Unable to install USB driver

July 14, 2008

My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98 USB

driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the driver on

the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.

What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows builds a

new driver information database, detects that it has found the Sunplus

Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but doesn't find one.

I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option, the

"Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all didn't

work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The player won't

work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.

I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB driver from a

CD when Windows won't detect it?

--

{ : [|]=( DaffyD®

If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

July 14, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

I forgot to say that the driver is a USB 2.0 but my system is USB 1, but I

thought the 2.0 driver would be backward compatible. Will I need to buy a

USB 2.0 card?

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

news:uRHVuhW5IHA.784@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98 USB

> driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the driver on

> the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.

>

> What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows builds

a

> new driver information database, detects that it has found the Sunplus

> Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but doesn't find one.

>

> I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option, the

> "Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all didn't

> work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The player won't

> work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.

>

> I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB driver from

a

> CD when Windows won't detect it?

> --

> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>

> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

July 14, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

In news:eUJ15jW5IHA.3784@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl ,

DaffyD® contemplated and posted:

| I forgot to say that the driver is a USB 2.0 but my system is USB 1,

| but I thought the 2.0 driver would be backward compatible. Will I

| need to buy a USB 2.0 card?

USB 2.0 devices need USB 2.0 unless specifically noted... the driver would

have to supply support for USB 1{.1}.

USB 2.0 adapters are relatively cheap, however, they need 98SE to function

properly.

|

| "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

| news:uRHVuhW5IHA.784@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98

|> USB driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the

|> driver on the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.

|>

|> What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows

|> builds a new driver information database, detects that it has found

|> the Sunplus Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but

|> doesn't find one.

|>

|> I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option,

|> the "Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all

|> didn't work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The

|> player won't work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.

|>

|> I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB

|> driver from a CD when Windows won't detect it?

|> --

|> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

|>

|> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

July 14, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

By USB adapter, you mean like the 5-port USB 2.0 PCI Card Terhune wrote

about in another thread? Does it come with drivers--does it need it's own

drivers? How do I find out if my MB supports 2.0?

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:eZKmXhX5IHA.4448@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> In news:eUJ15jW5IHA.3784@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl ,

> DaffyD® contemplated and posted:

>

> | I forgot to say that the driver is a USB 2.0 but my system is USB 1,

> | but I thought the 2.0 driver would be backward compatible. Will I

> | need to buy a USB 2.0 card?

>

> USB 2.0 devices need USB 2.0 unless specifically noted... the driver would

> have to supply support for USB 1{.1}.

> USB 2.0 adapters are relatively cheap, however, they need 98SE to function

> properly.

>

> |

> | "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> | news:uRHVuhW5IHA.784@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> |> My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98

> |> USB driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the

> |> driver on the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.

> |>

> |> What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows

> |> builds a new driver information database, detects that it has found

> |> the Sunplus Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but

> |> doesn't find one.

> |>

> |> I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option,

> |> the "Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all

> |> didn't work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The

> |> player won't work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.

> |>

> |> I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB

> |> driver from a CD when Windows won't detect it?

> |> --

> |> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> |>

> |> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

July 14, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

An mp3 player *should* be backward-compatible with USB 1.1, but the documentation

for the player should state that it is, as MEB mentioned.

Does he have Win98SE?

Exactly what is the name and model of the player? It might help if we could look up

its probably sparse documentation, if it's a Sunplus.

Does the driver disc have a folder tree if you browse it with Windows Explorer? If

so, look for a Win98 folder and/or a Driver folder to point the installer to.

If all else fails, you may be able to access the player using a generic USB driver

for Win98SE, and manually copy the songs you want to play, to the device.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

http://dts-l.net/

http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

news:OlgYOwY5IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> By USB adapter, you mean like the 5-port USB 2.0 PCI Card Terhune wrote

> about in another thread? Does it come with drivers--does it need it's own

> drivers? How do I find out if my MB supports 2.0?

>

> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:eZKmXhX5IHA.4448@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> In news:eUJ15jW5IHA.3784@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl ,

>> DaffyD® contemplated and posted:

>>

>> | I forgot to say that the driver is a USB 2.0 but my system is USB 1,

>> | but I thought the 2.0 driver would be backward compatible. Will I

>> | need to buy a USB 2.0 card?

>>

>> USB 2.0 devices need USB 2.0 unless specifically noted... the driver would

>> have to supply support for USB 1{.1}.

>> USB 2.0 adapters are relatively cheap, however, they need 98SE to function

>> properly.

>>

>> |

>> | "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

>> | news:uRHVuhW5IHA.784@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> |> My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98

>> |> USB driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the

>> |> driver on the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.

