Terminal Services/Server & RD for Admin

[Guest MG]

I ‘m sorry but I’m a Network neophyte. I just bought and installed SBS 2003.

I wanted to be able to do two things:

1. Let my clients access their data but no one else’s

2. Be able to access the server remotely from my home PC.

So, I was doing some research and found this reply from a Microsoft rep.

 

“OK, long story, but here goes:

 

In Windows 2000 Terminal Services, there are 2 different TS modes:

1) Terminal Services in Remote Administration mode

This mode gives you a maximum of 2 simultaneous connections to the

server, without additional licensing requirements. Designed for

Administrators, to access the server remotely. By default, only

Administrators can access a server in Remote Administration mode.

 

2) Terminal Services in Application Server mode

This is the "real" thing: allows for multi-user access, limited

only by the number of Terminal Services Client Access Licenses (TS

CALs) and your hardware.

 

In Windows 2003, the terminology has changed: What was called "TS

in Application Server mode" on W2K is now simply called "Terminal

Services".

What was called "TS in Remote Administration mode" is now called

"Remote Desktop for Administration". It doesn't need to be

installed, just enabled.

 

This name change has caused quite some problems: administrators

have installed Terminal Services on 2003, while they only needed

Remote Desktop for Administration. And then after the 120 days

grace period, it stopped functioning, because there are no TS

licenses.

 

On an SBS 2003 server, you can't make this mistake :-) because it

is impossible to install Terminal Services (implied: in what used

to be called Application Server mode). So the only thing that you

have access to is Remote Desktop for Administration, which is also

what you want.

 

And no, there is no limiation on what applications you can run in

your remote session to the server.”

 

My questions are:

1. Microsoft Rep says: “you can’t install Terminal Services” on 2003. Yet,

under “Administration Tools” it lists “Terminal Services Configuration” &

“Terminal Services Manager”. What is this? Is this TS in Application Server

mode? Should I have purchased Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition instead?

2. How do you enable “Remote Desktop for Administration” and will this allow

me to access the server from my home PC?

 

--

Thank you

Respectfully

MG

[Guest Jeff Pitsch]

Re: Terminal Services/Server & RD for Admin

 

1) These are admin tools and part of the admin tool set. That has nothing

to do with the fact that you cannot install terminal services on SBS 2003.

this is explained on the SBS microsoft website.

 

2) enabling remote admin is done in the control panel, system, remote.

Technically yes it does but you still need to somehow get access from your

home to the internal networks.

 

Jeff Pitsch

Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

 

 

"MG" <MG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:07A61D4A-6782-441E-BF3F-808A203C8DA9@microsoft.com...

>I 'm sorry but I'm a Network neophyte. I just bought and installed SBS

>2003.

> I wanted to be able to do two things:

> 1. Let my clients access their data but no one else's

> 2. Be able to access the server remotely from my home PC.

> So, I was doing some research and found this reply from a Microsoft rep.

>

> "OK, long story, but here goes:

>

> In Windows 2000 Terminal Services, there are 2 different TS modes:

> 1) Terminal Services in Remote Administration mode

> This mode gives you a maximum of 2 simultaneous connections to the

> server, without additional licensing requirements. Designed for

> Administrators, to access the server remotely. By default, only

> Administrators can access a server in Remote Administration mode.

>

> 2) Terminal Services in Application Server mode

> This is the "real" thing: allows for multi-user access, limited

> only by the number of Terminal Services Client Access Licenses (TS

> CALs) and your hardware.

>

> In Windows 2003, the terminology has changed: What was called "TS

> in Application Server mode" on W2K is now simply called "Terminal

> Services".

> What was called "TS in Remote Administration mode" is now called

> "Remote Desktop for Administration". It doesn't need to be

> installed, just enabled.

>

> This name change has caused quite some problems: administrators

> have installed Terminal Services on 2003, while they only needed

> Remote Desktop for Administration. And then after the 120 days

> grace period, it stopped functioning, because there are no TS

> licenses.

