Guest DL Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 Winxp sp3, AMD 3800+ dual core, 2gb dual Corsair ram (tested, its not value ram) 160gb Sata (Tested) NVidea 8600GT, Large Pwr supply from a decent source, though I would have expected obvious drive problems if Pwr was an issue. No heat issues, No malaware, trojans or virus, plenty of free space No Event errors, chkdsk has been run without issue, drive is defragged. System runs 24/7 & has done for the last 3 years or so since a new hardware clean install, BSOD a rarity - cannot remmber the last - No Games, Mainstream Office type programs only. Certain MS programs, eg Outlook on occasions show a lag if any screen refresh is required - no its not an issue with the outlook data files, or OL configeration - ; MS Office Accounting Pro is so bad in this that the application is unuseable - MOA Tech have been unable to offer a solution or reason. All other Office 2007 components are fine, allthough Word tends to open slowly. Acrobat full version, various heavy weight accounting apps all run fine. Today I opened Exporer, its window wasnt fully formed, rt side missing? Occasionally I open say Control Panel and note that the icons are generic, but then slowly refresh one by one. I've used msconfig to disable all start ups, hidden all non MS and disabled the rest, rebooted and its still the same. No mapped network drives Vvidea drivers have been updated, bios & Chipset updated Typical commit of 778936 with peak of 815496 Can anyone offer any clues / insite as to what might be going on? Thanks
Guest JS Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 Re: Winxp performance issues #1: A process that's loading down your CPU: It could be a sub-process or application that's running in the background and taking all the CPU resources, which could be the cause of your PC running slow. To find and display what could be the problem try Process Explorer: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/SystemInformation/ProcessExplorer.mspx Note: Once you have Process Explorer installed and running: In the taskbar select View and check 'Show Process Tree' and 'Show Lower Pane' options. Then expand the process named 'Explorer' (click on the + sign) In the column on the left named 'CPU', look for any high CPU usage. Next click on the CPU column to sort the processes by %CPU usage (Highest to Lowest). Move the mouse cursor over any process, you should see a popup with some detailed info. Then mouse over the process that's using most or all the CPU %. Then click on that process to highlight it, Now that it's highlighted, right click and from the options listed select: 'Search Online' This should display what out there on the web about that process. You can also double click on any process to open up a more detailed 'Properties' window. Note: some entries like Explorer, System/Services, and Svchost entries may need to be expanded to show the detail (sub processes), in this case click on the + located to the left of the entry. An alternate method using Process Explorer is to double click on the Graph just below the Menu bar. This will open the 'System Information' window, which has a larger display of all three graphs. Move your mouse over any spike in the CPU Usage graph to see what process/application or service was the cause of the spike. #2: Stuff that loads during boot or logon and then is always running in the background: If you want to list and explore what may be the cause then: Try Autoruns from the MS Windows SysInternals site: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx AutoRuns will show/list all apps/etc. that load/run when you first boot (Boot Execute tab), when you logon (Logon tab) and other programs that load (grouped by labeled tabs) for easy viewing. It also provides the ability to selectively allows you to stop any program (use with care) that you don't want to load. You can undo any changes you have made. Note: To get additional details on an item in the list you may need to highlight the item (right click) and use the 'Search Online' option to get the details, especially useful for the more obscure items in the list. #3: Viruses Viruses and malware can also cause your PC to slowdown or malfunction. Malke has an excellent set of instructions on what to do: http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware #4: To much crap on the hard drive: Take a look at CCleaner as a tool to remove Internet history info, cookies, temp files, auto complete and other junk. In the 'Windows' tab listing check the item types you want deleted. Note: Do not use the registry cleaning option!!! Also available is customization, see Options/Custom to add any other/additional folders you want files deleted from. http://www.ccleaner.com/ #5: Defragment your hard drive. JS "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message news:O8klDbU4IHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Winxp sp3, AMD 3800+ dual core, 2gb dual Corsair ram (tested, its not > value ram) 160gb Sata (Tested) NVidea 8600GT, Large Pwr supply from a > decent source, though I would have expected obvious drive problems if Pwr > was an issue. > No heat issues, No malaware, trojans or virus, plenty of free space > No Event errors, chkdsk has been run without issue, drive is defragged. > System runs 24/7 & has done for the last 3 years or so since a new > hardware clean install, BSOD a rarity - cannot remmber the last - > No Games, Mainstream Office type programs only. > Certain MS programs, eg Outlook on occasions show a lag if any screen > refresh is required - no its not an issue with the outlook data files, or > OL configeration - ; MS Office Accounting Pro is so bad in this that the > application is unuseable - MOA Tech have been unable to offer a solution > or reason. All other Office 2007 components are fine, allthough Word tends > to open slowly. > Acrobat full version, various heavy weight accounting apps all run fine. > Today I opened Exporer, its window wasnt fully formed, rt side missing? > Occasionally I open say Control Panel and note that the icons are generic, > but then slowly refresh one by one. > I've used msconfig to disable all start ups, hidden all non MS and > disabled the rest, rebooted and its still the same. No mapped network > drives > Vvidea drivers have been updated, bios & Chipset updated > Typical commit of 778936 with peak of 815496 > > Can anyone offer any clues / insite as to what might be going on? > Thanks >
