Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental shutdo

July 8, 2008

To whom it may concern,

After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was using, no

programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

I have been interacting with Microsoft Technical Support regarding potential

solutions and have received some good tips, but nothing has solved the

problem so far.

I would like to hear from anyone who may have experienced and solved this

problem.

Thank you.

Jean-Pierre

P.S. I have verified the folder shows hidden files.

July 8, 2008

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental shutdo

Jean-Pierre "dareys" <dareys@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:51161FC8-54A8-4F2C-A18C-E5E5A9D9833A@microsoft.com...

> To whom it may concern,

>

> After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was using, no

> programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

>

> I have been interacting with Microsoft Technical Support regarding

potential

> solutions and have received some good tips, but nothing has solved the

> problem so far.

Start / Programs is only a Windows folder like other

Windows folder, but contains only LNK files (shortcuts)

pointing to the actual programs. This makes it easy to

customize. Default location is

c:\windows\start menu

and default contents are subfolders

c:\windows\start menu\applications

c:\windows\start menu\communications

c:\windows\start menu\programs

and several more.

1. In EXPLORER (My Computer) go to

c:\windows

and look inside it for

c:\windows\start menu

If you do not find it, do / File / New / Folder

to create a new subfolder named

Start Menu

2. Create a couple of Desktop Shortcuts and

move them into c:\windows\start menu.

When you key START you willl see these immediately,

listed above Programs, Settings, Find, Help, Run

I use this for a few programmes run every day, e.g.

sound editor, Internet browser, Email tool, Copernic.

3. Create (if needed) c:\windows\start menu\Programs and

put inside it any subfolders convenient to group similar

programmes together. E.g. I have

c:\windows\start menu\Programs\Graphics

to hold three or four different graphic editing apps

c:\windows\start menu\Programs\Genealogy

for two different apps and

c:\windows\start menu\Programs\Telephone

to telephone from the keyboard, etc. Installation

routines have already created by themselves

c:\windows\start menu\Programs\Open Office

which I leave intact (with their subfolders) until I

get used to it, and

c:\windows\start menu\Programs\Corel, with

subfolders including (as well as Quattro and Word

Perfect) lots of junk about help files, registration

etc., that I delete as convenient, because never used.

In other words we can configure or change

c:\windows\start menu\Programs\

and other contents of / Start / Programs

to contain only what we want, arranged as we prefer.

--

Don Phillipson

Carlsbad Springs

(Ottawa, Canada)

July 8, 2008

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental shutdo

In news:51161FC8-54A8-4F2C-A18C-E5E5A9D9833A@microsoft.com at ,

dareys contemplated and posted:

| To whom it may concern,

|

| After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was using, no

| programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

|

| I have been interacting with Microsoft Technical Support regarding

| potential solutions and have received some good tips, but nothing has

| solved the problem so far.

|

| I would like to hear from anyone who may have experienced and solved

| this problem.

|

| Thank you.

|

| Jean-Pierre

|

| P.S. I have verified the folder shows hidden files.

First check the msdos.sys file at the root of the drive. It should look

something like:

[Paths]

WinDir=C:\WINDOWS

WinBootDir=C:\WINDOWS

HostWinBootDrv=C

[Options]

BootMulti=1

BootMenu=1

BootGUI=1

DoubleBuffer=1

AutoScan=1

Logo=0

WinVer=4.10.2222

Your BootMenu is likely 0, as well as your Logo [i always start with the

Menu and disable the Logo] and your [Paths] may be different. Make sure that

it also contains the buffering/compatability lines.

--------

*IF* you haven't attempted too many re-starts. you may be able to revert to

an older registry from before the errors began.

The backups are located in, and as :

C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\rb000.cab

C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\rb001.cab

C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\rb002.cab

C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\rb004.cab

C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\rb005.cab

C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\rbbad.cab

You will need the show hidden files checked, and hide known extensions

unchecked. Adjust the above to your Windows directory.

Look at the *dates* for one [or ones] prior to the error beginning.

Write the name down, re-start tap F8 repeatedly to get to the menu -

Command Prompt only, type - scanreg /restore and choose the one you found.

While still at the command prompt type: Find autoexec.* - you are looking to

see if there is a autoexec.wus or other indication of a locked-in startup.

Check within the autoexecs with Edit to see if there may be some

over-riding command interpreter [should be command.com] or file manager

[should be none] also check the config.sys files.

** Also while at the prompt check the win.ini and sys.ini by typing:

cd {windir}

edit system.ini and look for something similar to this:

[boot]

oemfonts.fon=vgaoem.fon

system.drv=system.drv

drivers=mmsystem.dll power.drv

shell=Explorer.exe

user.exe=user.exe

gdi.exe=gdi.exe

sound.drv=mmsound.drv

dibeng.drv=dibeng.dll

comm.drv=comm.drv

mouse.drv=LMouse.Drv

keyboard.drv=keyboard.drv

*DisplayFallback=0

fonts.fon=vgasys.fon

fixedfon.fon=vgafix.fon

386Grabber=vgafull.3gr

display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv

The oemfonts, shell, user, gdi, dibeng, and system.drv are generally the

same for a "normal" system; though non-english versions may have differring

fonts, and other.

