Guest Peter Lowrey Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 Is it possible to mix the userage of User CAL's and Device CAL's on a single 2008 Terminal Server, and if so, how do you set the TS Licensing mode on the Server? Based on the information here: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/licensing-terminal.aspx Particularly "You may choose to use a combination of TS Device CALs and TS User CALs simultaneously with the server software.", I beleived it was possible, but now that I'm actually looking to install the licenses, I'm scratching my head somewhat. Please Help.
Guest Oliver Schröder Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 Re: TS 2008 User & Device CAL's Hi Peter, for Windows Server 2003 Microsoft said that you have to put your server in "per user" mode if you mix device and user cals. I haven't found a similar 'official' explantation for Windows Server 2008 but it is technically the same - you can not mix cals in device mode so you have to use user-mode. Sorry for my English Oliver "Peter Lowrey" <Peter Lowrey@discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:7DA29A0E-454D-40A1-AF94-CEFF7AD9362B@microsoft.com... > Is it possible to mix the userage of User CAL's and Device CAL's on a > single > 2008 Terminal Server, and if so, how do you set the TS Licensing mode on > the > Server? > > Based on the information here: > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/licensing-terminal.aspx > > Particularly "You may choose to use a combination of TS Device CALs and TS > User CALs simultaneously with the server software.", I beleived it was > possible, but now that I'm actually looking to install the licenses, I'm > scratching my head somewhat. > > Please Help.
Guest Vera Noest [MVP] Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 Re: TS 2008 User & Device CAL's As an addition: it is legally possible, but it will be difficult to know how many licenses you need of each type to comply with the EULA. _________________________________________________________ Vera Noest MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___ =?UTF-8?Q?Oliver_Schr=C3=B6der?= <oliver.schroeder@_NOSPAM_mcs-ag.com> wrote on 10 jul 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services: > Hi Peter, > > for Windows Server 2003 Microsoft said that you have to put > your server in "per user" mode if you mix device and user cals. > I haven't found a similar 'official' explantation for Windows > Server 2008 but it is technically the same - you can not mix > cals in device mode so you have to use user-mode. > > Sorry for my English > > Oliver > > > "Peter Lowrey" <Peter Lowrey@discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb > im Newsbeitrag > news:7DA29A0E-454D-40A1-AF94-CEFF7AD9362B@microsoft.com... >> Is it possible to mix the userage of User CAL's and Device >> CAL's on a single >> 2008 Terminal Server, and if so, how do you set the TS >> Licensing mode on the >> Server? >> >> Based on the information here: >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/licensing-termi >> nal.aspx >> >> Particularly "You may choose to use a combination of TS Device >> CALs and TS User CALs simultaneously with the server >> software.", I beleived it was possible, but now that I'm >> actually looking to install the licenses, I'm scratching my >> head somewhat. >> >> Please Help.
Guest Peter Lowrey Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Re: TS 2008 User & Device CAL's Thanks Oliver, I'll give that a go and see what happens. "Oliver Schröder" wrote: > Hi Peter, > > for Windows Server 2003 Microsoft said that you have to put your server in > "per user" mode if you mix device and user cals. > I haven't found a similar 'official' explantation for Windows Server 2008 > but it is technically the same - you can not mix cals in device mode so you > have to use user-mode. > > Sorry for my English > > Oliver > > > "Peter Lowrey" <Peter Lowrey@discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb im > Newsbeitrag news:7DA29A0E-454D-40A1-AF94-CEFF7AD9362B@microsoft.com... > > Is it possible to mix the userage of User CAL's and Device CAL's on a > > single > > 2008 Terminal Server, and if so, how do you set the TS Licensing mode on > > the > > Server? > > > > Based on the information here: > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/licensing-terminal.aspx > > > > Particularly "You may choose to use a combination of TS Device CALs and TS > > User CALs simultaneously with the server software.", I beleived it was > > possible, but now that I'm actually looking to install the licenses, I'm > > scratching my head somewhat. > > > > Please Help. > >
Guest Peter Lowrey Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Re: TS 2008 User & Device CAL's Hi Vera, Could you elaborate on this for me please? We are only running a small server with 10-15 user CALs and 1 device CAL. Is the problem you mention more applicable to larger installations dealing with larger numbers of mixed CAL's? "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote: > As an addition: it is legally possible, but it will be difficult to > know how many licenses you need of each type to comply with the > EULA. > _________________________________________________________ > Vera Noest > MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server > TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net > ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___ > > =?UTF-8?Q?Oliver_Schr=C3=B6der?= > <oliver.schroeder@_NOSPAM_mcs-ag.com> wrote on 10 jul 2008 in > microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services: > > > Hi Peter, > > > > for Windows Server 2003 Microsoft said that you have to put > > your server in "per user" mode if you mix device and user cals. > > I haven't found a similar 'official' explantation for Windows > > Server 2008 but it is technically the same - you can not mix > > cals in device mode so you have to use user-mode. > > > > Sorry for my English > > > > Oliver > > > > > > "Peter Lowrey" <Peter Lowrey@discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb > > im Newsbeitrag > > news:7DA29A0E-454D-40A1-AF94-CEFF7AD9362B@microsoft.com... > >> Is it possible to mix the userage of User CAL's and Device > >> CAL's on a single > >> 2008 Terminal Server, and if so, how do you set the TS > >> Licensing mode on the > >> Server? > >> > >> Based on the information here: > >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/licensing-termi > >> nal.aspx > >> > >> Particularly "You may choose to use a combination of TS Device > >> CALs and TS User CALs simultaneously with the server > >> software.", I beleived it was possible, but now that I'm > >> actually looking to install the licenses, I'm scratching my > >> head somewhat. > >> > >> Please Help. >
