Guest Lord Turkey Cough Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 Been stuck on 'phase two' for about an hour or more, no info whatsoever. If that what I paid £70+ for? I guess you can say that about most of microsofts stuff though. It's either dead slow or doesn't work at all. Dr Watson for example, who kills his patients.
Guest Lord Turkey Cough Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 Re: Check disk is a complete joke. "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message news:O0cck.231310$aE7.189502@newsfe16.ams2... > Been stuck on 'phase two' for about an hour or more, > no info whatsoever. > > If that what I paid £70+ for? > > I guess you can say that about most of microsofts stuff though. > It's either dead slow or doesn't work at all. > > Dr Watson for example, who kills his patients. Actually that's not quite right as the patient is alread ded, he just comes and murders everybody else in the room. > >
Guest Lord Turkey Cough Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 Re: Check disk is a complete joke. "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message news:O0cck.231310$aE7.189502@newsfe16.ams2... > Been stuck on 'phase two' for about an hour or more, > no info whatsoever. > > If that what I paid £70+ for? > > I guess you can say that about most of microsofts stuff though. > It's either dead slow or doesn't work at all. > > Dr Watson for example, who kills his patients. Well after about over 2 hours it finall got to the end of stage 2 and said "windows was unable to complete the task" - what a load of wank. > >
Guest Lord Turkey Cough Posted July 6, 2008 Posted July 6, 2008 Re: Check disk is a complete joke. <jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:3d37df8c-13fc-47c2-8940-8ba5d10beaab@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... On Jul 6, 7:33 pm, "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote: > "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote in > messagenews:O0cck.231310$aE7.189502@newsfe16.ams2... > > > Been stuck on 'phase two' for about an hour or more, > > no info whatsoever. > > > If that what I paid £70+ for? > > > I guess you can say that about most of microsofts stuff though. > > It's either dead slow or doesn't work at all. > > > Dr Watson for example, who kills his patients. > > Well after about over 2 hours it finall got to the end of stage 2 and said > "windows was unable to complete the task" - what a load of wank. > > you could take that as a cause for suspicion of detection of a problem with your hard drive. troubleshoot to determine if this is likely the case. (other hard drives, that machine, other machines). Not that this will help you much here, but I would always do chkdsk /r (it implies /f ). If you don't do /r or / f then it is just reading and not writing anything and errors are left. But it might report them. I have had good luck with chkdsk before. Locating precisely what files were problematic. I copied good ones from another machine - and warned the users that I suspected a hard drive problem and they should change their hard drive before more system (or personal) files get corrupted. (they weren't EXEs corrupted, it didn't seem malicious). Check the chkdsk log. notice that chkdsk /? mentions a log. Apparently it is in event viewer..applications..winlogon So check that. I am not sure but you may need to set some things on on, ctrl panel..system.."startup and recovery" settings, "write an event to the system log" <-- should be checked anyway "write debugging information" <-- I have set to small memory dump. May be useful. (I also uncheck automatic restart, though that is not so relevant to your problem) ..
