“open “, “Save”, or “Save As” dialog box defaults

July 13, 2008

I use WIN XP Pro and have a question about an annoyance in the “open “,

“Save”, or “Save As” dialog box that appears with just all programs and

Internet explorer.

It seems the “open “, “Save”, or “Save As” dialog box defaults to the

“List” view to show files. I all ways have to change to the “Details” view

each time I use the “open” selection. A real time waster when you open many

files.

Is there any way to set the default value to open to the “Details” view? I

have searched and been unable to find any settings. I may not be asking the

right question, Tweak UI or Power Toys did not seem to mention. I am sure

there is probably a registry settings.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

July 13, 2008

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

Already answered in Help_and_Support

--

Regards

Ron Badour

MS MVP Shell User

"krazykat" <krazykat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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>I use WIN XP Pro and have a question about an annoyance in the "open ",

> "Save", or "Save As" dialog box that appears with just all programs and

> Internet explorer.

>

> It seems the "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults to the

> "List" view to show files. I all ways have to change to the "Details" view

> each time I use the "open" selection. A real time waster when you open

> many

> files.

>

> Is there any way to set the default value to open to the "Details" view? I

> have searched and been unable to find any settings. I may not be asking

> the

> right question, Tweak UI or Power Toys did not seem to mention. I am sure

> there is probably a registry settings.

>

> Any suggestions would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

July 13, 2008

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

Ron,

Which Help_and_Support are you referring to? The built in XP Help and

Support? A newsgroup? A Microsoft KB article?

I realize that the MVPs often see the same question for which THEY might

know the answer and/or exactly where the question might have already been

addressed.

I also realize that answering the same questions over and over again can be

frustrating. (I worked for Microsoft PSS in the mid-90s.)

Still, nobody is forcing anyone here to be an MVP. If an MVP feels that he

or she is 'burning out,' maybe it's time for them to take a break.

Alan

"Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message

news:ul7k2WL5IHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Already answered in Help_and_Support

>

> --

> Regards

>

> Ron Badour

> MS MVP Shell User

>

> "krazykat" <krazykat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:6C31C3C6-CA7B-4A56-87BC-3B35A7A83EFB@microsoft.com...

>>I use WIN XP Pro and have a question about an annoyance in the "open ",

>> "Save", or "Save As" dialog box that appears with just all programs and

>> Internet explorer.

>>

>> It seems the "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults to the

>> "List" view to show files. I all ways have to change to the "Details"

>> view

>> each time I use the "open" selection. A real time waster when you open

>> many

>> files.

>>

>> Is there any way to set the default value to open to the "Details" view?

>> I

>> have searched and been unable to find any settings. I may not be asking

>> the

>> right question, Tweak UI or Power Toys did not seem to mention. I am sure

>> there is probably a registry settings.

>>

>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.

>>

>> Thanks,

>

July 13, 2008

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

The same question had already been answered in the

microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support newsgroup. The reason I pointed

that out was merely to keep other people from wasting their time trying to

answer a question that was already answered and acknowledged by the original

poster in another newsgroup. I did not feel the need to chastise the

original poster for posting the same question in two newsgroups--maybe I

should have so it would have been clear to you.

I think you are making invalid assumptions with no facts to back them up.

All statements like yours do is irritate people. If I do get burn out, you

won't see me here.

--

Regards

Ron Badour

MS MVP

Windows Desktop Experience

"Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message

news:OOiw$JP5IHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Ron,

>

> Which Help_and_Support are you referring to? The built in XP Help and

> Support? A newsgroup? A Microsoft KB article?

>

> I realize that the MVPs often see the same question for which THEY might

> know the answer and/or exactly where the question might have already been

> addressed.

>

> I also realize that answering the same questions over and over again can

> be frustrating. (I worked for Microsoft PSS in the mid-90s.)

>

> Still, nobody is forcing anyone here to be an MVP. If an MVP feels that he

> or she is 'burning out,' maybe it's time for them to take a break.

>

> Alan

>

> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message

> news:ul7k2WL5IHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Already answered in Help_and_Support

>>

>> --

>> Regards

>>

>> Ron Badour

>> MS MVP Shell User

>>

>> "krazykat" <krazykat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:6C31C3C6-CA7B-4A56-87BC-3B35A7A83EFB@microsoft.com...

>>>I use WIN XP Pro and have a question about an annoyance in the "open ",

>>> "Save", or "Save As" dialog box that appears with just all programs and

>>> Internet explorer.