** Also check the win.ini:

[windows]

load=

run=

NullPort=None

device=EPSON Stylus COLOR 440,EPIJNL20,LPT1:

Your device= line will likely be different

**Check the registry:

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\open\command]

@="C:\\WINDOWS\\Explorer.exe /idlist,%I,%L"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\explore]

@=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\explore\ddeexec]

"NoActivateHandler"=""

@="[ExploreFolder(\"%l\", %I, %S)]"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\explore\ddeexec\application]

@="Folders"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\explore\ddeexec\topic]

@="AppProperties"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\explore\ddeexec\ifexec]

@="[]"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\explore\command]

@="C:\\WINDOWS\\Explorer.exe /e,/idlist,%I,%L"

--------

As we have no idea what else you have done or were directed to do, there

are several other areas to check...

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

July 9, 2008

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental shutdo

dareys wrote:

| To whom it may concern,

IMPORTANT: Just in case you need to restore a backup Registry (& need

to try more than one), make a copy of the backups FIRST. This is

because, even as you restore them, the oldest backup gets wiped

out...!...

(a) Make a folder named "C:\RegBckUp".

(b) "START button, Find, F/F, RB???.cab".

Five or six should show up, all in...

"C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP"

(d) R-Clk the group, & select "Copy".

(e) Paste the group into C:\RegBckUp.

| After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was using, no

| programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

You mean..?.. "Start menu, Programs"

First, ensure (though I think you already said) that hidden files will

show up in Explorer...

"START button, Settings, Folder Options, View tab"

Bolt "Show all files" & UNcheck "Hide file extensions..."

Next...

(1) R-Clk the Toolbar, & select Properties.

(2) Click the Start Menu Programs tab.

(3) Click the Advanced button.

Do you see "Programs" in the left pane?

R-Clk it, select Properties. If it is checked Hidden-- UNcheck

that.

(4) Click the plus sign left of Programs.

Do you see all the other folders?

Ensure they are not Hidden.

(5) Click each folder.

Do you see the shortcuts in the right pane?

Spot check that the shortcuts are not Hidden too, I guess.

If everything looks good with that, then verify this Registry key...

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\She

ll Folders

Programs "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs"

Start Menu "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu"

That is...

(a) "ATART button, Run, RegEdit"

(b) Click plus signs, beginning left of "HKEY_CURRENT_USER",

& ending left of "Explorer".

Do you see what I posted above?

If you don't see them...

(d) "R-Clk the R-Pane, New, String Value".

Use the names: Programs & Start Menu

(e) R-Clk "Programs", & select "Modify".

Paste "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs" (no quotes)

into Value Data. The quotes will add automatically.

(f) R-Clk "Start Menu", & select "Modify".

Paste "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu" (no quotes)

into Value Data. The quotes will add automatically.

| I have been interacting with Microsoft Technical Support regarding

| potential solutions and have received some good tips, but nothing has

| solved the problem so far.

|

| I would like to hear from anyone who may have experienced and solved

| this problem.

|

| Thank you.

|

| Jean-Pierre

|

| P.S. I have verified the folder shows hidden files.

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

July 9, 2008

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental shutdo

"dareys" <dareys@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:51161FC8-54A8-4F2C-A18C-E5E5A9D9833A@microsoft.com...

> To whom it may concern,

>

> After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was using, no

> programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

> snip

"All Programs" is on the Windows XP Start Menu

"Programs" is on the Windows 98 Start Menu

Are you using WinXP or Win98?

Do you see Programs, or All Programs?

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

http://dts-l.net/

http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

July 9, 2008

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental shutdo

"dareys" <dareys@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:51161FC8-54A8-4F2C-A18C-E5E5A9D9833A@microsoft.com...

> To whom it may concern,

>

> After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was using, no

> programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

>

> I have been interacting with Microsoft Technical Support regarding potential

> solutions and have received some good tips, but nothing has solved the

> problem so far.

>

> I would like to hear from anyone who may have experienced and solved this

> problem.

>

> Thank you.

>

> Jean-Pierre

>

> P.S. I have verified the folder shows hidden files.

Assuming you are in fact using Win98, open Windows Explorer or My Computer, and

navigate to the C:\Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder.

Does the folder exist?

Are you missing program shortcuts in it?

Are there also sub-folders in it for some of your programs?

Do you have TweakUI installed?

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

http://dts-l.net/

http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

July 9, 2008

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

Don,

Thank you for the response.

I figured all of this out by exploring. But thank you for confirming. Yes,

it is just another folder with .lnk files in it. I actually asked Microsoft

Technical Support to teach me how to create them but they apparently did not

know how.

I considered the creating shortcuts in the folder but the users did not

indicate exactly what programs they wanted there, I was pressed for time and

thus opted for a very costly but effective solution.

I just duplicated all the necessary software into the directory at the

expense of some disk space. If I have time and enough feedback from the

users, who at this point may not care, I will try the shortcut approach.

Thank you.

Jean-Pierre

"Don Phillipson" wrote:

> Jean-Pierre "dareys" <dareys@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:51161FC8-54A8-4F2C-A18C-E5E5A9D9833A@microsoft.com...

>

> > To whom it may concern,

> >

> > After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was using, no

> > programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

> >

> > I have been interacting with Microsoft Technical Support regarding

> potential

> > solutions and have received some good tips, but nothing has solved the

> > problem so far.

