Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" NTSF

[Guest GregCost]

Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my computer was

shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not

effective) and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system

files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after windows

logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows on

another drive on the system.

 

Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on the drive

to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE Visual

Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is being

kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"

 

When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at the

security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID Is not in

the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP validates it

and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I click apply

the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission changes.

Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive to the

problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.

 

Tried a couple of things:

 

Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"

"Access denied"

Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"

"Access denied"

 

I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt positioned

one level up

 

D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory)

 

Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F

NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F

<Account Domain not found>F

<Account Domain not found><OI><CI><IO>F

 

WHEN I try the following:

 

D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F

 

response 1: are you sure?

response 2: The media is write protected

 

Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question still has

permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system can't quite

figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able to copy

files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some default? or

basic property accessibility

 

Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives, SCSI

 

Thanks Greg

[Guest JS]

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" NTSF

 

Access is Denied Error Message XP Pro:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810881

 

Shared folder access:

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/sdperms.htm

 

Also read this MS KB article about how to take ownership of files.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=308421

 

Understanding and Applying NTFS Permission in Windows XP Professional

http://www.winxpsolution.com/ApplyingNTFSXPPro.aspx

 

There is also a utility named: Unlocker

I have not used it but it has been mentioned a number of times.

http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/

 

JS

 

 

"GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:F5D0845F-FDAE-4501-85CF-96139533A8F9@microsoft.com...

> Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my computer

> was

> shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not

> effective) and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system

> files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after

> windows

> logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows on

> another drive on the system.

>

> Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on the

> drive

> to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE Visual

> Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is

> being

> kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"

>

> When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at the

> security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID Is not

> in

> the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP validates it

> and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I click

> apply

> the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission

> changes.

> Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive to

> the

> problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.

>

> Tried a couple of things:

>

> Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"

> "Access denied"

> Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"

> "Access denied"

>

> I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt positioned

> one level up

>

> D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory)

>

> Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F

> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F

> <Account Domain not found>F

> <Account Domain not

> found><OI><CI><IO>F

>

> WHEN I try the following:

>

> D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F

>

> response 1: are you sure?

> response 2: The media is write protected

>

> Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question still

> has

> permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system can't

> quite

> figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able to

> copy

> files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some default?

> or

> basic property accessibility

>

> Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives,

> SCSI

>

> Thanks Greg

>

[Guest Ken Blake, MVP]

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" NTSF

 

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost

<GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my computer was

> shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not

> effective)

 

 

You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll

address the question in your parenthesis above.

 

A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much

more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection

against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line

and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around

 

Two more points:

 

1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power

strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension

cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent

surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.

 

2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no

longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all

surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting.

 

> and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system

> files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after windows

> logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows on

> another drive on the system.

>

> Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on the drive

> to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE Visual

> Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is being

> kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"

>

> When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at the

> security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID Is not in

> the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP validates it

> and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I click apply

> the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission changes.

> Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive to the

> problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.

>

> Tried a couple of things:

>

> Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"

> "Access denied"

> Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"

> "Access denied"

>

> I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt positioned

> one level up

>

> D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory)

>

> Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F

> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F

> <Account Domain not found>F

> <Account Domain not found><OI><CI><IO>F

>

> WHEN I try the following:

>

> D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F

>

> response 1: are you sure?

> response 2: The media is write protected

>

> Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question still has

> permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system can't quite

> figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able to copy

> files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some default? or

> basic property accessibility

>

> Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives, SCSI

>

> Thanks Greg

 

--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

Please Reply to the Newsgroup

[Guest GregCost]

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

 

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

 

Hi Ken, JS,

 

I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge protector is a

cheap one - no more.

 

Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly

 

Greg

 

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost

> <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>

> > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my computer was

> > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not

> > effective)

>

>

> You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll

> address the question in your parenthesis above.

>

> A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much

> more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection

> against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line

> and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around

>

> Two more points:

>

> 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power

> strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension

> cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent

> surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.

>

> 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no

> longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all

> surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting.

>

>

> > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system

> > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after windows

> > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows on

> > another drive on the system.

> >

> > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on the drive

> > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE Visual

> > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is being

> > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"

> >

> > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at the

> > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID Is not in

> > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP validates it

> > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I click apply

> > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission changes.

> > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive to the

> > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.