>>>

>>> It seems the "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults to the

>>> "List" view to show files. I all ways have to change to the "Details"

>>> view

>>> each time I use the "open" selection. A real time waster when you open

>>> many

>>> files.

>>>

>>> Is there any way to set the default value to open to the "Details" view?

>>> I

>>> have searched and been unable to find any settings. I may not be asking

>>> the

>>> right question, Tweak UI or Power Toys did not seem to mention. I am

>>> sure

>>> there is probably a registry settings.

>>>

>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.

>>>

>>> Thanks,

>>

>

July 13, 2008

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

Ron,

Well, actually, I've had a similar question although I've never bothered to

post it anywhere -- and I'm curious what the answer is.

Is there a link to where the answer has been posted?

I'm not finding a microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support newsgroup

using an NNTP reader.

Alan

"Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message

news:ug4pILT5IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> The same question had already been answered in the

> microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support newsgroup. The reason I

> pointed that out was merely to keep other people from wasting their time

> trying to answer a question that was already answered and acknowledged by

> the original poster in another newsgroup. I did not feel the need to

> chastise the original poster for posting the same question in two

> newsgroups--maybe I should have so it would have been clear to you.

>

> I think you are making invalid assumptions with no facts to back them up.

> All statements like yours do is irritate people. If I do get burn out,

> you won't see me here.

> --

> Regards

>

> Ron Badour

> MS MVP

> Windows Desktop Experience

>

> "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message

> news:OOiw$JP5IHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Ron,

>>

>> Which Help_and_Support are you referring to? The built in XP Help and

>> Support? A newsgroup? A Microsoft KB article?

>>

>> I realize that the MVPs often see the same question for which THEY might

>> know the answer and/or exactly where the question might have already been

>> addressed.

>>

>> I also realize that answering the same questions over and over again can

>> be frustrating. (I worked for Microsoft PSS in the mid-90s.)

>>

>> Still, nobody is forcing anyone here to be an MVP. If an MVP feels that

>> he or she is 'burning out,' maybe it's time for them to take a break.

>>

>> Alan

>>

>> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message

>> news:ul7k2WL5IHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Already answered in Help_and_Support

>>>

>>> --

>>> Regards

>>>

>>> Ron Badour

>>> MS MVP Shell User

>>>

>>> "krazykat" <krazykat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:6C31C3C6-CA7B-4A56-87BC-3B35A7A83EFB@microsoft.com...

>>>>I use WIN XP Pro and have a question about an annoyance in the "open ",

>>>> "Save", or "Save As" dialog box that appears with just all programs and

>>>> Internet explorer.

>>>>

>>>> It seems the "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults to the

>>>> "List" view to show files. I all ways have to change to the "Details"

>>>> view

>>>> each time I use the "open" selection. A real time waster when you open

>>>> many

>>>> files.

>>>>

>>>> Is there any way to set the default value to open to the "Details"

>>>> view? I

>>>> have searched and been unable to find any settings. I may not be asking

>>>> the

>>>> right question, Tweak UI or Power Toys did not seem to mention. I am

>>>> sure

>>>> there is probably a registry settings.

>>>>

>>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks,

>>>

>>

>

July 13, 2008

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

Alan,

It looks like you are using OE6 to post, are you? If so, are you

subscribed to the newsgroups through your ISP's server or

msnews.microsoft.com? If OE6 and msnews, click on tools, newsgroups and on

the resulting screen, type: help_ If you are connecting through your

ISP's server, it may not have microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support .

The only way I know to find a link to a particular thread is to wait until

it hits the Google archives and then do a search on it. Maybe an OE expert

can answer you better.

--

Regards

Ron Badour

MS MVP

Windows Desktop Experience

"Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message

news:e0FAIZT5IHA.4776@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Ron,

>

> Well, actually, I've had a similar question although I've never bothered

> to post it anywhere -- and I'm curious what the answer is.

>

> Is there a link to where the answer has been posted?

>

> I'm not finding a microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support newsgroup

> using an NNTP reader.

>

> Alan

>

> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message

> news:ug4pILT5IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> The same question had already been answered in the

>> microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support newsgroup. The reason I

>> pointed that out was merely to keep other people from wasting their time

>> trying to answer a question that was already answered and acknowledged by

>> the original poster in another newsgroup. I did not feel the need to

>> chastise the original poster for posting the same question in two

>> newsgroups--maybe I should have so it would have been clear to you.

>>

>> I think you are making invalid assumptions with no facts to back them up.

