Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

[Guest Ken Blake, MVP]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:39:29 -0700, "Laura MS MVP" <toidi@tpap.com>

wrote:

> Drop the questioning about my identity, I have nothing to

> prove to you or anybody.

 

 

You are certainly correct that you don't have to prove anything about

your being an MVP to any of us. But as I've pointed out here before,

you continually claim to be an MVP in the face of all the very many of

us who don't believe you.

 

You haven't provided a single shred of evidence that you're an MVP.

And you continue to ignore the challenges to your being an MVP that

many of us have presented. Why should *anybody* believe you?

 

If you're really an MVP, it would really be easy for you to stop all

our attacks and disbelief. Simply prove it. Provide a link to your

profile, as Gary suggested.

 

Your continued refusal to do so speaks volumes about you. *Nobody*

here believes you're an MVP, except possibly an occasional newcomer.

And even the newcomers quickly get straightened out by others.

 

--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

Please Reply to the Newsgroup

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

Oh, you're talking about there being genuine cartridges on the site. You're

right, there are a few. That's why I asked, you scum. I tried lots of models

and only came up with knock-offs.

 

As for who you are, there's no question about that, is there? You're a tiny,

squeezed-off ball of hippo dung, not even worth drying for the fuel.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:%23Wf6pC54IHA.5052@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> "blanket statement like" what, loser?

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "Laura MS MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message

> news:JFOdk.10362$LG4.2098@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...

>> Only idiots would make a stupid blanket statement like that. This just

>> goes to show you that you don't know everything and because "you" don't

>> know does not make it wrong. Drop the questioning about my identity, I

>> have nothing to prove to you or anybody.

>> http://ink4less.com/sitetools/product.php/cat/1394/ctn/mfc5440cn

>>

>>

>> --

>> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's

>> been

>> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:%23WTD2C44IHA.3796@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> "Laura MS MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message

>>> news:EnMdk.12124$cW3.4835@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...

>>>> They sell both.

>>>

>>> Please provide a single link to a manufacturer's cartridge. I see

>>> nothing but POS knockoffs.

>>>

>>>> I use the cheap knock offs it does not void my warranty.

>>>

>>> How do you know? Please provide specific quotes from your printer's

>>> documentation or the manufacturer's website.

>>>

>>>> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's

>>>> been

>>>> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards

>>>> me.

>>>

>>> I've "known" Leythos for many, many years. Never struck me as anything

>>> but honest and upstanding. Whereas I know nothing about you except what

>>> I've read -- which doesn't much support your contentions. So far, your

>>> "advice" is sketchy, at best. And you're NOT an MVP. What you are is

>>> stupid to think any of your BS can't be easily disproved. MS lists its

>>> MVPs (the ones who want to be known to be MVPs) here.

>>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx

>>>

>>> Since you have MS MVP in your signature, I presume you don't want your

>>> Award to be a secret. (Many *real* MVPs don't want anyone to know

>>> they've been given the Award. Not even other MVPs.)

>>>

>>> So, please provide a link to your MVP Profile. Here's an example:

>>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx?name=Gary+Terhune

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>

>>>

>>>> <midwest_46@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:caa4a7d8-a65f-44cf-9163-7b24356b055c@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

>>>> On Jul 10, 11:52?pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

>>>>> I'm thinking those non-Brother ink cartridges probably void the

>>>>> printer's

>>>>> warranty. I'd certainly look it up in the Brother paperwork, first.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/Userhttp://grystmill.com

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Wait a second. I'm a little confused.

>>>>

>>>> Are the cartridges mentioned on the ink4less website GENUINE Brother

>>>> cartridges?

>>>>

>>>> Or are they cheap imitations? Are they NON-Brother?

>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

[Guest measekite]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

 

 

Michael Johnson wrote:

> I buy my compatible

The word compatible is meaningless.

> cartridges from Neximaging and have been very satisfied with them.

