Guest MEB Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Approximately 800 vulnerabilities discovered in Anti-Virus products http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1445&tag=nl.e539 Seems the parsing issue has again been addressed as a potential area of vulnerability. "... the IT/Security consulting firm n.runs AG claims to have discovered approximately 800 vulnerabilities within antivirus products based on exploiting a standard malware scanning process known as "parsing" :" It isn't reasonable to shuffle this off with the standard "oh just another business pointing out others failures", *"The research they cite is based on Secunia's tracking of advisories affecting antivirus products, as well as research conducted by the University of Michigan emphasizing on the severity of the vulnerabilities on a per product basis."* Might want to see what the rating of your Anti-Virus application is. Another comparative is located here: http://www.av-comparatives.org/ And a May 2008 results: http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/ergebnisse_2008_05.php -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________
Guest 98 Guy Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Re: Hmm, so your Anti-virus program is protecting you? Maybe not... MEB wrote: > Approximately 800 vulnerabilities discovered in Anti-Virus products I've been saying (for more than a year) that AV software, along with running a software firewall, was basically useless on win-98 systems.
Guest MEB Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Re: Hmm, so your Anti-virus program is protecting you? Maybe not... In news:487438D3.C2F56B33@Guy.com at , 98 Guy contemplated and posted: | MEB wrote: | |> Approximately 800 vulnerabilities discovered in Anti-Virus products | | I've been saying (for more than a year) that AV software, along with | running a software firewall, was basically useless on win-98 systems. Well, let me guess, YOU think NT systems are safer.... the POINT is the systems and software are vulnerable.. that's ALL of them, some more than others. HOWEVER, not running Anti-Virus software makes you just another infecter of others... passing the stuff around and never knowing.. What, you think there are no more viruses on the NET,, no more BackOrifice, no more exe hacks ... And a firewall helps to montor that software... something no hardware can do... So what's better??? Hmmm.... -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________
Guest Bill in Co. Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Re: Hmm, so your Anti-virus program is protecting you? Maybe not... MEB wrote: > In news:487438D3.C2F56B33@Guy.com at , > 98 Guy contemplated and posted: >> MEB wrote: >> >>> Approximately 800 vulnerabilities discovered in Anti-Virus products >> >> I've been saying (for more than a year) that AV software, along with >> running a software firewall, was basically useless on win-98 systems. > > Well, let me guess, YOU think NT systems are safer.... the POINT is the > systems and software are vulnerable.. that's ALL of them, some more than > others. HOWEVER, not running Anti-Virus software makes you just another > infecter of others... passing the stuff around and never knowing.. > What, you think there are no more viruses on the NET,, no more > BackOrifice, > no more exe hacks ... > > And a firewall helps to montor that software... something no hardware can > do... > > So what's better??? Hmmm.... DOS.
Guest Dan Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Re: Hmm, so your Anti-virus program is protecting you? Maybe not.. Re: Hmm, so your Anti-virus program is protecting you? Maybe not.. <grin> This is why 9x systems were so successful is because they had DOS as the underlying maintenance operating system. I really enjoy Chris Quirke's views on this with the safety of 9x operating systems compared to the security of NT operating systems. "Bill in Co." wrote: > MEB wrote: > > In news:487438D3.C2F56B33@Guy.com at , > > 98 Guy contemplated and posted: > >> MEB wrote: > >> > >>> Approximately 800 vulnerabilities discovered in Anti-Virus products > >> > >> I've been saying (for more than a year) that AV software, along with > >> running a software firewall, was basically useless on win-98 systems. > > > > Well, let me guess, YOU think NT systems are safer.... the POINT is the > > systems and software are vulnerable.. that's ALL of them, some more than > > others. HOWEVER, not running Anti-Virus software makes you just another > > infecter of others... passing the stuff around and never knowing.. > > What, you think there are no more viruses on the NET,, no more > > BackOrifice, > > no more exe hacks ... > > > > And a firewall helps to montor that software... something no hardware can > > do... > > > > So what's better??? Hmmm.... > > DOS. > > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Re: Hmm, so your Anti-virus program is protecting you? Maybe not... Wrong. DOS is no less vulnerable to viruses than Windows. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:uqel3HY4IHA.3784@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > MEB wrote: >> In news:487438D3.C2F56B33@Guy.com at , >> 98 Guy contemplated and posted: >>> MEB wrote: >>> >>>> Approximately 800 vulnerabilities discovered in Anti-Virus products >>> >>> I've been saying (for more than a year) that AV software, along with >>> running a software firewall, was basically useless on win-98 systems. >> >> Well, let me guess, YOU think NT systems are safer.... the POINT is the >> systems and software are vulnerable.. that's ALL of them, some more than >> others. HOWEVER, not running Anti-Virus software makes you just another >> infecter of others... passing the stuff around and never knowing.. >> What, you think there are no more viruses on the NET,, no more >> BackOrifice, >> no more exe hacks ... >> >> And a firewall helps to montor that software... something no hardware can >> do... >> >> So what's better??? Hmmm.... > > DOS. >
