Check disk is a complete joke.

July 6, 2008

Been stuck on 'phase two' for about an hour or more,

no info whatsoever.

If that what I paid £70+ for?

I guess you can say that about most of microsofts stuff though.

It's either dead slow or doesn't work at all.

Dr Watson for example, who kills his patients.

July 6, 2008

Re: Check disk is a complete joke.

"Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message

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> Been stuck on 'phase two' for about an hour or more,

> no info whatsoever.

>

> If that what I paid £70+ for?

>

> I guess you can say that about most of microsofts stuff though.

> It's either dead slow or doesn't work at all.

>

> Dr Watson for example, who kills his patients.

Actually that's not quite right as the patient is alread ded, he just comes

and murders everybody else in the room.

>

July 6, 2008

Re: Check disk is a complete joke.

"Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message

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> Been stuck on 'phase two' for about an hour or more,

> no info whatsoever.

>

> If that what I paid £70+ for?

>

> I guess you can say that about most of microsofts stuff though.

> It's either dead slow or doesn't work at all.

>

> Dr Watson for example, who kills his patients.

Well after about over 2 hours it finall got to the end of stage 2 and said

"windows was unable to complete the task" - what a load of wank.

>

July 6, 2008

Re: Check disk is a complete joke.

<jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

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On Jul 6, 7:33 pm, "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote:

> "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote in

> messagenews:O0cck.231310$aE7.189502@newsfe16.ams2...

>

> > Been stuck on 'phase two' for about an hour or more,

> > no info whatsoever.

>

> > If that what I paid £70+ for?

>

> > I guess you can say that about most of microsofts stuff though.

> > It's either dead slow or doesn't work at all.

>

> > Dr Watson for example, who kills his patients.

>

> Well after about over 2 hours it finall got to the end of stage 2 and said

> "windows was unable to complete the task" - what a load of wank.

>

you could take that as a cause for suspicion of detection of a problem

with your hard drive.

troubleshoot to determine if this is likely the case. (other hard

drives, that machine, other machines).

Not that this will help you much here, but

I would always do chkdsk /r (it implies /f ). If you don't do /r or /

f then it is just reading and not writing anything and errors are

left. But it might report them.

I have had good luck with chkdsk before. Locating precisely what

files were problematic. I copied good ones from another machine - and

warned the users that I suspected a hard drive problem and they should

change their hard drive before more system (or personal) files get

corrupted. (they weren't EXEs corrupted, it didn't seem malicious).

Check the chkdsk log. notice that chkdsk /? mentions a log. Apparently

it is in event viewer..applications..winlogon

So check that.

I am not sure but you may need to set some things on on, ctrl

panel..system.."startup and recovery" settings,

"write an event to the system log" <-- should be checked anyway

"write debugging information" <-- I have set to small memory dump. May

be useful.

(I also uncheck automatic restart, though that is not so relevant to

your problem)

..

July 7, 2008

Re: Check disk is a complete joke.

"Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message

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>

> <jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

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> On Jul 6, 7:33 pm, "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote:

>> "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote in

>> messagenews:O0cck.231310$aE7.189502@newsfe16.ams2...

>>

>> > Been stuck on 'phase two' for about an hour or more,

>> > no info whatsoever.

>>

>> > If that what I paid £70+ for?

>>

>> > I guess you can say that about most of microsofts stuff though.

>> > It's either dead slow or doesn't work at all.

>>

>> > Dr Watson for example, who kills his patients.

>>

>> Well after about over 2 hours it finall got to the end of stage 2 and

>> said

>> "windows was unable to complete the task" - what a load of wank.

>>

>

> you could take that as a cause for suspicion of detection of a problem

> with your hard drive.

On the other hand I could take that as an indication that

microsoft utilities are "a load of wank".

That is currently my favoured assessment.

Anyway I decided to try a disk checker which actually works, despite it

being free.

Emsa Dick Check.