>> |>

>> |> What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows

>> |> builds a new driver information database, detects that it has found

>> |> the Sunplus Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but

>> |> doesn't find one.

>> |>

>> |> I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option,

>> |> the "Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all

>> |> didn't work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The

>> |> player won't work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.

>> |>

>> |> I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB

>> |> driver from a CD when Windows won't detect it?

>> |> --

>> |> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>> |>

>> |> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>>

>> --

>> MEB

>> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> --

>> _________

>>

>

July 14, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

In news:OlgYOwY5IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl ,

DaffyD® contemplated and posted:

| By USB adapter, you mean like the 5-port USB 2.0 PCI Card Terhune

| wrote about in another thread? Does it come with drivers--does it

| need it's own drivers? How do I find out if my MB supports 2.0?

Try one of the tools designed to query USB hubs and devices such as the

USBView which came with 98SE in the tools\reskit\diagnose folder on the

installation CDROM. It might be available on disk in the Options folder but

I doubt it.

A better alternative [due to the lack of documentation available for your

system] is one of the hardware diagnostic utilities such as Aida32, MiTeC

MSI [nice tool, does not require installation], SiSoft Sandra {Pro}

[excellent tool], Everest Home Edition, and a number of other diagnostic

tools which can provide in-depth information on chipsets, BIOS, devices,

etc.. With one of these tools you will have a better understanding of all

aspects of the computer and what it can support.

Another tool you have installed will query the system for its present

configuration. Its not generally documented or used, but everyone has it.

Its called hwinfo and is used in the run box with the commandline > hwinfo

/ui <. Its a good way to find out what has been found/installed, drivers,

etc..

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q185956/

Look around if you want something else or other tools, like here:

http://www.cs.umd.edu/class/spring2002/cmsc434-0101/MUIseum/applications/diagnostics.html

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:eZKmXhX5IHA.4448@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

|> In news:eUJ15jW5IHA.3784@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl ,

|> DaffyD® contemplated and posted:

|>

|> | I forgot to say that the driver is a USB 2.0 but my system is USB

|> | 1, but I thought the 2.0 driver would be backward compatible. Will

|> | I need to buy a USB 2.0 card?

|>

|> USB 2.0 devices need USB 2.0 unless specifically noted... the driver

|> would have to supply support for USB 1{.1}.

|> USB 2.0 adapters are relatively cheap, however, they need 98SE to

|> function properly.

|>

|> |

|> | "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

|> | news:uRHVuhW5IHA.784@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|> |> My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows

|> |> 98 USB driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't

|> |> detect the driver on the install CD when running the Add Hardware

|> |> wizard.

|> |>

|> |> What happens is that the driver setup program is installed,

|> |> Windows builds a new driver information database, detects that it

|> |> has found the Sunplus Multidisk disk and will search for a driver

|> |> for it, but doesn't find one.

|> |>

|> |> I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device"

|> |> option, the "Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk"

|> |> and that all didn't work. Craig doesn't have a website so there

|> |> are no FAQs. The player won't work with Windows if the driver

|> |> isn't installed.

|> |>

|> |> I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB

|> |> driver from a CD when Windows won't detect it?

|> |> --

|> |> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

|> |>

|> |> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

|>

|> --

|> MEB

|> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

|> --

|> _________

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

July 14, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

Opps, forgot to answer what I meant by an adapter... YES you would need a

PCI [or an old ISA] USB 2.0 adapter/card installed in your computer.

Generally they support either two or four USB devices [direct connect, 2

channels {or 2 split}- home/general use, or four channel {2 separate chips

with two channels each - industrial grade}] though some of the newer

chips/adapters supply four [or more] channels with a single chip.

You can add additional HUBS [powered is preferred] to increase the amount

of USB devices you can connect. Hubs sometimes also provide a card reader or

other as well.

You could fudge by adding a USB 2.0 hub device, but the computer would be

still be at USB 1 speed and capability. The USB 2.0 Hub would provide the

2.0 connection, but the 2.0 Hub *MUST* be able to connect to and communicate

with USB 1. These devices were produced around the transitional period, and

may no longer be available {?}.

Make sure though, that IF NECESSARY the device/card has 98SE drivers [-

most are PnP - though you might be able to use one of the Universal

Drivers].

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

July 14, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:16:42 -0700, "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> put

finger to keyboard and composed:

>My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98 USB

>driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the driver on

>the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.

>

>What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows builds a

>new driver information database, detects that it has found the Sunplus

>Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but doesn't find one.

