How to make bootable flash memory USB in Win98?

> http://www.bootdisk.com/pendrive.htm

"Tony Phan" <TonyPhan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Hi, now we are still using the Windows 98 bootable to flash BIOS system.

> It

> is very usefully to boot by USB flash memory but I don't know how, please

> help.

>

> Thanks.

July 14, 2008

Re: How to make bootable flash memory USB in Win98?

Hi Gary,

Is the procedure you pointed out going to allow him to flash a BIOS? If so,

I stand corrected on the info in my post to Tony.

--

Regards

Ron Badour

MS MVP

Windows Desktop Experience

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

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>I would consider this page a good source on the topic.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.bootdisk.com/pendrive.htm

>

> "Tony Phan" <TonyPhan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:ABADE4E4-27C8-46EE-911B-805348ABD66A@microsoft.com...

>> Hi, now we are still using the Windows 98 bootable to flash BIOS system.

>> It

>> is very usefully to boot by USB flash memory but I don't know how, please

>> help.

>>

>> Thanks.

>

July 15, 2008

Re: How to make bootable flash memory USB in Win98?

I'd suggest if there is any doubt or confusion for the OP, I'd stick with

bootable floppy disc method. (It's likely simpler and more fundamental).

Ron Badour wrote:

> Hi Gary,

>

> Is the procedure you pointed out going to allow him to flash a BIOS? If

> so,

> I stand corrected on the info in my post to Tony.

>

> --

> Regards

>

> Ron Badour

> MS MVP

> Windows Desktop Experience

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:e8lDaWg5IHA.2240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> I would consider this page a good source on the topic.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>

>> "Tony Phan" <TonyPhan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:ABADE4E4-27C8-46EE-911B-805348ABD66A@microsoft.com...

>>> Hi, now we are still using the Windows 98 bootable to flash BIOS system.

>>> It

>>> is very usefully to boot by USB flash memory but I don't know how,

>>> please

>>> help.

>>>

>>> Thanks.

July 15, 2008

Re: How to make bootable flash memory USB in Win98?

My primary intention was to show Tony the potential difficulties even

booting to a flash drive. I don't think his machines qualify. But if you can

boot to a flash drive using whatever OS the BIOS flash requires, then I

don't see why you can't flash the BIOS using one. What's the difference how

the OS and BIOS ROM & Utility get loaded into memory before going to work?

Anyway, since I believe my machine qualifies under the list of requirements

mentioned on the page, I'll see if it can be done.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.bootdisk.com/pendrive.htm

"Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message

news:eAFz5rg5IHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Hi Gary,

>

> Is the procedure you pointed out going to allow him to flash a BIOS? If

> so, I stand corrected on the info in my post to Tony.

>

> --

> Regards

>

> Ron Badour

> MS MVP

> Windows Desktop Experience

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:e8lDaWg5IHA.2240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>I would consider this page a good source on the topic.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>

>> "Tony Phan" <TonyPhan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:ABADE4E4-27C8-46EE-911B-805348ABD66A@microsoft.com...

>>> Hi, now we are still using the Windows 98 bootable to flash BIOS system.

>>> It

>>> is very usefully to boot by USB flash memory but I don't know how,

>>> please

>>> help.

>>>

>>> Thanks.

>>

>

July 15, 2008

Re: How to make bootable flash memory USB in Win98?

I was wrong. My fancy, one-year-old Asus P5B Deluxe does not support booting

to a USB stick.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:O4X82fk5IHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> My primary intention was to show Tony the potential difficulties even

> booting to a flash drive. I don't think his machines qualify. But if you

> can boot to a flash drive using whatever OS the BIOS flash requires, then

> I don't see why you can't flash the BIOS using one. What's the difference

> how the OS and BIOS ROM & Utility get loaded into memory before going to

> work?

>

> Anyway, since I believe my machine qualifies under the list of

> requirements mentioned on the page, I'll see if it can be done.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.bootdisk.com/pendrive.htm

>

> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message

> news:eAFz5rg5IHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Hi Gary,

>>

>> Is the procedure you pointed out going to allow him to flash a BIOS? If

>> so, I stand corrected on the info in my post to Tony.

>>

>> --

>> Regards

>>

>> Ron Badour

>> MS MVP

>> Windows Desktop Experience

>>

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:e8lDaWg5IHA.2240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>I would consider this page a good source on the topic.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "Tony Phan" <TonyPhan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:ABADE4E4-27C8-46EE-911B-805348ABD66A@microsoft.com...

