Re: Network printer won't print

July 16, 2008

Re: Network printer won't print

If you could give a short explanation of what you tried/attempted as the

fixes [via the VISTA group or otherwise] it might help us determine

potential fixes.

NOTE though, that VISTA was essentially designed NOT to network with 9X. So

something's work like a charm, and others just seem to fail no matter what

you do. Key though, is the SHARING, USER, and PASSWORD settings on the

computers in addition to the normal firewall and other settings.

It may be possible to obtain a generic printer port to USB adapter to

temporarily or permanently connect the printer to the VISTA machine. Once

done the printer could then be returned [if you wanted] back to the 9X

system, and the port then changed on the VISTA machine to point to the 9X

printer. Epson offered a USB driver and adapter.

Another option is to use an actual print server.

An obvious question would be:

Did you attempt to install the printer driver into VISTA?

*IF* VISTA can see the shared printer when attached to the 9X box, then you

may be able to force an installation by using the XP compatible driver on

the installation disk [or via the Epson download link]. Attempting to use

the included VISTA default drivers will likely not work as they require

[generally] an attached device and do not contain all the "old" printer

aspects.. NOTE: VISTA requires some additional setup to network with 9X, so

make sure you understand and follow the procedures. also make sure you have

the firewall{s} setup properly for the local network

*Epson has its own spooler and de-spooler*, which is used during print

queues [local and network]. In the setup/settings for the printer, you can

define which spooler it uses, its own or Windows/DOS, and the directory

which it monitors/uses. *IF* you play around with the port and spooler

settings you MAY be able to get it to print by setting the printer to

query/monitor the VISTA spooler and/or port OR reversed in VISTA. During the

installation process [in 9X and XP, so likely VISTA as well] you should have

had the option to pre-setup the network printer.

The Epson also has a Status Monitor. The Network Printers list displays

information on printers that are connected to a network. This list is only

available when the Network Printer Monitoring option is set to Monitor in

the EPSON Status Monitor 2 Setup program. Run Setup again to change this

setting.

See here for some additional help and information on the 660:

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&infoType=Doc&oid=14423&prodoid=8301&category=Products

For VISTA:

http://www.vistax64.com/archive/f-27-p-17.html - check some of the linked

discussions on spoolers and printers.

http://www.vistax64.com/vista-networking-sharing/82052-networking-vista-98-a.html

General:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Vista+networked+to+98&btnG=Search

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"885WHITE" <885WHITE@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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| I have a new Dell laptop with Vista on it I can access the files on my old

| Windows SE Destop through my home network via a wireless connection

through a

| wired Netgear Router. My old laptop (which died) used Win XP and I could

use

| the Epson printer (connected to Win98SE machine via LPT)to print. The

Vista

| system see's the Epson Printer when I want to add it as a network printer

but

| it won't let me add it as it keeps showing an error code: Cannot connect

to

| the printer: error 0x00000866. The files and printer are shared through

| the network . The printer is not USB as it is an Epson Color 660 and uses

| LPT.

| I have tried the Epson site but they refer to physically attaching my LPT

| printer to the laptop so that Vista will automatically install the

drivers.

| Since there are no LPT ports on the laptop that is not possible.

| I tried the : Vista forum but eventually was referred here as there was

not

| a solution through Vista.

| Does anyone have any advice short of buying a new desktop and printer?

|

| --

| 885WHITE

July 16, 2008

Re: Network printer won't print

Re: Network printer won't print

This link so take you to the question I asked and the subsequent answers:

http://forums.microsoft.com/technet/ShowPost.aspx?siteid=17&postid=3610271

Would you tell me where on it's site that Epson offered a USB driver and

adapter?

Would that attach to the printer itself and then attach to a usb port. If it

did that might solve the whole problem.

Thank you

>

--

885WHITE

"MEB" wrote:

>

> If you could give a short explanation of what you tried/attempted as the

> fixes [via the VISTA group or otherwise] it might help us determine

> potential fixes.

> NOTE though, that VISTA was essentially designed NOT to network with 9X. So

> something's work like a charm, and others just seem to fail no matter what

> you do. Key though, is the SHARING, USER, and PASSWORD settings on the

> computers in addition to the normal firewall and other settings.

>

> It may be possible to obtain a generic printer port to USB adapter to

> temporarily or permanently connect the printer to the VISTA machine. Once

> done the printer could then be returned [if you wanted] back to the 9X

> system, and the port then changed on the VISTA machine to point to the 9X

> printer. Epson offered a USB driver and adapter.

>

> Another option is to use an actual print server.

>

> An obvious question would be:

> Did you attempt to install the printer driver into VISTA?

