Guest PCR Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 Re: I did it I did it - USB on 98 - YAY! Peter in New Zealand wrote: |> | But the little |> | laptop is still strolling along happily on 98 with daily use. |> | Haven't had a BSOD in over a week now - is this really the 98 I |> | remember, or did the legends grow in the telling? |> |> Very good. By the way, Colorado is correct. Win98SE is far better for |> USB than FE. But I know that is the one you do have. |> | Yes, and USB is still working beautifully thanks to the help from | everyone here, although I do have to be VERY gentle with inserting or | removing the flash drive. I am off to our nearest big smoke tomorrow | (or what passes for big smoke in NZ - Dunedin city pop. 120,000 and | an hour away) and after plonking grandson on the bus for home I'll be | buying the shortest USB extension lead I can find to glue into the | socket. Alright. Enjoy the bonfire. Keep us informed. Maybe post a complete description before applying glue for Gilliver to review. | -- | Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake) | Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, | and compulsive computer fiddler. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest Dan Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 Re: I did it I did it - USB on 98 - YAY! LOL, IBM PCjr still running here but mainly in storage. Can anyone beat that from 1984 and King's Quest 1 by Sierra On Line which came in a plastic box with a Knight on the cover and you are King Graham out in search of the 3 Royal Treasures that would save Daventry from Destruction and you want to help King Edward and you are a loyal and trustworthy knight. Apparently, Ken Williams made the Game for IBM to show off their new IBM PCjr. I also have a 486 with 66 mhz. with IBM DOS 5.02 and the ever awkward but somehow refreshing Windows 3.1(or 3.11 -- not sure which) My current Machine was a Falcon-Northwest Mach V machine but the only original remaining hardware parts from Windows 98 Second Edition are the 3.5 inch -- 1.44 megabyte floppy drive and the metal case that is still holding up strong. My most recent acquisition was a Windows Vista Home Premium machine from Toshiba which has great external security and great help features with it and only lacks somewhat in the backward compatibility aspect although it is much better with Windows Vista Service Pack 1. Finally, it is interesting that the FAA apparently will continue to have the pilot examination on Windows 2000 and Windows XP. Remember, Windows 2000 has great stability. Heck, my Windows 98 Second Edition is running great thanks to some Windows ME drivers (on the Ati Radeon 9800 XT) graphics side and some Windows 2000 drivers with my HP Printer. The rest for now is just Windows 98 Second Edition with added Windows NT technology to add the external security level to the internal safety level of Windows 98 Second Edition. "Peter in New Zealand" wrote: > > | Err, actually he's sitting just across the room from me as I type this > > | playing some lethal car racing sim running on XP, so I guess he's a > > | gone cookie! Meantime I'm doing this on the laptop with W98 chugging > > | away happily. Why did I ever upgrade? (sheepish grin) > > > > Oh, OK. I guess -- if he's already getting lethal XP-irradiation > > burns -- it's a moot point whether he is guilty or not. You upgraded out > > of impatience, thinking Win98 had an insolvable USB driver problem. > > However, it is good you came back after discovering the real cause of > > your USB problem to be a faulty connector. > > > > Sounds like Gilliver may be on to something-- a refinement of MEB's > > idea. (But I have no experience with that.) > > > Impatience - absolutely. I've always been a bit like that. You're completely > right. I just can't resist trying to squeeze the absolute max out of any OS > I run, and often trying to get that last 0.1 of a % causes me all sorts of > trouble. Guess I should grow up and settle for 99% instead, but I have had a > heap of fun over the years doing it, ever since I had a ZX81, a Spectrum, a > Vic 20, and an Atari 130XE - anyone rememebr those? > > Now, just to make you feel really revolted - I've just finished upgrading my > XP machine to VISTA, so the rads are fair humming out of the case and my > grandson is lit up like a neon sign. But the little laptop is still > strolling along happily on 98 with daily use. Haven't had a BSOD in over a > week now - is this really the 98 I remember, or did the legends grow in the > telling? > > -- > Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake) > Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and > compulsive computer fiddler. > >