> >

> > Tried a couple of things:

> >

> > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"

> > "Access denied"

> > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"

> > "Access denied"

> >

> > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt positioned

> > one level up

> >

> > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory)

> >

> > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F

> > NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F

> > <Account Domain not found>F

> > <Account Domain not found><OI><CI><IO>F

> >

> > WHEN I try the following:

> >

> > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F

> >

> > response 1: are you sure?

> > response 2: The media is write protected

> >

> > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question still has

> > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system can't quite

> > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able to copy

> > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some default? or

> > basic property accessibility

> >

> > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives, SCSI

> >

> > Thanks Greg

>

> --

> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>

[Guest GregCost]

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

 

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

 

Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the changes to

wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error:

0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected.

 

I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what and

where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013 error.

On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @ 137Gig. The

failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives; the new XP home edition with service

pack 3 installed.

 

The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard shutdown

on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not sure

that’s even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives thru

the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write protection

option turned on. I’ll also check to see if there is a jumper on the drive

for write protection.

 

Other possibilities … I did notice some sort of security ID that has a

Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP… when I

try and delete it XP report s the same “Media write Protect”.

 

Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above?

 

Open to additional suggestions.

 

Thanks Greg

 

 

"GregCost" wrote:

> Hi Ken, JS,

>

> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge protector is a

> cheap one - no more.

>

> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly

>

> Greg

>

> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

>

> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost

> > <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> >

> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my computer was

> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not

> > > effective)

> >

> >

> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll

> > address the question in your parenthesis above.

> >

> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much

> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection

> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line

> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around

> >

> > Two more points:

> >

> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power

> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension

> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent

> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.

> >

> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no

> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all

> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting.

> >

> >

> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system

> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after windows

> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows on

> > > another drive on the system.

> > >

> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on the drive

> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE Visual

> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is being

> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"

> > >

> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at the

> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID Is not in

> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP validates it

> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I click apply

> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission changes.

> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive to the

> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.

> > >

> > > Tried a couple of things:

> > >

> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"

> > > "Access denied"

> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"

> > > "Access denied"

> > >

> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt positioned

> > > one level up

> > >

> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory)

> > >

> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F

> > > NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F

> > > <Account Domain not found>F

> > > <Account Domain not found><OI><CI><IO>F

> > >

> > > WHEN I try the following:

> > >

> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F

> > >

> > > response 1: are you sure?

> > > response 2: The media is write protected

> > >

> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question still has

> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system can't quite

> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able to copy

> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some default? or

> > > basic property accessibility

> > >

> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives, SCSI

> > >

> > > Thanks Greg

> >

> > --

> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

> >

[Guest JS]

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

 

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

 

You can use one of the two bootable CDs to retrieve those files.

 

BART PE

http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

 

Puppy Linux:

http://www.puppylinux.org/

 

JS

 

"GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:FE4EB5C2-4B3D-4C51-A1C2-FFA621AA206F@microsoft.com...

> Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the changes to

> wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error:

> 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected.

>

> I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what and

> where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013 error.

> On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @ 137Gig.

> The

> failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives; the new XP home edition with

> service

> pack 3 installed.

>

> The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard

> shutdown

> on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not sure

> that's even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives thru

> the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write

> protection

> option turned on. I'll also check to see if there is a jumper on the

> drive

> for write protection.

>

> Other possibilities . I did notice some sort of security ID that has a

> Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP. when

> I

> try and delete it XP report s the same "Media write Protect".

>

> Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above?

>

> Open to additional suggestions.

>

> Thanks Greg

>

>

> "GregCost" wrote:

>

>> Hi Ken, JS,

>>

>> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge protector is

>> a

>> cheap one - no more.

>>

>> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly

>>

>> Greg

>>

>> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

>>

>> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost

>> > <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>> >

>> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my

>> > > computer was

>> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not

>> > > effective)

>> >

>> >

>> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll

>> > address the question in your parenthesis above.

>> >

>> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much

>> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection

>> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line

>> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around

>> >

>> > Two more points:

>> >

>> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power

>> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension

>> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent

>> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.

>> >

>> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no

>> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all

>> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting.

>> >

>> >

>> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system

>> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after

>> > > windows

>> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows

>> > > on

>> > > another drive on the system.