Guest Vera Noest [MVP] Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Re: TS 2008 User & Device CAL's Well, yes, it becomes more complicated with more users, clients and licenses. Since you have only a single device cal, I assume that you have one dedicated client which is available to everyone, and all regular users have their own user cal. That's perfectly manageable. But mostly when this question is asked, people have bought first 50 device and then 50 user licenses. That makes a mess. _________________________________________________________ Vera Noest MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___ =?Utf-8?B?UGV0ZXIgTG93cmV5?= <PeterLowrey@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 11 jul 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services: > Hi Vera, > Could you elaborate on this for me please? We are only running a > small server with 10-15 user CALs and 1 device CAL. Is the > problem you mention more applicable to larger installations > dealing with larger numbers of mixed CAL's? > > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote: > >> As an addition: it is legally possible, but it will be >> difficult to know how many licenses you need of each type to >> comply with the EULA. >> _________________________________________________________ >> Vera Noest >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___ >> >> =?UTF-8?Q?Oliver_Schr=C3=B6der?= >> <oliver.schroeder@_NOSPAM_mcs-ag.com> wrote on 10 jul 2008 in >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services: >> >> > Hi Peter, >> > >> > for Windows Server 2003 Microsoft said that you have to put >> > your server in "per user" mode if you mix device and user >> > cals. I haven't found a similar 'official' explantation for >> > Windows Server 2008 but it is technically the same - you can >> > not mix cals in device mode so you have to use user-mode. >> > >> > Sorry for my English >> > >> > Oliver >> > >> > >> > "Peter Lowrey" <Peter Lowrey@discussions.microsoft.com> >> > schrieb im Newsbeitrag >> > news:7DA29A0E-454D-40A1-AF94-CEFF7AD9362B@microsoft.com... >> >> Is it possible to mix the userage of User CAL's and Device >> >> CAL's on a single >> >> 2008 Terminal Server, and if so, how do you set the TS >> >> Licensing mode on the >> >> Server? >> >> >> >> Based on the information here: >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/licensing-te >> >> rmi nal.aspx >> >> >> >> Particularly "You may choose to use a combination of TS >> >> Device CALs and TS User CALs simultaneously with the server >> >> software.", I beleived it was possible, but now that I'm >> >> actually looking to install the licenses, I'm scratching my >> >> head somewhat. >> >> >> >> Please Help.
Guest Peter Lowrey Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 Re: TS 2008 User & Device CAL's Yes, That makes sense. Thanks for the Clarification. "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote: > Well, yes, it becomes more complicated with more users, clients and > licenses. > Since you have only a single device cal, I assume that you have one > dedicated client which is available to everyone, and all regular > users have their own user cal. That's perfectly manageable. > But mostly when this question is asked, people have bought first 50 > device and then 50 user licenses. That makes a mess. > _________________________________________________________ > Vera Noest > MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server > TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net > ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___ > > =?Utf-8?B?UGV0ZXIgTG93cmV5?= > <PeterLowrey@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 11 jul 2008 in > microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services: > > > Hi Vera, > > Could you elaborate on this for me please? We are only running a > > small server with 10-15 user CALs and 1 device CAL. Is the > > problem you mention more applicable to larger installations > > dealing with larger numbers of mixed CAL's? > > > > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote: > > > >> As an addition: it is legally possible, but it will be > >> difficult to know how many licenses you need of each type to > >> comply with the EULA. > >> _________________________________________________________ > >> Vera Noest > >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server > >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net > >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___ > >> > >> =?UTF-8?Q?Oliver_Schr=C3=B6der?= > >> <oliver.schroeder@_NOSPAM_mcs-ag.com> wrote on 10 jul 2008 in > >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services: > >> > >> > Hi Peter, > >> > > >> > for Windows Server 2003 Microsoft said that you have to put > >> > your server in "per user" mode if you mix device and user > >> > cals. I haven't found a similar 'official' explantation for > >> > Windows Server 2008 but it is technically the same - you can > >> > not mix cals in device mode so you have to use user-mode. > >> > > >> > Sorry for my English > >> > > >> > Oliver > >> > > >> > > >> > "Peter Lowrey" <Peter Lowrey@discussions.microsoft.com> > >> > schrieb im Newsbeitrag > >> > news:7DA29A0E-454D-40A1-AF94-CEFF7AD9362B@microsoft.com... > >> >> Is it possible to mix the userage of User CAL's and Device > >> >> CAL's on a single > >> >> 2008 Terminal Server, and if so, how do you set the TS > >> >> Licensing mode on the > >> >> Server? > >> >> > >> >> Based on the information here: > >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/licensing-te > >> >> rmi nal.aspx > >> >> > >> >> Particularly "You may choose to use a combination of TS > >> >> Device CALs and TS User CALs simultaneously with the server > >> >> software.", I beleived it was possible, but now that I'm > >> >> actually looking to install the licenses, I'm scratching my > >> >> head somewhat. > >> >> > >> >> Please Help. >
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