Guest Dan Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 Re: I did it I did it - USB on 98 - YAY! Hey Bill in Co., I used Apple II's back in my days as a youth. I am currently 33. <the horror to me of having to grow up --- yucky --- no thanks as long as I can avoid it> "Bill in Co." wrote: > Peter in New Zealand wrote: > >>> Err, actually he's sitting just across the room from me as I type this > >>> playing some lethal car racing sim running on XP, so I guess he's a > >>> gone cookie! Meantime I'm doing this on the laptop with W98 chugging > >>> away happily. Why did I ever upgrade? (sheepish grin) > >> > >> Oh, OK. I guess -- if he's already getting lethal XP-irradiation > >> burns -- it's a moot point whether he is guilty or not. You upgraded out > >> of impatience, thinking Win98 had an insolvable USB driver problem. > > Win98 might, but Win98SE just might not. > > >> However, it is good you came back after discovering the real cause of > >> your USB problem to be a faulty connector. > >> > >> Sounds like Gilliver may be on to something-- a refinement of MEB's > >> idea. (But I have no experience with that.) > >> > > Impatience - absolutely. I've always been a bit like that. You're > > completely > > right. I just can't resist trying to squeeze the absolute max out of any > > OS > > I run, and often trying to get that last 0.1 of a % causes me all sorts of > > trouble. Guess I should grow up and settle for 99% instead, but I have had > > a > > heap of fun over the years doing it, ever since I had a ZX81, a Spectrum, > > a > > Vic 20, and an Atari 130XE - anyone rememebr those? > > Mostly yup. Plus an Apple IIe. I still have the VIC-20 somewhere, and > maybe even the Timex Sinclair. > > > Now, just to make you feel really revolted - I've just finished upgrading > > my > > XP machine to VISTA, > > UGH! > > > so the rads are fair humming out of the case and my > > grandson is lit up like a neon sign. But the little laptop is still > > strolling along happily on 98 with daily use. Haven't had a BSOD in over a > > week now - is this really the 98 I remember, or did the legends grow in > > the > > telling? > > LOL. Depends on how well you handle it. :-) > > >
Guest Dan Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 Re: I did it I did it - USB on 98 - YAY! I sadly have never used a Commodore but I did play on the original Atari. I currently own a refurbished NES system. I love the old school games. You needed to use your brain back then like in the Zork (Infocom) text based games and an old favorite of mine which was really tough and I tried it again recently but got no where with it was WishBringer by Infocom. I loved the old text based games and that is probably why I prefer text based (command but preferably in DOS of course) interface to a GUI interface. "PCR" wrote: > Peter in New Zealand wrote: > |> | Err, actually he's sitting just across the room from me as I type > |> | this playing some lethal car racing sim running on XP, so I guess > |> | he's a gone cookie! Meantime I'm doing this on the laptop with W98 > |> | chugging away happily. Why did I ever upgrade? (sheepish grin) > |> > |> Oh, OK. I guess -- if he's already getting lethal XP-irradiation > |> burns -- it's a moot point whether he is guilty or not. You upgraded > |> out of impatience, thinking Win98 had an insolvable USB driver > |> problem. However, it is good you came back after discovering the > |> real cause of your USB problem to be a faulty connector. > |> > |> Sounds like Gilliver may be on to something-- a refinement of MEB's > |> idea. (But I have no experience with that.) > |> > > | Impatience - absolutely. I've always been a bit like that. You're > | completely right. I just can't resist trying to squeeze the absolute > | max out of any OS I run, and often trying to get that last 0.1 of a % > | causes me all sorts of trouble. Guess I should grow up and settle for > | 99% instead, but I have had a heap of fun over the years doing it, > | ever since I had a ZX81, a Spectrum, a Vic 20, and an Atari 130XE - > | anyone rememebr those? > > No, you are right-- get the most out of them you can. I was going > through the various versions of Commodore at that time. Now, I can't > even recall how many I had or which I skipped. Back then, upgrading > meant replacing ROM chips &/or the entire computer. > > | Now, just to make you feel really revolted - I've just finished > | upgrading my XP machine to VISTA, so the rads are fair humming out of > | the case and my grandson is lit up like a neon sign. > > Well, come Christmas, you won't need a tree. Just lay the gifts at the > grandson's toes, if he hasn't quite exploded yet. > > | But the little > | laptop is still strolling along happily on 98 with daily use. Haven't > | had a BSOD in over a week now - is this really the 98 I remember, or > | did the legends grow in the telling? > > Very good. By the way, Colorado is correct. Win98SE is far better for > USB than FE. But I know that is the one you do have. > > > | -- > | Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake) > | Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, > | and compulsive computer fiddler. > > -- > Thanks or Good Luck, > There may be humor in this post, and, > Naturally, you will not sue, > Should things get worse after this, > PCR > pcrrcp@netzero.net > > >