Guest DL Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Re: Winxp performance issues 1) Can occur with cpu useage at 10% 2) Tested with all background apps & non MS services out of the equation - no change 3) Virus / Malaware clean 4) Not applicable 5) Allready done so not applicable "JS" <@> wrote in message news:uhP7uHV4IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > #1: A process that's loading down your CPU: > It could be a sub-process or application that's running in the background > and taking all the CPU resources, which could be the cause of your PC > running slow. > To find and display what could be the problem try Process Explorer: > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/SystemInformation/ProcessExplorer.mspx > > Note: Once you have Process Explorer installed and running: > In the taskbar select View and check 'Show Process Tree' and > 'Show Lower Pane' options. > Then expand the process named 'Explorer' (click on the + sign) > In the column on the left named 'CPU', look for any high CPU usage. > Next click on the CPU column to sort the processes by %CPU usage > (Highest to Lowest). > Move the mouse cursor over any process, you should see a popup with some > detailed info. > Then mouse over the process that's using most or all the CPU %. > Then click on that process to highlight it, > Now that it's highlighted, right click and from the options listed > select: > 'Search Online' > This should display what out there on the web about that process. > You can also double click on any process to open up a more detailed > 'Properties' window. > Note: some entries like Explorer, System/Services, and > Svchost entries may need to be expanded to show the detail (sub > processes), > in this case click on the + located to the left of the entry. > > An alternate method using Process Explorer is to double click > on the Graph just below the Menu bar. > This will open the 'System Information' window, which has a larger display > of all three graphs. > Move your mouse over any spike in the CPU Usage graph to see what > process/application or service was the cause of the spike. > > #2: Stuff that loads during boot or logon and then is always running in > the > background: > If you want to list and explore what may be the cause then: > Try Autoruns from the MS Windows SysInternals site: > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx > > AutoRuns will show/list all apps/etc. that load/run when you first boot > (Boot Execute tab), > when you logon (Logon tab) and other programs that load > (grouped by labeled tabs) for easy viewing. > It also provides the ability to selectively allows you to stop any program > (use with care) that you don't want to load. > You can undo any changes you have made. > Note: To get additional details on an item in the list you may need to > highlight the item (right click) and use the 'Search Online' option to get > the details, especially useful for the more obscure items in the list. > > #3: Viruses > Viruses and malware can also cause your PC to slowdown or malfunction. > Malke has an excellent set of instructions on what to do: > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware > > #4: To much crap on the hard drive: > Take a look at CCleaner as a tool to remove Internet history info, > cookies, > temp files, auto complete and other junk. > In the 'Windows' tab listing check the item types you want deleted. > Note: Do not use the registry cleaning option!!! > Also available is customization, see Options/Custom to add any > other/additional folders you want files deleted from. > http://www.ccleaner.com/ > > #5: Defragment your hard drive. > > JS > > "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message > news:O8klDbU4IHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Winxp sp3, AMD 3800+ dual core, 2gb dual Corsair ram (tested, its not >> value ram) 160gb Sata (Tested) NVidea 8600GT, Large Pwr supply from a >> decent source, though I would have expected obvious drive problems if Pwr >> was an issue. >> No heat issues, No malaware, trojans or virus, plenty of free space >> No Event errors, chkdsk has been run without issue, drive is defragged. >> System runs 24/7 & has done for the last 3 years or so since a new >> hardware clean install, BSOD a rarity - cannot remmber the last - >> No Games, Mainstream Office type programs only. >> Certain MS programs, eg Outlook on occasions show a lag if any screen >> refresh is required - no its not an issue with the outlook data files, or >> OL configeration - ; MS Office Accounting Pro is so bad in this that the >> application is unuseable - MOA Tech have been unable to offer a solution >> or reason. All other Office 2007 components are fine, allthough Word >> tends to open slowly. >> Acrobat full version, various heavy weight accounting apps all run fine. >> Today I opened Exporer, its window wasnt fully formed, rt side missing? >> Occasionally I open say Control Panel and note that the icons are >> generic, but then slowly refresh one by one. >> I've used msconfig to disable all start ups, hidden all non MS and >> disabled the rest, rebooted and its still the same. No mapped network >> drives >> Vvidea drivers have been updated, bios & Chipset updated >> Typical commit of 778936 with peak of 815496 >> >> Can anyone offer any clues / insite as to what might be going on? >> Thanks >> > >
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