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Guest brbrown
Posted

For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It freezes

on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is

installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way I

can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can choose

to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one at a

time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.

Guest Don Phillipson
Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:3E0AB864-B328-4B71-882C-EB34D68B53F2@microsoft.com...

> For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It

freezes

> on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is

> installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way

I

> can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can

choose

> to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one

at a

> time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.

 

1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see

report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.

But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95

which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.

 

2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT

message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or

a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.

If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just

in case Win98 has been preloaded.

 

3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings

or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes

BootGUI=1

which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.

 

4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC

or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may

be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then

update from the MS web site.

 

--

Don Phillipson

Carlsbad Springs

(Ottawa, Canada)

Guest Ron Badour
Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

Not sure this will work but it doesn't cost anything to try. Boot with a

floppy start up disk. At the A: prompt, type: C: and hit enter. At

the C: prompt, type: exit and hit enter. Remove the disk and try

rebooting.

 

--

Regards

 

Ron Badour

MS MVP

Windows Desktop Experience

 

 

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:3E0AB864-B328-4B71-882C-EB34D68B53F2@microsoft.com...

> For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It

> freezes

> on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is

> installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way

> I

> can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can

> choose

> to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one

> at a

> time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.

>

Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

Does it start successfully in Safe Mode?

 

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:3E0AB864-B328-4B71-882C-EB34D68B53F2@microsoft.com...

> For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It freezes

> on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is

> installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way I

> can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can choose

> to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one at a

> time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.

>

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

http://dts-l.net/

http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

Guest brbrown
Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

 

 

"Don Phillipson" wrote:

> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:3E0AB864-B328-4B71-882C-EB34D68B53F2@microsoft.com...

>

> > For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It

> freezes

> > on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is

> > installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way

> I

> > can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can

> choose

> > to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one

> at a

> > time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.

>

> 1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see

> report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.

> But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95

> which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.

>

> 2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT

> message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or

> a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.

> If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just

> in case Win98 has been preloaded.

>

> 3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings

> or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes

> BootGUI=1

> which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.

>

> 4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC

> or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may

> be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then

> update from the MS web site.

>

> --

> Don Phillipson

> Carlsbad Springs

> (Ottawa, Canada)

>

> Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.

>

Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

Are you doing a clean install? Please let us know of your progress and any

more error messages that you run into.

 

"brbrown" wrote:

>

>

> "Don Phillipson" wrote:

>

> > "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:3E0AB864-B328-4B71-882C-EB34D68B53F2@microsoft.com...

> >

> > > For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It

> > freezes

> > > on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is

> > > installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way

> > I

> > > can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can

> > choose

> > > to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one

> > at a

> > > time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.

> >

> > 1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see

> > report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.

> > But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95

> > which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.

> >

> > 2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT

> > message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or

> > a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.

> > If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just

> > in case Win98 has been preloaded.

> >

> > 3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings

> > or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes

> > BootGUI=1

> > which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.

> >

> > 4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC

> > or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may

> > be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then

> > update from the MS web site.

> >

> > --

> > Don Phillipson

> > Carlsbad Springs

> > (Ottawa, Canada)

> >

> > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.

> >

Guest brbrown
Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

 

 

"Dan" wrote:

> Are you doing a clean install? Please let us know of your progress and any

> more error messages that you run into.

>

> "brbrown" wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > "Don Phillipson" wrote:

> >

> > > "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > news:3E0AB864-B328-4B71-882C-EB34D68B53F2@microsoft.com...

> > >

> > > > For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It

> > > freezes

> > > > on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is

> > > > installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way

> > > I

> > > > can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can

> > > choose

> > > > to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one

> > > at a

> > > > time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.

> > >

> > > 1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see

> > > report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.

> > > But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95

> > > which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.

> > >

> > > 2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT

> > > message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or

> > > a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.

> > > If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just

> > > in case Win98 has been preloaded.

> > >

> > > 3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings

> > > or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes

> > > BootGUI=1

> > > which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.

> > >

> > > 4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC

> > > or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may

> > > be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then

> > > update from the MS web site.

> > >

> > > --

> > > Don Phillipson

> > > Carlsbad Springs

> > > (Ottawa, Canada)

> > >

> > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.