This is what it came up with:-

(it has not quite finished running yet, 6/7 of the way through, but I don't

think

it will come up with anything else).

==========================================

Initializing, please wait...

Flushing cache start...

Flushing cache end

Pre-Scanning...

Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My

Music\

Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My

Pictures\

Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My

Videos\

Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and

Settings\HP_Owner\Favorites\chinatv\???????(StarSports)_P2P

????,????,????,????,????.url

Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and

Settings\HP_Owner\Favorites\? Secure, free, anonymous web proxy service.url

Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Local

Settings\Temp\b9504acd-dc17-44f6-8201-0b892c1e242e.tmp

Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Local

Settings\Temp\c83af38a-b2e7-4dda-8bc0-b9b24971e1ca.tmp

Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and

Settings\HP_Owner\Recent\????????.txt.lnk

Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\hiberfil.sys

Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Program Files\Common

Files\Synacast\SynaLive\MediaFile\GamesTV-????(??).asx

Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Program Files\Common

Files\Synacast\SynaLive\MediaFile\?????.asx

Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Program

Files\±©·çÍøÂçµçÊÓ£¨ÍòÄÜ°æ£©\TVsou\Synacast\SynaLive\MediaFile\????-????.asx

Error accessing drive: C:\System Volume Information\

Pre-scan complete: 605499 files, 11232 folders, 26746208189 bytes in disk

files.

Disk check started...

Path/File access error C:\Documents and Settings\All

Users\Documents\desktop.ini

Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My

Music\

Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My

Pictures\

Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My

Videos\

=============================================

Anyway, the 'errors' seem to fall into a few categories:-

Permission problems in "All Users\Documents", I am not sure that that is

about

Some tempary files in /temp/ which mo longer appear to exist.

Links with an odd character in eg:-

Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Favorites\? Secure,

free, anonymous web proxy service.url

which is http://www.megaproxy.com/freesurf/ and actualy works.

And C:\hiberfil.sys which is some kind of 'special' system file, hibernation

image or whatever.

Also Error accessing drive: C:\System Volume Information\ which seems a

similar case.

So all in all I think the drive is in very good shape, and without any

problems.

I also benchmarked both disks and they both came out very similar apart

from the stress test in which the suposedly faulty disk came significantly

worse.

However that was comparing it to a newer bigger drive, bigger drives

performed

much better than smaller ones and it out performed all dives of a similar

size, bar

one (I bet that was a bit pricey).

It has finished processing now, there were a few more permission denied

warnings

I can't post them cos I had the log file open so it could not update it.

At the end it said 1 error found. I think that might relate to the

system volume information, but then I can't access that either.

So I just need to sort out this weird permission thing on a folder I never

use.

The computer has no user accounts set up, it came with windows

preinstalled and there is only that 'default' hp_owner account set-up

which can access everything, apart apparently from some special system

files. Which I believe is 'normal' anyway.

The only reason I was even testing my drive was because windows

put it into PIO mode for some strange reason, which really slowed things up.

(that's cured now) and because the check disk thing appears to be 'useless',

not

fit for purpose.

So I think the drive is fine and I stand by my somewhat rude, but justified

comments

about the microsoftware :O|

Am I right? I usually am.

>

> troubleshoot to determine if this is likely the case. (other hard

> drives, that machine, other machines).

>

> Not that this will help you much here, but

> I would always do chkdsk /r (it implies /f ). If you don't do /r or /

> f then it is just reading and not writing anything and errors are

> left. But it might report them.

> I have had good luck with chkdsk before. Locating precisely what

> files were problematic. I copied good ones from another machine - and

> warned the users that I suspected a hard drive problem and they should

> change their hard drive before more system (or personal) files get

> corrupted. (they weren't EXEs corrupted, it didn't seem malicious).

>

> Check the chkdsk log. notice that chkdsk /? mentions a log. Apparently

> it is in event viewer..applications..winlogon

> So check that.

>

> I am not sure but you may need to set some things on on, ctrl

> panel..system.."startup and recovery" settings,

> "write an event to the system log" <-- should be checked anyway

> "write debugging information" <-- I have set to small memory dump. May

> be useful.