>

>I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option, the

>"Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all didn't

>work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The player won't

>work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.

>

>I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB driver from a

>CD when Windows won't detect it?

Use either of the following programs to detect your MP3 player:

http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/USB_IDs/UVCView.x86.exe

http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/USB_IDs/usbview.exe

Look for vendor IDs and product IDs in the output. For example, here

is what I see for an MP3/MP4 player:

idVendor: 0x10D6 = Actions Semiconductor Co., Ltd.

idProduct: 0x1101

iProduct: 0x01

English (United States) "USB 2.0(HS) Flash Disk "

In the above case I would search the CD for INF files containing the

text strings "10D6" and "1101".

Otherwise I have found that the Maximus Decim NUSB driver set will

probably work with your hardware. The MP3 player will show up as a

disc drive in Explorer and you will be able to write and read it just

like any other disc.

http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=43605

- Franc Zabkar

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July 17, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

The mp3 player is a Craig Model CMA317B. It is designed to work with

Win98SE (which is our OS) and has USB 2.0 interface. I emailed their tech

support, but no surprise, there's been no response.

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

news:OPzqGLb5IHA.5108@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> An mp3 player *should* be backward-compatible with USB 1.1, but the

documentation

> for the player should state that it is, as MEB mentioned.

>

> Does he have Win98SE?

>

> Exactly what is the name and model of the player? It might help if we

could look up

> its probably sparse documentation, if it's a Sunplus.

>

> Does the driver disc have a folder tree if you browse it with Windows

Explorer? If

> so, look for a Win98 folder and/or a Driver folder to point the installer

to.

>

> If all else fails, you may be able to access the player using a generic

USB driver

> for Win98SE, and manually copy the songs you want to play, to the device.

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> http://dts-l.net/

> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>

> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> news:OlgYOwY5IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > By USB adapter, you mean like the 5-port USB 2.0 PCI Card Terhune wrote

> > about in another thread? Does it come with drivers--does it need it's

own

> > drivers? How do I find out if my MB supports 2.0?

> >

> > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> > news:eZKmXhX5IHA.4448@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> In news:eUJ15jW5IHA.3784@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl ,

> >> DaffyD® contemplated and posted:

> >>

> >> | I forgot to say that the driver is a USB 2.0 but my system is USB 1,

> >> | but I thought the 2.0 driver would be backward compatible. Will I

> >> | need to buy a USB 2.0 card?

> >>

> >> USB 2.0 devices need USB 2.0 unless specifically noted... the driver

would

> >> have to supply support for USB 1{.1}.

> >> USB 2.0 adapters are relatively cheap, however, they need 98SE to

function

> >> properly.

> >>

> >> |

> >> | "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> >> | news:uRHVuhW5IHA.784@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> |> My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98

> >> |> USB driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the

> >> |> driver on the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.

> >> |>

> >> |> What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows

> >> |> builds a new driver information database, detects that it has found

> >> |> the Sunplus Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but

> >> |> doesn't find one.

> >> |>

> >> |> I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option,

> >> |> the "Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all

> >> |> didn't work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The

> >> |> player won't work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.

> >> |>

> >> |> I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB

> >> |> driver from a CD when Windows won't detect it?

> >> |> --

> >> |> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> >> |>

> >> |> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> >>

> >> --

> >> MEB

> >> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> >> --

> >> _________

> >>

> >

>

July 17, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

I forgot to mention that the installer CD has a folder tree and I pointed to

the folder(s) where the driver should be but Windows still couldn't find the

driver. I even copied the file folders to the desktop but it still doesn't

work.

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

news:OPzqGLb5IHA.5108@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> An mp3 player *should* be backward-compatible with USB 1.1, but the

documentation

> for the player should state that it is, as MEB mentioned.

>

> Does he have Win98SE?

>

> Exactly what is the name and model of the player? It might help if we

could look up

> its probably sparse documentation, if it's a Sunplus.

>

> Does the driver disc have a folder tree if you browse it with Windows

Explorer? If

> so, look for a Win98 folder and/or a Driver folder to point the installer

to.

>

> If all else fails, you may be able to access the player using a generic

USB driver

> for Win98SE, and manually copy the songs you want to play, to the device.

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> http://dts-l.net/

> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>

> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> news:OlgYOwY5IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > By USB adapter, you mean like the 5-port USB 2.0 PCI Card Terhune wrote

> > about in another thread? Does it come with drivers--does it need it's

own

> > drivers? How do I find out if my MB supports 2.0?