>> > >

>> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on

>> > > the drive

>> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE

>> > > Visual

>> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is

>> > > being

>> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"

>> > >

>> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at

>> > > the

>> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID

>> > > Is not in

>> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP

>> > > validates it

>> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I

>> > > click apply

>> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission

>> > > changes.

>> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive

>> > > to the

>> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.

>> > >

>> > > Tried a couple of things:

>> > >

>> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"

>> > > "Access denied"

>> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"

>> > > "Access denied"

>> > >

>> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt

>> > > positioned

>> > > one level up

>> > >

>> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory)

>> > >

>> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F

>> > > NT

>> > > AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F

>> > > <Account Domain not found>F

>> > > <Account Domain not

>> > > found><OI><CI><IO>F

>> > >

>> > > WHEN I try the following:

>> > >

>> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F

>> > >

>> > > response 1: are you sure?

>> > > response 2: The media is write protected

>> > >

>> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question

>> > > still has

>> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system

>> > > can't quite

>> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able

>> > > to copy

>> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some

>> > > default? or

>> > > basic property accessibility

>> > >

>> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives,

>> > > SCSI

>> > >

>> > > Thanks Greg

>> >

>> > --

>> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

>> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>> >

[Guest GregCost]

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

 

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

 

I'll give it a try, thanks JS

 

Greg

 

"JS" wrote:

> You can use one of the two bootable CDs to retrieve those files.

>

> BART PE

> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

>

> Puppy Linux:

> http://www.puppylinux.org/

>

> JS

>

> "GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:FE4EB5C2-4B3D-4C51-A1C2-FFA621AA206F@microsoft.com...

> > Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the changes to

> > wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error:

> > 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected.

> >

> > I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what and

> > where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013 error.

> > On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @ 137Gig.

> > The

> > failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives; the new XP home edition with

> > service

> > pack 3 installed.

> >

> > The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard

> > shutdown

> > on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not sure

> > that's even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives thru

> > the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write

> > protection

> > option turned on. I'll also check to see if there is a jumper on the

> > drive

> > for write protection.

> >

> > Other possibilities . I did notice some sort of security ID that has a

> > Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP. when

> > I

> > try and delete it XP report s the same "Media write Protect".

> >

> > Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above?

> >

> > Open to additional suggestions.

> >

> > Thanks Greg

> >

> >

> > "GregCost" wrote:

> >

> >> Hi Ken, JS,

> >>

> >> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge protector is

> >> a

> >> cheap one - no more.

> >>

> >> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly

> >>

> >> Greg

> >>

> >> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> >>

> >> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost

> >> > <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> >> >

> >> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my

> >> > > computer was

> >> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not

> >> > > effective)

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll

> >> > address the question in your parenthesis above.

> >> >

> >> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much

> >> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection

> >> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line

> >> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around

> >> >

> >> > Two more points:

> >> >

> >> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power

> >> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension

> >> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent

> >> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.

> >> >

> >> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no

> >> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all

> >> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system

> >> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after

> >> > > windows

> >> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows

> >> > > on

> >> > > another drive on the system.

> >> > >

> >> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on

> >> > > the drive

> >> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE

> >> > > Visual

> >> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is

> >> > > being

> >> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"

> >> > >

> >> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at

> >> > > the

> >> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID

> >> > > Is not in

> >> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP

> >> > > validates it

> >> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I

> >> > > click apply

> >> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission

> >> > > changes.

> >> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive

> >> > > to the

> >> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.

> >> > >

> >> > > Tried a couple of things:

> >> > >

> >> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"

> >> > > "Access denied"

> >> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"

> >> > > "Access denied"

> >> > >

> >> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt

> >> > > positioned

> >> > > one level up

> >> > >

> >> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory)

> >> > >

> >> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F

> >> > > NT

> >> > > AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F

> >> > > <Account Domain not found>F

> >> > > <Account Domain not

> >> > > found><OI><CI><IO>F

> >> > >

> >> > > WHEN I try the following:

> >> > >

> >> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F

> >> > >

> >> > > response 1: are you sure?

