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Hi there, I am running Windows XP Home and have the backup program loaded

from the CD. I try to run the program and would like to have it backup the

system every night. I have tried numerous times to use the backup wizard to

do this and each time I am asked for the user name and password. I have

never used a user name or password in the past but added a password to the

string of letters and numbers they gave as a user name and seemed to get

through it. However, everytime it should run I have a message on the

scheduled tasks that says, "could not start." I would apprecate some help in

learning what I am doing wrong. Thanks for your time and knowledge. Bob

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Bob662

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Guest sgopus
Posted

RE: MS Backup Program

 

Take a look in event viewer for the error and report back here what it said.

 

"Bob" wrote:

> Hi there, I am running Windows XP Home and have the backup program loaded

> from the CD. I try to run the program and would like to have it backup the

> system every night. I have tried numerous times to use the backup wizard to

> do this and each time I am asked for the user name and password. I have

> never used a user name or password in the past but added a password to the

> string of letters and numbers they gave as a user name and seemed to get

> through it. However, everytime it should run I have a message on the

> scheduled tasks that says, "could not start." I would apprecate some help in

> learning what I am doing wrong. Thanks for your time and knowledge. Bob

> --

> Bob662

Posted

RE: MS Backup Program

 

sgopus, thanks for the quick response. The event viewer shows the type as

error; Source as ntbackup; Category as none; Event as B001; User as N/A and

Computer as owner. There were no error messages on the scheduled backups as

they never began but the backups that I start manually show that they were

ended as I had stopped them myself. I hope this helps or is what you are

asking for.

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Bob662

 

 

"sgopus" wrote:

> Take a look in event viewer for the error and report back here what it said.

>

> "Bob" wrote:

>

> > Hi there, I am running Windows XP Home and have the backup program loaded

> > from the CD. I try to run the program and would like to have it backup the

> > system every night. I have tried numerous times to use the backup wizard to

> > do this and each time I am asked for the user name and password. I have

> > never used a user name or password in the past but added a password to the

> > string of letters and numbers they gave as a user name and seemed to get

> > through it. However, everytime it should run I have a message on the

> > scheduled tasks that says, "could not start." I would apprecate some help in

> > learning what I am doing wrong. Thanks for your time and knowledge. Bob

> > --

> > Bob662

Guest Patrick Keenan
Posted

Re: MS Backup Program

 

"Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:009EBF55-389F-4D90-A3AF-6A1CC4B1739C@microsoft.com...

> Hi there, I am running Windows XP Home and have the backup program loaded

> from the CD. I try to run the program and would like to have it backup

> the

> system every night. I have tried numerous times to use the backup wizard

> to

> do this and each time I am asked for the user name and password. I have

> never used a user name or password in the past but added a password to the

> string of letters and numbers they gave as a user name and seemed to get

> through it. However, everytime it should run I have a message on the

> scheduled tasks that says, "could not start." I would apprecate some help

> in

> learning what I am doing wrong. Thanks for your time and knowledge. Bob

> --

> Bob662

 

By default, if you attempt to run a scheduled task on a local user account

that has no password, it will silently fail. This is by design, as a

security precaution, and is not limited to Backup.

 

It's easy to get past this. Simply add a password to your user account,

and tell the scheduler what it is. It is possible to turn off the default

behaviour, but it's not prudent from a security standpoint.

 

Also, on XP Home ntbackup has some very annoying limitations; it may well

appear to you that you can do a complete system backup, but you won't

realize that you can't until it fails partway through. And there is no way

around that other than using a less feature-poor backup system. There

are many, and many people rely on imaging programs like Acronis TrueImage.

 

HTH

-pk

Posted

Re: MS Backup Program

 

Patrick, thanks for the information. I'll give that a try and see how I do.

When I was checking out the FAQs I saw that many folks recommended Acronis

TrueImage. I had purchased Retrospect 7.5 but when I took my CPU in for a

problem, the computer repairman said that Retrospect 7.5 had to many whistles

and bells for a home computer. He recommended the ntbackup as simple to use

and great for my needs. Thanks again.