> (I also uncheck automatic restart, though that is not so relevant to

> your problem)

> .

>

July 7, 2008

Re: Check disk is a complete joke.

On Jul 6, 7:33 pm, "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote:

> "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote in messagenews:O0cck.231310$aE7.189502@newsfe16.ams2...

>

> > Been stuck on 'phase two' for about an hour or more,

> > no info whatsoever.

>

> > If that what I paid £70+ for?

>

> > I guess you can say that about most of microsofts stuff though.

> > It's either dead slow or doesn't work at all.

>

> > Dr Watson for example, who kills his patients.

>

> Well after about over 2 hours it finall got to the end of stage 2 and said

> "windows was unable to complete the task" - what a load of wank.

>

you could take that as a cause for suspicion of detection of a problem

with your hard drive.

troubleshoot to determine if this is likely the case. (other hard

drives, that machine, other machines).

Not that this will help you much here, but

I would always do chkdsk /r (it implies /f ). If you don't do /r or /

f then it is just reading and not writing anything and errors are

left. But it might report them.

I have had good luck with chkdsk before. Locating precisely what

files were problematic. I copied good ones from another machine - and

warned the users that I suspected a hard drive problem and they should

change their hard drive before more system (or personal) files get

corrupted. (they weren't EXEs corrupted, it didn't seem malicious).

Check the chkdsk log. notice that chkdsk /? mentions a log. Apparently

it is in event viewer..applications..winlogon

So check that.

I am not sure but you may need to set some things on on, ctrl

panel..system.."startup and recovery" settings,

"write an event to the system log" <-- should be checked anyway

"write debugging information" <-- I have set to small memory dump. May

be useful.

(I also uncheck automatic restart, though that is not so relevant to

your problem)

.

July 7, 2008

Re: Check disk is a complete joke.

"Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message

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>

> "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message

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>>

>> <jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

>> news:3d37df8c-13fc-47c2-8940-8ba5d10beaab@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

>> On Jul 6, 7:33 pm, "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote:

>>> "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote in

>>> messagenews:O0cck.231310$aE7.189502@newsfe16.ams2...

>>>

>>> > Been stuck on 'phase two' for about an hour or more,

>>> > no info whatsoever.

>>>

>>> > If that what I paid £70+ for?

>>>

>>> > I guess you can say that about most of microsofts stuff though.

>>> > It's either dead slow or doesn't work at all.

>>>

>>> > Dr Watson for example, who kills his patients.

>>>

>>> Well after about over 2 hours it finall got to the end of stage 2 and

>>> said

>>> "windows was unable to complete the task" - what a load of wank.

>>>

>>

>> you could take that as a cause for suspicion of detection of a problem

>> with your hard drive.

>

> On the other hand I could take that as an indication that

> microsoft utilities are "a load of wank".

> That is currently my favoured assessment.

>

> Anyway I decided to try a disk checker which actually works, despite it

> being free.

> Emsa Dick Check.

> This is what it came up with:-

> (it has not quite finished running yet, 6/7 of the way through, but I

> don't think

> it will come up with anything else).

>

> ==========================================

> Initializing, please wait...

> Flushing cache start...

> Flushing cache end

> Pre-Scanning...

> Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My

> Music\

> Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My

> Pictures\

> Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My

> Videos\

> Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and

> Settings\HP_Owner\Favorites\chinatv\???????(StarSports)_P2P

> ????,????,????,????,????.url

> Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and

> Settings\HP_Owner\Favorites\? Secure, free, anonymous web proxy

> service.url

>

> Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Local

> Settings\Temp\b9504acd-dc17-44f6-8201-0b892c1e242e.tmp

> Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Local

> Settings\Temp\c83af38a-b2e7-4dda-8bc0-b9b24971e1ca.tmp

> Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and

> Settings\HP_Owner\Recent\????????.txt.lnk

> Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\hiberfil.sys

> Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Program Files\Common

> Files\Synacast\SynaLive\MediaFile\GamesTV-????(??).asx

> Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Program Files\Common

> Files\Synacast\SynaLive\MediaFile\?????.asx

> Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Program

> Error accessing drive: C:\System Volume Information\

> Pre-scan complete: 605499 files, 11232 folders, 26746208189 bytes in disk

> files.