> > >

 

Hello Folks

 

I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but I

cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98

which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I

can't connect to the internet.

Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

You likely need to install at least 5.1 of IE. It contained numerous

Internet/connection related updates... and you'll need the system updates as

well.

NOTE that if you're running SE, you MAY need IE6 installed to get full

functionality.

 

Make sure you have installed DUN and its update, and set your TCP/IP

properly.

 

Are you behind a router, firewall, >>> exactly how do you connect to the

Internet normally?

 

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

 

 

 

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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|

|

| "Dan" wrote:

|

| > Are you doing a clean install? Please let us know of your progress and

any

| > more error messages that you run into.

| >

| > "brbrown" wrote:

| >

| > >

| > >

| > > "Don Phillipson" wrote:

| > >

| > > > "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| > > > news:3E0AB864-B328-4B71-882C-EB34D68B53F2@microsoft.com...

| > > >

| > > > > For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up..

It

| > > > freezes

| > > > > on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos

key is

| > > > > installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The

only way

| > > > I

| > > > > can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I

can

| > > > choose

| > > > > to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all

applications one

| > > > at a

| > > > > time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.

| > > >

| > > > 1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see

| > > > report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.

| > > > But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95

| > > > which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.

| > > >

| > > > 2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT

| > > > message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or

| > > > a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.

| > > > If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just

| > > > in case Win98 has been preloaded.

| > > >

| > > > 3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings

| > > > or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes

| > > > BootGUI=1

| > > > which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.

| > > >

| > > > 4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC

| > > > or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may

| > > > be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then

| > > > update from the MS web site.

| > > >

| > > > --

| > > > Don Phillipson

| > > > Carlsbad Springs

| > > > (Ottawa, Canada)

| > > >

| > > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no

avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to

reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't yet

managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer).

Many thanks anyway for all your help.

| > > >

|

| Hello Folks

|

| I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but

I

| cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98

| which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I

| can't connect to the internet.

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

Just in case... Start>Run>WINIPCFG<enter>

 

Press Release All, then press Renew All. What are the returns?

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:2F1147CB-C137-4ADE-85B3-03EC52C45F20@microsoft.com...

>

>

> "Dan" wrote:

>

>> Are you doing a clean install? Please let us know of your progress and

>> any

>> more error messages that you run into.

>>

>> "brbrown" wrote:

>>

>> >

>> >

>> > "Don Phillipson" wrote:

>> >

>> > > "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> > > news:3E0AB864-B328-4B71-882C-EB34D68B53F2@microsoft.com...

>> > >

>> > > > For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It

>> > > freezes

>> > > > on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos

>> > > > key is

>> > > > installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The

>> > > > only way

>> > > I

>> > > > can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I

>> > > > can

>> > > choose

>> > > > to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all

>> > > > applications one

>> > > at a

>> > > > time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.

>> > >

>> > > 1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see

>> > > report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.

>> > > But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95

>> > > which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.

>> > >

>> > > 2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT

>> > > message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or

>> > > a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.

>> > > If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just

>> > > in case Win98 has been preloaded.

>> > >

>> > > 3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings

>> > > or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes

>> > > BootGUI=1

>> > > which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.

>> > >

>> > > 4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC

>> > > or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may

>> > > be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then

>> > > update from the MS web site.

>> > >

>> > > --

>> > > Don Phillipson

>> > > Carlsbad Springs

>> > > (Ottawa, Canada)

>> > >

>> > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no

>> > > avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just

>> > > decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been successful

>> > > although I haven't yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam

>> > > writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks anyway for all your

>> > > help.

>> > >

>

> Hello Folks

>

> I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but

> I

> cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98

> which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I

> can't connect to the internet.

Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

brbrown wrote:

| "Dan" wrote:

|

|> Are you doing a clean install? Please let us know of your progress

|> and any more error messages that you run into.

|>

|> "brbrown" wrote:

|>

|> >

|> >

|> > "Don Phillipson" wrote:

|> >

|> > > "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

|> > > news:3E0AB864-B328-4B71-882C-EB34D68B53F2@microsoft.com...

|> > >

|> > > > For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start

|> > > > up.. It

|> > > freezes

|> > > > on the first black screen with white writing stating that the

|> > > > "Dos key is installed" and "Mode select code page function is

|> > > > completed". The only way

|> > > I

|> > > > can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which

|> > > > I can

|> > > choose

|> > > > to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all

|> > > > applications one

|> > > at a

|> > > > time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.

|> > >

|> > > 1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see

|> > > report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.

|> > > But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95

|> > > which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.

|> > >

|> > > 2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT

|> > > message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or

|> > > a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.

|> > > If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just

|> > > in case Win98 has been preloaded.

|> > >

|> > > 3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings

|> > > or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes

|> > > BootGUI=1

|> > > which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.

|> > >

|> > > 4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC

|> > > or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may

|> > > be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then

|> > > update from the MS web site.

|> > >

|> > > --

|> > > Don Phillipson

|> > > Carlsbad Springs

|> > > (Ottawa, Canada)

|> > >

|> > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to

|> > > no avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have

|> > > just decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been

|> > > successful although I haven't yet managed to connect to the

|> > > internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks

|> > > anyway for all your help.

|> > >

|

| Hello Folks

|

| I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting

| but I cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean

| restore of W98 which was successful although I still haven't been

| able to find out why I can't connect to the internet.

 

Did you do...?...

 

(a) a fresh install from a Win98 Installation CD,

(b) a system restore from a manufacturer's CD, or

© a system restore from a full system backup of your own?

 

If your version of IE is not at least v.5.5 (or so), you must upgrade it

before you may use Windows Update, as Terhune once discovered. However,

the rest of the internet should work just fine in the meantime-- PA Bear

said!

 

Is your modem (if you use one) showing well in Device Manager, without

any red/yellow ?/! on it?

 

Did you reinstall your ISP & click its connectoid? That may be all you

need to do. If it fails, perhaps try...

 

"START, Programs, Accessories, Communications, Internet Connections

Wizard"

 

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

Guest Ben Myers
Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2F1147CB-C137-4ADE-85B3-03EC52C45F20@microsoft.com...

<snip>>

> > > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.

>

> I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but I

> cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98

> which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I

> can't connect to the internet.

 

Go to "Control Panel", "Internet Options", click on the "Connections" tab,

then click "Setup". Also, it might be helpful to know what happens when

you try to connect to the Internet, including any error messages.

 

Ben

Guest brbrown
Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

 

 

"Ben Myers" wrote:

> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2F1147CB-C137-4ADE-85B3-03EC52C45F20@microsoft.com...

> <snip>>

> > > > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.

> >

> > I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but I

> > cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98

> > which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I

> > can't connect to the internet.

>

> Go to "Control Panel", "Internet Options", click on the "Connections" tab,

> then click "Setup". Also, it might be helpful to know what happens when

> you try to connect to the Internet, including any error messages.

>

> Ben

>

Hello Ben. Thanks for the reply. I've tried that but a message tells me it

cannot find a driver. I am actually searching for a Talktalk driver for my

MT882 router on another forum. When I find one, hopefully , it will work.

I'll post again with the results

Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:9A8FEA7B-756F-4B2B-BA5F-FDDF11B3E0AC@microsoft.com...

>

>

> "Ben Myers" wrote:

>

>> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:2F1147CB-C137-4ADE-85B3-03EC52C45F20@microsoft.com...

>> <snip>>

>> > > > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail

>> > > > > and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to

>> > > > > reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't

>> > > > > yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP

>> > > > > computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.

>> >

>> > I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but I

>> > cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98

>> > which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I

>> > can't connect to the internet.

>>

>> Go to "Control Panel", "Internet Options", click on the "Connections" tab,

>> then click "Setup". Also, it might be helpful to know what happens when

>> you try to connect to the Internet, including any error messages.

>>

>> Ben

>>

> Hello Ben. Thanks for the reply. I've tried that but a message tells me it

> cannot find a driver. I am actually searching for a Talktalk driver for my

> MT882 router on another forum. When I find one, hopefully , it will work.