 

Ask him who the mfg is of the ink he claims to use.

snip

> midwest_46@yahoo.com wrote:

>> I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4

>> processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space.

>>

>> The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME).

>>

>> A month ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is a

>> multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner.

>>

>> Recently, my "starter" yellow-ink cartridge ran out of ink, and one

>> other cartridge is about to do the same.

>>

>> At the Best Buy store where I bought the printer, Brother cartridges

>> are sold for $13.50 each. I believe that these are the LC51B, LC51Y,

>> LC51C, and LC51M cartridges.

>>

>>

>> Well, I have discovered the website known as http://www.ink4less.com This

>> website seems to sell these cartridges for $4.21 each.

>>

>> Here is the url:

>>

>> http://ink4less.com/sitetools/product.php/cat/4209

>>

>>

>> So, is this some kind of trick or scam? Can I really buy genuine

>> Brother cartridges for only $4.21?

>>

>> Thanks for any help you guys can give me.

[Guest measekite]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

 

 

Arthur Entlich wrote:

> In most countries there are antitrust regulations which do not allow a

> manufacturer from voiding a warranty due to use of a 3rd party

> consumable product. This is part of the tying legislation.

 

That is crap. A printer mfg can withhold warranty services if the

offending ink caused the issue with their printer. They state that in

their warranty as well. Do not listen to the holy one. Call up the

printer mfg tech support and ask them if they will honor a warranty if

the crap ink they used caused their printer to malfunction.

>

> A manufacturer is made responsible to prove that the consumable was

> inferior

That certainly is easy to do. The quality is lower and the ink fades

faster so either the mfg has to admit patent infringement or their

product is not the same.

> in some legitimate manner which would have caused the defect being

> reported. Since, in most cases, the defect is not related to the

> consumable, and the cost to prove it is too high anyway, the

> manufacturer may growl and threaten, but they usually know better than

> to enforce such a warranty restriction.

 

I do not think so.

>

> In more recent manuals for these printers you usually will notice the

> notice is more about "for best quality use original **** brand ink

> cartridges"

>

> Art

>

>

> If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,

> I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:

>

> http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/

>

> midwest_46@yahoo.com wrote:

>> On Jul 10, 11:52�pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

>>> I'm thinking those non-Brother ink cartridges probably void the

>>> printer's

>>> warranty. I'd certainly look it up in the Brother paperwork, first.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/Userhttp://grystmill.com

>>

>>

>> Wait a second. I'm a little confused.

>>

>> Are the cartridges mentioned on the ink4less website GENUINE Brother

>> cartridges?

>>

>> Or are they cheap imitations? Are they NON-Brother?

[Guest David H. Lipman]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

From: "Gary S. Terhune" <none>

 

| "Laura MS MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message

| news:EnMdk.12124$cW3.4835@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...

>> They sell both.

 

| Please provide a single link to a manufacturer's cartridge. I see nothing

| but POS knockoffs.

>> I use the cheap knock offs it does not void my warranty.

 

| How do you know? Please provide specific quotes from your printer's

| documentation or the manufacturer's website.

>> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been

>> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.

 

| I've "known" Leythos for many, many years. Never struck me as anything but

| honest and upstanding. Whereas I know nothing about you except what I've

| read -- which doesn't much support your contentions. So far, your "advice"

| is sketchy, at best. And you're NOT an MVP. What you are is stupid to think

| any of your BS can't be easily disproved. MS lists its MVPs (the ones who

| want to be known to be MVPs) here.

| https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx

 

| Since you have MS MVP in your signature, I presume you don't want your Award

| to be a secret. (Many *real* MVPs don't want anyone to know they've been

| given the Award. Not even other MVPs.)

 

| So, please provide a link to your MVP Profile. Here's an example:

| https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx?name=Gary+Terhune

 

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

| http://grystmill.com

 

Hi Gary:

 

You've hit the nail on the head. I too know Leythos. Not just his Internet personna but

the REAL person behind the Internet personna and he is a well respected businessman and

has done great service for the USA.