>

> *IF* VISTA can see the shared printer when attached to the 9X box, then you

> may be able to force an installation by using the XP compatible driver on

> the installation disk [or via the Epson download link]. Attempting to use

> the included VISTA default drivers will likely not work as they require

> [generally] an attached device and do not contain all the "old" printer

> aspects.. NOTE: VISTA requires some additional setup to network with 9X, so

> make sure you understand and follow the procedures. also make sure you have

> the firewall{s} setup properly for the local network

>

> *Epson has its own spooler and de-spooler*, which is used during print

> queues [local and network]. In the setup/settings for the printer, you can

> define which spooler it uses, its own or Windows/DOS, and the directory

> which it monitors/uses. *IF* you play around with the port and spooler

> settings you MAY be able to get it to print by setting the printer to

> query/monitor the VISTA spooler and/or port OR reversed in VISTA. During the

> installation process [in 9X and XP, so likely VISTA as well] you should have

> had the option to pre-setup the network printer.

> The Epson also has a Status Monitor. The Network Printers list displays

> information on printers that are connected to a network. This list is only

> available when the Network Printer Monitoring option is set to Monitor in

> the EPSON Status Monitor 2 Setup program. Run Setup again to change this

> setting.

>

> See here for some additional help and information on the 660:

> http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&infoType=Doc&oid=14423&prodoid=8301&category=Products

>

> For VISTA:

> http://www.vistax64.com/archive/f-27-p-17.html - check some of the linked

> discussions on spoolers and printers.

> http://www.vistax64.com/vista-networking-sharing/82052-networking-vista-98-a.html

>

> General:

> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Vista+networked+to+98&btnG=Search

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

> "885WHITE" <885WHITE@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:201765F9-A591-4135-9E98-C22840883EA6@microsoft.com...

> | I have a new Dell laptop with Vista on it I can access the files on my old

> | Windows SE Destop through my home network via a wireless connection

> through a

> | wired Netgear Router. My old laptop (which died) used Win XP and I could

> use

> | the Epson printer (connected to Win98SE machine via LPT)to print. The

> Vista

> | system see's the Epson Printer when I want to add it as a network printer

> but

> | it won't let me add it as it keeps showing an error code: Cannot connect

> to

> | the printer: error 0x00000866. The files and printer are shared through

> | the network . The printer is not USB as it is an Epson Color 660 and uses

> | LPT.

> | I have tried the Epson site but they refer to physically attaching my LPT

> | printer to the laptop so that Vista will automatically install the

> drivers.

> | Since there are no LPT ports on the laptop that is not possible.

> | I tried the : Vista forum but eventually was referred here as there was

> not

> | a solution through Vista.

> | Does anyone have any advice short of buying a new desktop and printer?

> |

> | --

> | 885WHITE

>

July 16, 2008

Re: Network printer won't print

Re: Network printer won't print

There isn't one. Because the printer is not a USB printer. That simple.

You have already started a conversation in the Win98.Networking group. Let's

just continue it there, OK?

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

"885WHITE" <885WHITE@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:F624768E-3DB1-42CE-88BC-76D9D399E7ED@microsoft.com...

> This link so take you to the question I asked and the subsequent answers:

> http://forums.microsoft.com/technet/ShowPost.aspx?siteid=17&postid=3610271

>

> Would you tell me where on it's site that Epson offered a USB driver and

> adapter?

>

> Would that attach to the printer itself and then attach to a usb port. If

> it

> did that might solve the whole problem.

>

> Thank you

>>

>

> --

> 885WHITE

>

> "MEB" wrote:

>

>>

>> If you could give a short explanation of what you tried/attempted as the

>> fixes [via the VISTA group or otherwise] it might help us determine

>> potential fixes.

>> NOTE though, that VISTA was essentially designed NOT to network with 9X.

>> So

>> something's work like a charm, and others just seem to fail no matter

>> what

>> you do. Key though, is the SHARING, USER, and PASSWORD settings on the

>> computers in addition to the normal firewall and other settings.

>>

>> It may be possible to obtain a generic printer port to USB adapter to

>> temporarily or permanently connect the printer to the VISTA machine. Once

>> done the printer could then be returned [if you wanted] back to the 9X

>> system, and the port then changed on the VISTA machine to point to the 9X

>> printer. Epson offered a USB driver and adapter.

>>

>> Another option is to use an actual print server.

>>

>> An obvious question would be:

>> Did you attempt to install the printer driver into VISTA?

>>

>> *IF* VISTA can see the shared printer when attached to the 9X box, then

>> you

>> may be able to force an installation by using the XP compatible driver on

>> the installation disk [or via the Epson download link]. Attempting to use

>> the included VISTA default drivers will likely not work as they require

>> [generally] an attached device and do not contain all the "old" printer

>> aspects.. NOTE: VISTA requires some additional setup to network with 9X,

>> so

>> make sure you understand and follow the procedures. also make sure you

>> have

>> the firewall{s} setup properly for the local network

>>

>> *Epson has its own spooler and de-spooler*, which is used during print

>> queues [local and network]. In the setup/settings for the printer, you

>> can

>> define which spooler it uses, its own or Windows/DOS, and the directory

>> which it monitors/uses. *IF* you play around with the port and spooler

>> settings you MAY be able to get it to print by setting the printer to

>> query/monitor the VISTA spooler and/or port OR reversed in VISTA. During

>> the

>> installation process [in 9X and XP, so likely VISTA as well] you should

>> have

>> had the option to pre-setup the network printer.

