Guest Daave Posted July 7, 2008 Posted July 7, 2008 Re: RAM size Bob wrote: > The 256 is extra. I only have two slots and 512 in each slot. > Msinfo32 says I have 512 physcial memory, > Crucial.com says i have 512 > > windows system properties as well as startup says 1024 > but maybe most importantly, memtest86+ says 1024 > > Even when I have the 256 in with a 512, everything is the same it > only picks up 512. except the tests that are correct above, memtest > says 768 Sounds like a BIOS setting issue. While booting up, F10 should get you into the BIOS (aka Computer Setup). Under Boot Options, you should see the following: <quote> QuickBoot, which starts the notebook more quickly by eliminating some startup tests. (If you suspect a memory failure and want to test memory automatically during startup, disable QuickBoot.) </quote> Disabling QuickBoot (thereby allowing for a full boot) will hopefully recount the memory. If you are unable to enter the BIOS, you should post to the HP forum for assistance.
Guest Bob Posted July 7, 2008 Posted July 7, 2008 Re: RAM size Yes, I was thinking it may be a BIOS issue, but can't get in. I want to just delete the SAM file, bt not ure if tat is a good idea. I did post in Compaq forum two days but no answers yet. Not as busy as here. Thanks for all your help and responses, it is much appreicated. ! Bob "Daave" wrote: > Bob wrote: > > The 256 is extra. I only have two slots and 512 in each slot. > > Msinfo32 says I have 512 physcial memory, > > Crucial.com says i have 512 > > > > windows system properties as well as startup says 1024 > > but maybe most importantly, memtest86+ says 1024 > > > > Even when I have the 256 in with a 512, everything is the same it > > only picks up 512. except the tests that are correct above, memtest > > says 768 > > Sounds like a BIOS setting issue. While booting up, F10 should get you > into the BIOS (aka Computer Setup). Under Boot Options, you should see > the following: > > <quote> > QuickBoot, which starts the notebook more quickly by eliminating some > startup tests. (If you suspect a memory failure and want to test memory > automatically during startup, disable QuickBoot.) > </quote> > > Disabling QuickBoot (thereby allowing for a full boot) will hopefully > recount the memory. If you are unable to enter the BIOS, you should post > to the HP forum for assistance. > > >
Guest Daave Posted July 7, 2008 Posted July 7, 2008 Re: RAM size "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:31846378-31EB-4390-80C5-E9F5BE18AE32@microsoft.com... > Yes, I was thinking it may be a BIOS issue, but can't get in. > I want to just delete the SAM file, bt not ure if tat is a good idea. What is a SAM file? Whatever it is, I doubt it's related to the BIOS. But I'm cuirous to know what it is. When booting, what happens when you press F10? > I did post in Compaq forum two days but no answers yet. > Not as busy as here. Please post the link if you don't mind. > Thanks for all your help and responses, it is much appreicated. ! YW.
Guest Bob Posted July 7, 2008 Posted July 7, 2008 Re: RAM size I got a response, but I tried this and pulled the CMOS battery out...Ill try again I guess. http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1236819&admit=109447626+1215471781795+28353475 The SAM file explination is here...this holds all password info. Here is a post on it I found....I don't know if the SAM is associated with Bios or just Windows... ""I know this post seems a little leghntly but it's because the problem takes much to explain. A few weeks ago I made a mistake in the registry by gettings permissions to read the contents of SAM. but after I was done I deleted my permissions and let the System have full control of that key, did some work and restarted the pc but that's when I realized I did something wrong because a message saying: LSASS.EXE-SSYSTEM ERROR with the instructions to restart th pc in safe mode and read the system events for info but that meassege box still appears and it causes Windows Logon to freeze. What I ideally decided to do is plug the hard disk into my other Windows 2000 PC and use regedit to restore the SAM from the C:\WINNT\repair folder to the C:\WINNT\cofig folder but their I made another mistake because it seems that SAM was a fresh file and wh it did is disaled my original suer account and created a fresh new one. The System profiles list seems to consider the former administrator and Guest acount as unknown even though they are in the Windows NT registry key list. Being able to login I used System Restore to reverse the system to a ealier point but I keep getting the "Restore Incomplete" "no changes have been made to your system" message. There's some problems such as Explorer.exe restarts when I do right click and click the File menu and I can't access the Control Panel. I know what I should do is re-install Windows XP but I Don't have the CD because I picked up this PC up in front a moved neighbors house. Is there an alternative way around this? please help! -- Ushnell "Daave" wrote: > "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:31846378-31EB-4390-80C5-E9F5BE18AE32@microsoft.com... > > Yes, I was thinking it may be a BIOS issue, but can't get in. > > I want to just delete the SAM file, bt not ure if tat is a good idea. > > What is a SAM file? Whatever it is, I doubt it's related to the BIOS. > But I'm cuirous to know what it is. > > When booting, what happens when you press F10? > > > I did post in Compaq forum two days but no answers yet. > > Not as busy as here. > > Please post the link if you don't mind. > > > Thanks for all your help and responses, it is much appreicated. ! > > YW. > > >
Guest John John (MVP) Posted July 7, 2008 Posted July 7, 2008 Re: RAM size Bob wrote: > I got a response, but I tried this and pulled the CMOS battery out...Ill try > again I guess. > http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1236819&admit=109447626+1215471781795+28353475 > > The SAM file explination is here...this holds all password info. > Here is a post on it I found....I don't know if the SAM is associated with > Bios or just Windows... The SAM file has nothing to do with the BIOS, it's the NT Security Account Manager's database where user accounts, security descriptors and passwords are stored. If you delete this file all the local user accounts will be nullified. John
Guest Daave Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 Re: RAM size "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:DCD72188-0BB4-4D27-A0E1-4FCCFF68E144@microsoft.com... >I got a response, but I tried this and pulled the CMOS battery >out...Ill try > again I guess. > http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1236819&admit=109447626+1215471781795+28353475 > > The SAM file explination is here...this holds all password info. > Here is a post on it I found....I don't know if the SAM is associated > with > Bios or just Windows... <snip> I got it now. John John's right. The sam file has absolutely nothing to do with the BIOS. And you don't want to touch it! The site you referenced (Offline NT Password & Registry Editor) only applies to Windows. The BIOS has nothing to do with Windows. So, again, what happens exactly when you hit F10 when you boot? If you are unable to enter the BIOS, you need to start a new thread to that effect at the HP forum.
