Guest adi Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 My problem is like this, i have Xp pro installed on a SATA drive which is having 2 partitions as C: and D:, size of disk is 80 GB Xp is installed on C:( Both system and Boot partition are same) Recently I started having a lot of chkdsk error while satrting the machine and while using it also, It appeared that volume has got corrupted or developed surface defects. I reinstalled the Xp on Same partition by deleting the partion C:\ but problem reappeaed again. So I decided to install xp on partion 2 (i.e D:\) on my system during the installation using OS Cd I observed that althoug h i had selected partition 2 during installation ,but xp's setup program first start formatting drive C:\ and since unable to format it (Due to surface defects dispalyas a message) installation could not be continued. To resolve this problem,During installation when setup asks you to choose and create partion i deleted the First partition, and then tried the installation, i met with the same error Partition are not iwhich xp can understand and again prompted to create partition 1 and then format it. No luck Thinking that (and guessing too) whole of my Partion1 will not be damaged so in the next setup I created a 5 GB, 40Gb,30GB partitions and selected Partitions 3 (i.e 30 GB) during installation, again the xp setup program first went to format 5 GB partition , but this time this portion of disk was healthy so it was formatted sucessfully , After formatting 5GB partition setup went on to format my 30 GB partion and xp was finally installed, and I thiught that I had made good use of disk space The real problem started here when i went in disk management i found C:(5 GB) was listed as system partition and E:(30 Gb) as boot partition. since i dont want to run system on failing disk partion i thought to make E:\930 Gb) as system partition i used the diskpart to make it active and made the C:(5GB) partition as inactive and copied the boot.ini and ntdetect and ntldr to E: partion and tried to boot the machine surprisingly my machine didnot started. thinking that boot record are not written properly i used recovery console to run fixboot E:\ No result, when i tried to run fixmbr I meeted a warning MBR on your disk is not standard writing a new MBR will make your partitions inacessible( why and how the nonstandard MBR came into the picture, from where this nonstandard MBR came ?) i also tried to run bootcfg /rebuild no sucess, i again reinstalled xp using 5Gb,40 Gb, 30 Gb trick ( No Luck) My qustion is if you have a say 80, or 160 Gb HDD and for some reason your HD is damaged (primary partion) then there is no use of purchasing big size disks as setup creates one primary partition other as extended and logical partions CAN SOMBODY TELL ME HOW TO MAKE MY E:\ PARTION AS SYSTEM PARTITION WITHOUT REINSTALLING WINDOWS AGAIN, Is it happening because of extended partion and logical partitions created by setup HOW TO CREATE PRIMARY PARTITION USING SETUP CD ( NOT USING ANY PE) WILL CREATING A PRIMARY PARTITION USING SOME PE WILL HELP ME TO INSTALL XP ON e: PARTITION WITH SYSTEM AND BOOT VOL AS SAME
Guest Ghostrider Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Re: install Xp on partion 2 when Partion 1 is damaged adi wrote: > My problem is like this, i have Xp pro installed on a SATA drive which is > having 2 partitions as C: and D:, size of disk is 80 GB > > Xp is installed on C:( Both system and Boot partition are same) > > Recently I started having a lot of chkdsk error while satrting the machine > and while using it also, It appeared that volume has got corrupted or > developed surface defects. > > I reinstalled the Xp on Same partition by deleting the partion C:\ but > problem reappeaed again. > > So I decided to install xp on partion 2 (i.e D:\) on my system during the > installation using OS Cd > > I observed that althoug h i had selected partition 2 during installation > ,but xp's setup program first start formatting drive C:\ and since unable to > format it (Due to surface defects dispalyas a message) installation could not > be continued. > > To resolve this problem,During installation when setup asks you to choose > and create partion i deleted the First partition, and then tried the > installation, i met with the same error Partition are not iwhich xp can > understand and again prompted to create partition 1 and then format it. No > luck > > Thinking that (and guessing too) whole of my Partion1 will not be damaged so > in the next setup I created a 5 GB, 40Gb,30GB partitions and selected > Partitions 3 (i.e 30 GB) during installation, again the xp setup program > first went to format 5 GB partition , but this time this portion of disk was > healthy so it was formatted sucessfully , > > After formatting 5GB partition setup went on to format my 30 GB partion and > xp was finally installed, and I thiught that I had made good use of disk space > > The real problem started here when i went in disk management i found C:(5 > GB) was listed as system partition and E:(30 Gb) as boot partition. > > since i dont want to run system on failing disk partion i thought to make > E:\930 