>>>> Hi, now we are still using the Windows 98 bootable to flash BIOS

>>>> system. It

>>>> is very usefully to boot by USB flash memory but I don't know how,

>>>> please

>>>> help.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks.

>>>

>>

>

July 15, 2008

Re: How to make bootable flash memory USB in Win98?

Wrong again. This board *does* boot to USB flash drive. Thing is, this board

only puts one HD in the list of bootable devices (the others being my floppy

and DVD drives.) then there's another section where you choose the order of

the HDs for purposes of enumeration, the first one being the one that shows

in the boot list. When you have a USB flash drive attached, it gets

enumerated as one an HD. You then have to make it the bootable HD (first in

the list of HDs.)

I had previously used the first HP tool mentioned in the bootdisk.com

article to make the drive a DOS boot disk, added the DOS BIOS flash tool

from Asus (AFU236U.EXE) and the update ROM file, restarted, it booted to the

flash drive, I used AFU236U to backup the old ROM, then install the new one.

Of course, then it was necessary to check settings afterwards.

In short, booting from a flash drive for the purposes of flashing the BIOS

is not only possible, it's rather easy, depending on what has to go onto the

flash drive. (If the OS used is not DOS, then I'm not sure what other tools

are available to set up the flash drive properly. In my case, it also

require a bit of fumbling around in the BIOS to make the flash drive

bootable if it' snot already set up that way.

Since I have a floppy drive, and since Asus actually has BIOS flash

utilities of all sorts, including ones that run from Windows and one that's

built right into the BIOS, using the flash drive is a relatively poor choice

for me, but for systems that have no floppy drive and can boot to a flash

drive, I see no problems

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:O8BjNFl5IHA.1592@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>I was wrong. My fancy, one-year-old Asus P5B Deluxe does not support

>booting to a USB stick.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:O4X82fk5IHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> My primary intention was to show Tony the potential difficulties even

>> booting to a flash drive. I don't think his machines qualify. But if you

>> can boot to a flash drive using whatever OS the BIOS flash requires, then

>> I don't see why you can't flash the BIOS using one. What's the difference

>> how the OS and BIOS ROM & Utility get loaded into memory before going to

>> work?

>>

>> Anyway, since I believe my machine qualifies under the list of

>> requirements mentioned on the page, I'll see if it can be done.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>

>> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message

>> news:eAFz5rg5IHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> Hi Gary,

>>>

>>> Is the procedure you pointed out going to allow him to flash a BIOS? If

>>> so, I stand corrected on the info in my post to Tony.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Regards

>>>

>>> Ron Badour

>>> MS MVP

>>> Windows Desktop Experience

>>>

>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>> news:e8lDaWg5IHA.2240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>I would consider this page a good source on the topic.

>>>> http://www.bootdisk.com/pendrive.htm

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>>

>>>> "Tony Phan" <TonyPhan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:ABADE4E4-27C8-46EE-911B-805348ABD66A@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Hi, now we are still using the Windows 98 bootable to flash BIOS

>>>>> system. It

>>>>> is very usefully to boot by USB flash memory but I don't know how,

>>>>> please

>>>>> help.

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks.

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

July 15, 2008

Re: How to make bootable flash memory USB in Win98?

That second tool from HP will image any drive to a flash drive. I just made

a usable BING installation stick imaged from a floppy. Pretty cool! Only

thing is when you use the "image from floppy" method, it makes it look JUST

like a floppy, including the 1.38 MB capacity.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:uGoUs9l5IHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Wrong again. This board *does* boot to USB flash drive. Thing is, this

> board only puts one HD in the list of bootable devices (the others being

> my floppy and DVD drives.) then there's another section where you choose

> the order of the HDs for purposes of enumeration, the first one being the

> one that shows in the boot list. When you have a USB flash drive attached,

> it gets enumerated as one an HD. You then have to make it the bootable HD

> (first in the list of HDs.)

>

> I had previously used the first HP tool mentioned in the bootdisk.com

> article to make the drive a DOS boot disk, added the DOS BIOS flash tool

> from Asus (AFU236U.EXE) and the update ROM file, restarted, it booted to

> the flash drive, I used AFU236U to backup the old ROM, then install the

> new one. Of course, then it was necessary to check settings afterwards.