>

> Start / Programs is only a Windows folder like other

> Windows folder, but contains only LNK files (shortcuts)

> pointing to the actual programs. This makes it easy to

> customize. Default location is

> c:\windows\start menu

> and default contents are subfolders

> c:\windows\start menu\applications

> c:\windows\start menu\communications

> c:\windows\start menu\programs

> and several more.

>

> 1. In EXPLORER (My Computer) go to

> c:\windows

> and look inside it for

> c:\windows\start menu

> If you do not find it, do / File / New / Folder

> to create a new subfolder named

> Start Menu

>

> 2. Create a couple of Desktop Shortcuts and

> move them into c:\windows\start menu.

> When you key START you willl see these immediately,

> listed above Programs, Settings, Find, Help, Run

> I use this for a few programmes run every day, e.g.

> sound editor, Internet browser, Email tool, Copernic.

>

> 3. Create (if needed) c:\windows\start menu\Programs and

> put inside it any subfolders convenient to group similar

> programmes together. E.g. I have

> c:\windows\start menu\Programs\Graphics

> to hold three or four different graphic editing apps

> c:\windows\start menu\Programs\Genealogy

> for two different apps and

> c:\windows\start menu\Programs\Telephone

> to telephone from the keyboard, etc. Installation

> routines have already created by themselves

> c:\windows\start menu\Programs\Open Office

> which I leave intact (with their subfolders) until I

> get used to it, and

> c:\windows\start menu\Programs\Corel, with

> subfolders including (as well as Quattro and Word

> Perfect) lots of junk about help files, registration

> etc., that I delete as convenient, because never used.

>

> In other words we can configure or change

> c:\windows\start menu\Programs\

> and other contents of / Start / Programs

> to contain only what we want, arranged as we prefer.

>

> --

> Don Phillipson

> Carlsbad Springs

> (Ottawa, Canada)

>

July 9, 2008

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

MEB,

Thank you for the response.

I actually tried the .cab revert option and the hidden file issue without

luck.

If I have the time I will check the other options you offer, although I have

solved the problem as best I could.

Thank you.

Jean-Pierre

"MEB" wrote:

> In news:51161FC8-54A8-4F2C-A18C-E5E5A9D9833A@microsoft.com at ,

> dareys contemplated and posted:

> | To whom it may concern,

> |

> | After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was using, no

> | programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

> |

> | I have been interacting with Microsoft Technical Support regarding

> | potential solutions and have received some good tips, but nothing has

> | solved the problem so far.

> |

> | I would like to hear from anyone who may have experienced and solved

> | this problem.

> |

> | Thank you.

> |

> | Jean-Pierre

> |

> | P.S. I have verified the folder shows hidden files.

>

> First check the msdos.sys file at the root of the drive. It should look

> something like:

> [Paths]

> WinDir=C:\WINDOWS

> WinBootDir=C:\WINDOWS

> HostWinBootDrv=C

>

> [Options]

> BootMulti=1

> BootMenu=1

> BootGUI=1

> DoubleBuffer=1

> AutoScan=1

> Logo=0

> WinVer=4.10.2222

>

> Your BootMenu is likely 0, as well as your Logo [i always start with the

> Menu and disable the Logo] and your [Paths] may be different. Make sure that

> it also contains the buffering/compatability lines.

> --------

>

> *IF* you haven't attempted too many re-starts. you may be able to revert to

> an older registry from before the errors began.

> The backups are located in, and as :

> C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\rb000.cab

> C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\rb001.cab

> C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\rb002.cab

> C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\rb004.cab

> C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\rb005.cab

> C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\rbbad.cab

>

> You will need the show hidden files checked, and hide known extensions

> unchecked. Adjust the above to your Windows directory.

> Look at the *dates* for one [or ones] prior to the error beginning.

> Write the name down, re-start tap F8 repeatedly to get to the menu -

> Command Prompt only, type - scanreg /restore and choose the one you found.

> While still at the command prompt type: Find autoexec.* - you are looking to

> see if there is a autoexec.wus or other indication of a locked-in startup.

> Check within the autoexecs with Edit to see if there may be some

> over-riding command interpreter [should be command.com] or file manager

> [should be none] also check the config.sys files.

>

> ** Also while at the prompt check the win.ini and sys.ini by typing:

> cd {windir}

> edit system.ini and look for something similar to this:

> [boot]

> oemfonts.fon=vgaoem.fon

> system.drv=system.drv

> drivers=mmsystem.dll power.drv

> shell=Explorer.exe

> user.exe=user.exe

> gdi.exe=gdi.exe

> sound.drv=mmsound.drv

> dibeng.drv=dibeng.dll

> comm.drv=comm.drv

> mouse.drv=LMouse.Drv

> keyboard.drv=keyboard.drv

> *DisplayFallback=0

> fonts.fon=vgasys.fon

> fixedfon.fon=vgafix.fon

> 386Grabber=vgafull.3gr

> display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv

>

> The oemfonts, shell, user, gdi, dibeng, and system.drv are generally the

> same for a "normal" system; though non-english versions may have differring

> fonts, and other.