Guest Dan Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 Re: I did it I did it - USB on 98 - YAY! Do you think Peter in New Zealand will soon return to this thread, PCR. I would enjoy hearing his update. BTW, New Zealand Rocks. "PCR" wrote: > Peter in New Zealand wrote: > |> | But the little > |> | laptop is still strolling along happily on 98 with daily use. > |> | Haven't had a BSOD in over a week now - is this really the 98 I > |> | remember, or did the legends grow in the telling? > |> > |> Very good. By the way, Colorado is correct. Win98SE is far better for > |> USB than FE. But I know that is the one you do have. > |> > | Yes, and USB is still working beautifully thanks to the help from > | everyone here, although I do have to be VERY gentle with inserting or > | removing the flash drive. I am off to our nearest big smoke tomorrow > | (or what passes for big smoke in NZ - Dunedin city pop. 120,000 and > | an hour away) and after plonking grandson on the bus for home I'll be > | buying the shortest USB extension lead I can find to glue into the > | socket. > > Alright. Enjoy the bonfire. Keep us informed. Maybe post a complete > description before applying glue for Gilliver to review. > > | -- > | Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake) > | Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, > | and compulsive computer fiddler. > > -- > Thanks or Good Luck, > There may be humor in this post, and, > Naturally, you will not sue, > Should things get worse after this, > PCR > pcrrcp@netzero.net > > >
Guest PCR Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 Re: I did it I did it - USB on 98 - YAY! Dan wrote: | I sadly have never used a Commodore but I did play on the original | Atari. I currently own a refurbished NES system. I love the old | school games. You needed to use your brain back then like in the | Zork (Infocom) text based games and an old favorite of mine which was | really tough and I tried it again recently but got no where with it | was WishBringer by Infocom. I loved the old text based games and | that is probably why I prefer text based (command but preferably in | DOS of course) interface to a GUI interface. To answer your other post, I hope Peter has solved his USB problem. I can't say when he'll get back, though. Could be he continued the problem in another thread too. Yep, I used to love computer games back then too-- on my Commodore or, yea, on an Atari & even in an arcade before even before that. | "PCR" wrote: | |> Peter in New Zealand wrote: |> |> | Err, actually he's sitting just across the room from me as I |> |> | type this playing some lethal car racing sim running on XP, so |> |> | I guess he's a gone cookie! Meantime I'm doing this on the |> |> | laptop with W98 chugging away happily. Why did I ever upgrade? |> |> | (sheepish grin) |> |> |> |> Oh, OK. I guess -- if he's already getting lethal XP-irradiation |> |> burns -- it's a moot point whether he is guilty or not. You |> |> upgraded out of impatience, thinking Win98 had an insolvable USB |> |> driver problem. However, it is good you came back after |> |> discovering the real cause of your USB problem to be a faulty |> |> connector. |> |> |> |> Sounds like Gilliver may be on to something-- a refinement of |> |> MEB's idea. (But I have no experience with that.) |> |> |> |> | Impatience - absolutely. I've always been a bit like that. You're |> | completely right. I just can't resist trying to squeeze the |> | absolute max out of any OS I run, and often trying to get that |> | last 0.1 of a % causes me all sorts of trouble. Guess I should |> | grow up and settle for 99% instead, but I have had a heap of fun |> | over the years doing it, ever since I had a ZX81, a Spectrum, a |> | Vic 20, and an Atari 130XE - anyone rememebr those? |> |> No, you are right-- get the most out of them you can. I was going |> through the various versions of Commodore at that time. Now, I can't |> even recall how many I had or which I skipped. Back then, upgrading |> meant replacing ROM chips &/or the entire computer. |> |> | Now, just to make you feel really revolted - I've just finished |> | upgrading my XP machine to VISTA, so the rads are fair humming out |> | of the case and my grandson is lit up like a neon sign. |> |> Well, come Christmas, you won't need a tree. Just lay the gifts at |> the grandson's toes, if he hasn't quite exploded yet. |> |> | But the little |> | laptop is still strolling along happily on 98 with daily use. |> | Haven't had a BSOD in over a week now - is this really the 98 I |> | remember, or did the legends grow in the telling? |> |> Very good. By the way, Colorado is correct. Win98SE is far better for |> USB than FE. But I know that is the one you do have. |> |> |> | -- |> | Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake) |> | Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee |> | nutter, and compulsive computer fiddler. |> |> -- |> Thanks or Good Luck, |> There may be humor in this post, and, |> Naturally, you will not sue, |> Should things get worse after this, |> PCR |> pcrrcp@netzero.net -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest Dan Posted August 3, 2008 Posted August 3, 2008 Re: I did it I did it - USB on 98 - YAY! I remember arcade games --- really social and more fun to me than playing multi-player games because you were in a new place with people actually there and could take a break and talk and