> >> > > response 2: The media is write protected

> >> > >

> >> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question

> >> > > still has

> >> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system

> >> > > can't quite

> >> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able

> >> > > to copy

> >> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some

> >> > > default? or

> >> > > basic property accessibility

> >> > >

> >> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives,

> >> > > SCSI

> >> > >

> >> > > Thanks Greg

> >> >

> >> > --

> >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

> >> >

>

>

>

[Guest GregCost]

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

 

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

 

Worked like a champ; I was ablt to retrieve the data obviously ignoring the

drive's settings. ... Thanks JS and thank you Ken.

 

I have a close friend who's a hard drive design engineer works mostly on

SCSI. I am going to find out what bits, on the drive, were turned on or

trashed indicating "media protect". Also if there is a zap util to change

the pattern. I'll post the results here.

 

Thanks again guys. Greg

 

 

 

 

 

"GregCost" wrote:

> I'll give it a try, thanks JS

>

> Greg

>

> "JS" wrote:

>

> > You can use one of the two bootable CDs to retrieve those files.

> >

> > BART PE

> > http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

> >

> > Puppy Linux:

> > http://www.puppylinux.org/

> >

> > JS

> >

> > "GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:FE4EB5C2-4B3D-4C51-A1C2-FFA621AA206F@microsoft.com...

> > > Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the changes to

> > > wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error:

> > > 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected.

> > >

> > > I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what and

> > > where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013 error.

> > > On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @ 137Gig.

> > > The

> > > failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives; the new XP home edition with

> > > service

> > > pack 3 installed.

> > >

> > > The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard

> > > shutdown

> > > on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not sure

> > > that's even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives thru

> > > the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write

> > > protection

> > > option turned on. I'll also check to see if there is a jumper on the

> > > drive

> > > for write protection.

> > >

> > > Other possibilities . I did notice some sort of security ID that has a

> > > Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP. when

> > > I

> > > try and delete it XP report s the same "Media write Protect".

> > >

> > > Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above?

> > >

> > > Open to additional suggestions.

> > >

> > > Thanks Greg

> > >

> > >

> > > "GregCost" wrote:

> > >

> > >> Hi Ken, JS,

> > >>

> > >> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge protector is

> > >> a

> > >> cheap one - no more.

> > >>

> > >> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly

> > >>

> > >> Greg

> > >>

> > >> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> > >>

> > >> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost

> > >> > <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> > >> >

> > >> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my

> > >> > > computer was

> > >> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not

> > >> > > effective)

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll

> > >> > address the question in your parenthesis above.

> > >> >

> > >> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much

> > >> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection

> > >> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line

> > >> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around

> > >> >

> > >> > Two more points:

> > >> >

> > >> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power

> > >> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension

> > >> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent

> > >> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.

> > >> >

> > >> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no

> > >> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all

> > >> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting.

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system

> > >> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after

> > >> > > windows

> > >> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows

> > >> > > on

> > >> > > another drive on the system.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on

> > >> > > the drive

> > >> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE

> > >> > > Visual

> > >> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is

> > >> > > being

> > >> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"

> > >> > >

> > >> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at

> > >> > > the

> > >> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID

> > >> > > Is not in

> > >> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP

> > >> > > validates it

> > >> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I

> > >> > > click apply

> > >> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission

> > >> > > changes.

> > >> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive

> > >> > > to the

> > >> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Tried a couple of things:

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"

> > >> > > "Access denied"

> > >> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"

> > >> > > "Access denied"

> > >> > >

> > >> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt

> > >> > > positioned

> > >> > > one level up

> > >> > >

> > >> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory)

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F

> > >> > > NT

> > >> > > AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F

> > >> > > <Account Domain not found>F

> > >> > > <Account Domain not

> > >> > > found><OI><CI><IO>F

> > >> > >

> > >> > > WHEN I try the following:

> > >> > >

> > >> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F

> > >> > >

> > >> > > response 1: are you sure?

> > >> > > response 2: The media is write protected

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question

> > >> > > still has

> > >> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system

> > >> > > can't quite

> > >> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able

> > >> > > to copy

> > >> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some

> > >> > > default? or

> > >> > > basic property accessibility

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives,

> > >> > > SCSI

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Thanks Greg

> > >> >

> > >> > --

> > >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> > >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

> > >> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest JS]

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Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

 

You're welcome.

By the way, which utility did you use?

 

JS

 

"GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:48EEF489-0110-46D9-BD47-72F0C9B9275A@microsoft.com...