 

As Tom has noted, this is Christopher Butts [aka; PCBUTTS1] again. Orginally Microsoft

called him out for his abuse of people on the MS News server, he was blocked from posting

by the news server admin by their server filters. Unfortunately due to changes in who

managed the news server, the filters were removed and when Butts realized this he started

posting as himself. Worse, he started publicly falsifying credentials by add [MS MVP] as

a posting tag. Based upon this falsification of credentials his posts were summarily

removed from the news server. To thwart this action, Butts has been 'nym shifting but

still publicly falsifying credentials by adding the tag MS MVP.

 

I'm sure you access the private MS MVP news service/lists so I know that you are well

acquainted with his history of unethical Internet practices as well as his ongoing

plagiarism

 

--

Dave

http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

[Guest Edric]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:42:18 -0700 (PDT), midwest_46@yahoo.com wrote:

>I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4

>processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space.

>

>The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME).

>

>A month ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is a

>multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner.

>

>Recently, my "starter" yellow-ink cartridge ran out of ink, and one

>other cartridge is about to do the same.

>

>At the Best Buy store where I bought the printer, Brother cartridges

>are sold for $13.50 each. I believe that these are the LC51B, LC51Y,

>LC51C, and LC51M cartridges.

>

>

>Well, I have discovered the website known as http://www.ink4less.com This

>website seems to sell these cartridges for $4.21 each.

>

>Here is the url:

>

>http://ink4less.com/sitetools/product.php/cat/4209

>

>

>So, is this some kind of trick or scam? Can I really buy genuine

>Brother cartridges for only $4.21?

>

>Thanks for any help you guys can give me.

 

Why ask HERE? WHERE you buy your carts from, or whether it is a rip

off or not, has NOTHING to do with XP.

 

Ask elsewhere

[Guest Laura MS MVP]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

Pointing you to my profile will not change a thing except make all you troll

MVP's start sending even more emails to MS. It will make all you evil trolls

know exactly what programs are mine which as it stands right now are

actively being promoted in over 4 forums including mine. That sorry a$$$$ PA

bear, David Lipman, the stalker Leythos and others will continue their chock

full of lies email campaign against me by sending more emails to the people

I do business with. It won't change nothing in this NG.

 

--

Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been

obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.

 

 

 

 

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message

news:ekff74djahodmie741gqhqo57p7p6mrbfs@4ax.com...

> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:39:29 -0700, "Laura MS MVP" <toidi@tpap.com>

> wrote:

>

>> Drop the questioning about my identity, I have nothing to

>> prove to you or anybody.

>

>

> You are certainly correct that you don't have to prove anything about

> your being an MVP to any of us. But as I've pointed out here before,

> you continually claim to be an MVP in the face of all the very many of

> us who don't believe you.

>

> You haven't provided a single shred of evidence that you're an MVP.

> And you continue to ignore the challenges to your being an MVP that

> many of us have presented. Why should *anybody* believe you?

>

> If you're really an MVP, it would really be easy for you to stop all

> our attacks and disbelief. Simply prove it. Provide a link to your

> profile, as Gary suggested.

>

> Your continued refusal to do so speaks volumes about you. *Nobody*

> here believes you're an MVP, except possibly an occasional newcomer.

> And even the newcomers quickly get straightened out by others.

>

> --

> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

[Guest Laura MS MVP]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

And if all that were true then the great MS can't stop me, sure they stop

everybody else but I'm invincible. You certainly tried real hard to stop me

and have failed in every attempt. People don't believe the BS lies you try

to tell then in those emails David and do you know why? Because they already

have the proof sitting right in front of them. I wonder just how many of you

losers have actually contacted Christopher Butts and felt like an idiot when

it was not me.

 

 

--

Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been

obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.

 

 

 

 

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message

news:es0Cg954IHA.784@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> From: "Gary S. Terhune" <none>

>

> | "Laura MS MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message

> | news:EnMdk.12124$cW3.4835@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...