> >

> > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> > news:eZKmXhX5IHA.4448@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> In news:eUJ15jW5IHA.3784@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl ,

> >> DaffyD® contemplated and posted:

> >>

> >> | I forgot to say that the driver is a USB 2.0 but my system is USB 1,

> >> | but I thought the 2.0 driver would be backward compatible. Will I

> >> | need to buy a USB 2.0 card?

> >>

> >> USB 2.0 devices need USB 2.0 unless specifically noted... the driver

would

> >> have to supply support for USB 1{.1}.

> >> USB 2.0 adapters are relatively cheap, however, they need 98SE to

function

> >> properly.

> >>

> >> |

> >> | "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> >> | news:uRHVuhW5IHA.784@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> |> My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98

> >> |> USB driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the

> >> |> driver on the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.

> >> |>

> >> |> What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows

> >> |> builds a new driver information database, detects that it has found

> >> |> the Sunplus Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but

> >> |> doesn't find one.

> >> |>

> >> |> I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option,

> >> |> the "Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all

> >> |> didn't work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The

> >> |> player won't work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.

> >> |>

> >> |> I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB

> >> |> driver from a CD when Windows won't detect it?

> >> |> --

> >> |> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> >> |>

> >> |> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> >>

> >> --

> >> MEB

> >> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> >> --

> >> _________

> >>

> >

>

July 17, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

Something you said about finding a generic driver sparked an idea.

I'm actually not sure what I did, but I found a Sunplus USB driver thru the

Hardware wiz. I did get a dialog box about the driver not being designed for

use with the unit but I clicked thru, installed the driver, and now the

software detects the mp3 player and all is fine.

Thanks, Glen.

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

news:OPzqGLb5IHA.5108@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> An mp3 player *should* be backward-compatible with USB 1.1, but the

documentation

> for the player should state that it is, as MEB mentioned.

>

> Does he have Win98SE?

>

> Exactly what is the name and model of the player? It might help if we

could look up

> its probably sparse documentation, if it's a Sunplus.

>

> Does the driver disc have a folder tree if you browse it with Windows

Explorer? If

> so, look for a Win98 folder and/or a Driver folder to point the installer

to.

>

> If all else fails, you may be able to access the player using a generic

USB driver

> for Win98SE, and manually copy the songs you want to play, to the device.

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> http://dts-l.net/

> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>

> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> news:OlgYOwY5IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > By USB adapter, you mean like the 5-port USB 2.0 PCI Card Terhune wrote

> > about in another thread? Does it come with drivers--does it need it's

own

> > drivers? How do I find out if my MB supports 2.0?

> >

> > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> > news:eZKmXhX5IHA.4448@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> In news:eUJ15jW5IHA.3784@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl ,

> >> DaffyD® contemplated and posted:

> >>

> >> | I forgot to say that the driver is a USB 2.0 but my system is USB 1,

> >> | but I thought the 2.0 driver would be backward compatible. Will I

> >> | need to buy a USB 2.0 card?

> >>

> >> USB 2.0 devices need USB 2.0 unless specifically noted... the driver

would

> >> have to supply support for USB 1{.1}.

> >> USB 2.0 adapters are relatively cheap, however, they need 98SE to

function

> >> properly.

> >>

> >> |

> >> | "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> >> | news:uRHVuhW5IHA.784@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> |> My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98

> >> |> USB driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the

> >> |> driver on the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.

> >> |>

> >> |> What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows

> >> |> builds a new driver information database, detects that it has found

> >> |> the Sunplus Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but

> >> |> doesn't find one.

> >> |>

> >> |> I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option,

> >> |> the "Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all

> >> |> didn't work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The

> >> |> player won't work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.

> >> |>

> >> |> I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB

> >> |> driver from a CD when Windows won't detect it?

> >> |> --

> >> |> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> >> |>

> >> |> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> >>

> >> --

> >> MEB

> >> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> >> --

> >> _________

> >>

> >

>

July 17, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

As I wrote Glen, the player works fine--I found an existing Sunplus driver

in Windows. Thanks for the link to the 2 USB device viewers as well as the

link to the USB driverset download.

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

news:lean745v1rrg3hol7u1jfc6nohevs5su5t@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:16:42 -0700, "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> put

> finger to keyboard and composed:

>

> >My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98 USB

> >driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the driver

on

> >the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.

> >

> >What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows

builds a

> >new driver information database, detects that it has found the Sunplus

> >Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but doesn't find one.

> >

> >I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option, the

> >"Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all didn't

> >work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The player

won't

> >work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.

> >

> >I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB driver

from a

> >CD when Windows won't detect it?