> I'll post again with the results

 

The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router. Are you

trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I strongly suggest

using Ethernet.

 

See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in posts by

cathyj :

http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2

 

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

http://dts-l.net/

http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

Guest brbrown
Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

 

 

"glee" wrote:

> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:9A8FEA7B-756F-4B2B-BA5F-FDDF11B3E0AC@microsoft.com...

> >

> >

> > "Ben Myers" wrote:

> >

> >> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:2F1147CB-C137-4ADE-85B3-03EC52C45F20@microsoft.com...

> >> <snip>>

> >> > > > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail

> >> > > > > and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to

> >> > > > > reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't

> >> > > > > yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP

> >> > > > > computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.

> >> >

> >> > I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but I

> >> > cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98

> >> > which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I

> >> > can't connect to the internet.

> >>

> >> Go to "Control Panel", "Internet Options", click on the "Connections" tab,

> >> then click "Setup". Also, it might be helpful to know what happens when

> >> you try to connect to the Internet, including any error messages.

> >>

> >> Ben

> >>

> > Hello Ben. Thanks for the reply. I've tried that but a message tells me it

> > cannot find a driver. I am actually searching for a Talktalk driver for my

> > MT882 router on another forum. When I find one, hopefully , it will work.

> > I'll post again with the results

>

> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router. Are you

> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I strongly suggest

> using Ethernet.

>

> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in posts by

> cathyj :

> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2

>

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> http://dts-l.net/

> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>

> Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say though, whilst using the ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no problem at all and I was able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching back on. My problem though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously I had to download the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only. However I cannot now find the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk trying each likely looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a Restore when I chose the wrong one. Brian

Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:36EC224B-2450-4647-A435-43DB4A1F9B91@microsoft.com...

>

> "glee" wrote:

>>

>> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router. Are you

>> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I strongly suggest

>> using Ethernet.

>>

>> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in posts by

>> cathyj :

>> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2

>>

>>

>Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say though, whilst

using the

>ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no problem at all and I

>was

>able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching back on. My

>problem

>though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously I had to

>download

>the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only. However I cannot

>now find

>the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk trying each likely

>looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a Restore when I

>chose the

>wrong one. Brian

 

First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching off and switching

back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that poster's issue

was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how to set it up

using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.

 

Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are trying to avoid

driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be done with it?

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

http://dts-l.net/

http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

Guest brbrown
Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

 

 

"glee" wrote:

> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:36EC224B-2450-4647-A435-43DB4A1F9B91@microsoft.com...

> >

> > "glee" wrote:

> >>

> >> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router. Are you

> >> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I strongly suggest

> >> using Ethernet.

> >>

> >> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in posts by

> >> cathyj :

> >> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2

> >>

> >>

> >Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say though, whilst

> using the

> >ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no problem at all and I

> >was

> >able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching back on. My

> >problem

> >though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously I had to

> >download

> >the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only. However I cannot

> >now find

> >the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk trying each likely

> >looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a Restore when I

> >chose the

> >wrong one. Brian

>

> First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching off and switching

> back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that poster's issue

> was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how to set it up

> using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.

>

> Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are trying to avoid

> driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be done with it?

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> http://dts-l.net/

> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>

> My Smartax router only has one ethernet connection which I use for my XP desktop and it has one USB which I leave plugged in to the W98. I considered using an ethernet hub but I couldn't find an ethernet card with a driver that would support W98. My present arrangement is fine though if I can just sort out the driver I had before.

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

1. You do NOT want a network "hub", you want a "switch."

 

2. Here's some ethernet adapters that bit your needs.

http://tinyurl.com/6rdx2q (Amazon.com)

http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=59629

http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=4763603

http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=7089124

 

Took me five minutes to locate and verify those items, and that's just two

outlets. If you can't find a PCI Ethernet Adapter with Win98 or even Win95

drivers, you just plain aren't looking. But, of course, you really didn't

look, did you? You want to do it YOUR way or NO way at all, right?

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:3FD394EB-6286-42B4-A3C1-501843FD46A3@microsoft.com...

>

>

> "glee" wrote:

>

>> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:36EC224B-2450-4647-A435-43DB4A1F9B91@microsoft.com...