>>> They sell both.

>

> | Please provide a single link to a manufacturer's cartridge. I see

> nothing

> | but POS knockoffs.

>

>>> I use the cheap knock offs it does not void my warranty.

>

> | How do you know? Please provide specific quotes from your printer's

> | documentation or the manufacturer's website.

>

>>> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's

>>> been

>>> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.

>

> | I've "known" Leythos for many, many years. Never struck me as anything

> but

> | honest and upstanding. Whereas I know nothing about you except what I've

> | read -- which doesn't much support your contentions. So far, your

> "advice"

> | is sketchy, at best. And you're NOT an MVP. What you are is stupid to

> think

> | any of your BS can't be easily disproved. MS lists its MVPs (the ones

> who

> | want to be known to be MVPs) here.

> | https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx

>

> | Since you have MS MVP in your signature, I presume you don't want your

> Award

> | to be a secret. (Many *real* MVPs don't want anyone to know they've been

> | given the Award. Not even other MVPs.)

>

> | So, please provide a link to your MVP Profile. Here's an example:

> | https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx?name=Gary+Terhune

>

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | http://grystmill.com

>

> Hi Gary:

>

> You've hit the nail on the head. I too know Leythos. Not just his

> Internet personna but

> the REAL person behind the Internet personna and he is a well respected

> businessman and

> has done great service for the USA.

>

> As Tom has noted, this is Christopher Butts [aka; PCBUTTS1] again.

> Orginally Microsoft

> called him out for his abuse of people on the MS News server, he was

> blocked from posting

> by the news server admin by their server filters. Unfortunately due to

> changes in who

> managed the news server, the filters were removed and when Butts realized

> this he started

> posting as himself. Worse, he started publicly falsifying credentials by

> add [MS MVP] as

> a posting tag. Based upon this falsification of credentials his posts

> were summarily

> removed from the news server. To thwart this action, Butts has been 'nym

> shifting but

> still publicly falsifying credentials by adding the tag MS MVP.

>

> I'm sure you access the private MS MVP news service/lists so I know that

> you are well

> acquainted with his history of unethical Internet practices as well as his

> ongoing

> plagiarism

>

> --

> Dave

> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

>

>

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

Incompetence on the part of MS does not make you invincible, just a lucky

a** hole.

 

It's in the very nature of the Usenet that you can post pretty much anything

you want to. It's your choice whether to be a lying sh* t or not.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"Laura MS MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message

news:yYSdk.15174$uE5.118@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com...

> And if all that were true then the great MS can't stop me, sure they stop

> everybody else but I'm invincible. You certainly tried real hard to stop

> me and have failed in every attempt. People don't believe the BS lies you

> try to tell then in those emails David and do you know why? Because they

> already have the proof sitting right in front of them. I wonder just how

> many of you losers have actually contacted Christopher Butts and felt like

> an idiot when it was not me.

>

>

> --

> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been

> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.

>

>

>

>

> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message

> news:es0Cg954IHA.784@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> From: "Gary S. Terhune" <none>

>>

>> | "Laura MS MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message

>> | news:EnMdk.12124$cW3.4835@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...

>>>> They sell both.

>>

>> | Please provide a single link to a manufacturer's cartridge. I see

>> nothing

>> | but POS knockoffs.

>>

>>>> I use the cheap knock offs it does not void my warranty.

>>

>> | How do you know? Please provide specific quotes from your printer's

>> | documentation or the manufacturer's website.

>>

>>>> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's

>>>> been

>>>> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards

>>>> me.

>>

>> | I've "known" Leythos for many, many years. Never struck me as anything

>> but

>> | honest and upstanding. Whereas I know nothing about you except what

>> I've

>> | read -- which doesn't much support your contentions. So far, your

>> "advice"

>> | is sketchy, at best. And you're NOT an MVP. What you are is stupid to

>> think

>> | any of your BS can't be easily disproved. MS lists its MVPs (the ones

>> who

>> | want to be known to be MVPs) here.