Guest Lord Turkey Cough Posted July 7, 2008 Posted July 7, 2008 Re: Check disk is a complete joke. "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message news:QTdck.147441$312.31757@newsfe12.ams2... > > <jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:3d37df8c-13fc-47c2-8940-8ba5d10beaab@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 6, 7:33 pm, "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote: >> "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote in >> messagenews:O0cck.231310$aE7.189502@newsfe16.ams2... >> >> > Been stuck on 'phase two' for about an hour or more, >> > no info whatsoever. >> >> > If that what I paid £70+ for? >> >> > I guess you can say that about most of microsofts stuff though. >> > It's either dead slow or doesn't work at all. >> >> > Dr Watson for example, who kills his patients. >> >> Well after about over 2 hours it finall got to the end of stage 2 and >> said >> "windows was unable to complete the task" - what a load of wank. >> >> > > you could take that as a cause for suspicion of detection of a problem > with your hard drive. On the other hand I could take that as an indication that microsoft utilities are "a load of wank". That is currently my favoured assessment. Anyway I decided to try a disk checker which actually works, despite it being free. Emsa Dick Check. This is what it came up with:- (it has not quite finished running yet, 6/7 of the way through, but I don't think it will come up with anything else). ========================================== Initializing, please wait... Flushing cache start... Flushing cache end Pre-Scanning... Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My Music\ Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My Pictures\ Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My Videos\ Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Favorites\chinatv\???????(StarSports)_P2P ????,????,????,????,????.url Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Favorites\? Secure, free, anonymous web proxy service.url Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Local Settings\Temp\b9504acd-dc17-44f6-8201-0b892c1e242e.tmp Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Local Settings\Temp\c83af38a-b2e7-4dda-8bc0-b9b24971e1ca.tmp Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Recent\????????.txt.lnk Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\hiberfil.sys Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Program Files\Common Files\Synacast\SynaLive\MediaFile\GamesTV-????(??).asx Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Program Files\Common Files\Synacast\SynaLive\MediaFile\?????.asx Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Program Files\±©·çÍøÂçµçÊÓ£¨ÍòÄܰ棩\TVsou\Synacast\SynaLive\MediaFile\????-????.asx Error accessing drive: C:\System Volume Information\ Pre-scan complete: 605499 files, 11232 folders, 26746208189 bytes in disk files. Disk check started... Path/File access error C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\desktop.ini Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My Music\ Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My Pictures\ Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My Videos\ ============================================= Anyway, the 'errors' seem to fall into a few categories:- Permission problems in "All Users\Documents", I am not sure that that is about Some tempary files in /temp/ which mo longer appear to exist. Links with an odd character in eg:- Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Favorites\? Secure, free, anonymous web proxy service.url which is http://www.megaproxy.com/freesurf/ and actualy works. And C:\hiberfil.sys which is some kind of 'special' system file, hibernation image or whatever. Also Error accessing drive: C:\System Volume Information\ which seems a similar case. So all in all I think the drive is in very good shape, and without any problems. I also benchmarked both disks and they both came out very similar apart from the stress test in which the suposedly faulty disk came significantly worse. However that was comparing it to a newer bigger drive, bigger drives performed much better than smaller ones and it out performed all dives of a similar size, bar one (I bet that was a bit pricey). It has finished processing now, there were a few more permission denied warnings I can't post them cos I had the log file open so it could not update it. At the end it said 1 error found. I think that might relate to the system volume information, but then I can't access that either. So I just need to sort out this weird permission thing on a folder I never use. The computer has no user accounts set up, it came with windows preinstalled and there is only that 'default' hp_owner account set-up which can access everything, apart apparently from some special system files. Which I believe is 'normal' anyway. The only reason I was even testing my drive was because windows put it into PIO mode for some strange reason, which really slowed things up. (that's cured now) and because the check disk thing appears to be 'useless', not fit for purpose. So I think the drive is fine and I stand by my somewhat rude, but justified comments about the microsoftware :O| Am I right? I usually am. > > troubleshoot