Gb) as system partition > > i used the diskpart to make it active and made the C:(5GB) partition as > inactive and copied the boot.ini and ntdetect and ntldr to E: partion and > tried to boot > the machine surprisingly my machine didnot started. > > thinking that boot record are not written properly i used recovery console > to run fixboot E:\ > > No result, > > when i tried to run fixmbr I meeted a warning MBR on your disk is not > standard writing a new MBR will make your partitions inacessible( why and how > the nonstandard MBR came into the picture, from where this nonstandard MBR > came ?) > > i also tried to run bootcfg /rebuild no sucess, > > i again reinstalled xp using 5Gb,40 Gb, 30 Gb trick ( No Luck) > > My qustion is if you have a say 80, or 160 Gb HDD and for some reason your > HD is damaged (primary partion) then there is no use of purchasing big size > disks > as setup creates one primary partition other as extended and logical partions > > CAN SOMBODY TELL ME HOW TO MAKE MY E:\ PARTION AS SYSTEM PARTITION WITHOUT > REINSTALLING WINDOWS AGAIN, > > Is it happening because of extended partion and logical partitions created > by setup > > HOW TO CREATE PRIMARY PARTITION USING SETUP CD ( NOT USING ANY PE) > > WILL CREATING A PRIMARY PARTITION USING SOME PE WILL HELP ME TO INSTALL XP > ON e: PARTITION WITH SYSTEM AND BOOT VOL AS SAME My understanding is that there is one physical SATA hard drive with Drive C in the primary partition and Drive D as an extended partition. Regardless of where Windows XP is going to be installed, it will need the boot sector of Drive C. By definition, then, Drive C is the "boot" partition because that is where the boot tracks, boot manager, etc., are located. Wherever the OS proper resides, be it Drive C, D or E, then that becomes the "system" partition. (I think these are the proper definitions.) But getting specifically to your problem, the SATA drive is no longer dependable. It should be replaced. Period. It does not matter whether or not the physical hard drive has just one partition or is divided up into partitions with logical drives. There are no dividends in doing what you are attempting.
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Re: install Xp on partion 2 when Partion 1 is damaged "Ghostrider" <-00-@fitron.142> wrote in message news:%23TrbYIe5IHA.3932@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > adi wrote: > >> My problem is like this, i have Xp pro installed on a SATA drive which is >> having 2 partitions as C: and D:, size of disk is 80 GB >> >> Xp is installed on C:( Both system and Boot partition are same) >> >> Recently I started having a lot of chkdsk error while satrting the >> machine and while using it also, It appeared that volume has got >> corrupted or developed surface defects. >> >> I reinstalled the Xp on Same partition by deleting the partion C:\ but >> problem reappeaed again. >> >> So I decided to install xp on partion 2 (i.e D:\) on my system during the >> installation using OS Cd >> >> I observed that althoug h i had selected partition 2 during installation >> ,but xp's setup program first start formatting drive C:\ and since unable >> to format it (Due to surface defects dispalyas a message) installation >> could not be continued. >> >> To resolve this problem,During installation when setup asks you to choose >> and create partion i deleted the First partition, and then tried the >> installation, i met with the same error Partition are not iwhich xp can >> understand and again prompted to create partition 1 and then format it. >> No luck >> >> Thinking that (and guessing too) whole of my Partion1 will not be damaged >> so in the next setup I created a 5 GB, 40Gb,30GB partitions and selected >> Partitions 3 (i.e 30 GB) during installation, again the xp setup program >> first went to format 5 GB partition , but this time this portion of disk >> was healthy so it was formatted sucessfully , >> >> After formatting 5GB partition setup went on to format my 30 GB partion >> and xp was finally installed, and I thiught that I had made good use of >> disk space >> >> The real problem started here when i went in disk management i found C:(5 >> GB) was listed as system partition and E:(30 Gb) as boot partition. >> >> since i dont want to run system on failing disk partion i thought to make >> E:\930 Gb) as system partition >> >> i used the diskpart to make it active and made the C:(5GB) partition as >> inactive and copied the boot.ini and ntdetect and ntldr to E: partion and >> tried to boot the machine surprisingly my machine didnot started. >> >> thinking that boot record are not written properly i used recovery >> console to run fixboot E:\ >> >> No result, >> >> when i tried to run fixmbr I meeted a warning MBR on your disk is not >> standard writing a new MBR will make your partitions inacessible( why and >> how the nonstandard MBR came into the picture, from where this >> nonstandard MBR came ?) >> >> i also tried to run bootcfg /rebuild no sucess, >> >> i again reinstalled xp using 5Gb,40 Gb, 30 Gb trick ( No Luck) >> >> My qustion is if you have a say 80, or 160 Gb HDD and for some reason >> your HD is damaged (primary partion) then there is no use of purchasing >> big size disks >> as setup creates one primary partition other as extended and logical >> partions >> >> CAN SOMBODY TELL ME HOW TO MAKE MY E:\ PARTION AS SYSTEM PARTITION >> WITHOUT REINSTALLING WINDOWS AGAIN, >> >> Is it happening because of extended partion and logical partitions >> created by setup >> >> HOW TO CREATE PRIMARY PARTITION USING SETUP CD ( NOT USING ANY PE) >> >> WILL CREATING A PRIMARY PARTITION USING SOME PE WILL HELP ME TO INSTALL >> XP ON e: PARTITION WITH SYSTEM AND BOOT VOL AS SAME > > My understanding is that there is one physical SATA hard drive with > Drive C in the primary partition and Drive D as an extended partition. > Regardless of where Windows XP is going to be installed, it will need > the boot sector of Drive C. By definition, then, Drive C is the "boot" > partition because that is where the boot tracks, boot manager, etc., > are located. Wherever the OS proper resides, be it Drive C, D or E, > then that becomes the "system" partition. (I think these are the proper > definitions.) > > But getting specifically to your problem, the SATA drive is no longer > dependable. It should be replaced. Period. It does not matter whether > or not the physical hard drive has just one partition or is divided up > into partitions with logical drives. There are no dividends in doing > what you are attempting. I agree. This is perhaps an equivalent to "investing" in painting a car with a very rusty chassis and damaged running gear. And where I am, 500 gig SATA drives are around $100, so it's not a huge expense to fix this properly. -pk
Guest Andy Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 Re: install Xp on partion 2 when Partion 1 is damaged On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:30:01 -0700, adi <adi@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >My problem is like this, i have Xp pro installed on a SATA drive which is >having 2 partitions as C: and D:, size of disk is 80 GB > >Xp is installed on C:( Both system and Boot partition are same) > >Recently I started having a lot of chkdsk error while satrting the machine >and while using it also, It appeared that volume has got corrupted or >developed surface defects. > >I reinstalled the Xp on Same partition by deleting the partion C:\ but >problem reappeaed again. > >So I decided to install xp on partion 2 (i.e D:\) on my system during the >installation using OS Cd > >I observed that althoug h i had selected partition 2 during installation >,but xp's setup program first start formatting drive C:\ and since unable to >format it (Due to surface defects dispalyas a message) installation could not >be continued. > >To resolve this problem,During installation when setup asks you to choose >and create partion i deleted the First partition, and then tried the >installation, i met with the same error Partition are not iwhich xp can >understand and again prompted to create partition 1 and then format it. No >luck > >Thinking that (and guessing too) whole of my Partion1 will not be damaged so >in the next setup I created a 5 GB, 40Gb,30GB partitions and selected >Partitions 3 (i.e 30 GB) during installation, again the xp setup program >first went to format 5 GB partition , but this time this portion of disk was >healthy so it was formatted sucessfully , > >After formatting 5GB partition setup went on to format my 30 GB partion and >xp was finally installed, and I thiught that I had made good use of disk space > >The real problem started here when i went in disk management i found C:(5 >GB) was listed as system partition and E:(30 Gb) as boot partition. > >since i dont want to run system on failing disk partion i thought to make >E:\930 Gb) as system partition > >i used the diskpart to make it active and made the C:(5GB) partition as >inactive and copied the boot.ini and ntdetect and ntldr to E: partion and >tried to boot >the machine surprisingly my machine didnot started. Did you set the motherboard BIOS to boot from the 1TB drive? > >thinking that boot record are not written properly i used recovery console >to run fixboot E:\ > >No result, > >when i tried to run fixmbr I meeted a warning MBR on your disk is not >standard writing a new MBR will make your partitions inacessible( why and how >the nonstandard MBR came into the picture, from where this nonstandard MBR >came ?) > >i also tried to run bootcfg /rebuild no sucess, > >i again reinstalled xp using 5Gb,40 Gb, 30 Gb trick ( No Luck) > >My qustion is if you have a say 80, or 160 Gb HDD and for some reason your >HD is damaged (primary partion) then there is no use of purchasing big size >disks >as setup creates one primary partition other as extended and logical partions > >CAN SOMBODY TELL ME HOW TO MAKE MY E:\ PARTION AS SYSTEM PARTITION WITHOUT >REINSTALLING WINDOWS AGAIN, > >Is it happening because of extended partion and logical partitions created >by setup > >HOW TO CREATE PRIMARY PARTITION USING SETUP CD ( NOT USING ANY PE) > >WILL CREATING A PRIMARY PARTITION USING SOME PE WILL HELP ME TO INSTALL XP >ON e: PARTITION WITH SYSTEM AND BOOT VOL AS SAME
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