Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 I just recently noticed that my tray icons are almost all gone (all except Avast!, the network connection are all that come up during a startup. Now I run a tight ship, but not THAT tight! I have three external HDs and no Safely Remove Hardware icon, for instance. (I reinstalled them and the icon came back to stay for one reboot. But I should also have Volume Control, (again, I can fix that until the next reboot.) Everything is enabled in MSCONFIG. I Googled, with mixed results. And I can't be certain that it's coincidental with SP3 installation or some other one I've done since. But since it's hot and smoky and I'm tired, I thought I'd ask about it here. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com
Guest Shaun Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 Re: Tray icons gone... SP3? Maybe the autohide inactive icons was turned on. To check this; right click in the task bar click on properties taskbar and start menu properties window will pop up close to the bottom of that window you'll see a check box that says "hide inactive icons" uncheck it if it has a check mark click Apply, then click OK Shaun "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%23Py3CFx3IHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >I just recently noticed that my tray icons are almost all gone (all except >Avast!, the network connection are all that come up during a startup. > > Now I run a tight ship, but not THAT tight! I have three external HDs and > no Safely Remove Hardware icon, for instance. (I reinstalled them and the > icon came back to stay for one reboot. > > But I should also have Volume Control, (again, I can fix that until the > next reboot.) Everything is enabled in MSCONFIG. > > I Googled, with mixed results. And I can't be certain that it's > coincidental with SP3 installation or some other one I've done since. But > since it's hot and smoky and I'm tired, I thought I'd ask about it here. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 Re: Tray icons gone... SP3? First thing I do when I set up an XP system is to turn off that infernal "Hide inactive icons" and it's the first thing I checked. After all, setting up Windows systems and teaching people how to use them, mostly over the phone and using RA, is my profession. No guesses, please, no instructions for individual items like restoring the Volume Control are needed. I've tried them all and they all failed. I know that SP3 apparently has caused this same problem for others, and it probably caused it for me. (That or it's an incredible coincidence that so many people have posted various places about the issue.) I want to know if there is a fix. Or if someone has determined that it's some incompatibility with some app like Avast! or one of the other common items that should appear in the tray when enabled. I'm in the middle of testing everything in the startup axis, but so far none seems to be the culprit. Bonus points for responses from people who have also experienced this issue in the past, SP3-related or not. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Shaun" <scepp@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:1i5ck.55534$kx.52967@pd7urf3no... > Maybe the autohide inactive icons was turned on. > > To check this; right click in the task bar > click on properties > taskbar and start menu properties window will pop > up > close to the bottom of that window you'll see a > check box that says "hide inactive icons" > uncheck it if it has a check mark > click Apply, then click OK > > Shaun > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:%23Py3CFx3IHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>I just recently noticed that my tray icons are almost all gone (all except >>Avast!, the network connection are all that come up during a startup. >> >> Now I run a tight ship, but not THAT tight! I have three external HDs and >> no Safely Remove Hardware icon, for instance. (I reinstalled them and the >> icon came back to stay for one reboot. >> >> But I should also have Volume Control, (again, I can fix that until the >> next reboot.) Everything is enabled in MSCONFIG. >> >> I Googled, with mixed results. And I can't be certain that it's >> coincidental with SP3 installation or some other one I've done since. But >> since it's hot and smoky and I'm tired, I thought I'd ask about it here. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> >> > >
Guest Kelly Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 Re: Tray icons gone... SP3? Hi Gary or better yet GAry. :o) Have you read over my spiel? For some users, setting the very first icon to Always Hide, restores the arrow/chevron. Note: It does take time for it to become effective. Icons are missing or disappear, reappear: This happens for most Auto-Logon users. Methods/workarounds: Log off and Log back on, password protect your account or disable SSDP and uPNP Services. Disable SSDP and uPNP Services (Line 156) http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm Or uninstall UPnP from Add/Remove Windows Components. Hide or Show Inactive Icons in the Notification Area (Line 53) http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm Remove Past Items From the Notification Area (Line 53) http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm Once done, Open Task Manager, click the Processes tab, click Explorer.exe, and then click End Process. In Task Manager, click File, click New Task, type explorer, and then click OK. The "Past Items" values are written to the registry as part of the user log off process. This is why it is necessary to "crash" Explorer, so the system will re-read the new values, and not retain the old ones that are already in memory from a reboot. Troubleshooting the Notification Area http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_n.htm#na Troubleshooting the Volume Control Icon http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_v.htm#volume Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm Icons in the Notification Area May Disappear If You Use High-Contrast Color Themes in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q321213 -- All the Best, Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP) Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm SupportSpace http://www.supportspace.com/pages?aiu=kellyskorner "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%23Py3CFx3IHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >I just recently noticed that my tray icons are almost all gone (all except >Avast!, the network connection are all that come up during a startup. > > Now I run a tight ship, but not THAT tight! I have three external HDs and > no Safely Remove Hardware icon, for instance. (I reinstalled them and the > icon came back to stay for one reboot. > > But I should also have Volume Control, (again, I can fix that until the > next reboot.) Everything is enabled in MSCONFIG. > > I Googled, with mixed results. And I can't be certain that it's > coincidental with SP3 installation or some other one I've done since. But > since it's hot and smoky and I'm tired, I thought I'd ask about it here. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 Re: Tray icons gone... SP3? "Kelly" <kelly@kelly.com> wrote in message news:OMvvR153IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Hi Gary or better yet GAry. :o) Have you read over my spiel? What spiel? > For some users, setting the very first icon to Always Hide, restores the > arrow/chevron. Note: It does take time for it to become effective. Like I said, I never Hide Inactive Icons. But I'll try it anyway. > Icons are missing or disappear, reappear: This happens for most > Auto-Logon users. No autologon for me for a long time, and I haven't changed any of those settings since I set this machine up. > Methods/workarounds: Log off and Log back on, password protect your > account or disable SSDP and uPNP Services. > > Disable SSDP and uPNP Services (Line 156) > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm UPnP isn't running, but OK, I'll do those too, though I don't like it. > Or uninstall UPnP from Add/Remove Windows Components. > > Hide or Show Inactive Icons in the Notification Area (Line 53) > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm > > Remove Past Items From the Notification Area (Line 53) > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm Ran these two scripts and some of the icons showed up. Then I did the below and they dissappeared again. Then they can back. > Once done, Open Task Manager, click the Processes tab, click Explorer.exe, > and then click End Process. In Task Manager, click File, click New Task, > type explorer, and then click OK. > > The "Past Items" values are written to the registry as part of the user > log off process. This is why it is necessary to "crash" Explorer, so the > system will re-read the new values, and not retain the old ones that are > already in memory from a reboot. > > Troubleshooting the Notification Area > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_n.htm#na > > Troubleshooting the Volume Control Icon > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_v.htm#volume > > Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm > > > Icons in the Notification Area May Disappear If You Use High-Contrast > Color Themes in Windows XP > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q321213 > > > > -- > > All the Best, > Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP) > > Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm > > SupportSpace > http://www.supportspace.com/pages?aiu=kellyskorner > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:%23Py3CFx3IHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>I just recently noticed that my tray icons are almost all gone (all except >>Avast!, the network connection are all that come up during a startup. >> >> Now I run a tight ship, but not THAT tight! I have three external HDs and >> no Safely Remove Hardware icon, for instance. (I reinstalled them and the >> icon came back to stay for one reboot. >> >> But I should also have Volume Control, (again, I can fix that until the >> next reboot.) Everything is enabled in MSCONFIG. >> >> I Googled, with mixed results. And I can't be certain that it's >> coincidental with SP3 installation or some other one I've done since. But >> since it's hot and smoky and I'm tired, I thought I'd ask about it here. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> >> >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 Re: Tray icons gone... SP3? That wasn't supposed to go out. Wasn't finished. Thanks for the links at the bottom, I'll check them out when I'm not swamped. After a reboot, the icons appear to be behaving themselves. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%23nIdJl73IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > "Kelly" <kelly@kelly.com> wrote in message > news:OMvvR153IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Hi Gary or better yet GAry. :o) Have you read over my spiel? > > What spiel? > >> For some users, setting the very first icon to Always Hide, restores the >> arrow/chevron. Note: It does take time for it to become effective. > > Like I said, I never Hide Inactive Icons. But I'll try it anyway. > >> Icons are missing or disappear, reappear: This happens for most >> Auto-Logon users. > > No autologon for me for a long time, and I haven't changed any of those > settings since I set this machine up. > >> Methods/workarounds: Log off and Log back on, password protect your >> account or disable SSDP and uPNP Services. >> >> Disable SSDP and uPNP Services (Line 156) >> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm > > UPnP isn't running, but OK, I'll do those too, though I don't like it. > >> Or uninstall UPnP from Add/Remove Windows Components. >> >> Hide or Show Inactive Icons in the Notification Area (Line 53) >> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm >> >> Remove Past Items From