to determine if this is likely the case. (other hard > drives, that machine, other machines). > > Not that this will help you much here, but > I would always do chkdsk /r (it implies /f ). If you don't do /r or / > f then it is just reading and not writing anything and errors are > left. But it might report them. > I have had good luck with chkdsk before. Locating precisely what > files were problematic. I copied good ones from another machine - and > warned the users that I suspected a hard drive problem and they should > change their hard drive before more system (or personal) files get > corrupted. (they weren't EXEs corrupted, it didn't seem malicious). > > Check the chkdsk log. notice that chkdsk /? mentions a log. Apparently > it is in event viewer..applications..winlogon > So check that. > > > I am not sure but you may need to set some things on on, ctrl > panel..system.."startup and recovery" settings, > "write an event to the system log" <-- should be checked anyway > "write debugging information" <-- I have set to small memory dump. May > be useful. > (I also uncheck automatic restart, though that is not so relevant to > your problem) > . > >
Guest jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk Posted July 7, 2008 Posted July 7, 2008 Re: Check disk is a complete joke. On Jul 6, 7:33 pm, "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote: > "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote in messagenews:O0cck.231310$aE7.189502@newsfe16.ams2... > > > Been stuck on 'phase two' for about an hour or more, > > no info whatsoever. > > > If that what I paid £70+ for? > > > I guess you can say that about most of microsofts stuff though. > > It's either dead slow or doesn't work at all. > > > Dr Watson for example, who kills his patients. > > Well after about over 2 hours it finall got to the end of stage 2 and said > "windows was unable to complete the task" - what a load of wank. > > you could take that as a cause for suspicion of detection of a problem with your hard drive. troubleshoot to determine if this is likely the case. (other hard drives, that machine, other machines). Not that this will help you much here, but I would always do chkdsk /r (it implies /f ). If you don't do /r or / f then it is just reading and not writing anything and errors are left. But it might report them. I have had good luck with chkdsk before. Locating precisely what files were problematic. I copied good ones from another machine - and warned the users that I suspected a hard drive problem and they should change their hard drive before more system (or personal) files get corrupted. (they weren't EXEs corrupted, it didn't seem malicious). Check the chkdsk log. notice that chkdsk /? mentions a log. Apparently it is in event viewer..applications..winlogon So check that. I am not sure but you may need to set some things on on, ctrl panel..system.."startup and recovery" settings, "write an event to the system log" <-- should be checked anyway "write debugging information" <-- I have set to small memory dump. May be useful. (I also uncheck automatic restart, though that is not so relevant to your problem) .
Guest Lord Turkey Cough Posted July 7, 2008 Posted July 7, 2008 Re: Check disk is a complete joke. "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message news:%qhck.245996$M63.204050@newsfe13.ams2... > > "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message > news:QTdck.147441$312.31757@newsfe12.ams2... >> >> <jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:3d37df8c-13fc-47c2-8940-8ba5d10beaab@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 6, 7:33 pm, "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote: >>> "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote in >>> messagenews:O0cck.231310$aE7.189502@newsfe16.ams2... >>> >>> > Been stuck on 'phase two' for about an hour or more, >>> > no info whatsoever. >>> >>> > If that what I paid £70+ for? >>> >>> > I guess you can say that about most of microsofts stuff though. >>> > It's either dead slow or doesn't work at all. >>> >>> > Dr Watson for example, who kills his patients. >>> >>> Well after about over 2 hours it finall got to the end of stage 2 and >>> said >>> "windows was unable to complete the task" - what a load of wank. >>> >>> >> >> you could take that as a cause for suspicion of detection of a problem >> with your hard drive. > > On the other hand I could take that as an indication that > microsoft utilities are "a load of wank". > That is currently my favoured assessment. > > > Anyway I decided to try a disk checker which actually works, despite it > being free. > Emsa Dick Check. > This is what it came up with:- > (it has not quite finished running yet, 6/7 of the way through, but I > don't think > it will come up with anything else). > > > > ========================================== > Initializing, please wait... > Flushing cache start... > Flushing cache end > Pre-Scanning... > Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My > Music\ > Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My > Pictures\ > Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My > Videos\ > Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and > Settings\HP_Owner\Favorites\chinatv\???????