>

> ** Also check the win.ini:

> [windows]

> load=

> run=

> NullPort=None

> device=EPSON Stylus COLOR 440,EPIJNL20,LPT1:

>

> Your device= line will likely be different

>

> **Check the registry:

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder]

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\open\command]

> @="C:\\WINDOWS\\Explorer.exe /idlist,%I,%L"

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\explore]

> @=""

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\explore\ddeexec]

> "NoActivateHandler"=""

> @="[ExploreFolder(\"%l\", %I, %S)]"

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\explore\ddeexec\application]

> @="Folders"

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\explore\ddeexec\topic]

> @="AppProperties"

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\explore\ddeexec\ifexec]

> @="[]"

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\explore\command]

> @="C:\\WINDOWS\\Explorer.exe /e,/idlist,%I,%L"

>

> --------

> As we have no idea what else you have done or were directed to do, there

> are several other areas to check...

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

July 9, 2008

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

PCR,

Thank you for the response.

I did backup the registry prior to attempting any changes.

I checked hidden files.

I will view the registry, although I have solved the problem as best I could.

I appreciate the very detailed instructions.

Regards,

Jean-Pierre

"PCR" wrote:

> dareys wrote:

> | To whom it may concern,

>

> IMPORTANT: Just in case you need to restore a backup Registry (& need

> to try more than one), make a copy of the backups FIRST. This is

> because, even as you restore them, the oldest backup gets wiped

> out...!...

>

> (a) Make a folder named "C:\RegBckUp".

> (b) "START button, Find, F/F, RB???.cab".

> Five or six should show up, all in...

> "C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP"

> © Highlight the group (select 1st, hold shift, select last).

> (d) R-Clk the group, & select "Copy".

> (e) Paste the group into C:\RegBckUp.

>

> | After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was using, no

> | programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

>

> You mean..?.. "Start menu, Programs"

>

> First, ensure (though I think you already said) that hidden files will

> show up in Explorer...

>

> "START button, Settings, Folder Options, View tab"

> Bolt "Show all files" & UNcheck "Hide file extensions..."

>

> Next...

>

> (1) R-Clk the Toolbar, & select Properties.

> (2) Click the Start Menu Programs tab.

> (3) Click the Advanced button.

> Do you see "Programs" in the left pane?

> R-Clk it, select Properties. If it is checked Hidden-- UNcheck

> that.

> (4) Click the plus sign left of Programs.

> Do you see all the other folders?

> Ensure they are not Hidden.

> (5) Click each folder.

> Do you see the shortcuts in the right pane?

> Spot check that the shortcuts are not Hidden too, I guess.

>

> If everything looks good with that, then verify this Registry key...

>

> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\She

> ll Folders

> Programs "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs"

> Start Menu "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu"

>

> That is...

>

> (a) "ATART button, Run, RegEdit"

> (b) Click plus signs, beginning left of "HKEY_CURRENT_USER",

> & ending left of "Explorer".

> © Click "Shell Folders" in the left pane, & look in the right pane.

> Do you see what I posted above?

>

> If you don't see them...

>

> (d) "R-Clk the R-Pane, New, String Value".

> Use the names: Programs & Start Menu

> (e) R-Clk "Programs", & select "Modify".

> Paste "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs" (no quotes)

> into Value Data. The quotes will add automatically.

> (f) R-Clk "Start Menu", & select "Modify".

> Paste "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu" (no quotes)

> into Value Data. The quotes will add automatically.

>

> | I have been interacting with Microsoft Technical Support regarding

> | potential solutions and have received some good tips, but nothing has

> | solved the problem so far.

> |

> | I would like to hear from anyone who may have experienced and solved

> | this problem.

> |

> | Thank you.

> |

> | Jean-Pierre

> |

> | P.S. I have verified the folder shows hidden files.

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

July 9, 2008

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

glee,

I was using a Windows 98 computer, and I saw Programs. Please see the other

threads for more information. Thank you.

Jean-Pierre

"glee" wrote:

> "dareys" <dareys@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:51161FC8-54A8-4F2C-A18C-E5E5A9D9833A@microsoft.com...

> > To whom it may concern,

> >

> > After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was using, no

> > programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

> > snip

>

> "All Programs" is on the Windows XP Start Menu

> "Programs" is on the Windows 98 Start Menu

>

> Are you using WinXP or Win98?

> Do you see Programs, or All Programs?

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> http://dts-l.net/

> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>

July 9, 2008

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

glee,

Thanks again. No there were no programs and no, I don´t have TweakUI

installed on that computer... Any ideas?

Jean-Pierre

"glee" wrote:

> "dareys" <dareys@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:51161FC8-54A8-4F2C-A18C-E5E5A9D9833A@microsoft.com...

> > To whom it may concern,

> >

> > After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was using, no

> > programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

> >

> > I have been interacting with Microsoft Technical Support regarding potential

> > solutions and have received some good tips, but nothing has solved the

> > problem so far.

> >

> > I would like to hear from anyone who may have experienced and solved this

> > problem.

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> > Jean-Pierre

> >

> > P.S. I have verified the folder shows hidden files.

>

> Assuming you are in fact using Win98, open Windows Explorer or My Computer, and

> navigate to the C:\Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder.

>

> Does the folder exist?

> Are you missing program shortcuts in it?

> Are there also sub-folders in it for some of your programs?