>> All statements like yours do is irritate people. If I do get burn out,

>> you won't see me here.

>> --

>> Regards

>>

>> Ron Badour

>> MS MVP

>> Windows Desktop Experience

>>

>> "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message

>> news:OOiw$JP5IHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Ron,

>>>

>>> Which Help_and_Support are you referring to? The built in XP Help and

>>> Support? A newsgroup? A Microsoft KB article?

>>>

>>> I realize that the MVPs often see the same question for which THEY might

>>> know the answer and/or exactly where the question might have already

>>> been addressed.

>>>

>>> I also realize that answering the same questions over and over again can

>>> be frustrating. (I worked for Microsoft PSS in the mid-90s.)

>>>

>>> Still, nobody is forcing anyone here to be an MVP. If an MVP feels that

>>> he or she is 'burning out,' maybe it's time for them to take a break.

>>>

>>> Alan

>>>

>>> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message

>>> news:ul7k2WL5IHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Already answered in Help_and_Support

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Regards

>>>>

>>>> Ron Badour

>>>> MS MVP Shell User

>>>>

>>>> "krazykat" <krazykat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:6C31C3C6-CA7B-4A56-87BC-3B35A7A83EFB@microsoft.com...

>>>>>I use WIN XP Pro and have a question about an annoyance in the "open ",

>>>>> "Save", or "Save As" dialog box that appears with just all programs

>>>>> and

>>>>> Internet explorer.

>>>>>

>>>>> It seems the "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults to the

>>>>> "List" view to show files. I all ways have to change to the "Details"

>>>>> view

>>>>> each time I use the "open" selection. A real time waster when you open

>>>>> many

>>>>> files.

>>>>>

>>>>> Is there any way to set the default value to open to the "Details"

>>>>> view? I

>>>>> have searched and been unable to find any settings. I may not be

>>>>> asking the

>>>>> right question, Tweak UI or Power Toys did not seem to mention. I am

>>>>> sure

>>>>> there is probably a registry settings.

>>>>>

>>>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

July 13, 2008

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support

....Alan

--

Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer

http://dts-l.com/index.htm

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:17:43 -0400, in

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not>

wrote:

>Ron,

>

>Well, actually, I've had a similar question although I've never bothered to

>post it anywhere -- and I'm curious what the answer is.

>

>Is there a link to where the answer has been posted?

>

>I'm not finding a microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support newsgroup

>using an NNTP reader.

>

> Alan

July 13, 2008

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

Ron,

I could SWEAR that I typed in microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support

correctly when I looked this morning (I embarrassingly say), but it didn't

display then.

Now I see it both on Microsoft's and my own ISP's server.

And the procedure given in the answer even works. :->

Thanks.

Alan

"Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message

news:eaiWn7T5IHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Alan,

>

> It looks like you are using OE6 to post, are you? If so, are you

> subscribed to the newsgroups through your ISP's server or

> msnews.microsoft.com? If OE6 and msnews, click on tools, newsgroups and

> on the resulting screen, type: help_ If you are connecting through your

> ISP's server, it may not have microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support

> .

>

> The only way I know to find a link to a particular thread is to wait until

> it hits the Google archives and then do a search on it. Maybe an OE

> expert can answer you better.

>

> --

> Regards

>

> Ron Badour

> MS MVP

> Windows Desktop Experience

>

> "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message

> news:e0FAIZT5IHA.4776@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Ron,

>>

>> Well, actually, I've had a similar question although I've never bothered

>> to post it anywhere -- and I'm curious what the answer is.

>>

>> Is there a link to where the answer has been posted?

>>

>> I'm not finding a microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support newsgroup

>> using an NNTP reader.

>>

>> Alan

>>

>> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message

>> news:ug4pILT5IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> The same question had already been answered in the

>>> microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support newsgroup. The reason I

>>> pointed that out was merely to keep other people from wasting their time

>>> trying to answer a question that was already answered and acknowledged

>>> by the original poster in another newsgroup. I did not feel the need to

>>> chastise the original poster for posting the same question in two

>>> newsgroups--maybe I should have so it would have been clear to you.

>>>

>>> I think you are making invalid assumptions with no facts to back them

>>> up. All statements like yours do is irritate people. If I do get burn

>>> out, you won't see me here.