> Worked like a champ; I was ablt to retrieve the data obviously ignoring

> the

> drive's settings. ... Thanks JS and thank you Ken.

>

> I have a close friend who's a hard drive design engineer works mostly on

> SCSI. I am going to find out what bits, on the drive, were turned on or

> trashed indicating "media protect". Also if there is a zap util to change

> the pattern. I'll post the results here.

>

> Thanks again guys. Greg

>

>

>

>

>

> "GregCost" wrote:

>

>> I'll give it a try, thanks JS

>>

>> Greg

>>

>> "JS" wrote:

>>

>> > You can use one of the two bootable CDs to retrieve those files.

>> >

>> > BART PE

>> > http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

>> >

>> > Puppy Linux:

>> > http://www.puppylinux.org/

>> >

>> > JS

>> >

>> > "GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> > news:FE4EB5C2-4B3D-4C51-A1C2-FFA621AA206F@microsoft.com...

>> > > Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the

>> > > changes to

>> > > wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error:

>> > > 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected.

>> > >

>> > > I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what

>> > > and

>> > > where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013

>> > > error.

>> > > On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @

>> > > 137Gig.

>> > > The

>> > > failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives; the new XP home edition with

>> > > service

>> > > pack 3 installed.

>> > >

>> > > The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard

>> > > shutdown

>> > > on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not

>> > > sure

>> > > that's even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives

>> > > thru

>> > > the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write

>> > > protection

>> > > option turned on. I'll also check to see if there is a jumper on the

>> > > drive

>> > > for write protection.

>> > >

>> > > Other possibilities . I did notice some sort of security ID that has

>> > > a

>> > > Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP.

>> > > when

>> > > I

>> > > try and delete it XP report s the same "Media write Protect".

>> > >

>> > > Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above?

>> > >

>> > > Open to additional suggestions.

>> > >

>> > > Thanks Greg

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > "GregCost" wrote:

>> > >

>> > >> Hi Ken, JS,

>> > >>

>> > >> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge

>> > >> protector is

>> > >> a

>> > >> cheap one - no more.

>> > >>

>> > >> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly

>> > >>

>> > >> Greg

>> > >>

>> > >> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

>> > >>

>> > >> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost

>> > >> > <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>> > >> >

>> > >> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my

>> > >> > > computer was

>> > >> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it

>> > >> > > was not

>> > >> > > effective)

>> > >> >

>> > >> >

>> > >> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but

>> > >> > I'll

>> > >> > address the question in your parenthesis above.

>> > >> >

>> > >> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of

>> > >> > volts--much

>> > >> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection

>> > >> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power

>> > >> > line

>> > >> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around

>> > >> >

>> > >> > Two more points:

>> > >> >

>> > >> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power

>> > >> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy

>> > >> > extension

>> > >> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A

>> > >> > decent

>> > >> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.

>> > >> >

>> > >> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no

>> > >> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge,

>> > >> > all

>> > >> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting.

>> > >> >

>> > >> >

>> > >> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system

>> > >> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death

>> > >> > > after

>> > >> > > windows

>> > >> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install

>> > >> > > Windows

>> > >> > > on

>> > >> > > another drive on the system.

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere

>> > >> > > on

>> > >> > > the drive

>> > >> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF

>> > >> > > COURSE

>> > >> > > Visual

>> > >> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important

>> > >> > > stuff is

>> > >> > > being

>> > >> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look

>> > >> > > at

>> > >> > > the

>> > >> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my

>> > >> > > SID

>> > >> > > Is not in

>> > >> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP

>> > >> > > validates it

>> > >> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I

>> > >> > > click apply

>> > >> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply

>> > >> > > permission

>> > >> > > changes.

>> > >> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows

>> > >> > > drive

>> > >> > > to the

>> > >> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > Tried a couple of things:

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is

>> > >> > > protected"

>> > >> > > "Access denied"

>> > >> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is

>> > >> > > protected"

>> > >> > > "Access denied"

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt

>> > >> > > positioned

>> > >> > > one level up

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub

>> > >> > > directory)

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F

>> > >> > > NT

>> > >> > > AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F

>> > >> > > <Account Domain not

>> > >> > > found>F

>> > >> > > <Account Domain not

>> > >> > > found><OI><CI><IO>F

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > WHEN I try the following:

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > response 1: are you sure?

