?

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

Guest Daave
Posted

Re: RAM size

 

Please let me know if I got this right . :-)

 

You have three sticks of RAM (I'm not counting the stick you identified

as dead). One (the original, presumably) is 256 MB. The other two, which

you recently purchased from an Ebay seller whose reputation is less than

stellar, are each 512 MB.

 

If the above is right and assuming your BIOS is configured correctly

(that might be a big if!), then you need to test each stick of RAM using

both programs I mentioned earlier. And I mean test! You need to

determine if any or both of the new ones is defective. For example,

place one of the new 512MB sticks in the first slot (nothing else in the

other!). Test it. Use both programs. Repeat the procedure in the other

slot. Then do the same thing with the other stick.

 

Or perhaps you've done this already. In another post, did you pretty

much say one of the new sticks isn't working right? If that's the case,

can you run with 768MB (using the two sticks that are known to work)? If

so, the mystery is solved!

 

What kind of graphics card do you have? Is it a discrete card? Or is it

onboard?

 

Whether or not you need to access the BIOS for this particular issue,

you really should resolve that issue. You should post to the appropriate

HP forum.

 

 

 

"Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:6C666DB1-1DB3-466F-97E7-AABAD891543E@microsoft.com...

> Daave,

>

> The nanay 512 is dead, I kept getting blu screen errors, windows

> rebooting,

> and lost or missing pci.sys, ntfs.sys errors, and pinpointed it to

> this chip

> I only had the 256 so decided to buy two 512, max per slot per

> crucial,

> kingston websites.

> When i had that confi, it said 768 showing two slots filled.

>

> "Daave" wrote:

>

>>

>> "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:2DA378BE-9394-4A8B-95DF-DC9770A09941@microsoft.com...

>> > Thanks Dave,

>> >

>> > I tried Memtest and it said total RAM was 1024

>> > Cashe 1 8K ?

>> > Cashe 2 512m ?

>> >

>> > Anyway, Crucial.com says 1 512 stick, and at startup and windows

>> > system

>> > properties shows 1 gig.

>> > But windows system info shows total physcial memory 512.00MB

>> > using start-run-(msinfo32)

>> >

>> > I am confused....

>>

>> Are you able to go back to the congifuration you had prior to

>> purchasing

>> the two most recent RAM sticks (the 256MB Infinity and the 512MB

>> Nanya)?

>> Run all the scans and report back. As Ken stated, that may be all you

>> need.

>>

>>

>>

Posted

Re: RAM size

 

Dave,

 

Correct, i have 3 sticks, 256, and two 512's and dispute with paypal ongoing

now

:-(

I ran Memtest86 with both the 512's in and both were fine, and stataed i had

1024.

I ran it with one 512 and the 256 as well.

It seems the only issues that state I have 512 when both slots are filled

and have 1024 is crucial.com, and in windows/start/run/msinfo32

says my total physcial memory is 512.

 

I just posted today on compaq site, hoepfully I can get more info there.

I looked for a bios update, there is a few but not sure what I need...what

is a bios flash anyway ? someone mentioned that may help me

 

I guess I should belive memtest.

 

Is there somehwere in windows that I should check to verify actaula memeory,

or do you think my system properties and memetest results stating 1024 is

accurate and good enough?I do not know graphics card, it is a COMPAQ EVO N610c

 

States card is an moility radeon 7500.

not sure if it is onboard or what

 

"Daave" wrote:

> Please let me know if I got this right . :-)

>

> You have three sticks of RAM (I'm not counting the stick you identified

> as dead). One (the original, presumably) is 256 MB. The other two, which

> you recently purchased from an Ebay seller whose reputation is less than

> stellar, are each 512 MB.

>

> If the above is right and assuming your BIOS is configured correctly

> (that might be a big if!), then you need to test each stick of RAM using

> both programs I mentioned earlier. And I mean test! You need to

> determine if any or both of the new ones is defective. For example,

> place one of the new 512MB sticks in the first slot (nothing else in the

> other!). Test it. Use both programs. Repeat the procedure in the other

> slot. Then do the same thing with the other stick.

>

> Or perhaps you've done this already. In another post, did you pretty

> much say one of the new sticks isn't working right? If that's the case,

> can you run with 768MB (using the two sticks that are known to work)? If

> so, the mystery is solved!