>> >

>> > "glee" wrote:

>> >>

>> >> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router.

>> >> Are you

>> >> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I

>> >> strongly suggest

>> >> using Ethernet.

>> >>

>> >> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in

>> >> posts by

>> >> cathyj :

>> >> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2

>> >>

>> >>

>> >Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say

>> though, whilst

>> using the

>> >ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no problem

>> >at all and I

>> >was

>> >able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching

>> >back on. My

>> >problem

>> >though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously I

>> >had to

>> >download

>> >the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only. However

>> >I cannot

>> >now find

>> >the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk trying

>> >each likely

>> >looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a Restore

>> >when I

>> >chose the

>> >wrong one. Brian

>>

>> First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching off and

>> switching

>> back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that

>> poster's issue

>> was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how to set

>> it up

>> using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.

>>

>> Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are trying to

>> avoid

>> driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be done

>> with it?

>> --

>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

>> http://dts-l.net/

>> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>>

>> My Smartax router only has one ethernet connection which I use for my XP

>> desktop and it has one USB which I leave plugged in to the W98. I

>> considered using an ethernet hub but I couldn't find an ethernet card

>> with a driver that would support W98. My present arrangement is fine

>> though if I can just sort out the driver I had before.

Guest brbrown
Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

 

 

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> 1. You do NOT want a network "hub", you want a "switch."

>

> 2. Here's some ethernet adapters that bit your needs.

> http://tinyurl.com/6rdx2q (Amazon.com)

> http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=59629

> http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=4763603

> http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=7089124

>

> Took me five minutes to locate and verify those items, and that's just two

> outlets. If you can't find a PCI Ethernet Adapter with Win98 or even Win95

> drivers, you just plain aren't looking. But, of course, you really didn't

> look, did you? You want to do it YOUR way or NO way at all, right?

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:3FD394EB-6286-42B4-A3C1-501843FD46A3@microsoft.com...

> >

> >

> > "glee" wrote:

> >

> >> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:36EC224B-2450-4647-A435-43DB4A1F9B91@microsoft.com...

> >> >

> >> > "glee" wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router.

> >> >> Are you

> >> >> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I

> >> >> strongly suggest

> >> >> using Ethernet.

> >> >>

> >> >> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in

> >> >> posts by

> >> >> cathyj :

> >> >> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say

> >> though, whilst

> >> using the

> >> >ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no problem

> >> >at all and I

> >> >was

> >> >able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching

> >> >back on. My

> >> >problem

> >> >though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously I

> >> >had to

> >> >download

> >> >the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only. However

> >> >I cannot

> >> >now find

> >> >the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk trying

> >> >each likely

> >> >looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a Restore

> >> >when I

> >> >chose the

> >> >wrong one. Brian

> >>

> >> First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching off and

> >> switching

> >> back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that

> >> poster's issue

> >> was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how to set

> >> it up

> >> using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.

> >>

> >> Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are trying to

> >> avoid

> >> driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be done

> >> with it?

> >> --

> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> >> http://dts-l.net/

> >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

 

Hello Gary. Thankyou for your forthwright reply. Sorry I did mean a switch

not a hub. Regarding adapters, I did actually research 10 in all, all of

which were reputed not to work with W98 only W98SE. I even bought two that

perported to work with W98 only to find they would not. Even the reply to an

email to Microsoft at the time said that W98 would not support any ethernet

cards. So, I thought my only option was use my USB connection on my router

which happened to work very well, was quite convenient and saved me the

purchase of any other equipment. However, I cannot connect to the three

"pccconnection.com" links you showed but the "tinyurl" one looks fine. Thanks

for the lead.

Brian

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

>

Guest brbrown
Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

 

 

"brbrown" wrote:

>

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

>

> > 1. You do NOT want a network "hub", you want a "switch."

> >

> > 2. Here's some ethernet adapters that bit your needs.

> > http://tinyurl.com/6rdx2q (Amazon.com)

> > http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=59629

> > http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=4763603

> > http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=7089124

> >

> > Took me five minutes to locate and verify those items, and that's just two

> > outlets. If you can't find a PCI Ethernet Adapter with Win98 or even Win95

> > drivers, you just plain aren't looking. But, of course, you really didn't

> > look, did you? You want to do it YOUR way or NO way at all, right?