>

> Do you have TweakUI installed?

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> http://dts-l.net/

> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>

July 9, 2008

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

In news:857DB2F5-9AC9-498C-B96F-39C5DEBE5CD3@microsoft.com at ,

dareys contemplated and posted:

| MEB,

|

| Thank you for the response.

|

| I actually tried the .cab revert option and the hidden file issue

| without luck.

|

| If I have the time I will check the other options you offer, although

| I have solved the problem as best I could.

|

| Thank you.

|

| Jean-Pierre

AAAHHH, I see you have multiple users, hence POLICIES involved... your

duplication method would work for those issues, IN A PINCH, which it

apparently was... might want to check for what policies have been emplaced

as you will likely have other issues as time progresses.

Any properly setup network/multi user system should have an Administrator's

disk somewhere, see if it can be located OR look at the *.pwl and *.acl

files, and other USER specific folders, settings, and files.

|

| "MEB" wrote:

|

|> In news:51161FC8-54A8-4F2C-A18C-E5E5A9D9833A@microsoft.com at ,

|> dareys contemplated and posted:

|> | To whom it may concern,

|> |

|> | After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was

|> | using, no programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

|> |

|> | I have been interacting with Microsoft Technical Support regarding

|> | potential solutions and have received some good tips, but nothing

|> | has solved the problem so far.

|> |

|> | I would like to hear from anyone who may have experienced and

|> | solved this problem.

|> |

|> | Thank you.

|> |

|> | Jean-Pierre

|> |

|> | P.S. I have verified the folder shows hidden files.

|>

|> First check the msdos.sys file at the root of the drive. It should

|> look something like:

|> [Paths]

|> WinDir=C:\WINDOWS

|> WinBootDir=C:\WINDOWS

|> HostWinBootDrv=C

|>

|> [Options]

|> BootMulti=1

|> BootMenu=1

|> BootGUI=1

|> DoubleBuffer=1

|> AutoScan=1

|> Logo=0

|> WinVer=4.10.2222

|>

|> Your BootMenu is likely 0, as well as your Logo [i always start

|> with the Menu and disable the Logo] and your [Paths] may be

|> different. Make sure that it also contains the

|> buffering/compatability lines. --------

|>

|> *IF* you haven't attempted too many re-starts. you may be able to

|> revert to an older registry from before the errors began.

|> The backups are located in, and as :

|> C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\rb000.cab

|> C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\rb001.cab

|> C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\rb002.cab

|> C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\rb004.cab

|> C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\rb005.cab

|> C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\rbbad.cab

|>

|> You will need the show hidden files checked, and hide known

|> extensions unchecked. Adjust the above to your Windows directory.

|> Look at the *dates* for one [or ones] prior to the error beginning.

|> Write the name down, re-start tap F8 repeatedly to get to the menu -

|> Command Prompt only, type - scanreg /restore and choose the one you

|> found. While still at the command prompt type: Find autoexec.* - you

|> are looking to see if there is a autoexec.wus or other indication of

|> a locked-in startup. Check within the autoexecs with Edit to see if

|> there may be some over-riding command interpreter [should be

|> command.com] or file manager [should be none] also check the

|> config.sys files.

|>

|> ** Also while at the prompt check the win.ini and sys.ini by typing:

|> cd {windir}

|> edit system.ini and look for something similar to this:

|> [boot]

|> oemfonts.fon=vgaoem.fon

|> system.drv=system.drv

|> drivers=mmsystem.dll power.drv

|> shell=Explorer.exe

|> user.exe=user.exe

|> gdi.exe=gdi.exe

|> sound.drv=mmsound.drv

|> dibeng.drv=dibeng.dll

|> comm.drv=comm.drv

|> mouse.drv=LMouse.Drv

|> keyboard.drv=keyboard.drv

|> *DisplayFallback=0

|> fonts.fon=vgasys.fon

|> fixedfon.fon=vgafix.fon

|> 386Grabber=vgafull.3gr

|> display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv

|>

|> The oemfonts, shell, user, gdi, dibeng, and system.drv are

|> generally the same for a "normal" system; though non-english

|> versions may have differring fonts, and other.

|>

|> ** Also check the win.ini:

|> [windows]

|> load=

|> run=

|> NullPort=None

|> device=EPSON Stylus COLOR 440,EPIJNL20,LPT1:

|>

|> Your device= line will likely be different

|>

|> **Check the registry:

|>

|> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder]

|>

|> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\open\command]

|> @="C:\\WINDOWS\\Explorer.exe /idlist,%I,%L"

|>

|> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\explore]

|> @=""

|>

|> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\explore\ddeexec]

|> "NoActivateHandler"=""

|> @="[ExploreFolder(\"%l\", %I, %S)]"

|>

|> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\explore\ddeexec\application]

|> @="Folders"

|>

|> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\explore\ddeexec\topic]

|> @="AppProperties"

|>

|> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\explore\ddeexec\ifexec]

|> @="[]"

|>

|> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell\explore\command]

|> @="C:\\WINDOWS\\Explorer.exe /e,/idlist,%I,%L"

|>

|> --------

|> As we have no idea what else you have done or were directed to do,

|> there are several other areas to check...

|>

|> --

|> MEB

|> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

|> --

|> _________

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

July 9, 2008

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

dareys wrote:

| PCR,

|

| Thank you for the response.

|

| I did backup the registry prior to attempting any changes.