>

> On an SBS 2003 server, you can't make this mistake :-) because it

> is impossible to install Terminal Services (implied: in what used

> to be called Application Server mode). So the only thing that you

> have access to is Remote Desktop for Administration, which is also

> what you want.

>

> And no, there is no limiation on what applications you can run in

> your remote session to the server."

>

> My questions are:

> 1. Microsoft Rep says: "you can't install Terminal Services" on 2003.

> Yet,

> under "Administration Tools" it lists "Terminal Services Configuration" &

> "Terminal Services Manager". What is this? Is this TS in Application

> Server

> mode? Should I have purchased Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition

> instead?

> 2. How do you enable "Remote Desktop for Administration" and will this

> allow

> me to access the server from my home PC?

>

> --

> Thank you

> Respectfully

> MG

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: Terminal Services/Server & RD for Admin

 

MG, you'd better post in the sbs newsgroup.

Since you have an SBS server, you will really want to use RWW

(Remote Web Workspace), which is a very cool feature to connect to

your server and all clients in the sbs domain.

 

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

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"Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote on 09 jul 2008

in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> 1) These are admin tools and part of the admin tool set. That

> has nothing to do with the fact that you cannot install terminal

> services on SBS 2003. this is explained on the SBS microsoft

> website.

>

> 2) enabling remote admin is done in the control panel, system,

> remote. Technically yes it does but you still need to somehow

> get access from your home to the internal networks.

>

> Jeff Pitsch

> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>

>

> "MG" <MG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:07A61D4A-6782-441E-BF3F-808A203C8DA9@microsoft.com...

>>I 'm sorry but I'm a Network neophyte. I just bought and

>>installed SBS 2003.

>> I wanted to be able to do two things:

>> 1. Let my clients access their data but no one else's

>> 2. Be able to access the server remotely from my home PC.

>> So, I was doing some research and found this reply from a

>> Microsoft rep.

>>

>> "OK, long story, but here goes:

>>

>> In Windows 2000 Terminal Services, there are 2 different TS

>> modes: 1) Terminal Services in Remote Administration mode

>> This mode gives you a maximum of 2 simultaneous connections to

>> the server, without additional licensing requirements. Designed

>> for Administrators, to access the server remotely. By default,

>> only Administrators can access a server in Remote

>> Administration mode.

>>

>> 2) Terminal Services in Application Server mode

>> This is the "real" thing: allows for multi-user access, limited

>> only by the number of Terminal Services Client Access Licenses

>> (TS CALs) and your hardware.

>>

>> In Windows 2003, the terminology has changed: What was called

>> "TS in Application Server mode" on W2K is now simply called

>> "Terminal Services".

>> What was called "TS in Remote Administration mode" is now

>> called "Remote Desktop for Administration". It doesn't need to

>> be installed, just enabled.

>>

>> This name change has caused quite some problems: administrators

>> have installed Terminal Services on 2003, while they only

>> needed Remote Desktop for Administration. And then after the

>> 120 days grace period, it stopped functioning, because there

>> are no TS licenses.

>>

>> On an SBS 2003 server, you can't make this mistake :-) because

>> it is impossible to install Terminal Services (implied: in what

>> used to be called Application Server mode). So the only thing

>> that you have access to is Remote Desktop for Administration,

>> which is also what you want.

>>

>> And no, there is no limiation on what applications you can run

>> in your remote session to the server."

>>

>> My questions are:

>> 1. Microsoft Rep says: "you can't install Terminal Services" on

>> 2003. Yet,

>> under "Administration Tools" it lists "Terminal Services

>> Configuration" & "Terminal Services Manager". What is this?

>> Is this TS in Application Server

>> mode? Should I have purchased Windows Server 2003 Standard

>> Edition instead?

>> 2. How do you enable "Remote Desktop for Administration" and

>> will this allow

>> me to access the server from my home PC?

>>

>> --

>> Thank you

>> Respectfully

>> MG