>

> Use either of the following programs to detect your MP3 player:

> http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/USB_IDs/UVCView.x86.exe

> http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/USB_IDs/usbview.exe

>

> Look for vendor IDs and product IDs in the output. For example, here

> is what I see for an MP3/MP4 player:

>

> idVendor: 0x10D6 = Actions Semiconductor Co., Ltd.

> idProduct: 0x1101

> iProduct: 0x01

> English (United States) "USB 2.0(HS) Flash Disk "

>

> In the above case I would search the CD for INF files containing the

> text strings "10D6" and "1101".

>

> Otherwise I have found that the Maximus Decim NUSB driver set will

> probably work with your hardware. The MP3 player will show up as a

> disc drive in Explorer and you will be able to write and read it just

> like any other disc.

>

> http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

> http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=43605

>

> - Franc Zabkar

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July 17, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

Turns out I didn't need to buy an USB 2.0 adapter after all. I found a

Sunplus driver in Windows and everything has worked out. Thanks for all the

info you provide.

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:uj2NR6d5IHA.832@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Opps, forgot to answer what I meant by an adapter... YES you would need a

> PCI [or an old ISA] USB 2.0 adapter/card installed in your computer.

> Generally they support either two or four USB devices [direct connect, 2

> channels {or 2 split}- home/general use, or four channel {2 separate chips

> with two channels each - industrial grade}] though some of the newer

> chips/adapters supply four [or more] channels with a single chip.

> You can add additional HUBS [powered is preferred] to increase the amount

> of USB devices you can connect. Hubs sometimes also provide a card reader

or

> other as well.

>

> You could fudge by adding a USB 2.0 hub device, but the computer would be

> still be at USB 1 speed and capability. The USB 2.0 Hub would provide the

> 2.0 connection, but the 2.0 Hub *MUST* be able to connect to and

communicate

> with USB 1. These devices were produced around the transitional period,

and

> may no longer be available {?}.

>

> Make sure though, that IF NECESSARY the device/card has 98SE drivers [-

> most are PnP - though you might be able to use one of the Universal

> Drivers].

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

July 17, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

Cool, how about a link to the SunPlus driver... we're always looking for

generic USB drivers..

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"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

news:uAaIaJ75IHA.300@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| Turns out I didn't need to buy an USB 2.0 adapter after all. I found a

| Sunplus driver in Windows and everything has worked out. Thanks for all

the

| info you provide.

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:uj2NR6d5IHA.832@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > Opps, forgot to answer what I meant by an adapter... YES you would need

a

| > PCI [or an old ISA] USB 2.0 adapter/card installed in your computer.

| > Generally they support either two or four USB devices [direct connect, 2

| > channels {or 2 split}- home/general use, or four channel {2 separate

chips

| > with two channels each - industrial grade}] though some of the newer

| > chips/adapters supply four [or more] channels with a single chip.

| > You can add additional HUBS [powered is preferred] to increase the

amount

| > of USB devices you can connect. Hubs sometimes also provide a card

reader

| or

| > other as well.

| >

| > You could fudge by adding a USB 2.0 hub device, but the computer would

be

| > still be at USB 1 speed and capability. The USB 2.0 Hub would provide

the

| > 2.0 connection, but the 2.0 Hub *MUST* be able to connect to and

| communicate

| > with USB 1. These devices were produced around the transitional period,

| and

| > may no longer be available {?}.

| >

| > Make sure though, that IF NECESSARY the device/card has 98SE drivers [-

| > most are PnP - though you might be able to use one of the Universal

| > Drivers].

| >

| > --

| > MEB

| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > --

| > _________

| >

|

July 17, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

Interesting, if you found it using the New Hardware wizard rather than

online...since Win98SE should not contain any Sunplus drivers natively.

My guess is that there is an error somewhere in the .inf file from the Sunplus CD

which prevented it from being recognised as the correct driver, but it got copied to

your Inf folder anyway when you tried the earlier installs using the CD. When you

searched with the Hardware Wizard now, looking for a driver, that Sunplus driver

cropped up, and turns out it IS the right driver once you manually select it.

That's my theory, anyway.... :-)

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

news:OPgrzD75IHA.4352@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Something you said about finding a generic driver sparked an idea.

> I'm actually not sure what I did, but I found a Sunplus USB driver thru the

> Hardware wiz. I did get a dialog box about the driver not being designed for

> use with the unit but I clicked thru, installed the driver, and now the

> software detects the mp3 player and all is fine.

> Thanks, Glen.

>

> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

> news:OPzqGLb5IHA.5108@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> An mp3 player *should* be backward-compatible with USB 1.1, but the

> documentation

>> for the player should state that it is, as MEB mentioned.