>> | https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx

>>

>> | Since you have MS MVP in your signature, I presume you don't want your

>> Award

>> | to be a secret. (Many *real* MVPs don't want anyone to know they've

>> been

>> | given the Award. Not even other MVPs.)

>>

>> | So, please provide a link to your MVP Profile. Here's an example:

>> |

>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx?name=Gary+Terhune

>>

>> | --

>> | Gary S. Terhune

>> | MS-MVP Shell/User

>> | http://grystmill.com

>>

>> Hi Gary:

>>

>> You've hit the nail on the head. I too know Leythos. Not just his

>> Internet personna but

>> the REAL person behind the Internet personna and he is a well respected

>> businessman and

>> has done great service for the USA.

>>

>> As Tom has noted, this is Christopher Butts [aka; PCBUTTS1] again.

>> Orginally Microsoft

>> called him out for his abuse of people on the MS News server, he was

>> blocked from posting

>> by the news server admin by their server filters. Unfortunately due to

>> changes in who

>> managed the news server, the filters were removed and when Butts realized

>> this he started

>> posting as himself. Worse, he started publicly falsifying credentials by

>> add [MS MVP] as

>> a posting tag. Based upon this falsification of credentials his posts

>> were summarily

>> removed from the news server. To thwart this action, Butts has been 'nym

>> shifting but

>> still publicly falsifying credentials by adding the tag MS MVP.

>>

>> I'm sure you access the private MS MVP news service/lists so I know that

>> you are well

>> acquainted with his history of unethical Internet practices as well as

>> his ongoing

>> plagiarism

>>

>> --

>> Dave

>> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

>> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

>>

>>

>

[Guest Ken Blake, MVP]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:20:11 -0700, "Laura MS MVP" <toidi@tpap.com>

wrote:

> Pointing you to my profile will not change a thing except make all you troll

> MVP's start sending even more emails to MS. It will make all you evil trolls

> know exactly what programs are mine which as it stands right now are

> actively being promoted in over 4 forums including mine. That sorry a$$$$ PA

> bear, David Lipman, the stalker Leythos and others will continue their chock

> full of lies email campaign against me by sending more emails to the people

> I do business with. It won't change nothing in this NG.

 

 

 

That was the kind of answer I expected. It's entirely clear to all of

us that the reason you do not prove you are an MVP is that you can

not. You're not fooling anyone.

 

 

> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message

> news:ekff74djahodmie741gqhqo57p7p6mrbfs@4ax.com...

> > On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:39:29 -0700, "Laura MS MVP" <toidi@tpap.com>

> > wrote:

> >

> >> Drop the questioning about my identity, I have nothing to

> >> prove to you or anybody.

> >

> >

> > You are certainly correct that you don't have to prove anything about

> > your being an MVP to any of us. But as I've pointed out here before,

> > you continually claim to be an MVP in the face of all the very many of

> > us who don't believe you.

> >

> > You haven't provided a single shred of evidence that you're an MVP.

> > And you continue to ignore the challenges to your being an MVP that

> > many of us have presented. Why should *anybody* believe you?

> >

> > If you're really an MVP, it would really be easy for you to stop all

> > our attacks and disbelief. Simply prove it. Provide a link to your

> > profile, as Gary suggested.

> >

> > Your continued refusal to do so speaks volumes about you. *Nobody*

> > here believes you're an MVP, except possibly an occasional newcomer.

> > And even the newcomers quickly get straightened out by others.

> >

> > --

> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

 

--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

Please Reply to the Newsgroup

[Guest midwest_46@yahoo.com]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

On Jul 11, 4:36�pm, measekite <inkysti...@oem.com> wrote:

>

> That is crap. �A printer mfg can withhold warranty services if the

> offending ink caused the issue with their printer. �They state that in

> their warranty as well. �Do not listen to the holy one. � Call up the

> printer mfg tech support and ask them if they will honor a warranty if

> the crap ink they used caused their printer to malfunction.