> >

> > --

> > Gary S. Terhune

> > MS-MVP Shell/User

> > http://grystmill.com

> >

> > "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:3FD394EB-6286-42B4-A3C1-501843FD46A3@microsoft.com...

> > >

> > >

> > > "glee" wrote:

> > >

> > >> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > >> news:36EC224B-2450-4647-A435-43DB4A1F9B91@microsoft.com...

> > >> >

> > >> > "glee" wrote:

> > >> >>

> > >> >> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router.

> > >> >> Are you

> > >> >> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I

> > >> >> strongly suggest

> > >> >> using Ethernet.

> > >> >>

> > >> >> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in

> > >> >> posts by

> > >> >> cathyj :

> > >> >> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2

> > >> >>

> > >> >>

> > >> >Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say

> > >> though, whilst

> > >> using the

> > >> >ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no problem

> > >> >at all and I

> > >> >was

> > >> >able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching

> > >> >back on. My

> > >> >problem

> > >> >though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously I

> > >> >had to

> > >> >download

> > >> >the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only. However

> > >> >I cannot

> > >> >now find

> > >> >the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk trying

> > >> >each likely

> > >> >looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a Restore

> > >> >when I

> > >> >chose the

> > >> >wrong one. Brian

> > >>

> > >> First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching off and

> > >> switching

> > >> back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that

> > >> poster's issue

> > >> was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how to set

> > >> it up

> > >> using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.

> > >>

> > >> Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are trying to

> > >> avoid

> > >> driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be done

> > >> with it?

> > >> --

> > >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> > >> http://dts-l.net/

> > >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>

> Hello Gary. Thankyou for your forthwright reply. Sorry I did mean a switch

> not a hub. Regarding adapters, I did actually research 10 in all, all of

> which were reputed not to work with W98 only W98SE. I even bought two that

> perported to work with W98 only to find they would not. Even the reply to an

> email to Microsoft at the time said that W98 would not support any ethernet

> cards. So, I thought my only option was use my USB connection on my router

> which happened to work very well, was quite convenient and saved me the

> purchase of any other equipment. However, I cannot connect to the three

> "pccconnection.com" links you showed but the "tinyurl" one looks fine. Thanks

> for the lead.

> Brian

>

> Garry, assuming I install the D Link adapter, can you recommend a 5 port switch to enable me to network my XP desktop, my Vista laptop and my W98 desktop please? Brian

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

Whoever you talked to at Microsoft was FOS. EVERY MS operating system,

including at least the later versions of MS-DOS, can use an ethernet

adapter. It's how they've been networking things since 1980. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet

 

That's strange that pcconnection links don't work, but that's their loss.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:8978B477-FB42-4109-A822-8E31F1A645CA@microsoft.com...

>

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

>

>> 1. You do NOT want a network "hub", you want a "switch."

>>

>> 2. Here's some ethernet adapters that bit your needs.

>> http://tinyurl.com/6rdx2q (Amazon.com)

>> http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=59629

>> http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=4763603

>> http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=7089124

>>

>> Took me five minutes to locate and verify those items, and that's just

>> two

>> outlets. If you can't find a PCI Ethernet Adapter with Win98 or even

>> Win95

>> drivers, you just plain aren't looking. But, of course, you really didn't

>> look, did you? You want to do it YOUR way or NO way at all, right?

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:3FD394EB-6286-42B4-A3C1-501843FD46A3@microsoft.com...

>> >

>> >

>> > "glee" wrote:

>> >

>> >> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:36EC224B-2450-4647-A435-43DB4A1F9B91@microsoft.com...

>> >> >

>> >> > "glee" wrote:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a

>> >> >> router.

>> >> >> Are you

>> >> >> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I

>> >> >> strongly suggest

>> >> >> using Ethernet.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page,

>> >> >> in

>> >> >> posts by

>> >> >> cathyj :

>> >> >> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say

>> >> though, whilst

>> >> using the

>> >> >ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no

>> >> >problem

>> >> >at all and I

>> >> >was

>> >> >able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching

>> >> >back on. My

>> >> >problem

>> >> >though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously

>> >> >I

>> >> >had to

>> >> >download

>> >> >the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only.