>> > >> > > response 2: The media is write protected

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in

>> > >> > > question

>> > >> > > still has

>> > >> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system

>> > >> > > can't quite

>> > >> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am

>> > >> > > able

>> > >> > > to copy

>> > >> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is

>> > >> > > some

>> > >> > > default? or

>> > >> > > basic property accessibility

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all

>> > >> > > drives,

>> > >> > > SCSI

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > Thanks Greg

>> > >> >

>> > >> > --

>> > >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

>> > >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>> > >> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest GregCost]

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Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

 

PeBuilder. Greg

 

"JS" wrote:

> You're welcome.

> By the way, which utility did you use?

>

> JS

>

> "GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:48EEF489-0110-46D9-BD47-72F0C9B9275A@microsoft.com...

> > Worked like a champ; I was ablt to retrieve the data obviously ignoring

> > the

> > drive's settings. ... Thanks JS and thank you Ken.

> >

> > I have a close friend who's a hard drive design engineer works mostly on

> > SCSI. I am going to find out what bits, on the drive, were turned on or

> > trashed indicating "media protect". Also if there is a zap util to change

> > the pattern. I'll post the results here.

> >

> > Thanks again guys. Greg

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > "GregCost" wrote:

> >

> >> I'll give it a try, thanks JS

> >>

> >> Greg

> >>

> >> "JS" wrote:

> >>

> >> > You can use one of the two bootable CDs to retrieve those files.

> >> >

> >> > BART PE

> >> > http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

> >> >

> >> > Puppy Linux:

> >> > http://www.puppylinux.org/

> >> >

> >> > JS

> >> >

> >> > "GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> > news:FE4EB5C2-4B3D-4C51-A1C2-FFA621AA206F@microsoft.com...

> >> > > Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the

> >> > > changes to

> >> > > wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error:

> >> > > 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected.

> >> > >

> >> > > I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what

> >> > > and

> >> > > where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013

> >> > > error.

> >> > > On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @

> >> > > 137Gig.

> >> > > The

> >> > > failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives; the new XP home edition with

> >> > > service

> >> > > pack 3 installed.

> >> > >

> >> > > The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard

> >> > > shutdown

> >> > > on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not

> >> > > sure

> >> > > that's even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives

> >> > > thru

> >> > > the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write

> >> > > protection

> >> > > option turned on. I'll also check to see if there is a jumper on the

> >> > > drive

> >> > > for write protection.

> >> > >

> >> > > Other possibilities . I did notice some sort of security ID that has

> >> > > a

> >> > > Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP.

> >> > > when

> >> > > I

> >> > > try and delete it XP report s the same "Media write Protect".

> >> > >

> >> > > Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above?

> >> > >

> >> > > Open to additional suggestions.

> >> > >

> >> > > Thanks Greg

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > "GregCost" wrote:

> >> > >

> >> > >> Hi Ken, JS,

> >> > >>

> >> > >> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge

> >> > >> protector is

> >> > >> a

> >> > >> cheap one - no more.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Greg

> >> > >>

> >> > >> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> >> > >>

> >> > >> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost

> >> > >> > <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> >> > >> >

> >> > >> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my

> >> > >> > > computer was

> >> > >> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it

> >> > >> > > was not

> >> > >> > > effective)

> >> > >> >

> >> > >> >

> >> > >> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but

> >> > >> > I'll

> >> > >> > address the question in your parenthesis above.

> >> > >> >

> >> > >> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of

> >> > >> > volts--much

> >> > >> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection

> >> > >> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power

> >> > >> > line

> >> > >> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around

> >> > >> >

> >> > >> > Two more points:

> >> > >> >

> >> > >> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power

> >> > >> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy

> >> > >> > extension

> >> > >> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A

> >> > >> > decent

> >> > >> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.

> >> > >> >

> >> > >> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no

> >> > >> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge,

> >> > >> > all

> >> > >> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting.

> >> > >> >

> >> > >> >

> >> > >> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system

> >> > >> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death

> >> > >> > > after

> >> > >> > > windows

> >> > >> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install

> >> > >> > > Windows

> >> > >> > > on

> >> > >> > > another drive on the system.