> Disk check started...

> Path/File access error C:\Documents and Settings\All

> Users\Documents\desktop.ini

> Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My

> Music\

> Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My

> Pictures\

> Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My

> Videos\

>

> =============================================

>

> Anyway, the 'errors' seem to fall into a few categories:-

>

> Permission problems in "All Users\Documents", I am not sure that that is

> about

I 'fixed' this by turning one file sharing for those folders.

There is 'nowt' in em anyway.

> Some tempary files in /temp/ which mo longer appear to exist.

> Links with an odd character in eg:-

> Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Favorites\?

> Secure, free, anonymous web proxy service.url

> which is http://www.megaproxy.com/freesurf/ and actualy works.

> And C:\hiberfil.sys which is some kind of 'special' system file,

> hibernation image or whatever.

> Also Error accessing drive: C:\System Volume Information\ which seems a

> similar case.

>

> So all in all I think the drive is in very good shape, and without any

> problems.

> I also benchmarked both disks and they both came out very similar apart

> from the stress test in which the suposedly faulty disk came significantly

> worse.

> However that was comparing it to a newer bigger drive, bigger drives

> performed

> much better than smaller ones and it out performed all dives of a similar

> size, bar

> one (I bet that was a bit pricey).

>

> It has finished processing now, there were a few more permission denied

> warnings

> I can't post them cos I had the log file open so it could not update it.

>

> At the end it said 1 error found. I think that might relate to the

> system volume information, but then I can't access that either.

>

> So I just need to sort out this weird permission thing on a folder I never

> use.

> The computer has no user accounts set up, it came with windows

> preinstalled and there is only that 'default' hp_owner account set-up

> which can access everything, apart apparently from some special system

> files. Which I believe is 'normal' anyway.

>

> The only reason I was even testing my drive was because windows

> put it into PIO mode for some strange reason, which really slowed things

> up.

> (that's cured now) and because the check disk thing appears to be

> 'useless', not

> fit for purpose.

>

> So I think the drive is fine and I stand by my somewhat rude, but

> justified comments

> about the microsoftware :O|

>

> Am I right? I usually am.

>

>>

>> troubleshoot to determine if this is likely the case. (other hard

>> drives, that machine, other machines).

>>

>> Not that this will help you much here, but

>> I would always do chkdsk /r (it implies /f ). If you don't do /r or /

>> f then it is just reading and not writing anything and errors are

>> left. But it might report them.

>> I have had good luck with chkdsk before. Locating precisely what

>> files were problematic. I copied good ones from another machine - and

>> warned the users that I suspected a hard drive problem and they should

>> change their hard drive before more system (or personal) files get

>> corrupted. (they weren't EXEs corrupted, it didn't seem malicious).

>>

>> Check the chkdsk log. notice that chkdsk /? mentions a log. Apparently

>> it is in event viewer..applications..winlogon

>> So check that.

>>

>> I am not sure but you may need to set some things on on, ctrl

>> panel..system.."startup and recovery" settings,

>> "write an event to the system log" <-- should be checked anyway

>> "write debugging information" <-- I have set to small memory dump. May

>> be useful.

>> (I also uncheck automatic restart, though that is not so relevant to

>> your problem)

>> .

>>

>

July 8, 2008

Re: Check disk is a complete joke.

Lord Turkey Cough wrote:

snip

>

> Anyway I decided to try a disk checker which actually works, despite it

> being free.

> Emsa Dick Check.

Sounds like a fun program.

snip

--

Gerald Ross

Cochran, GA

'Criminal Lawyer', a redundancy

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