(StarSports)_P2P > ????,????,????,????,????.url > Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and > Settings\HP_Owner\Favorites\? Secure, free, anonymous web proxy > service.url > > Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Local > Settings\Temp\b9504acd-dc17-44f6-8201-0b892c1e242e.tmp > Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Local > Settings\Temp\c83af38a-b2e7-4dda-8bc0-b9b24971e1ca.tmp > Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and > Settings\HP_Owner\Recent\????????.txt.lnk > Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\hiberfil.sys > Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Program Files\Common > Files\Synacast\SynaLive\MediaFile\GamesTV-????(??).asx > Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Program Files\Common > Files\Synacast\SynaLive\MediaFile\?????.asx > Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Program > Files\±©·çÍøÂçµçÊÓ£¨ÍòÄܰ棩\TVsou\Synacast\SynaLive\MediaFile\????-????.asx > Error accessing drive: C:\System Volume Information\ > Pre-scan complete: 605499 files, 11232 folders, 26746208189 bytes in disk > files. > Disk check started... > Path/File access error C:\Documents and Settings\All > Users\Documents\desktop.ini > Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My > Music\ > Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My > Pictures\ > Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My > Videos\ > > ============================================= > > Anyway, the 'errors' seem to fall into a few categories:- > > Permission problems in "All Users\Documents", I am not sure that that is > about I 'fixed' this by turning one file sharing for those folders. There is 'nowt' in em anyway. > Some tempary files in /temp/ which mo longer appear to exist. > Links with an odd character in eg:- > Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Favorites\? > Secure, free, anonymous web proxy service.url > which is http://www.megaproxy.com/freesurf/ and actualy works. > And C:\hiberfil.sys which is some kind of 'special' system file, > hibernation image or whatever. > Also Error accessing drive: C:\System Volume Information\ which seems a > similar case. > > So all in all I think the drive is in very good shape, and without any > problems. > I also benchmarked both disks and they both came out very similar apart > from the stress test in which the suposedly faulty disk came significantly > worse. > However that was comparing it to a newer bigger drive, bigger drives > performed > much better than smaller ones and it out performed all dives of a similar > size, bar > one (I bet that was a bit pricey). > > It has finished processing now, there were a few more permission denied > warnings > I can't post them cos I had the log file open so it could not update it. > > At the end it said 1 error found. I think that might relate to the > system volume information, but then I can't access that either. > > So I just need to sort out this weird permission thing on a folder I never > use. > The computer has no user accounts set up, it came with windows > preinstalled and there is only that 'default' hp_owner account set-up > which can access everything, apart apparently from some special system > files. Which I believe is 'normal' anyway. > > The only reason I was even testing my drive was because windows > put it into PIO mode for some strange reason, which really slowed things > up. > (that's cured now) and because the check disk thing appears to be > 'useless', not > fit for purpose. > > So I think the drive is fine and I stand by my somewhat rude, but > justified comments > about the microsoftware :O| > > > Am I right? I usually am. > >> >> troubleshoot to determine if this is likely the case. (other hard >> drives, that machine, other machines). >> >> Not that this will help you much here, but >> I would always do chkdsk /r (it implies /f ). If you don't do /r or / >> f then it is just reading and not writing anything and errors are >> left. But it might report them. >> I have had good luck with chkdsk before. Locating precisely what >> files were problematic. I copied good ones from another machine - and >> warned the users that I suspected a hard drive problem and they should >> change their hard drive before more system (or personal) files get >> corrupted. (they weren't EXEs corrupted, it didn't seem malicious). >> >> Check the chkdsk log. notice that chkdsk /? mentions a log. Apparently >> it is in event viewer..applications..winlogon >> So check that. >> >> >> I am not sure but you may need to set some things on on, ctrl >> panel..system.."startup and recovery" settings, >> "write an event to the system log" <-- should be checked anyway >> "write debugging information" <-- I have set to small memory dump. May >> be useful. >> (I also uncheck automatic restart, though that is not so relevant to >> your problem) >> . >> >> > >
Guest Gerald Ross Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 Re: Check disk is a complete joke. Lord Turkey Cough wrote: snip > > Anyway I decided to try a disk checker which actually works, despite it > being free. > Emsa Dick Check. Sounds like a fun program. snip -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA 'Criminal Lawyer', a redundancy
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