>

> What kind of graphics card do you have? Is it a discrete card? Or is it

> onboard?

>

> Whether or not you need to access the BIOS for this particular issue,

> you really should resolve that issue. You should post to the appropriate

> HP forum.

>

>

>

> "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:6C666DB1-1DB3-466F-97E7-AABAD891543E@microsoft.com...

> > Daave,

> >

> > The nanay 512 is dead, I kept getting blu screen errors, windows

> > rebooting,

> > and lost or missing pci.sys, ntfs.sys errors, and pinpointed it to

> > this chip

> > I only had the 256 so decided to buy two 512, max per slot per

> > crucial,

> > kingston websites.

> > When i had that confi, it said 768 showing two slots filled.

> >

> > "Daave" wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:2DA378BE-9394-4A8B-95DF-DC9770A09941@microsoft.com...

> >> > Thanks Dave,

> >> >

> >> > I tried Memtest and it said total RAM was 1024

> >> > Cashe 1 8K ?

> >> > Cashe 2 512m ?

> >> >

> >> > Anyway, Crucial.com says 1 512 stick, and at startup and windows

> >> > system

> >> > properties shows 1 gig.

> >> > But windows system info shows total physcial memory 512.00MB

> >> > using start-run-(msinfo32)

> >> >

> >> > I am confused....

> >>

> >> Are you able to go back to the congifuration you had prior to

> >> purchasing

> >> the two most recent RAM sticks (the 256MB Infinity and the 512MB

> >> Nanya)?

> >> Run all the scans and report back. As Ken stated, that may be all you

> >> need.

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

Guest Daave
Posted

Re: RAM size

 

 

"Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:CBBEF9D7-888F-4FD8-A69F-4BFB16400C4A@microsoft.com...

> Dave,

>

> Correct, i have 3 sticks, 256, and two 512's and dispute with paypal

> ongoing

> now

> :-(

> I ran Memtest86 with both the 512's in and both were fine, and stataed

> i had

> 1024.

> I ran it with one 512 and the 256 as well.

> It seems the only issues that state I have 512 when both slots are

> filled

> and have 1024 is crucial.com, and in windows/start/run/msinfo32

> says my total physcial memory is 512.

 

So is you have one 256MB and one 512MB, what is your total physical

memory when you run msinfo32?

 

If all of your sticks are in good shape, my guess is that you need to

change a BIOS setting.

> I looked for a bios update, there is a few but not sure what I

> need...what

> is a bios flash anyway ? someone mentioned that may help me

 

Flashing the BIOS chip is a way to upgrade it. But this is probably not

necessary, Still, you need to enter the BIOS and note the settings.

Hopefully there is one for RAM you can change to the proper value.

Posted

Re: RAM size

 

Daave,

 

The 256 is extra. I only have two slots and 512 in each slot.

Msinfo32 says I have 512 physcial memory,

Crucial.com says i have 512

 

windows system properties as well as startup says 1024

but maybe most importantly, memtest86+ says 1024

 

Even when I have the 256 in with a 512, everything is the same it only picks

up 512. except the tests that are correct above, memtest says 768

 

"Daave" wrote:

>

> "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:CBBEF9D7-888F-4FD8-A69F-4BFB16400C4A@microsoft.com...

> > Dave,

> >

> > Correct, i have 3 sticks, 256, and two 512's and dispute with paypal

> > ongoing

> > now

> > :-(

> > I ran Memtest86 with both the 512's in and both were fine, and stataed

> > i had

> > 1024.

> > I ran it with one 512 and the 256 as well.

> > It seems the only issues that state I have 512 when both slots are

> > filled

> > and have 1024 is crucial.com, and in windows/start/run/msinfo32

> > says my total physcial memory is 512.

>

> So is you have one 256MB and one 512MB, what is your total physical

> memory when you run msinfo32?

>

> If all of your sticks are in good shape, my guess is that you need to

> change a BIOS setting.

>

> > I looked for a bios update, there is a few but not sure what I

> > need...what

> > is a bios flash anyway ? someone mentioned that may help me

>

> Flashing the BIOS chip is a way to upgrade it. But this is probably not

> necessary, Still, you need to enter the BIOS and note the settings.

> Hopefully there is one for RAM you can change to the proper value.

>

>

>

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