>

 

According to my printer's manual, "This warranty does not cover:

 

3. Damage caused by another device or software used with this Product

(including but not limited to damage resulting from use of non Brother-

brand parts and Consumable and Accessory items)"

 

 

 

>

> The quality is lower and the ink fades

> faster so either the mfg has to admit patent infringement or their

> product is not the same.

>

 

So ink4less's imitations are crappy and bad?

[Guest Unknown]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

That's all you ever do is quibble.

"Laura MS MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message

news:%MSdk.15173$uE5.3967@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com...

> Pointing you to my profile will not change a thing except make all you

> troll MVP's start sending even more emails to MS. It will make all you

> evil trolls know exactly what programs are mine which as it stands right

> now are actively being promoted in over 4 forums including mine. That

> sorry a$$$$ PA bear, David Lipman, the stalker Leythos and others will

> continue their chock full of lies email campaign against me by sending

> more emails to the people I do business with. It won't change nothing in

> this NG.

>

> --

> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been

> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.

>

>

>

>

> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message

> news:ekff74djahodmie741gqhqo57p7p6mrbfs@4ax.com...

>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:39:29 -0700, "Laura MS MVP" <toidi@tpap.com>

>> wrote:

>>

>>> Drop the questioning about my identity, I have nothing to

>>> prove to you or anybody.

>>

>>

>> You are certainly correct that you don't have to prove anything about

>> your being an MVP to any of us. But as I've pointed out here before,

>> you continually claim to be an MVP in the face of all the very many of

>> us who don't believe you.

>>

>> You haven't provided a single shred of evidence that you're an MVP.

>> And you continue to ignore the challenges to your being an MVP that

>> many of us have presented. Why should *anybody* believe you?

>>

>> If you're really an MVP, it would really be easy for you to stop all

>> our attacks and disbelief. Simply prove it. Provide a link to your

>> profile, as Gary suggested.

>>

>> Your continued refusal to do so speaks volumes about you. *Nobody*

>> here believes you're an MVP, except possibly an occasional newcomer.

>> And even the newcomers quickly get straightened out by others.

>>

>> --

>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>

[Guest Unknown]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

Why don't YOU go elsewhere.

"Edric" <none@nobody.net> wrote in message

news:q4uf741prv1dbn718kju8ugh51hdp9hpoi@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:42:18 -0700 (PDT), midwest_46@yahoo.com wrote:

>

>>I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4

>>processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space.

>>

>>The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME).

>>

>>A month ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is a

>>multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner.

>>

>>Recently, my "starter" yellow-ink cartridge ran out of ink, and one

>>other cartridge is about to do the same.

>>

>>At the Best Buy store where I bought the printer, Brother cartridges

>>are sold for $13.50 each. I believe that these are the LC51B, LC51Y,

>>LC51C, and LC51M cartridges.

>>

>>

>>Well, I have discovered the website known as http://www.ink4less.com This

>>website seems to sell these cartridges for $4.21 each.

>>

>>Here is the url:

>>

>>http://ink4less.com/sitetools/product.php/cat/4209

>>

>>

>>So, is this some kind of trick or scam? Can I really buy genuine

>>Brother cartridges for only $4.21?

>>

>>Thanks for any help you guys can give me.

>

> Why ask HERE? WHERE you buy your carts from, or whether it is a rip

> off or not, has NOTHING to do with XP.

>

> Ask elsewhere

>

[Guest measekite]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

 

 

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> Take a good look at a few of their offerings, for a few different brands of

> printer (HP, Epson, Canon, etc.) Notice how the packaging all looks the

> same, and just below the picture it has the word "Compatible", and they all

> have the same blurb:

>

> "Our products have been specifically designed to produce consistent, sharp

> output from your printer. This product has been manufactured under the ISO

> 9000 quality system and is warranted to be free from defects in materials

> and workmanship for one year. All products are backed by our 4-Star

> Guarantee."