get a coke and food and chill with your buddies. Dragon Lance which I think the new hit game in the early 80's I think it was called and I remember it cost .50 instead of .25 because it used new laser technology or some kind of jazzed up graphics so the arcade operators said they could justify the price. "PCR" wrote: > Dan wrote: > | I sadly have never used a Commodore but I did play on the original > | Atari. I currently own a refurbished NES system. I love the old > | school games. You needed to use your brain back then like in the > | Zork (Infocom) text based games and an old favorite of mine which was > | really tough and I tried it again recently but got no where with it > | was WishBringer by Infocom. I loved the old text based games and > | that is probably why I prefer text based (command but preferably in > | DOS of course) interface to a GUI interface. > > To answer your other post, I hope Peter has solved his USB problem. I > can't say when he'll get back, though. Could be he continued the problem > in another thread too. > > Yep, I used to love computer games back then too-- on my Commodore or, > yea, on an Atari & even in an arcade before even before that. > > | "PCR" wrote: > | > |> Peter in New Zealand wrote: > |> |> | Err, actually he's sitting just across the room from me as I > |> |> | type this playing some lethal car racing sim running on XP, so > |> |> | I guess he's a gone cookie! Meantime I'm doing this on the > |> |> | laptop with W98 chugging away happily. Why did I ever upgrade? > |> |> | (sheepish grin) > |> |> > |> |> Oh, OK. I guess -- if he's already getting lethal XP-irradiation > |> |> burns -- it's a moot point whether he is guilty or not. You > |> |> upgraded out of impatience, thinking Win98 had an insolvable USB > |> |> driver problem. However, it is good you came back after > |> |> discovering the real cause of your USB problem to be a faulty > |> |> connector. > |> |> > |> |> Sounds like Gilliver may be on to something-- a refinement of > |> |> MEB's idea. (But I have no experience with that.) > |> |> > |> > |> | Impatience - absolutely. I've always been a bit like that. You're > |> | completely right. I just can't resist trying to squeeze the > |> | absolute max out of any OS I run, and often trying to get that > |> | last 0.1 of a % causes me all sorts of trouble. Guess I should > |> | grow up and settle for 99% instead, but I have had a heap of fun > |> | over the years doing it, ever since I had a ZX81, a Spectrum, a > |> | Vic 20, and an Atari 130XE - anyone rememebr those? > |> > |> No, you are right-- get the most out of them you can. I was going > |> through the various versions of Commodore at that time. Now, I can't > |> even recall how many I had or which I skipped. Back then, upgrading > |> meant replacing ROM chips &/or the entire computer. > |> > |> | Now, just to make you feel really revolted - I've just finished > |> | upgrading my XP machine to VISTA, so the rads are fair humming out > |> | of the case and my grandson is lit up like a neon sign. > |> > |> Well, come Christmas, you won't need a tree. Just lay the gifts at > |> the grandson's toes, if he hasn't quite exploded yet. > |> > |> | But the little > |> | laptop is still strolling along happily on 98 with daily use. > |> | Haven't had a BSOD in over a week now - is this really the 98 I > |> | remember, or did the legends grow in the telling? > |> > |> Very good. By the way, Colorado is correct. Win98SE is far better for > |> USB than FE. But I know that is the one you do have. > |> > |> > |> | -- > |> | Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake) > |> | Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee > |> | nutter, and compulsive computer fiddler. > |> > |> -- > |> Thanks or Good Luck, > |> There may be humor in this post, and, > |> Naturally, you will not sue, > |> Should things get worse after this, > |> PCR > |> pcrrcp@netzero.net > > -- > Thanks or Good Luck, > There may be humor in this post, and, > Naturally, you will not sue, > Should things get worse after this, > PCR > pcrrcp@netzero.net > > >
Guest Peter in New Zealand Posted August 3, 2008 Posted August 3, 2008 Re: I did it I did it - USB on 98 - YAY! > > To answer your other post, I hope Peter has solved his USB problem. I > can't say when he'll get back, though. Could be he continued the problem > in another thread too. Yep, yep, yep. I thought I posted back with the good news, but in case I didn't, my apologies. Yes, I have USB working just fine on the laptop with 98SE. I simply couldn't have done it without all the help and support from this group. Greatly appreciated. Incidently, I mentioned somewhere I had upgraded my reasonably grunty desktop to Vista. Yep, well, I like a lot about Vista and it ran great on the machine, but owing to a few software issues I have it back on XP, and there it will stay I think. Seriously, I am thinking of putting MS Virtual machine on and installing 98SE into it for a smile. I'll let you know how it goes if I do. -- Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake) Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and compulsive computer fiddler.