That's different from what I said. If you made a fresh Registry backup

("START button, Run, ScanReg"), it actually wiped out your oldest backup

to add the fresh one. This is because only 5 usable backups are normally

kept in C:\Windows\SysBckUp. When adding a fresh one, the oldest one

needs to be deleted. What I suggested was to make a copy of all the

current backups FIRST, before doing anything else dealing with those

backups.

It's fairly stupid-- but MS wrote things so that even restoring one

wipes out the oldest one of the 5 usable ones kept! It puts the current

Registry (the one being replaced, i.e., System.dat, User.dat, System.ini

& User.ini) into RB(next available number).reg. That goes into the

backup folder directly after restoring the one you chose. To make room

for it, the oldest backup is removed! Sheesh!

SO... if you start restoring them newest to oldest, by the time you get

to the oldest (if you need to)-- it won't be there! Neither will the

2nd-to-oldest!

And you actually already had wiped out the oldest when you did that

initial ScanReg. If it said... "No errors found. The system registry has

been backed up already today. Would you like to back it up again?"...

probably it were best to click no! You've already got today's-- it was

made automatically at boot!

| I checked hidden files.

OK. Very good on that.

| I will view the registry, although I have solved the problem as best

| I could.

Alright. If you have multiple users, maybe look at...

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Use

r Shell Folders

....as well. But I'm no expert on multiple users. Glee will be better,

though he once said he doesn't do that either, I think.

Also, can it be this has to do with folder sharing at...?... "Control

Panel, Network, File & Print Sharing". I'm afraid I know little to

nothing about that too!

| I appreciate the very detailed instructions.

You are welcome.

| Regards,

|

| Jean-Pierre

|

| "PCR" wrote:

|

|> dareys wrote:

|> | To whom it may concern,

|>

|> IMPORTANT: Just in case you need to restore a backup Registry (&

|> need to try more than one), make a copy of the backups FIRST. This is

|> because, even as you restore them, the oldest backup gets wiped

|> out...!...

|>

|> (a) Make a folder named "C:\RegBckUp".

|> (b) "START button, Find, F/F, RB???.cab".

|> Five or six should show up, all in...

|> "C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP"

|> © Highlight the group (select 1st, hold shift, select last).

|> (d) R-Clk the group, & select "Copy".

|> (e) Paste the group into C:\RegBckUp.

|>

|> | After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was

|> | using, no programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

|>

|> You mean..?.. "Start menu, Programs"

|>

|> First, ensure (though I think you already said) that hidden files

|> will show up in Explorer...

|>

|> "START button, Settings, Folder Options, View tab"

|> Bolt "Show all files" & UNcheck "Hide file extensions..."

|>

|> Next...

|>

|> (1) R-Clk the Toolbar, & select Properties.

|> (2) Click the Start Menu Programs tab.

|> (3) Click the Advanced button.

|> Do you see "Programs" in the left pane?

|> R-Clk it, select Properties. If it is checked Hidden-- UNcheck

|> that.

|> (4) Click the plus sign left of Programs.

|> Do you see all the other folders?

|> Ensure they are not Hidden.

|> (5) Click each folder.

|> Do you see the shortcuts in the right pane?

|> Spot check that the shortcuts are not Hidden too, I guess.

|>

|> If everything looks good with that, then verify this Registry key...

|>

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\She

|> ll Folders

|> Programs "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs"

|> Start Menu "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu"

|>

|> That is...

|>

|> (a) "ATART button, Run, RegEdit"

|> (b) Click plus signs, beginning left of "HKEY_CURRENT_USER",

|> & ending left of "Explorer".

|> Do you see what I posted above?

|>

|> If you don't see them...

|>

|> (d) "R-Clk the R-Pane, New, String Value".

|> Use the names: Programs & Start Menu

|> (e) R-Clk "Programs", & select "Modify".

|> Paste "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs" (no quotes)

|> into Value Data. The quotes will add automatically.

|> (f) R-Clk "Start Menu", & select "Modify".

|> Paste "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu" (no quotes)

|> into Value Data. The quotes will add automatically.

|>

|> | I have been interacting with Microsoft Technical Support regarding

|> | potential solutions and have received some good tips, but nothing

|> | has solved the problem so far.

|> |

|> | I would like to hear from anyone who may have experienced and

|> | solved this problem.

|> |

|> | Thank you.

|> |

|> | Jean-Pierre

|> |

|> | P.S. I have verified the folder shows hidden files.

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

July 9, 2008

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

dareys wrote:

| PCR,

|

| Thank you for the response.

|

| I did backup the registry prior to attempting any changes.

That's different from what I said. If you made a fresh Registry backup

("START button, Run, ScanReg"), it actually wiped out your oldest backup

to add the fresh one. This is because only 5 usable backups are normally

kept in C:\Windows\SysBckUp. When adding a fresh one, the oldest one

needs to be deleted. What I suggested was to make a copy of all the

current backups FIRST, before doing anything else dealing with those

backups. (If it comes time to use one of these backups of the backups,

you have to get it back into SysBckUp & delete one of the others in

there-- because ScanReg likes only 5! In doing so, ignore RBbad.cab--

that one doesn't count!)