>>

>> Does he have Win98SE?

>>

>> Exactly what is the name and model of the player? It might help if we

> could look up

>> its probably sparse documentation, if it's a Sunplus.

>>

>> Does the driver disc have a folder tree if you browse it with Windows

> Explorer? If

>> so, look for a Win98 folder and/or a Driver folder to point the installer

> to.

>>

>> If all else fails, you may be able to access the player using a generic

> USB driver

>> for Win98SE, and manually copy the songs you want to play, to the device.

>> >> |

>> >> | "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

>> >> | news:uRHVuhW5IHA.784@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> |> My son was just given a Mp3 player which needs to have a Windows 98

>> >> |> USB driver installed. The problem is that Windows doesn't detect the

>> >> |> driver on the install CD when running the Add Hardware wizard.

>> >> |>

>> >> |> What happens is that the driver setup program is installed, Windows

>> >> |> builds a new driver information database, detects that it has found

>> >> |> the Sunplus Multidisk disk and will search for a driver for it, but

>> >> |> doesn't find one.

>> >> |>

>> >> |> I've tried the "Search for the best driver for your device" option,

>> >> |> the "Display a list of all drivers" option, "Have Disk" and that all

>> >> |> didn't work. Craig doesn't have a website so there are no FAQs. The

>> >> |> player won't work with Windows if the driver isn't installed.

>> >> |>

>> >> |> I guess to generalize the question, how does one install a USB

>> >> |> driver from a CD when Windows won't detect it?

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July 17, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:12:04 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>

put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Cool, how about a link to the SunPlus driver... we're always looking for

>generic USB drivers..

>

>--

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

I found this:

http://www.pqi.com.tw/upload/download/U800_Driver.zip

Not sure if it's generic, though.

- Franc Zabkar

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July 17, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:52:58 -0400, "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com>

put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Interesting, if you found it using the New Hardware wizard rather than

>online...since Win98SE should not contain any Sunplus drivers natively.

>

>My guess is that there is an error somewhere in the .inf file from the Sunplus CD

>which prevented it from being recognised as the correct driver, but it got copied to

>your Inf folder anyway when you tried the earlier installs using the CD. When you

>searched with the Hardware Wizard now, looking for a driver, that Sunplus driver

>cropped up, and turns out it IS the right driver once you manually select it.

>

>That's my theory, anyway.... :-)

I suspect the OP could find out what happened by looking at the

following registry keys. If his system is using a generic driver, as

is mine (Maximus Decim NUSB), then maybe his device was detected on

the basis of its class and subclass (see MatchingDeviceId) rather than

its VID and PID. The name of the file in the InfPath would also be of

interest.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\USB\VID_04FC&PID_xxxx

CompatibleIDs

USB\CLASS_08&SUBCLASS_06&PROT_50,USB\CLASS_08&SUBCLASS_06,USB\CLASS_08

Driver USB\00nn

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\USB\00nn

InfPath USBSTOR.INF

MatchingDeviceId USB\Class_08&SubClass_06&Prot_50

NTMPDriver USBSTOR.SYS

I would also question whether the CD driver set was meant to be

installed by means of a setup.exe file.

- Franc Zabkar

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July 17, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

In news:nlmt749n19s2rlnpta6u3msvjt5n4lrp9k@4ax.com ,

Franc Zabkar contemplated and posted:

| On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:12:04 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>

| put finger to keyboard and composed:

|

|>Cool, how about a link to the SunPlus driver... we're always looking

|>for generic USB drivers..

|>

|>--

|> MEB

|> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

|

| I found this:

| http://www.pqi.com.tw/upload/download/U800_Driver.zip

|

| Not sure if it's generic, though.

|

| - Franc Zabkar

Well, looking into the files; seems the W2K driver is actually Microsoft's

5.1.2269.1 (Lab01_N.000912-2233) usbstor.sys renamed, and the smmd.sys is or

could be a generic USB Mass Storage Driver ver. 1.10 from 98DDK.

The specifics [as usual] come into play with the registry settings, USB\VID

entries, and pdr modifiers. The sunplus.bin seems to be the major player for

fat activities.

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_________

July 17, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:16:30 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>

put finger to keyboard and composed:

>In news:nlmt749n19s2rlnpta6u3msvjt5n4lrp9k@4ax.com ,

>Franc Zabkar contemplated and posted:

>

>| On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:12:04 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>

>| put finger to keyboard and composed:

>|

>|>Cool, how about a link to the SunPlus driver... we're always looking

>|>for generic USB drivers..