>> >> >However

>> >> >I cannot

>> >> >now find

>> >> >the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk

>> >> >trying

>> >> >each likely

>> >> >looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a

>> >> >Restore

>> >> >when I

>> >> >chose the

>> >> >wrong one. Brian

>> >>

>> >> First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching off

>> >> and

>> >> switching

>> >> back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that

>> >> poster's issue

>> >> was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how to

>> >> set

>> >> it up

>> >> using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.

>> >>

>> >> Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are trying

>> >> to

>> >> avoid

>> >> driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be done

>> >> with it?

>> >> --

>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

>> >> http://dts-l.net/

>> >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>

> Hello Gary. Thankyou for your forthwright reply. Sorry I did mean a switch

> not a hub. Regarding adapters, I did actually research 10 in all, all of

> which were reputed not to work with W98 only W98SE. I even bought two that

> perported to work with W98 only to find they would not. Even the reply to

> an

> email to Microsoft at the time said that W98 would not support any

> ethernet

> cards. So, I thought my only option was use my USB connection on my router

> which happened to work very well, was quite convenient and saved me the

> purchase of any other equipment. However, I cannot connect to the three

> "pccconnection.com" links you showed but the "tinyurl" one looks fine.

> Thanks

> for the lead.

> Brian

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>>

>>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

http://tinyurl.com/5omola (Amazon.com)

 

Any of these will work. I have no preferences, but because I started out

with Linksys, I tend to stay with it. (There's a $10 rebate to bring the

price down to $8.48 and free shipping if you order in the next three days.)

 

There are no drivers involved. Just remember that a true switch requires a

power supply. However, you have no need for gigabit speeds, so you can cut

cost that way (look for anything not "gigabit" or not 10/100/1000, just

10/100.) Unless you want to consider the future replacement of the

modem/router you're using with one that has gigabit speed, or you want to

add a router to allow internal network gigabit speeds. Just know that to get

gigabit speed, every component in the network must support it. The LAN cards

in the computers, any switches, and especially the router. Note that

anything over 100Mbps LAN speed doesn't won't improve internet speeds until

they go over 100 Mbps, which is a bit farther in the future (but "coming

soon".)

 

Note that this Linksys card has drivers for Win95. http://tinyurl.com/55vp53

If I looked deeper, I could still find cards that work with DOS (even this

one might.)

 

My apologies for incorrect assumptions. Had I known that you were having

problems locating hardware, it would have been a more straight-forward

response on my part.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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>

>

> "brbrown" wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

>>

>> > 1. You do NOT want a network "hub", you want a "switch."

>> >

>> > 2. Here's some ethernet adapters that bit your needs.

>> > http://tinyurl.com/6rdx2q (Amazon.com)

>> > http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=59629

>> > http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=4763603

>> > http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=7089124

>> >

>> > Took me five minutes to locate and verify those items, and that's just

>> > two

>> > outlets. If you can't find a PCI Ethernet Adapter with Win98 or even

>> > Win95

>> > drivers, you just plain aren't looking. But, of course, you really

>> > didn't

>> > look, did you? You want to do it YOUR way or NO way at all, right?

>> >

>> > --

>> > Gary S. Terhune

>> > MS-MVP Shell/User

>> > http://grystmill.com

>> >

>> > "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> > news:3FD394EB-6286-42B4-A3C1-501843FD46A3@microsoft.com...

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > "glee" wrote:

>> > >

>> > >> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> > >> news:36EC224B-2450-4647-A435-43DB4A1F9B91@microsoft.com...

>> > >> >

>> > >> > "glee" wrote:

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a

>> > >> >> router.

>> > >> >> Are you

>> > >> >> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I

>> > >> >> strongly suggest

>> > >> >> using Ethernet.