Guest Dan Posted August 3, 2008 Posted August 3, 2008 Re: I did it I did it - USB on 98 - YAY! Thanks for your reply, Peter. I am glad Windows 98 is working well for you again. "Peter in New Zealand" wrote: > > > > To answer your other post, I hope Peter has solved his USB problem. I > > can't say when he'll get back, though. Could be he continued the problem > > in another thread too. > Yep, yep, yep. I thought I posted back with the good news, but in case I > didn't, my apologies. Yes, I have USB working just fine on the laptop with > 98SE. I simply couldn't have done it without all the help and support from > this group. Greatly appreciated. > > Incidently, I mentioned somewhere I had upgraded my reasonably grunty > desktop to Vista. Yep, well, I like a lot about Vista and it ran great on > the machine, but owing to a few software issues I have it back on XP, and > there it will stay I think. Seriously, I am thinking of putting MS Virtual > machine on and installing 98SE into it for a smile. I'll let you know how it > goes if I do. > -- > Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake) > Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and > compulsive computer fiddler. > > >
Guest PCR Posted August 3, 2008 Posted August 3, 2008 Re: I did it I did it - USB on 98 - YAY! Peter in New Zealand wrote: |> To answer your other post, I hope Peter has solved his USB problem. I |> can't say when he'll get back, though. Could be he continued the |> problem in another thread too. | Yep, yep, yep. I thought I posted back with the good news, but in | case I didn't, my apologies. Yes, I have USB working just fine on the | laptop with 98SE. I simply couldn't have done it without all the help | and support from this group. Greatly appreciated. Uhuh, this is the place to be for that. Very glad to hear it again. Right, I THOUGHT you had gotten it done. I think it was a loose USB port at fault all the time, IIRC. Very good you found that out & switched back to Win98! | Incidently, I mentioned somewhere I had upgraded my reasonably grunty | desktop to Vista. Yep, well, I like a lot about Vista and it ran | great on the machine, but owing to a few software issues I have it | back on XP, and there it will stay I think. Seriously, I am thinking | of putting MS Virtual machine on and installing 98SE into it for a | smile. I'll let you know how it goes if I do. OK. Keep us informed. Sounds like a big project. Blanton is knowledgeable on that virtual machine. | -- | Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake) | Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, | and compulsive computer fiddler. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest Peter in New Zealand Posted August 4, 2008 Posted August 4, 2008 Re: I did it I did it - USB on 98 - YAY! > | Incidently, I mentioned somewhere I had upgraded my reasonably grunty > | desktop to Vista. Yep, well, I like a lot about Vista and it ran > | great on the machine, but owing to a few software issues I have it > | back on XP, and there it will stay I think. Seriously, I am thinking > | of putting MS Virtual machine on and installing 98SE into it for a > | smile. I'll let you know how it goes if I do. > > OK. Keep us informed. Sounds like a big project. Blanton is > knowledgeable on that virtual machine. > Ah well, it was fun trying, but it's the old thing about drivers again. None for the chipset for W98 on the CD that came with the mobo, and none on the manufacturer's web site. Sigh. Can't really blame them. It was just a hobby project anyway, and I've really run out of time to play with it. But the little laptop still trundles along on 98 just fine and makes a great mobile extension of the desktop machine. I just use Briefcase on a USB flash drive to take my data files between the two. So when my grandson comes to stay and wants to use the grunty desktop to shoot up aliens or something I can go onto the dining room table with the laptop while he blows up the universe in my office. (grin) I don't use it every day, but at least every 2 or 3 days, and I have not, in a month now, had one single crash, lock up, BSOD, or any other hiccup. Oh, yes, just one, and it was caused by a scruffy bit of software I installed. I used Task Manager to close it, rebooted, and everything was fine again. I really wonder if we have gotten so used to hearing all about the admitted weaknesses of the W9* kernal that we have forgotten it was once the main OS of choice for business and serious users. Sure it isn't as stable as the XP and Vista series, but I have to say I am enjoying using it with reasonable confidence. -- Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake) Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and compulsive computer fiddler.