>

> Now go look at this page of brand-name cartridges from Amazon.com

> http://tinyurl.com/57c7ro

>

> How did you think Ink4Less cartridges could only cost pennies on the dollar?

>

 

Because they are crap.

> Maybe they fell off the back of a truck, or something?

>

>

[Guest measekite]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

If they cause the problem you warranty can be voided.

 

Laura MS MVP wrote:

> They sell both. I use the cheap knock offs it does not void my warranty.

>

[Guest measekite]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

 

 

Yianni wrote:

>> Wait a second. I'm a little confused.

>> Are the cartridges mentioned on the ink4less website

>> GENUINE Brother cartridges?

>> Or are they cheap imitations? Are they NON-Brother?

>

> They are compatibles,

Like I said the word compatible is an overused meanless word. There is

not such thing.

> they aren't genuine Brother.

Of coursenot.

> I don't say my opinion about compatibles and genuine (cheap, or

> anything else). Just for your information, -as you may realized from

> the other replies- they are compatibles.

> And avoid crossposting to many newsgroups in the same time:

>

> comp.periphs.printers

> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

> microsoft.public.windowsxp.setup_deployment

> microsoft.public.windowsupdate

>

>

>

[Guest Unknown]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

If you can save $10 on each cartridge, who cares about the warranty?

"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message

news:en4ek.26722$co7.6203@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com...

> If they cause the problem you warranty can be voided.

>

> Laura MS MVP wrote:

>> They sell both. I use the cheap knock offs it does not void my warranty.

>>

[Guest measekite]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

 

 

midwest_46@yahoo.com wrote:

> On Jul 11, 4:36�pm, measekite <inkysti...@oem.com> wrote:

>

>> That is crap. �A printer mfg can withhold warranty services if the

>> offending ink caused the issue with their printer. �They state that in

>> their warranty as well. �Do not listen to the holy one. � Call up the

>> printer mfg tech support and ask them if they will honor a warranty if

>> the crap ink they used caused their printer to malfunction.

>>

>>

>

> According to my printer's manual, "This warranty does not cover:

>

> 3. Damage caused by another device or software used with this Product

> (including but not limited to damage resulting from use of non Brother-

> brand parts and Consumable and Accessory items)"

>

 

They do not want to accept that this is the fact. They deny what is in

print.

>

>

>

>

>> The quality is lower and the ink fades

>> faster so either the mfg has to admit patent infringement or their

>> product is not the same.

>>

>>

>

> So ink4less's imitations are crappy and bad?

>

>

[Guest Leythos]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

In article <%MSdk.15173$uE5.3967@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com>, toidi@tpap.com

says...

> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been

> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.

>

 

Do you really want to trust someone that was banned from posting

directly to Microsoft Usenet servers, someone that has posted links to

pornographic materials on HIS WEBSITE, who's website is in the MVP HOST

Block list, and who provides a tool for your use that will block access

to reputable anti-malware sites without telling you he's doing it?

 

And do you really want to trust someone that has had to change their

posting identity after being busted by MS as a fake MVP?

 

--

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

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[Guest Leythos]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

In article <yYSdk.15174$uE5.118@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com>, toidi@tpap.com

says...

> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been

> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.

>

 

Do you really want to trust someone that was banned from posting

directly to Microsoft Usenet servers, someone that has posted links to

pornographic materials on HIS WEBSITE, who's website is in the MVP HOST

Block list, and who provides a tool for your use that will block access

to reputable anti-malware sites without telling you he's doing it?

 

And do you really want to trust someone that has had to change their

posting identity after being busted by MS as a fake MVP?

 

--

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

[Guest measekite]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

 

 

Unknown wrote:

 

If you can save $10 on each cartridge, who cares about the warranty?