>>> --

>>> Regards

>>>

>>> Ron Badour

>>> MS MVP

>>> Windows Desktop Experience

>>>

>>> "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message

>>> news:OOiw$JP5IHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Ron,

>>>>

>>>> Which Help_and_Support are you referring to? The built in XP Help and

>>>> Support? A newsgroup? A Microsoft KB article?

>>>>

>>>> I realize that the MVPs often see the same question for which THEY

>>>> might know the answer and/or exactly where the question might have

>>>> already been addressed.

>>>>

>>>> I also realize that answering the same questions over and over again

>>>> can be frustrating. (I worked for Microsoft PSS in the mid-90s.)

>>>>

>>>> Still, nobody is forcing anyone here to be an MVP. If an MVP feels that

>>>> he or she is 'burning out,' maybe it's time for them to take a break.

>>>>

>>>> Alan

>>>>

>>>> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:ul7k2WL5IHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Already answered in Help_and_Support

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Regards

>>>>>

>>>>> Ron Badour

>>>>> MS MVP Shell User

>>>>>

>>>>> "krazykat" <krazykat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:6C31C3C6-CA7B-4A56-87BC-3B35A7A83EFB@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>I use WIN XP Pro and have a question about an annoyance in the "open

>>>>>>",

>>>>>> "Save", or "Save As" dialog box that appears with just all programs

>>>>>> and

>>>>>> Internet explorer.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> It seems the "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults to the

>>>>>> "List" view to show files. I all ways have to change to the "Details"

>>>>>> view

>>>>>> each time I use the "open" selection. A real time waster when you

>>>>>> open many

>>>>>> files.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Is there any way to set the default value to open to the "Details"

>>>>>> view? I

>>>>>> have searched and been unable to find any settings. I may not be

>>>>>> asking the

>>>>>> right question, Tweak UI or Power Toys did not seem to mention. I am

>>>>>> sure

>>>>>> there is probably a registry settings.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

July 13, 2008

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

Hi Alan (nice name, by the way :-> ),

I just found the microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support group -- and

the solution -- using OE so I'm all set now.

Thanks for your response.

Alan

"Alan Edwards" <edwards@southcom.com.au> wrote in message

news:qg4l74lnvg1qd1d9n0leete0vg4t966q6m@4ax.com...

> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support

>

> ...Alan

> --

> Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer

> http://dts-l.com/index.htm

>

> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:17:43 -0400, in

> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not>

> wrote:

>

>>Ron,

>>

>>Well, actually, I've had a similar question although I've never bothered

>>to

>>post it anywhere -- and I'm curious what the answer is.

>>

>>Is there a link to where the answer has been posted?

>>

>>I'm not finding a microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support newsgroup

>>using an NNTP reader.

>>

>> Alan

July 14, 2008

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

I would like to suggest that you educate yourself a bit on what the MVP

Award actually is. It's a simple acknowledgement of past contributions and

carries no responsibilities on the part of the awardee to act or behave in

any manner other than as relates to the NDA. NOBODY has any business trying

to tell an MVP how to do what they do. By definition, they know how to do it

quite well.

In MS NGs, the phrase, "Already answered in..." has ALWAYS indicated another

Microsoft NG unless otherwise noted. Anyone but a newbie would know that Ron

was referring to a Microsoft NG. Anyone but a newbie would know how to

locate that group. That suggests to me that you're a total newbie... except

most newbies know they don't know how things work and simply ask questions

to find out, whereas you felt the need to *chastise* someone who's been

working these groups longer than all but a handful of people (and most of

the rest of that handful are "retired".) Newbies of that sort usually fall

under the category of "Ignorant A** hole". Is that what you are?

Or do you think perhaps an apology is due?

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

"Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message

news:OOiw$JP5IHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Ron,

>

> Which Help_and_Support are you referring to? The built in XP Help and

> Support? A newsgroup? A Microsoft KB article?

>

> I realize that the MVPs often see the same question for which THEY might

> know the answer and/or exactly where the question might have already been

> addressed.

>

> I also realize that answering the same questions over and over again can

> be frustrating. (I worked for Microsoft PSS in the mid-90s.)

>

> Still, nobody is forcing anyone here to be an MVP. If an MVP feels that he

> or she is 'burning out,' maybe it's time for them to take a break.

>

> Alan

>

> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message

> news:ul7k2WL5IHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Already answered in Help_and_Support

>>

>> --

>> Regards

>>

>> Ron Badour

>> MS MVP Shell User

>>

>> "krazykat" <krazykat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:6C31C3C6-CA7B-4A56-87BC-3B35A7A83EFB@microsoft.com...