>|>

>|>--

>|> MEB

>|> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>|

>| I found this:

>| http://www.pqi.com.tw/upload/download/U800_Driver.zip

>|

>| Not sure if it's generic, though.

>|

>| - Franc Zabkar

>

> Well, looking into the files; seems the W2K driver is actually Microsoft's

>5.1.2269.1 (Lab01_N.000912-2233) usbstor.sys renamed, and the smmd.sys is or

>could be a generic USB Mass Storage Driver ver. 1.10 from 98DDK.

> The specifics [as usual] come into play with the registry settings, USB\VID

>entries, and pdr modifiers. The sunplus.bin seems to be the major player for

>fat activities.

The .bin file looks like it might be a 96KB firmware image (128KB -

32KB boot block ???). It contains references to FAT12 and FAT16 and

various terms such as ROCK POP Jazz CLaS DEL REP OFF FULL LO batt.

smmdpdr.pdr appears to be a "USB Mass Storage Port Driver".

>--

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

- Franc Zabkar

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July 18, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

In news:68fv7453gpv4e97pm3jomembm9k04530o0@4ax.com ,

Franc Zabkar contemplated and posted:

| On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:16:30 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>

| put finger to keyboard and composed:

|

|>In news:nlmt749n19s2rlnpta6u3msvjt5n4lrp9k@4ax.com ,

|>Franc Zabkar contemplated and posted:

|>

|>| On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:12:04 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>

|>| put finger to keyboard and composed:

|>|

|>|>Cool, how about a link to the SunPlus driver... we're always looking

|>|>for generic USB drivers..

|>|>

|>|>--

|>|> MEB

|>|> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

|>|

|>| I found this:

|>| http://www.pqi.com.tw/upload/download/U800_Driver.zip

|>|

|>| Not sure if it's generic, though.

|>|

|>| - Franc Zabkar

|>

|> Well, looking into the files; seems the W2K driver is actually

|> Microsoft's

|>5.1.2269.1 (Lab01_N.000912-2233) usbstor.sys renamed, and the

|>smmd.sys is or could be a generic USB Mass Storage Driver ver. 1.10

|>from 98DDK.

|> The specifics [as usual] come into play with the registry settings,

|>USB\VID entries, and pdr modifiers. The sunplus.bin seems to be the

|>major player for fat activities.

|

| The .bin file looks like it might be a 96KB firmware image (128KB -

| 32KB boot block ???). It contains references to FAT12 and FAT16 and

| various terms such as ROCK POP Jazz CLaS DEL REP OFF FULL LO batt.

Right, that's what it seemed like to me, the data used for formatting and

device activities likely via some other part of the application. Perhasp, as

in an iPod, the necessry initialization for the device.

|

| smmdpdr.pdr appears to be a "USB Mass Storage Port Driver".

The statement "#USB Mass Storage Port Driver Sample" is included, and the

file does contain the ACPI and CONFIGMG coding.

The reg entries for it come here [smmd.inf]:

; Install the port driver

[smmdpdr.install]

AddReg=smmdpdr.addreg

[smmdpdr.addreg]

HKR,,DevLoader,,*ios

HKR,,PortDriver,,smmdpdr.pdr

So I suppose it is as you say, not a universal compilation, at least not

without some modifications, though it does contain apparent generic files

which would be used for other like devices..

The 98 Driver Development Kit {DDK} would have the necessary files and

functions to compile drivers if one had the manufacturer's specifics.

Here's some info on universal/cross platform driver/programming

applications:

http://www.thesycon.de/eng/usbio.shtml - demo- USBIO V2.41 Features

Supports USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 Supports low-speed, full-speed, and high-speed

mode Supports all USB transfer types: Bulk, Interrupt, Isochronous and

Control Supports Windows 98 SE, Windows Millennium (ME), Windows 2000,

Windows XP, Windows XP x64, Windows Server 2003 x64, Windows XP embedded,

Windows Vista, Windows Vista x64 Support for Windows 2000 SP4 and Windows XP

SP2.

Supported Platforms x86 x64 USB1.1 USB2.0

Windows 98 / ME

Windows 2000

Windows XP

Windows XP Embedded

Windows Server 2003

Windows Vista

http://www.jungo.com/st/usb_device.html - WinDriver USB Device - demo

facilitates the development of Chapter 9 firmware for USB devices, including

ready-made mass storage function driver for the implementation of standard

storage devices.

http://www.sinter.com.tw/doc/Jungo/wdf_wp.pdf

http://www.alanmacek.com/usb/ - contains a sample USB device and links to

some of the files necessary.

http://www.kitsrus.com/ - DIY Electronics - tools, etc.

http://www.kitsrus.com/software.html

http://search.wareseeker.com/device-driver-development/ - development tools

http://driver.wareseeker.com/Other/microsoft-driver-development-kit-win03.zip/341209 -

Microsoft Driver Development Kit Win03 236 MB

NOTE: I have NOT downloaded this for testing or to check for bugs or

other...