--

Bob662

 

 

"Patrick Keenan" wrote:

> "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:009EBF55-389F-4D90-A3AF-6A1CC4B1739C@microsoft.com...

> > Hi there, I am running Windows XP Home and have the backup program loaded

> > from the CD. I try to run the program and would like to have it backup

> > the

> > system every night. I have tried numerous times to use the backup wizard

> > to

> > do this and each time I am asked for the user name and password. I have

> > never used a user name or password in the past but added a password to the

> > string of letters and numbers they gave as a user name and seemed to get

> > through it. However, everytime it should run I have a message on the

> > scheduled tasks that says, "could not start." I would apprecate some help

> > in

> > learning what I am doing wrong. Thanks for your time and knowledge. Bob

> > --

> > Bob662

>

> By default, if you attempt to run a scheduled task on a local user account

> that has no password, it will silently fail. This is by design, as a

> security precaution, and is not limited to Backup.

>

> It's easy to get past this. Simply add a password to your user account,

> and tell the scheduler what it is. It is possible to turn off the default

> behaviour, but it's not prudent from a security standpoint.

>

> Also, on XP Home ntbackup has some very annoying limitations; it may well

> appear to you that you can do a complete system backup, but you won't

> realize that you can't until it fails partway through. And there is no way

> around that other than using a less feature-poor backup system. There

> are many, and many people rely on imaging programs like Acronis TrueImage.

>

> HTH

> -pk

>

>

Posted

Re: MS Backup Program

 

Patrick, I did as you suggested and added a password to my user account. The

first try after that did not work but then I realized I had not restarted my

computer after adding the password. I restarted the computer and ntbackup

started like a charm. I really do appreciate your time to share your

knowledge with others. I would also like to thank sgopus for their time as

well. Have a great week, Bob

--

Bob662

 

 

"Bob" wrote:

> Patrick, thanks for the information. I'll give that a try and see how I do.

> When I was checking out the FAQs I saw that many folks recommended Acronis

> TrueImage. I had purchased Retrospect 7.5 but when I took my CPU in for a

> problem, the computer repairman said that Retrospect 7.5 had to many whistles

> and bells for a home computer. He recommended the ntbackup as simple to use

> and great for my needs. Thanks again.

> --

> Bob662

>

>

> "Patrick Keenan" wrote:

>

> > "Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:009EBF55-389F-4D90-A3AF-6A1CC4B1739C@microsoft.com...

> > > Hi there, I am running Windows XP Home and have the backup program loaded

> > > from the CD. I try to run the program and would like to have it backup

> > > the

> > > system every night. I have tried numerous times to use the backup wizard

> > > to

> > > do this and each time I am asked for the user name and password. I have

> > > never used a user name or password in the past but added a password to the

> > > string of letters and numbers they gave as a user name and seemed to get

> > > through it. However, everytime it should run I have a message on the

> > > scheduled tasks that says, "could not start." I would apprecate some help

> > > in

> > > learning what I am doing wrong. Thanks for your time and knowledge. Bob

> > > --

> > > Bob662

> >

> > By default, if you attempt to run a scheduled task on a local user account

> > that has no password, it will silently fail. This is by design, as a

> > security precaution, and is not limited to Backup.

> >

> > It's easy to get past this. Simply add a password to your user account,

> > and tell the scheduler what it is. It is possible to turn off the default

> > behaviour, but it's not prudent from a security standpoint.

> >

> > Also, on XP Home ntbackup has some very annoying limitations; it may well

> > appear to you that you can do a complete system backup, but you won't

> > realize that you can't until it fails partway through. And there is no way

> > around that other than using a less feature-poor backup system. There

> > are many, and many people rely on imaging programs like Acronis TrueImage.

> >

> > HTH

> > -pk

> >

> >


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