Guest Bill in Co. Posted August 4, 2008 Posted August 4, 2008 Re: I did it I did it - USB on 98 - YAY! I can't recall all that has been said in here now, but I do want to mention that there IS a universal USB storage driver that works with Win98SE, in case that was missed. (It's that nusb24e.exe driver install package). Peter in New Zealand wrote: >>> Incidently, I mentioned somewhere I had upgraded my reasonably grunty >>> desktop to Vista. Yep, well, I like a lot about Vista and it ran >>> great on the machine, but owing to a few software issues I have it >>> back on XP, and there it will stay I think. Seriously, I am thinking >>> of putting MS Virtual machine on and installing 98SE into it for a >>> smile. I'll let you know how it goes if I do. >> >> OK. Keep us informed. Sounds like a big project. Blanton is >> knowledgeable on that virtual machine. >> > > Ah well, it was fun trying, but it's the old thing about drivers again. > None > for the chipset for W98 on the CD that came with the mobo, and none on the > manufacturer's web site. Sigh. Can't really blame them. It was just a > hobby > project anyway, and I've really run out of time to play with it. > > But the little laptop still trundles along on 98 just fine and makes a > great > mobile extension of the desktop machine. I just use Briefcase on a USB > flash > drive to take my data files between the two. So when my grandson comes to > stay and wants to use the grunty desktop to shoot up aliens or something I > can go onto the dining room table with the laptop while he blows up the > universe in my office. (grin) > > I don't use it every day, but at least every 2 or 3 days, and I have not, > in > a month now, had one single crash, lock up, BSOD, or any other hiccup. Oh, > yes, just one, and it was caused by a scruffy bit of software I installed. > I > used Task Manager to close it, rebooted, and everything was fine again. I > really wonder if we have gotten so used to hearing all about the admitted > weaknesses of the W9* kernal that we have forgotten it was once the main > OS > of choice for business and serious users. Sure it isn't as stable as the > XP > and Vista series, but I have to say I am enjoying using it with reasonable > confidence. > > -- > Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake) > Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and > compulsive computer fiddler.
Guest Peter in New Zealand Posted August 4, 2008 Posted August 4, 2008 Re: I did it I did it - USB on 98 - YAY! "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:eI57NNn9IHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >I can't recall all that has been said in here now, but I do want to mention >that there IS a universal USB storage driver that works with Win98SE, in >case that was missed. (It's that nusb24e.exe driver install package). > I think that's what I actually used in the end to get the USB working, but thank you for mentioning it again. -- Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake) Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and compulsive computer fiddler.