Guest Dan Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Re: Hmm, so your Anti-virus program is protecting you? Maybe not.. Re: Hmm, so your Anti-virus program is protecting you? Maybe not.. You are right, Gary. Perhaps I should have started a new post on the issue since it is much more general then the subject topic. I was thinking in a more general sense of hackers being able to target the additional services that Windows XP Professional provides for users and this allows them to target a greater surface area in looking for vulnerabilities. In addition, if the user does not turn off remote access then that can be a potential security hole in XP. The thing about 9x machines is that they are standalone machines as compared to XP and Vista that big companies and governments can more easily connect as one. As a home user, I also like the flexibility of the machine as being my own. However, Microsoft Easy Assistance is a great tool that allows Microsoft Technicians to help you work on your computer with XP Professional so in my opinion each kernel type has its advantages and disadvantages. I have heard rumors that parts of the NT source code were leaked over the Internet and that this has not happened with 9x source code but I cannot prove this point since it is a rumor. I also like 98 Second Edition for old-school gaming as well as its flexibility with DOS. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > Wrong. DOS is no less vulnerable to viruses than Windows. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:uqel3HY4IHA.3784@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > MEB wrote: > >> In news:487438D3.C2F56B33@Guy.com at , > >> 98 Guy contemplated and posted: > >>> MEB wrote: > >>> > >>>> Approximately 800 vulnerabilities discovered in Anti-Virus products > >>> > >>> I've been saying (for more than a year) that AV software, along with > >>> running a software firewall, was basically useless on win-98 systems. > >> > >> Well, let me guess, YOU think NT systems are safer.... the POINT is the > >> systems and software are vulnerable.. that's ALL of them, some more than > >> others. HOWEVER, not running Anti-Virus software makes you just another > >> infecter of others... passing the stuff around and never knowing.. > >> What, you think there are no more viruses on the NET,, no more > >> BackOrifice, > >> no more exe hacks ... > >> > >> And a firewall helps to montor that software... something no hardware can > >> do... > >> > >> So what's better??? Hmmm.... > > > > DOS. > > > > >
Guest 98 Guy Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Re: Hmm, so your Anti-virus program is protecting you? Maybe not.. Re: Hmm, so your Anti-virus program is protecting you? Maybe not.. Dan wrote: > You are right, Gary. It's always sad to see Gary's ass get kissed like this...
Guest Lil' Dave Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 Re: Hmm, so your Anti-virus program is protecting you? Maybe not.. Re: Hmm, so your Anti-virus program is protecting you? Maybe not.. "98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:48752237.6B355E12@Guy.com... > Dan wrote: > >> You are right, Gary. > > It's always sad to see Gary's ass get kissed like this... The alternative is Gary giving another public spanking :) -- Dave Speculation on a product or material that is an obvious need, is not speculation per se as there is no risk to the speculator. Common were those selling food and other supplies in the gold rush days. In this case, its oil and its everyone who bites the bullet. And most everyone has no gold to be made, just business as usual.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Re: Hmm, so your Anti-virus program is protecting you? Maybe not.. Re: Hmm, so your Anti-virus program is protecting you? Maybe not.. Next on my list of people who need spankings are people who reply to idiots that I've blocked. You managed to bring two of them to the light of day. Puts you near the top of the list, <s>. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message news:OIBp06n4IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > "98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:48752237.6B355E12@Guy.com... >> Dan wrote: >> >>> You are right, Gary. >> >> It's always sad to see Gary's ass get kissed like this... > > The alternative is Gary giving another public spanking :) > -- > Dave > > Speculation on a product or material that is > an obvious need, is not speculation per se > as there is no risk to the speculator. > Common were those selling food and other > supplies in the gold rush days. > In this case, its oil and its everyone who > bites the bullet. And most everyone has no gold > to be made, just business as usual. > >
Guest 98 Guy Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 Re: Hmm, so your Anti-virus program is protecting you? Maybe not.. Re: Hmm, so your Anti-virus program is protecting you? Maybe not.. Top-poster "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > Next on my list of people who need spankings are people who reply > to idiots that I've blocked. As Gary sticks his head even further into the sand...
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