 

 

Those who want quality and more resistance to fading but I guess that is only applicable to HP, Epson and Canon.  Maybe with brother is makes no difference.

 

 

"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message news:en4ek.26722$co7.6203@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com...

 

 

 

If they cause the problem you warranty can be voided. Laura MS MVP wrote:

 

 

 

They sell both. I use the cheap knock offs it does not void my warranty.

[Guest Michael Johnson]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

Yianni wrote:

>> Like I said the word compatible is an overused meanless word. There

>> is not such thing.

>

> Do you have a better name, instead of compatibles?

 

For the benefit of those that don't know, you should know that this guy

is what I consider the village idiot of the printer newsgroups he

frequents. He constantly drones on about how we should all be buying

overpriced OEM ink cartridges and never shows any signs of intelligence

on the matter. The only reason he can promote to support using OEM ink

is fading which has never proved a problem for those of us that uses

compatible inks. He has never used these inks himself but thinks he is

an expert regarding them. Just realize that you're dealing with an

idiot so don't expect a fruitful, intellectually stimulating interchange

with him.

[Guest David H. Lipman]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

From: "Gary S. Terhune" <none>

 

| Incompetence on the part of MS does not make you invincible, just a lucky

| a** hole.

 

| It's in the very nature of the Usenet that you can post pretty much anything

| you want to. It's your choice whether to be a lying sh* t or not.

 

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

| http://grystmill.com

 

And "he's" 'nym shifted again -- "L Truth MVP"

 

 

 

 

 

 

--

Dave

http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

[Guest measekite]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

 

 

Yianni wrote:

>> Like I said the word compatible is an overused meanless word. There

>> is not such thing.

>

> Do you have a better name, instead of compatibles?

 

Usually the crap in works in most of the printers. If you print quite a

bit then the risk of clogging is reduced but not to the point of OEM

ink. If you do not print much then you take your chances. The ink

quality is also below OEM and the risk of fading is much higher. You

spend less but in reality you do not save money because you are not

getting the same thing.

 

Almost all of the generic vendors will not tell you the maker of the ink

so it is difficult to track in the marketplace.

 

PCWorld has an interesting article on this subject this month where they

even softpedaled the perils of the aftermarket ink but their conclusion

in about what I am telling you here. Even so it is an interesting read.

 

You cannot believe most of what you read here in favor of this type of

ink as many are in the business or associated with someone who is in the

ink or printer business and they will never tell the truth.

 

Still others do not have the discerning capacity to properly judge the

results since they are blinding to what they believe are savings.

 

So if you do not print a great deal the amount you do not spend on OEM

ink will not be that much.

 

 

Now Pantone (for the Epson) makes high quality aftermarket ink but you

will find that it is expensive.

[Guest measekite]

Re: Can I buy cheap Brother printer cartridges at www.ink4less.com?

 

 

 

Michael Johnson wrote:

> Yianni wrote:

>>> Like I said the word compatible is an overused meanless word. There

>>> is not such thing.

>>

>> Do you have a better name, instead of compatibles?

>

> For the benefit of those that don't know, you should know that this

> guy is what I consider the village idiot of the printer newsgroups he

> frequents.

 

Junior aka Jerk Junior because he cannot compete as bad as he is with

the Jerk Senior is one of those who does not like it when someone tells

the truth about non OEM ink. Who knows what he think of the PCWorld

article.

> He constantly drones on about how we should all be buying overpriced

> OEM ink cartridges and never shows any signs of intelligence on the

> matter. The only reason he can promote to support using OEM ink is

> fading

Read PCWorld you get better quality and lower fading.

> which has never proved a problem for those of us that uses compatible

> inks.

 

These lies contradict the test results in PCWorld and Wilhelm Labs both

having more respect then this aftermarket shill.

> He has never used these inks himself but thinks he is an expert

> regarding them. Just realize that you're dealing with an idiot

 

Hey Junior he sounds to me like he got your number.

> so don't expect a fruitful, intellectually stimulating interchange

> with him.