the Notification Area (Line 53) >> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm > > Ran these two scripts and some of the icons showed up. Then I did the > below and they dissappeared again. Then they can back. > >> Once done, Open Task Manager, click the Processes tab, click >> Explorer.exe, and then click End Process. In Task Manager, click File, >> click New Task, type explorer, and then click OK. >> >> The "Past Items" values are written to the registry as part of the user >> log off process. This is why it is necessary to "crash" Explorer, so the >> system will re-read the new values, and not retain the old ones that are >> already in memory from a reboot. >> >> Troubleshooting the Notification Area >> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_n.htm#na >> >> Troubleshooting the Volume Control Icon >> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_v.htm#volume >> >> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! >> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm >> >> >> Icons in the Notification Area May Disappear If You Use High-Contrast >> Color Themes in Windows XP >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q321213 >> >> >> >> -- >> >> All the Best, >> Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP) >> >> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! >> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm >> >> SupportSpace >> http://www.supportspace.com/pages?aiu=kellyskorner >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> news:%23Py3CFx3IHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>I just recently noticed that my tray icons are almost all gone (all >>>except Avast!, the network connection are all that come up during a >>>startup. >>> >>> Now I run a tight ship, but not THAT tight! I have three external HDs >>> and no Safely Remove Hardware icon, for instance. (I reinstalled them >>> and the icon came back to stay for one reboot. >>> >>> But I should also have Volume Control, (again, I can fix that until the >>> next reboot.) Everything is enabled in MSCONFIG. >>> >>> I Googled, with mixed results. And I can't be certain that it's >>> coincidental with SP3 installation or some other one I've done since. >>> But since it's hot and smoky and I'm tired, I thought I'd ask about it >>> here. >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://grystmill.com >>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest Kelly Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Re: Tray icons gone... SP3? Great! :o) -- All the Best, Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP) Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm SupportSpace http://www.supportspace.com/pages?aiu=kellyskorner "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:u14dNn73IHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > That wasn't supposed to go out. Wasn't finished. > > Thanks for the links at the bottom, I'll check them out when I'm not > swamped. > > After a reboot, the icons appear to be behaving themselves. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:%23nIdJl73IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> "Kelly" <kelly@kelly.com> wrote in message >> news:OMvvR153IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Hi Gary or better yet GAry. :o) Have you read over my spiel? >> >> What spiel? >> >>> For some users, setting the very first icon to Always Hide, restores the >>> arrow/chevron. Note: It does take time for it to become effective. >> >> Like I said, I never Hide Inactive Icons. But I'll try it anyway. >> >>> Icons are missing or disappear, reappear: This happens for most >>> Auto-Logon users. >> >> No autologon for me for a long time, and I haven't changed any of those >> settings since I set this machine up. >> >>> Methods/workarounds: Log off and Log back on, password protect your >>> account or disable SSDP and uPNP Services. >>> >>> Disable SSDP and uPNP Services (Line 156) >>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm >> >> UPnP isn't running, but OK, I'll do those too, though I don't like it. >> >>> Or uninstall UPnP from Add/Remove Windows Components. >>> >>> Hide or Show Inactive Icons in the Notification Area (Line 53) >>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm >>> >>> Remove Past Items From the Notification Area (Line 53) >>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm >> >> Ran these two scripts and some of the icons showed up. Then I did the >> below and they dissappeared again. Then they can back. >> >>> Once done, Open Task Manager, click the Processes tab, click >>> Explorer.exe, and then click End Process. In Task Manager, click File, >>> click New Task, type explorer, and then click OK. >>> >>> The "Past Items" values are written to the registry as part of the user >>> log off process. This is why it is necessary to "crash" Explorer, so the >>> system will re-read the new values, and not retain the old ones that are >>> already in memory from a reboot. >>> >>> Troubleshooting the Notification Area >>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_n.htm#na >>> >>> Troubleshooting the Volume Control Icon >>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_v.htm#volume >>> >>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! >>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm >>> >>> >>> Icons in the Notification Area May Disappear If You Use High-Contrast >>> Color Themes in Windows XP >>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q321213 >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> All the Best, >>> Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP) >>> >>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! >>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm >>> >>> SupportSpace >>> http://www.supportspace.com/pages?aiu=kellyskorner >>> >>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>> news:%23Py3CFx3IHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>I just recently noticed that my tray icons are almost all gone (all >>>>except Avast!, the network connection are all that come up during a >>>>startup. >>>> >>>> Now I run a tight ship, but not THAT tight! I have three external HDs >>>> and no Safely Remove Hardware icon, for instance. (I reinstalled them >>>> and the icon came back to stay for one reboot. >>>> >>>> But I should also have Volume Control, (again, I can fix that until the >>>> next reboot.) Everything is enabled in MSCONFIG. >>>> >>>> I Googled, with mixed results. And I can't be certain that it's >>>> coincidental with SP3 installation or some other one I've done since. >>>> But since it's hot and smoky and I'm tired, I thought I'd ask about it >>>> here. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>> http://grystmill.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Re: Tray icons gone... SP3? Yes, well, until recently UPnP worked just fine and caused no problems. Now, it is definitely the problem. Having thought about it, I don't think it was SP3. That was too long ago. I think it was either installing Windows Messenger 8.1 (upgrade from whatever comes in XPSP2), or some hacks I did to allow me to offer RA to Vista users from this XP machine. (I already forget what they were.) I suspect that in the case of Messenger, if installing it was the cause of the problem, uninstalling it isn't going to help. Don't think I'll even try as long as things keep working OK. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Kelly" <kelly@kelly.com> wrote in message news:evMdmZe4IHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Great! :o) > > -- > > All the Best, > Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP) > > Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm > > SupportSpace > http://www.supportspace.com/pages?aiu=kellyskorner > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:u14dNn73IHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> That wasn't supposed to go out. Wasn't finished. >> >> Thanks for the links at the bottom, I'll check them out when I'm not >> swamped. >> >> After a reboot, the icons appear to be behaving themselves. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> news:%23nIdJl73IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> "Kelly" <kelly@kelly.com> wrote in message >>> news:OMvvR153IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Hi Gary or better yet GAry. :o) Have you read over my spiel? >>> >>> What spiel? >>> >>>> For some users, setting the very first icon to Always Hide, restores >>>> the arrow/chevron. Note: It does take time for it to become effective. >>> >>> Like I said, I never Hide Inactive Icons. But I'll try it anyway. >>> >>>> Icons are missing or disappear, reappear: This happens for most >>>> Auto-Logon users. >>> >>> No autologon for me for a long time, and I haven't changed any of those >>> settings since I set this machine up. >>> >>>> Methods/workarounds: Log off and Log back on, password protect your >>>> account or disable SSDP and uPNP Services. >>>> >>>> Disable SSDP and uPNP Services (Line 156) >>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm >>> >>> UPnP isn't running, but OK, I'll do those too, though I don't like it. >>> >>>> Or uninstall UPnP from Add/Remove Windows Components. >>>> >>>> Hide or Show Inactive Icons in the Notification Area (Line 53) >>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm >>>> >>>> Remove Past Items From the Notification Area (Line 53) >>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm >>> >>> Ran these two scripts and some of the icons showed up. Then I did the >>> below and they dissappeared again. Then they can back. >>> >>>> Once done, Open Task Manager, click the Processes tab, click >>>> Explorer.exe, and then click End Process. In Task Manager, click File, >>>> click New Task, type explorer, and then click OK. >>>> >>>> The "Past Items" values are written to the registry as part of the user >>>> log off process. This is why it is necessary to "crash" Explorer, so >>>> the system will re-read the new values, and not retain the old ones >>>> that are already in memory from a reboot. >>>> >>>> Troubleshooting the Notification Area >>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_n.htm#na >>>> >>>> Troubleshooting the Volume Control Icon >>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_v.htm#volume >>>> >>>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! >>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> Icons in the Notification Area May Disappear If You Use High-Contrast >>>> Color Themes in Windows XP >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q321213 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> All the Best, >>>> Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP) >>>> >>>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! >>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm >>>> >>>> SupportSpace >>>> http://www.supportspace.com/pages?aiu=kellyskorner >>>> >>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>>> news:%23Py3CFx3IHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>I just recently noticed that my tray icons are almost all gone (all >>>>>except Avast!, the network connection are all that come up during a >>>>>startup. >>>>> >>>>> Now I run a tight ship, but not THAT tight! I have three external HDs >>>>> and no Safely Remove Hardware icon, for instance. (I reinstalled them >>>>> and the icon came back to stay for one reboot. >>>>> >>>>> But I should also have Volume Control, (again, I can fix that until >>>>> the next reboot.) Everything is enabled in MSCONFIG. >>>>> >>>>> I Googled, with mixed results. And I can't be certain that it's >>>>> coincidental with SP3 installation or some other one I've done since. >>>>> But since it's hot and smoky and I'm tired, I thought I'd ask about it >>>>> here. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>> http://grystmill.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >
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