>

> In short, booting from a flash drive for the purposes of flashing the BIOS

> is not only possible, it's rather easy, depending on what has to go onto

> the flash drive. (If the OS used is not DOS, then I'm not sure what other

> tools are available to set up the flash drive properly. In my case, it

> also require a bit of fumbling around in the BIOS to make the flash drive

> bootable if it' snot already set up that way.

>

> Since I have a floppy drive, and since Asus actually has BIOS flash

> utilities of all sorts, including ones that run from Windows and one

> that's built right into the BIOS, using the flash drive is a relatively

> poor choice for me, but for systems that have no floppy drive and can boot

> to a flash drive, I see no problems

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:O8BjNFl5IHA.1592@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>I was wrong. My fancy, one-year-old Asus P5B Deluxe does not support

>>booting to a USB stick.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:O4X82fk5IHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> My primary intention was to show Tony the potential difficulties even

>>> booting to a flash drive. I don't think his machines qualify. But if you

>>> can boot to a flash drive using whatever OS the BIOS flash requires,

>>> then I don't see why you can't flash the BIOS using one. What's the

>>> difference how the OS and BIOS ROM & Utility get loaded into memory

>>> before going to work?

>>>

>>> Anyway, since I believe my machine qualifies under the list of

>>> requirements mentioned on the page, I'll see if it can be done.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message

>>> news:eAFz5rg5IHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> Hi Gary,

>>>>

>>>> Is the procedure you pointed out going to allow him to flash a BIOS?

>>>> If so, I stand corrected on the info in my post to Tony.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Regards

>>>>

>>>> Ron Badour

>>>> MS MVP

>>>> Windows Desktop Experience

>>>>

>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>> news:e8lDaWg5IHA.2240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>I would consider this page a good source on the topic.

>>>>> http://www.bootdisk.com/pendrive.htm

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>>>

>>>>> "Tony Phan" <TonyPhan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:ABADE4E4-27C8-46EE-911B-805348ABD66A@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> Hi, now we are still using the Windows 98 bootable to flash BIOS

>>>>>> system. It

>>>>>> is very usefully to boot by USB flash memory but I don't know how,

>>>>>> please

>>>>>> help.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

July 15, 2008

Re: How to make bootable flash memory USB in Win98?

Correction: The HP Drive Key Boot Utility will only image drive A to the

flash drive, limiting the drive to whatever size the floppy disk is.

Otherwise it will create a DOS-based bootable disk that allows the full size

of the stick to be used for other purposes (DOS utilities, data for

transfer, whatever.) The only other function it has is to create an HP

firmware upgrade disk.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:uUIeaJn5IHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> That second tool from HP will image any drive to a flash drive. I just

> made a usable BING installation stick imaged from a floppy. Pretty cool!

> Only thing is when you use the "image from floppy" method, it makes it

> look JUST like a floppy, including the 1.38 MB capacity.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:uGoUs9l5IHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Wrong again. This board *does* boot to USB flash drive. Thing is, this

>> board only puts one HD in the list of bootable devices (the others being

>> my floppy and DVD drives.) then there's another section where you choose

>> the order of the HDs for purposes of enumeration, the first one being the

>> one that shows in the boot list. When you have a USB flash drive

>> attached, it gets enumerated as one an HD. You then have to make it the

>> bootable HD (first in the list of HDs.)

>>

>> I had previously used the first HP tool mentioned in the bootdisk.com

>> article to make the drive a DOS boot disk, added the DOS BIOS flash tool

>> from Asus (AFU236U.EXE) and the update ROM file, restarted, it booted to

>> the flash drive, I used AFU236U to backup the old ROM, then install the

>> new one. Of course, then it was necessary to check settings afterwards.

>>

>> In short, booting from a flash drive for the purposes of flashing the

>> BIOS is not only possible, it's rather easy, depending on what has to go

>> onto the flash drive. (If the OS used is not DOS, then I'm not sure what

>> other tools are available to set up the flash drive properly. In my case,

>> it also require a bit of fumbling around in the BIOS to make the flash

>> drive bootable if it' snot already set up that way.

>>

>> Since I have a floppy drive, and since Asus actually has BIOS flash

>> utilities of all sorts, including ones that run from Windows and one

>> that's built right into the BIOS, using the flash drive is a relatively

>> poor choice for me, but for systems that have no floppy drive and can

>> boot to a flash drive, I see no problems

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User