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the

>> > >> >> page, in

>> > >> >> posts by

>> > >> >> cathyj :

>> > >> >> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say

>> > >> though, whilst

>> > >> using the

>> > >> >ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no

>> > >> >problem

>> > >> >at all and I

>> > >> >was

>> > >> >able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after

>> > >> >switching

>> > >> >back on. My

>> > >> >problem

>> > >> >though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so

>> > >> >previously I

>> > >> >had to

>> > >> >download

>> > >> >the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only.

>> > >> >However

>> > >> >I cannot

>> > >> >now find

>> > >> >the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk

>> > >> >trying

>> > >> >each likely

>> > >> >looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a

>> > >> >Restore

>> > >> >when I

>> > >> >chose the

>> > >> >wrong one. Brian

>> > >>

>> > >> First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching

>> > >> off and

>> > >> switching

>> > >> back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that

>> > >> poster's issue

>> > >> was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how

>> > >> to set

>> > >> it up

>> > >> using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.

>> > >>

>> > >> Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are

>> > >> trying to

>> > >> avoid

>> > >> driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be

>> > >> done

>> > >> with it?

>> > >> --

>> > >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

>> > >> http://dts-l.net/

>> > >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>>

>> Hello Gary. Thankyou for your forthwright reply. Sorry I did mean a

>> switch

>> not a hub. Regarding adapters, I did actually research 10 in all, all of

>> which were reputed not to work with W98 only W98SE. I even bought two

>> that

>> perported to work with W98 only to find they would not. Even the reply to

>> an

>> email to Microsoft at the time said that W98 would not support any

>> ethernet

>> cards. So, I thought my only option was use my USB connection on my

>> router

>> which happened to work very well, was quite convenient and saved me the

>> purchase of any other equipment. However, I cannot connect to the three

>> "pccconnection.com" links you showed but the "tinyurl" one looks fine.

>> Thanks

>> for the lead.

>> Brian

>>

>> Garry, assuming I install the D Link adapter, can you recommend a 5 port

>> switch to enable me to network my XP desktop, my Vista laptop and my W98

>> desktop please? Brian

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> >

>> >

Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

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> Whoever you talked to at Microsoft was FOS. EVERY MS operating system, including

> at least the later versions of MS-DOS, can use an ethernet adapter. It's how

> they've been networking things since 1980. See:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet

>

> That's strange that pcconnection links don't work, but that's their loss.

 

All your links work fine here.....strange that the OP can't use them.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

http://dts-l.net/

http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

Big Brother (anti-malware apps/settings) at work perhaps?

 

Which reminds me to go ruffle PA's fur and ask him what's up with Protected

Mode in IE7/Vista. Doesn't work very well (doesn't provide the prompts it's

supposed to) for certain sites, requiring the user to turn it off, which

requires closing all IE and restarting, and the Status Bar indicator doesn't

seem to know that you've turned it back on until after a reboot. Not nice

not to know if PM is actually on or not.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

news:eRQ1y017IHA.2544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:ecW9H807IHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Whoever you talked to at Microsoft was FOS. EVERY MS operating system,

>> including at least the later versions of MS-DOS, can use an ethernet

>> adapter. It's how they've been networking things since 1980. See:

>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet

>>

>> That's strange that pcconnection links don't work, but that's their loss.

>

> All your links work fine here.....strange that the OP can't use them.

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> http://dts-l.net/

> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>

Guest brbrown
Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

 

Hello Gary

 

Thanks for that. From what you gave me, I have now managed to trace a

suitable ethernet card and switch and placed an order. I'll let you know how

I get on. Brian

Guest brbrown
Posted

Re: Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

 

Well, i have now puchased a Netgear FA311 ethernet card and a Netgear FS605

switch and I am back where I started. I ran the ethernet card CD and finished

up with a message saying that I needed a driver and Windows could find one.

So, I installed the card and plugged the ethernet cable in just in case it

would work like you said, without one. Going through old ground, I have

searched the internet and found many options of FA311 drivers three of which

do not work and I have now uninstalled them. Back to my old question, where

can I find a driver?

 

"brbrown" wrote:

>

> Hello Gary

>

> Thanks for that. From what you gave me, I have now managed to trace a

> suitable ethernet card and switch and placed an order. I'll let you know how

> I get on. Brian

>

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