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere

> >> > >> > > on

> >> > >> > > the drive

> >> > >> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF

> >> > >> > > COURSE

> >> > >> > > Visual

> >> > >> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important

> >> > >> > > stuff is

> >> > >> > > being

> >> > >> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look

> >> > >> > > at

> >> > >> > > the

> >> > >> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my

> >> > >> > > SID

> >> > >> > > Is not in

> >> > >> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP

> >> > >> > > validates it

> >> > >> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I

> >> > >> > > click apply

> >> > >> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply

> >> > >> > > permission

> >> > >> > > changes.

> >> > >> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows

> >> > >> > > drive

> >> > >> > > to the

> >> > >> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > Tried a couple of things:

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is

> >> > >> > > protected"

> >> > >> > > "Access denied"

> >> > >> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is

> >> > >> > > protected"

> >> > >> > > "Access denied"

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt

> >> > >> > > positioned

> >> > >> > > one level up

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub

> >> > >> > > directory)

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F

> >> > >> > > NT

> >> > >> > > AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F

> >> > >> > > <Account Domain not

> >> > >> > > found>F

> >> > >> > > <Account Domain not

> >> > >> > > found><OI><CI><IO>F

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > WHEN I try the following:

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > response 1: are you sure?

> >> > >> > > response 2: The media is write protected

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in

> >> > >> > > question

> >> > >> > > still has

> >> > >> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system

> >> > >> > > can't quite

> >> > >> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am

> >> > >> > > able

> >> > >> > > to copy

> >> > >> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is

> >> > >> > > some

> >> > >> > > default? or

> >> > >> > > basic property accessibility

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all

> >> > >> > > drives,

> >> > >> > > SCSI

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > Thanks Greg

> >> > >> >

> >> > >> > --

> >> > >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> >> > >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

> >> > >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

>

>

>

[Guest JS]

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

 

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

 

Thanks

 

JS

 

"GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:E359C040-E2BC-4A84-9A8F-3DE25B59C406@microsoft.com...

> PeBuilder. Greg

>

> "JS" wrote:

>

>> You're welcome.

>> By the way, which utility did you use?

>>

>> JS

>>

>> "GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:48EEF489-0110-46D9-BD47-72F0C9B9275A@microsoft.com...

>> > Worked like a champ; I was ablt to retrieve the data obviously ignoring

>> > the

>> > drive's settings. ... Thanks JS and thank you Ken.

>> >

>> > I have a close friend who's a hard drive design engineer works mostly

>> > on

>> > SCSI. I am going to find out what bits, on the drive, were turned on

>> > or

>> > trashed indicating "media protect". Also if there is a zap util to

>> > change

>> > the pattern. I'll post the results here.

>> >

>> > Thanks again guys. Greg

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > "GregCost" wrote:

>> >

>> >> I'll give it a try, thanks JS

>> >>

>> >> Greg

>> >>

>> >> "JS" wrote:

>> >>

>> >> > You can use one of the two bootable CDs to retrieve those files.

>> >> >

>> >> > BART PE

>> >> > http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

>> >> >

>> >> > Puppy Linux:

>> >> > http://www.puppylinux.org/

>> >> >

>> >> > JS

>> >> >

>> >> > "GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> > news:FE4EB5C2-4B3D-4C51-A1C2-FFA621AA206F@microsoft.com...

>> >> > > Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the

>> >> > > changes to

>> >> > > wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32

>> >> > > error:

>> >> > > 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected.

>> >> > >

>> >> > > I need to understand, translate into something manageable how,

>> >> > > what

>> >> > > and

>> >> > > where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013

>> >> > > error.

>> >> > > On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @

>> >> > > 137Gig.

>> >> > > The

>> >> > > failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives; the new XP home edition

>> >> > > with

>> >> > > service

>> >> > > pack 3 installed.

>> >> > >

>> >> > > The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the

>> >> > > hard

>> >> > > shutdown

>> >> > > on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not

>> >> > > sure

>> >> > > that's even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the

>> >> > > drives

>> >> > > thru

>> >> > > the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write

>> >> > > protection

>> >> > > option turned on. I'll also check to see if there is a jumper on

>> >> > > the

>> >> > > drive

>> >> > > for write protection.

>> >> > >

>> >> > > Other possibilities . I did notice some sort of security ID that

>> >> > > has

>> >> > > a

>> >> > > Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows

>> >> > > XP.

>> >> > > when

>> >> > > I

>> >> > > try and delete it XP report s the same "Media write Protect".