It's fairly stupid-- but MS wrote things so that even restoring one

wipes out the oldest one of the 5 usable ones kept! It puts the current

Registry (the one being replaced, i.e., System.dat, User.dat, System.ini

& User.ini) into RB(next available number).reg. That goes into the

backup folder directly after restoring the one you chose. To make room

for it, the oldest backup is removed! Sheesh!

SO... if you start restoring them newest to oldest, by the time you get

to the oldest (if you need to)-- it won't be there! Neither will the

2nd-to-oldest!

And you actually already had wiped out the oldest when you did that

initial ScanReg. If it said... "No errors found. The system registry has

been backed up already today. Would you like to back it up again?"...

probably it were best to click no! You've already got today's-- it was

made automatically at boot!

| I checked hidden files.

OK. Very good on that.

| I will view the registry, although I have solved the problem as best

| I could.

Alright. If you have multiple users, maybe look at...

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Use

r Shell Folders

....as well. But I'm no expert on multiple users. Glee will be better,

though he once said he doesn't do that either, I think.

Also, can it be this has to do with folder sharing at...?... "Control

Panel, Network, File & Print Sharing". I'm afraid I know little to

nothing about that too!

| I appreciate the very detailed instructions.

You are welcome.

| Regards,

|

| Jean-Pierre

|

| "PCR" wrote:

|

|> dareys wrote:

|> | To whom it may concern,

|>

|> IMPORTANT: Just in case you need to restore a backup Registry (&

|> need to try more than one), make a copy of the backups FIRST. This is

|> because, even as you restore them, the oldest backup gets wiped

|> out...!...

|>

|> (a) Make a folder named "C:\RegBckUp".

|> (b) "START button, Find, F/F, RB???.cab".

|> Five or six should show up, all in...

|> "C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP"

|> (d) R-Clk the group, & select "Copy".

|> (e) Paste the group into C:\RegBckUp.

|>

|> | After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was

|> | using, no programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

|>

|> You mean..?.. "Start menu, Programs"

|>

|> First, ensure (though I think you already said) that hidden files

|> will show up in Explorer...

|>

|> "START button, Settings, Folder Options, View tab"

|> Bolt "Show all files" & UNcheck "Hide file extensions..."

|>

|> Next...

|>

|> (1) R-Clk the Toolbar, & select Properties.

|> (2) Click the Start Menu Programs tab.

|> (3) Click the Advanced button.

|> Do you see "Programs" in the left pane?

|> R-Clk it, select Properties. If it is checked Hidden-- UNcheck

|> that.

|> (4) Click the plus sign left of Programs.

|> Do you see all the other folders?

|> Ensure they are not Hidden.

|> (5) Click each folder.

|> Do you see the shortcuts in the right pane?

|> Spot check that the shortcuts are not Hidden too, I guess.

|>

|> If everything looks good with that, then verify this Registry key...

|>

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\She

|> ll Folders

|> Programs "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs"

|> Start Menu "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu"

|>

|> That is...

|>

|> (a) "ATART button, Run, RegEdit"

|> (b) Click plus signs, beginning left of "HKEY_CURRENT_USER",

|> & ending left of "Explorer".

|> Do you see what I posted above?

|>

|> If you don't see them...

|>

|> (d) "R-Clk the R-Pane, New, String Value".

|> Use the names: Programs & Start Menu

|> (e) R-Clk "Programs", & select "Modify".

|> Paste "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs" (no quotes)

|> into Value Data. The quotes will add automatically.

|> (f) R-Clk "Start Menu", & select "Modify".

|> Paste "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu" (no quotes)

|> into Value Data. The quotes will add automatically.

|>

|> | I have been interacting with Microsoft Technical Support regarding

|> | potential solutions and have received some good tips, but nothing

|> | has solved the problem so far.

|> |

|> | I would like to hear from anyone who may have experienced and

|> | solved this problem.

|> |

|> | Thank you.

|> |

|> | Jean-Pierre

|> |

|> | P.S. I have verified the folder shows hidden files.

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

July 9, 2008

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

Damn-- ignore this one!

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

July 11, 2008

RE: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental shutdo

Gentlemen,

Many thanks to all for replying to my question. Frankly I was pleasantly

surprised at the level of support I received for such an old version of the

Operating System.

In any case, I read all your suggestions and tried a number of them as I

indicated in earlier posts. And no, I had no policies, but I tried som policy

settings, which did not have effect on the problem, anyway.

I solved the problem by duplicating software at the expense of 3 Gigabytes.

Fortunately, the client was very understanding and did not really mind as

long as the functionality was restored after the abnormal shutdown.

Many thanks to all.

Jean-Pierre

"dareys" wrote:

> To whom it may concern,

>

> After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was using, no

> programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

>

> I have been interacting with Microsoft Technical Support regarding potential

> solutions and have received some good tips, but nothing has solved the

> problem so far.

>

> I would like to hear from anyone who may have experienced and solved this

> problem.

>

> Thank you.

>

> Jean-Pierre

>

> P.S. I have verified the folder shows hidden files.