Guest PCR Posted August 5, 2008 Posted August 5, 2008 Re: I did it I did it - USB on 98 - YAY! Peter in New Zealand wrote: |> | Incidently, I mentioned somewhere I had upgraded my reasonably |> | grunty desktop to Vista. Yep, well, I like a lot about Vista and |> | it ran great on the machine, but owing to a few software issues I |> | have it back on XP, and there it will stay I think. Seriously, I |> | am thinking of putting MS Virtual machine on and installing 98SE |> | into it for a smile. I'll let you know how it goes if I do. |> |> OK. Keep us informed. Sounds like a big project. Blanton is |> knowledgeable on that virtual machine. |> | | Ah well, it was fun trying, but it's the old thing about drivers | again. None for the chipset for W98 on the CD that came with the | mobo, and none on the manufacturer's web site. Sigh. Can't really | blame them. It was just a hobby project anyway, and I've really run | out of time to play with it. Well, if you change your mind, start a new thread on it. There are some here who do know about virtual machines. It certainly won't be the same as running an actual Win98, though, as far as peripherals are concerned. | But the little laptop still trundles along on 98 just fine and makes | a great mobile extension of the desktop machine. I just use Briefcase | on a USB flash drive to take my data files between the two. So when | my grandson comes to stay and wants to use the grunty desktop to | shoot up aliens or something I can go onto the dining room table with | the laptop while he blows up the universe in my office. (grin) Very good. Just, keep at least a three room distance between that Win98 & that XP machine-- when the grandson is around especially! | I don't use it every day, but at least every 2 or 3 days, and I have | not, in a month now, had one single crash, lock up, BSOD, or any | other hiccup. Oh, yes, just one, and it was caused by a scruffy bit | of software I installed. I used Task Manager to close it, rebooted, | and everything was fine again. I really wonder if we have gotten so | used to hearing all about the admitted weaknesses of the W9* kernal | that we have forgotten it was once the main OS of choice for business | and serious users. Sure it isn't as stable as the XP and Vista | series, but I have to say I am enjoying using it with reasonable | confidence. Very good. Sounds like all is going well with Win98. You handled the minor crash well. It is good you have that XP machine to draw your grandson away from it! :-). | -- | Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake) | Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, | and compulsive computer fiddler. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest Bill in Co. Posted August 5, 2008 Posted August 5, 2008 Re: I did it I did it - USB on 98 - YAY! Peter in New Zealand wrote: > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:eI57NNn9IHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> I can't recall all that has been said in here now, but I do want to >> mention >> that there IS a universal USB storage driver that works with Win98SE, in >> case that was missed. (It's that nusb24e.exe driver install package). >> > I think that's what I actually used in the end to get the USB working, but > thank you for mentioning it again. Sure. I don't want to give the impression that it was an "official" USB driver, but it sure seemed to work for me. Prior to installing it I couldn't get one of my two USB flash drives to be usable on my Win98SE computer, but after installing it, it worked great. (And it seemed to have good comments on it in recommending it). I only installed it as a last resort, to get my other USB flash drive to be recognized (the other USB flash drive came with a Win98SE driver so it was Win98SE compatible, but those are harder to find)
Guest Dan Posted August 5, 2008 Posted August 5, 2008 Re: I did it I did it - USB on 98 - YAY! Hey, Bill in Co., Can you provide us with a web-link to this driver(s) even if it is unofficial it would be interesting for the newsgroup to see it. Thanks Dan. "Peter in New Zealand" wrote: > > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:eI57NNn9IHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >I can't recall all that has been said in here now, but I do want to mention > >that there IS a universal USB storage driver that works with Win98SE, in > >case that was missed. (It's that nusb24e.exe driver install package). > > > I think that's what I actually used in the end to get the USB working, but > thank you for mentioning it again. > > -- > Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake) > Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and > compulsive computer fiddler. > > >
Guest Dan Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: My views on Microsoft and Apple since thread seems done on usb Re: My views on Microsoft and Apple since thread seems done on usb DISCLAIMER: The Text Below reflects Dan W's Opinions as a person and in no way reflect Microsoft's Opinion or Apple's opinion or any other MVP's opinion and so take them for what they are worth which could be just mindless ramblings or something you might get a grain of truth from but I just felt like expressing my opinion for all who may care enough to view and possibly even <gasp> respond. First of all many thanks are due to PCR, Robear <MVP>, Chris Quirke, MVP, Jim MVP, and all others who are far too numerous to mention who have guided me along a path fraught with the puzzling and sometimes crazy moments of technology in an ever increasing information society led world. My prayer, hope and thought is Please greater something out there let us never at least in the States never get as bad as George Orwell's Vision in 1984 as far as an oppressive and over-bearing government and let people's free will be restrained in a good way to the betterment of society as a whole. Computers: Microsoft and Apple Commentary The problems with