>>>I use WIN XP Pro and have a question about an annoyance in the "open ",

>>> "Save", or "Save As" dialog box that appears with just all programs and

>>> Internet explorer.

>>>

>>> It seems the "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults to the

>>> "List" view to show files. I all ways have to change to the "Details"

>>> view

>>> each time I use the "open" selection. A real time waster when you open

>>> many

>>> files.

>>>

>>> Is there any way to set the default value to open to the "Details" view?

>>> I

>>> have searched and been unable to find any settings. I may not be asking

>>> the

>>> right question, Tweak UI or Power Toys did not seem to mention. I am

>>> sure

>>> there is probably a registry settings.

>>>

>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.

>>>

>>> Thanks,

>>

>

July 14, 2008

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

I think Ron and I have settled our little misunderstanding, Gary, but I

appreciate your comments.

I suspect you already know that I'm not a newbie, so please stop your

sermonizing.

My understanding is that an MVP is supposed to conduct himself or herself

with a modicum of professionalism.

However, as you felt the need to get insulting to me, you seem to have

forgotten that aspect of your role as an MVP. So I'll just say that you're

the one

who's being an "Ignorant A** hole"....and a pompous one at that.

Perhaps you should consider that YOU owe ME an apology.

Have a pleasant evening.

Alan

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:umjCfqU5IHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>I would like to suggest that you educate yourself a bit on what the MVP

>Award actually is. It's a simple acknowledgement of past contributions and

>carries no responsibilities on the part of the awardee to act or behave in

>any manner other than as relates to the NDA. NOBODY has any business trying

>to tell an MVP how to do what they do. By definition, they know how to do

>it quite well.

>

> In MS NGs, the phrase, "Already answered in..." has ALWAYS indicated

> another Microsoft NG unless otherwise noted. Anyone but a newbie would

> know that Ron was referring to a Microsoft NG. Anyone but a newbie would

> know how to locate that group. That suggests to me that you're a total

> newbie... except most newbies know they don't know how things work and

> simply ask questions to find out, whereas you felt the need to *chastise*

> someone who's been working these groups longer than all but a handful of

> people (and most of the rest of that handful are "retired".) Newbies of

> that sort usually fall under the category of "Ignorant A** hole". Is that

> what you are?

>

> Or do you think perhaps an apology is due?

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message

> news:OOiw$JP5IHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Ron,

>>

>> Which Help_and_Support are you referring to? The built in XP Help and

>> Support? A newsgroup? A Microsoft KB article?

>>

>> I realize that the MVPs often see the same question for which THEY might

>> know the answer and/or exactly where the question might have already been

>> addressed.

>>

>> I also realize that answering the same questions over and over again can

>> be frustrating. (I worked for Microsoft PSS in the mid-90s.)

>>

>> Still, nobody is forcing anyone here to be an MVP. If an MVP feels that

>> he or she is 'burning out,' maybe it's time for them to take a break.

>>

>> Alan

>>

>> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message

>> news:ul7k2WL5IHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Already answered in Help_and_Support

>>>

>>> --

>>> Regards

>>>

>>> Ron Badour

>>> MS MVP Shell User

>>>

>>> "krazykat" <krazykat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:6C31C3C6-CA7B-4A56-87BC-3B35A7A83EFB@microsoft.com...

>>>>I use WIN XP Pro and have a question about an annoyance in the "open ",

>>>> "Save", or "Save As" dialog box that appears with just all programs and

>>>> Internet explorer.

>>>>

>>>> It seems the "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults to the

>>>> "List" view to show files. I all ways have to change to the "Details"

>>>> view

>>>> each time I use the "open" selection. A real time waster when you open

>>>> many

>>>> files.

>>>>

>>>> Is there any way to set the default value to open to the "Details"

>>>> view? I

>>>> have searched and been unable to find any settings. I may not be asking

>>>> the

>>>> right question, Tweak UI or Power Toys did not seem to mention. I am

>>>> sure

>>>> there is probably a registry settings.

>>>>

>>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks,

>>>

>>

>

July 14, 2008

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

Re: "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults

My entire post to you was a challenge to do the right thing. I didn't call

you an A** hole, I asked you if you ARE one, because the evidence pointed

that way, and challenged you to prove that you aren't. You failed.

For the record, you and Ron "settled (your) differences" by Ron mildly

chastising you for your absolutely rude post, and even following up with

you. That's the kind of guy Ron is, but it doesn't excuse your rudeness. You

should thank him for that, in addition to apologizing for the initial rude

post.