>

July 12, 2008

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental shutdo

dareys wrote:

| Gentlemen,

|

| Many thanks to all for replying to my question. Frankly I was

| pleasantly surprised at the level of support I received for such an

| old version of the Operating System.

|

| In any case, I read all your suggestions and tried a number of them

| as I indicated in earlier posts. And no, I had no policies, but I

| tried som policy settings, which did not have effect on the problem,

| anyway.

|

| I solved the problem by duplicating software at the expense of 3

| Gigabytes. Fortunately, the client was very understanding and did not

| really mind as long as the functionality was restored after the

| abnormal shutdown.

I'm not really happy with that! But I know little of policies,

networking, or multiple users. If those are involved, you are excused.

OTHERWISE-- go back & convert those things to shortcuts! On penalty of

exposure to 1000 RADS XP-irradiation-- if you don't!

| Many thanks to all.

|

| Jean-Pierre

|

| "dareys" wrote:

|

|> To whom it may concern,

|>

|> After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was using,

|> no programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

|>

|> I have been interacting with Microsoft Technical Support regarding

|> potential solutions and have received some good tips, but nothing

|> has solved the problem so far.

|>

|> I would like to hear from anyone who may have experienced and solved

|> this problem.

|>

|> Thank you.

|>

|> Jean-Pierre

|>

|> P.S. I have verified the folder shows hidden files.

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

July 12, 2008

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental sh

I don't have much to add, as you have not provided any info to work with. From the

other replies, it seems you *may* be dealing with a computer with multiple user

profiles, but I don't see a definitive statement from you as to whether profiles are

in use. Profiles would change the location of the Start Menu folders for each user.

IIRC in Win98 they would be in the Windows\Profiles folder tree.....but I never use

profiles on Win98, so I can't recall the exact folder navigation.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

http://dts-l.net/

http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

"dareys" <dareys@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:A7E3F54F-2DA4-4C42-8318-FCEAA7975E79@microsoft.com...

> glee,

>

> Thanks again. No there were no programs and no, I don´t have TweakUI

> installed on that computer... Any ideas?

>

> Jean-Pierre

>

> "glee" wrote:

>

>> "dareys" <dareys@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:51161FC8-54A8-4F2C-A18C-E5E5A9D9833A@microsoft.com...

>> > To whom it may concern,

>> >

>> > After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was using, no

>> > programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

>> >

>> > I have been interacting with Microsoft Technical Support regarding potential

>> > solutions and have received some good tips, but nothing has solved the

>> > problem so far.

>> >

>> > I would like to hear from anyone who may have experienced and solved this

>> > problem.

>> >

>> > Thank you.

>> >

>> > Jean-Pierre

>> >

>> > P.S. I have verified the folder shows hidden files.

>>

>> Assuming you are in fact using Win98, open Windows Explorer or My Computer, and

>> navigate to the C:\Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder.

>>

>> Does the folder exist?

>> Are you missing program shortcuts in it?

>> Are there also sub-folders in it for some of your programs?

>>

>> Do you have TweakUI installed?

>> --

>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

>> http://dts-l.net/

>> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>>

July 12, 2008

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental shutdo

That happened once to me. The \windows\menuitems folder was

corrupted, and a scandisk put it right. Can't remember details, was

years ago.

[]'s

On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:24:04 -0700, dareys

<dareys@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>To whom it may concern,

>

>After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was using, no

>programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

>

>I have been interacting with Microsoft Technical Support regarding potential

>solutions and have received some good tips, but nothing has solved the

>problem so far.

>

>I would like to hear from anyone who may have experienced and solved this

>problem.

>

>Thank you.

>

>Jean-Pierre

>

>P.S. I have verified the folder shows hidden files.

July 12, 2008

Re: Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental shutdo

I probably got into this thread too late; however, what I would do is search

the drive using as the search criteria: *.lnk and see where any link

files might be located. It's possible the directory got moved somewhere due

to the bad shutdown.

--

Regards

Ron Badour

MS MVP Shell User

"dareys" <dareys@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:51161FC8-54A8-4F2C-A18C-E5E5A9D9833A@microsoft.com...

> To whom it may concern,

>

> After an accidental shutdown of the Windows 98 machine I was using, no

> programs are listed under Start -> All Programs.

>

> I have been interacting with Microsoft Technical Support regarding

> potential

> solutions and have received some good tips, but nothing has solved the

> problem so far.

>

> I would like to hear from anyone who may have experienced and solved this

> problem.

>

> Thank you.

>

> Jean-Pierre

>

> P.S. I have verified the folder shows hidden files.

>

Sign In

Start ->All Programs (nothing is appearing after accidental shutdo

Recommended Posts

Guest dareys

Popular Days

Popular Days

Guest Don Phillipson

Guest MEB

Guest PCR

Guest glee

Guest glee

Guest dareys

Guest dareys

Guest dareys

Guest dareys

Guest dareys

Guest MEB

Guest PCR

Guest PCR

Guest PCR

Guest dareys

Guest PCR

Guest glee

Guest Shadow

Guest Ron Badour

Similar Content

Program Appears as Suspended in the Task Manager

After updating to Windows 11 24h2, programs takes several minutes to load and running programs sometimes freezes for no reason

Trust relationship of all clients lost after backup restored of DC

Automatically all Programs are uninstalled in Windows 10

spotify app appears in start menu, but isnt listed under apps?

Browse

Activity

Site Info