Guest Lil' Dave Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 Re: RAM size And the banks share what slots, and identical RAM modules share what slots? -- Dave Speculation on a product or material that is an obvious need, is not speculation per se as there is no risk to the speculator. Common were those selling food and other supplies in the gold rush days. In this case, its oil and its everyone who bites the bullet. And most everyone has no gold to be made, just business as usual. "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3F3A7619-74B8-4A16-A851-86F62046F9D6@microsoft.com... > thanks dave, > > they are the same model ram modules though > > "Lil' Dave" wrote: > >> Most motherboards share a bank across two RAM slots. That can be a >> problem, >> in some cases, when using a different size RAM module sharing the same >> bank. >> And, compounds differential optimum timing for a single RAM module vs >> multiple RAM modules across bank shared RAM slots. >> >> -- >> Dave >> >> New drilling sites for oil offshore and other >> sensitive places. Question is, will that oil >> go here in the U.S., or someplace else for sale? >> "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:9EDEC0F0-BAF6-4ED6-9B6E-F372A748DA37@microsoft.com... >> > Hi Dave, >> > >> > I tried Memtest and it said total RAM was 1024 >> > Cashe 1 8K ? >> > Cashe 2 512m ? >> > >> > Anyway, Crucial.com says 1 512 stick, and at startup and windows system >> > properties shows 1 gig. >> > But windows system info shows total physcial memory 512.00MB >> > using start-run-(msinfo32) >> > >> > I am confused.... >> > >> > As far as the 256, it is out. I tried each of the 3 sticks with >> > another >> > to >> > see what comes up for each test. >> > The only ones that werea ccurate was the 256 alone, and one 512 stick >> > alone. >> > When the other 512 stick or 256 stick is in with a 512, it still only >> > shows >> > 512, not 768 or 1024. >> > >> > Now my 512 nanyo that died, I ran it with the 256 stick, and tests >> > showed >> > 768, and windows showed 768, and bios showed 768. >> > >> > But now only 512 for the tests...and the windows system ino....when i >> > right >> > click properties on my computer shows 1 gig and startup shows 1 gig, >> > and >> > memetest shows 1 gig ...I think... >> > >> > im confused on this more...How do I check bank allotments.....If it is >> > in >> > Bios Im locked out, for some reason admin password do not now, and it >> > is >> > not >> > blank...i tried a website on here to reset it but didnt work. But when >> > I >> > amke a change in RAM, the startup screen tells me what it found and >> > asks >> > f1 >> > to save f2 to ignore, so that is how I knew the bios was correct when >> > stared >> > 1024 >> > "Lil' Dave" wrote: >> > >> >> "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:96FB73FF-DC21-4A7A-916D-2FDF4D180977@microsoft.com... >> >> > Hello, >> >> > I kept getting these errors in Windows xp, rebooting and blue screen >> >> > etc. >> >> > I found out my 512k memory card was bad, so i was only left with >> >> > the >> >> > 256 >> >> > k >> >> > card. >> >> > so i bought 2 kingston pc2700 ddr333 (crucial.com says this is the >> >> > size >> >> > that >> >> > will work), but actually received 2 pc2100 ddr266 (kingston.com says >> >> > this >> >> > is >> >> > the size that will work) >> >> > whatver the case may e they should both work. Windows says I am >> >> > running 1 >> >> > gig like normal, but the speed doesnt seem faster than the 768 i was >> >> > running >> >> > before. >> >> > ANyway, the memory tests i run online ALL say I have 512k, and only >> >> > 1 >> >> > slot >> >> >> >> Is one of the online test at crucial.com? >> >> >> >> > is being used. >> >> > I tried both cards, in both slots, and each card alone, and each >> >> > card >> >> > with >> >> > my 256, and every time, it staes only one slot is filled and 512k. >> >> >> >> Why did you keep the 256K module? >> >> Why is it in there? >> >> >> >> > Is this a windows error the scan is picking up. >> >> > Is there something in windows that will show me the ACTUAL ram i >> >> > have >> >> > and >> >> > ACTUAL htat is being used. >> >> > I may have 1 gig like windows says, but is it possible only 512 is >> >> > being >> >> > used ? >> >> >> >> Pull the 256K module, and try again. Check "bank" allotments for each >> >> RAM >> >> slot as appropriate to your motherboard. >> >> -- >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> New drilling sites for oil offshore and other >> >> sensitive places. Question is, will that oil >> >> go here in the U.S., or someplace else for sale? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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