There are numerous programming tools available for the individual chips and

to create drivers and firmware.

|

|>--

|> MEB

|

| - Franc Zabkar

--

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http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

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July 19, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

I think I installed it from the CD possibly from an .inf file. It all

happened so quickly I didn't make a note of the steps I took.

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:%23u5vcr75IHA.2240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Cool, how about a link to the SunPlus driver... we're always looking for

> generic USB drivers..

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> news:uAaIaJ75IHA.300@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | Turns out I didn't need to buy an USB 2.0 adapter after all. I found a

> | Sunplus driver in Windows and everything has worked out. Thanks for all

> the

> | info you provide.

> |

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:uj2NR6d5IHA.832@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > Opps, forgot to answer what I meant by an adapter... YES you would

need

> a

> | > PCI [or an old ISA] USB 2.0 adapter/card installed in your computer.

> | > Generally they support either two or four USB devices [direct connect,

2

> | > channels {or 2 split}- home/general use, or four channel {2 separate

> chips

> | > with two channels each - industrial grade}] though some of the newer

> | > chips/adapters supply four [or more] channels with a single chip.

> | > You can add additional HUBS [powered is preferred] to increase the

> amount

> | > of USB devices you can connect. Hubs sometimes also provide a card

> reader

> | or

> | > other as well.

> | >

> | > You could fudge by adding a USB 2.0 hub device, but the computer

would

> be

> | > still be at USB 1 speed and capability. The USB 2.0 Hub would provide

> the

> | > 2.0 connection, but the 2.0 Hub *MUST* be able to connect to and

> | communicate

> | > with USB 1. These devices were produced around the transitional

period,

> | and

> | > may no longer be available {?}.

> | >

> | > Make sure though, that IF NECESSARY the device/card has 98SE drivers

[-

> | > most are PnP - though you might be able to use one of the Universal

> | > Drivers].

> | >

> | > --

> | > MEB

> | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > --

> | > _________

> | >

> |

>

July 19, 2008

Re: Unable to install USB driver

In news:e3HHohT6IHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl ,

DaffyD® contemplated and posted:

| I think I installed it from the CD possibly from an .inf file. It all

| happened so quickly I didn't make a note of the steps I took.

That's okay, seems Franc located one which we proceeded to tear apart...

yeah likely from the INF...

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:%23u5vcr75IHA.2240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

|> Cool, how about a link to the SunPlus driver... we're always looking

|> for generic USB drivers..

|>

|> --

|> MEB

|> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

|> --

|> _________

|>

|> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

|> news:uAaIaJ75IHA.300@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

|> | Turns out I didn't need to buy an USB 2.0 adapter after all. I

|> | found a Sunplus driver in Windows and everything has worked out.

|> | Thanks for all the info you provide.

|> |

|> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

|> | news:uj2NR6d5IHA.832@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

|> | > Opps, forgot to answer what I meant by an adapter... YES you

|> | > would need a PCI [or an old ISA] USB 2.0 adapter/card installed

|> | > in your computer. Generally they support either two or four USB

|> | > devices [direct connect, 2 channels {or 2 split}- home/general

|> | > use, or four channel {2 separate chips with two channels each -

|> | > industrial grade}] though some of the newer chips/adapters

|> | > supply four [or more] channels with a single chip. You can add

|> | > additional HUBS [powered is preferred] to increase the amount of

|> | > USB devices you can connect. Hubs sometimes also provide a card

|> | > reader or other as well.

|> | >

|> | > You could fudge by adding a USB 2.0 hub device, but the

|> | > computer would be still be at USB 1 speed and capability. The

|> | > USB 2.0 Hub would provide the

|> | > 2.0 connection, but the 2.0 Hub *MUST* be able to connect to and

|> | > communicate with USB 1. These devices were produced around the

|> | > transitional period, and may no longer be available {?}.

|> | >

|> | > Make sure though, that IF NECESSARY the device/card has 98SE

|> | > drivers [- most are PnP - though you might be able to use one of

|> | > the Universal Drivers].

|> | >

|> | > --

|> | > MEB

|> | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

|> | > --

|> | > _________

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