FYI, the MVP Award is for past contributions. It is clearly stated that our

only "obligation" is to an NDA. We are otherwise free to act and post as we

see fit. Which is what I've ALWAYS done. These days I have a short fuse and

I go off on people who piss me off, mostly ingrates and willful idiots. But

that's only one out of every ten or twenty times. The rest of the time, I

"behave" myself.

If MS decides I don't deserve the MVP Award this year because of my attitude

towards idiots and a** holes, that's their right. Meanwhile, I've dumped

"political correctness" entirely. I'm tired of it, and whether I get the

Award this year or not, I'll STILL be here, saying whatever I please,

helping people who need and deserve it, calling out jerks about their rude

behaviors, and even going starkers just for the fun of it. I KNOW when I'm

being an A** hole and it's entirely deliberate.

But this wasn't one of those cases, and if you had any common sense and

honesty you'd know that.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

"Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message

news:OQ4qwWW5IHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>I think Ron and I have settled our little misunderstanding, Gary, but I

> appreciate your comments.

>

> I suspect you already know that I'm not a newbie, so please stop your

> sermonizing.

>

> My understanding is that an MVP is supposed to conduct himself or herself

> with a modicum of professionalism.

>

> However, as you felt the need to get insulting to me, you seem to have

> forgotten that aspect of your role as an MVP. So I'll just say that you're

> the one

> who's being an "Ignorant A** hole"....and a pompous one at that.

>

> Perhaps you should consider that YOU owe ME an apology.

>

> Have a pleasant evening.

>

> Alan

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:umjCfqU5IHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>I would like to suggest that you educate yourself a bit on what the MVP

>>Award actually is. It's a simple acknowledgement of past contributions and

>>carries no responsibilities on the part of the awardee to act or behave in

>>any manner other than as relates to the NDA. NOBODY has any business

>>trying to tell an MVP how to do what they do. By definition, they know how

>>to do it quite well.

>>

>> In MS NGs, the phrase, "Already answered in..." has ALWAYS indicated

>> another Microsoft NG unless otherwise noted. Anyone but a newbie would

>> know that Ron was referring to a Microsoft NG. Anyone but a newbie would

>> know how to locate that group. That suggests to me that you're a total

>> newbie... except most newbies know they don't know how things work and

>> simply ask questions to find out, whereas you felt the need to *chastise*

>> someone who's been working these groups longer than all but a handful of

>> people (and most of the rest of that handful are "retired".) Newbies of

>> that sort usually fall under the category of "Ignorant A** hole". Is that

>> what you are?

>>

>> Or do you think perhaps an apology is due?

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message

>> news:OOiw$JP5IHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Ron,

>>>

>>> Which Help_and_Support are you referring to? The built in XP Help and

>>> Support? A newsgroup? A Microsoft KB article?

>>>

>>> I realize that the MVPs often see the same question for which THEY might

>>> know the answer and/or exactly where the question might have already

>>> been addressed.

>>>

>>> I also realize that answering the same questions over and over again can

>>> be frustrating. (I worked for Microsoft PSS in the mid-90s.)

>>>

>>> Still, nobody is forcing anyone here to be an MVP. If an MVP feels that

>>> he or she is 'burning out,' maybe it's time for them to take a break.

>>>

>>> Alan

>>>

>>> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message

>>> news:ul7k2WL5IHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Already answered in Help_and_Support

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Regards

>>>>

>>>> Ron Badour

>>>> MS MVP Shell User

>>>>

>>>> "krazykat" <krazykat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:6C31C3C6-CA7B-4A56-87BC-3B35A7A83EFB@microsoft.com...

>>>>>I use WIN XP Pro and have a question about an annoyance in the "open ",

>>>>> "Save", or "Save As" dialog box that appears with just all programs

>>>>> and

>>>>> Internet explorer.

>>>>>

>>>>> It seems the "open ", "Save", or "Save As" dialog box defaults to the

>>>>> "List" view to show files. I all ways have to change to the "Details"

>>>>> view

>>>>> each time I use the "open" selection. A real time waster when you open

>>>>> many

>>>>> files.

>>>>>

>>>>> Is there any way to set the default value to open to the "Details"

>>>>> view? I

>>>>> have searched and been unable to find any settings. I may not be

>>>>> asking the

>>>>> right question, Tweak UI or Power Toys did not seem to mention. I am

>>>>> sure

>>>>> there is probably a registry settings.

>>>>>

>>>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

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