Windows 98 Second Edition seemed to mainly have been due to 3rd parties that did not know how to properly write drivers with the proper software code for working well within 98 Second Edition. This seems now largely resolved because it has been a while since I have seen a BSOD. I sometimes get errors now but realize and see they are not due to Windows 98 SE but due to a third party program that is not happy within Windows 98 SE for some reason and then time to remove, figure out what is wrong, and install again if that program is actually needed after all. It seems to work well for me nowadays. In addition, you can compare all three operating system at secunia.com and you just use the search box to see how safe/secure 98 SE is compared to XP Home/Professional and even Vista. What you find out may surprise you as well as the fact that currently Mozilla Firefox 2.x and 3.x has less serious vulnerabilities than these browsers thus the Justice Department was right in pursuing an anti-trust case against Microsoft for this back in 1998 of tying Internet Explorer with Windows. Unfortunately, Microsoft is doing well and complying well now but Apple is the guilty party and it just fires me up. Apple in all their great and mighty pride and glory say in a sense "We are so great" and "We will show you how much greater we are than Microsoft" Apple is doing this now by tying Itunes with Quicktime with Bonjour and even pushing its Safari web browser on users and I am not too confident in Safarii because for one thing Safari does not have the 256 bit AES cipher strength of Mozilla Firefox even in 98 Second Edition as well as not having the compatibility of the industry. In addition, if you remove Quicktime which I have done because I don't need or want Quicktime then it breaks Itunes which I want with my Ipod. The vicious cycle is constant updates for Apple software because of security vulnerabilities. Check this out that even recently Apple released a huge patch and yet people like Walt M. of the Wall Street Journal in the past has said how safe and secure Apples are compared to PC's. This is not true and comparing Apples to Oranges (PC's) in a sense. Please see: us-cert.gov Apple Releases Security Update 2008-005 added August 1, 2008 at 08:17 am Apple has released Security Update 2008-005 to address multiple vulnerabilities that affect a number of applications. These vulnerabilities may allow an attacker to conduct DNS cache poisoning attacks, execute arbitrary code, cause a denial-of-service condition, or access the affected system with elevated privileges. Please note that this update addresses recent issues with weaknesses in common DNS implementations; see Vulnerability Note VU#800113 for additional information. US-CERT encourages users to review Apple Article HT2647 and apply any necessary updates as soon as possible to help mitigate the risks. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms08-037.mspx Thank you again and have a great day. Your belief, attitude, behavior are all in your heart and mind and also in my case in DreamWorld because of who I am as a strange unique individual who is crazy and weak in my physical body but determined and not weak in my faith. Dan just wants to get along but cannot with certain people and it certainly is sad but I put the blame on me for being too wild, too crazy and too repetitive but it just goes along with surviving cancer, having a learning disability and being me. Please I do not need your sympathies and just your thoughts and prayers would be way awesome for a little weak guy like me. <grin --- how is that for an explanation of my odd behavior in the past but currently much more stable thanks to modern drugs and the power of science but faith plays a part in it for me as wel----- Thank Goodness for modern medicine, drugs and doctors -- (:-o) "Peter in New Zealand" wrote: > > | Incidently, I mentioned somewhere I had upgraded my reasonably grunty > > | desktop to Vista. Yep, well, I like a lot about Vista and it ran > > | great on the machine, but owing to a few software issues I have it > > | back on XP, and there it will stay I think. Seriously, I am thinking > > | of putting MS Virtual machine on and installing 98SE into it for a > > | smile. I'll let you know how it goes if I do. > > > > OK. Keep us informed. Sounds like a big project. Blanton is > > knowledgeable on that virtual machine. > > > > Ah well, it was fun trying, but it's the old thing about drivers again. None > for the chipset for W98 on the CD that came with the mobo, and none on the > manufacturer's web site. Sigh. Can't really blame them. It was just a hobby > project anyway, and I've really run out of time to play with it. > > But the little laptop still trundles along on 98 just fine and makes a great > mobile extension of the desktop machine. I just use Briefcase on a USB flash > drive to take my data files between the two. So when my grandson comes to > stay and wants to use the grunty desktop to shoot up aliens or something I > can go onto the dining room table with the laptop while he blows up the > universe in my office. (grin) > > I don't use it every day, but at least every 2 or 3 days, and I have not, in > a month now, had one single crash, lock up, BSOD, or any other hiccup. Oh, > yes, just one, and it was caused by a scruffy bit of software I installed. I > used Task Manager to close it, rebooted, and everything was fine again. I > really wonder if we have gotten so used to hearing all about the admitted > weaknesses of the W9* kernal that we have forgotten it was once the main OS > of choice for business and serious users. Sure it isn't as stable as the XP > and Vista series, but I have to say I am enjoying using it with reasonable > confidence. > > -- > Peter in New Zealand. (Email address is fake) > Collector of old cameras, tropical fish fancier, good coffee nutter, and > compulsive computer fiddler. > > >
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