>> >> > >

>> >> > > Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the

>> >> > > above?

>> >> > >

>> >> > > Open to additional suggestions.

>> >> > >

>> >> > > Thanks Greg

>> >> > >

>> >> > >

>> >> > > "GregCost" wrote:

>> >> > >

>> >> > >> Hi Ken, JS,

>> >> > >>

>> >> > >> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge

>> >> > >> protector is

>> >> > >> a

>> >> > >> cheap one - no more.

>> >> > >>

>> >> > >> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly

>> >> > >>

>> >> > >> Greg

>> >> > >>

>> >> > >> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

>> >> > >>

>> >> > >> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost

>> >> > >> > <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>> >> > >> >

>> >> > >> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and

>> >> > >> > > my

>> >> > >> > > computer was

>> >> > >> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it

>> >> > >> > > was not

>> >> > >> > > effective)

>> >> > >> >

>> >> > >> >

>> >> > >> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but

>> >> > >> > I'll

>> >> > >> > address the question in your parenthesis above.

>> >> > >> >

>> >> > >> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of

>> >> > >> > volts--much

>> >> > >> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real

>> >> > >> > protection

>> >> > >> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the

>> >> > >> > power

>> >> > >> > line

>> >> > >> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around

>> >> > >> >

>> >> > >> > Two more points:

>> >> > >> >

>> >> > >> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really

>> >> > >> > "power

>> >> > >> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy

>> >> > >> > extension

>> >> > >> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A

>> >> > >> > decent

>> >> > >> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.

>> >> > >> >

>> >> > >> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it

>> >> > >> > no

>> >> > >> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the

>> >> > >> > surge,

>> >> > >> > all

>> >> > >> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop

>> >> > >> > protecting.

>> >> > >> >

>> >> > >> >

>> >> > >> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system

>> >> > >> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of

>> >> > >> > > death

>> >> > >> > > after

>> >> > >> > > windows

>> >> > >> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install

>> >> > >> > > Windows

>> >> > >> > > on

>> >> > >> > > another drive on the system.

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from

>> >> > >> > > anywhere

>> >> > >> > > on

>> >> > >> > > the drive

>> >> > >> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF

>> >> > >> > > COURSE

>> >> > >> > > Visual

>> >> > >> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important

>> >> > >> > > stuff is

>> >> > >> > > being

>> >> > >> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and

>> >> > >> > > look

>> >> > >> > > at

>> >> > >> > > the

>> >> > >> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that

>> >> > >> > > my

>> >> > >> > > SID

>> >> > >> > > Is not in

>> >> > >> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP

>> >> > >> > > validates it

>> >> > >> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but

>> >> > >> > > when I

>> >> > >> > > click apply

>> >> > >> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply

>> >> > >> > > permission

>> >> > >> > > changes.

>> >> > >> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new

>> >> > >> > > Windows

>> >> > >> > > drive

>> >> > >> > > to the

>> >> > >> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied"

>> >> > >> > > messages.

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > Tried a couple of things:

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is

>> >> > >> > > protected"

>> >> > >> > > "Access denied"

>> >> > >> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is

>> >> > >> > > protected"

>> >> > >> > > "Access denied"

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from

>> >> > >> > > DOS/Prompt

>> >> > >> > > positioned

>> >> > >> > > one level up

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub

>> >> > >> > > directory)

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F

>> >> > >> > > NT

>> >> > >> > > AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F

>> >> > >> > > <Account Domain not

>> >> > >> > > found>F

>> >> > >> > > <Account Domain not

>> >> > >> > > found><OI><CI><IO>F

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > WHEN I try the following:

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg

>> >> > >> > > Cost":F

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > response 1: are you sure?

>> >> > >> > > response 2: The media is write protected

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in

>> >> > >> > > question

>> >> > >> > > still has

>> >> > >> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP

>> >> > >> > > system

>> >> > >> > > can't quite

>> >> > >> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I

>> >> > >> > > am

>> >> > >> > > able

>> >> > >> > > to copy

>> >> > >> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is

>> >> > >> > > some

>> >> > >> > > default? or

>> >> > >> > > basic property accessibility

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all

>> >> > >> > > drives,

>> >> > >> > > SCSI

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > Thanks Greg

>> >> > >> >

>> >> > >> > --

>> >> > >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

>> >> > >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>> >> > >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>>

>>

>>