>> The Epson also has a Status Monitor. The Network Printers list displays

>> information on printers that are connected to a network. This list is

>> only

>> available when the Network Printer Monitoring option is set to Monitor in

>> the EPSON Status Monitor 2 Setup program. Run Setup again to change this

>> setting.

>>

>> See here for some additional help and information on the 660:

>> http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&infoType=Doc&oid=14423&prodoid=8301&category=Products

>>

>> For VISTA:

>> http://www.vistax64.com/archive/f-27-p-17.html - check some of the linked

>> discussions on spoolers and printers.

>> http://www.vistax64.com/vista-networking-sharing/82052-networking-vista-98-a.html

>>

>> General:

>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Vista+networked+to+98&btnG=Search

>>

>> --

>> MEB

>> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

>> --

>> _________

>>

>> "885WHITE" <885WHITE@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:201765F9-A591-4135-9E98-C22840883EA6@microsoft.com...

>> | I have a new Dell laptop with Vista on it I can access the files on my

>> old

>> | Windows SE Destop through my home network via a wireless connection

>> through a

>> | wired Netgear Router. My old laptop (which died) used Win XP and I

>> could

>> use

>> | the Epson printer (connected to Win98SE machine via LPT)to print. The

>> Vista

>> | system see's the Epson Printer when I want to add it as a network

>> printer

>> but

>> | it won't let me add it as it keeps showing an error code: Cannot

>> connect

>> to

>> | the printer: error 0x00000866. The files and printer are shared

>> through

>> | the network . The printer is not USB as it is an Epson Color 660 and

>> uses

>> | LPT.

>> | I have tried the Epson site but they refer to physically attaching my

>> LPT

>> | printer to the laptop so that Vista will automatically install the

>> drivers.

>> | Since there are no LPT ports on the laptop that is not possible.

>> | I tried the : Vista forum but eventually was referred here as there was

>> not

>> | a solution through Vista.

>> | Does anyone have any advice short of buying a new desktop and printer?

>> |

>> | --

>> | 885WHITE

>>

July 17, 2008

Re: Network printer won't print

Re: Network printer won't print

I provided the link, look at the bottom of the page... you would have found

the adapter previously as an "extra" which you could order.

http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/sc440_/sc440_uu2.pdf - I have a 440 which

you could also purchase the adapter for.

User Manual - USB/Parallel Kit

PDF file

This document contains specific information regarding the use of EPSON's

optional USB interface for use with an Apple iMac or Microsoft Windows 98

computer.

You can find third party adapters:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=printer+port+to+USB+adapter&btnG=Google+Search

NOTE: the printer software for the parallel printer will NOT work, see the

site for the USB driver.

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

"885WHITE" <885WHITE@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:F624768E-3DB1-42CE-88BC-76D9D399E7ED@microsoft.com...

| This link so take you to the question I asked and the subsequent answers:

| http://forums.microsoft.com/technet/ShowPost.aspx?siteid=17&postid=3610271

|

| Would you tell me where on it's site that Epson offered a USB driver and

| adapter?

|

| Would that attach to the printer itself and then attach to a usb port. If

it

| did that might solve the whole problem.

|

| Thank you

| >

|

| --

| 885WHITE

|

| "MEB" wrote:

|

| >

| > If you could give a short explanation of what you tried/attempted as

the

| > fixes [via the VISTA group or otherwise] it might help us determine

| > potential fixes.

| > NOTE though, that VISTA was essentially designed NOT to network with 9X.

So

| > something's work like a charm, and others just seem to fail no matter

what

| > you do. Key though, is the SHARING, USER, and PASSWORD settings on the

| > computers in addition to the normal firewall and other settings.

| >

| > It may be possible to obtain a generic printer port to USB adapter to

| > temporarily or permanently connect the printer to the VISTA machine.

Once

| > done the printer could then be returned [if you wanted] back to the 9X

| > system, and the port then changed on the VISTA machine to point to the

9X

| > printer. Epson offered a USB driver and adapter.

| >

| > Another option is to use an actual print server.

| >

| > An obvious question would be:

| > Did you attempt to install the printer driver into VISTA?

| >

| > *IF* VISTA can see the shared printer when attached to the 9X box, then

you

| > may be able to force an installation by using the XP compatible driver

on

| > the installation disk [or via the Epson download link]. Attempting to

use

| > the included VISTA default drivers will likely not work as they require

| > [generally] an attached device and do not contain all the "old" printer

| > aspects.. NOTE: VISTA requires some additional setup to network with 9X,

so

| > make sure you understand and follow the procedures. also make sure you

have

| > the firewall{s} setup properly for the local network

| >

| > *Epson has its own spooler and de-spooler*, which is used during print

| > queues [local and network]. In the setup/settings for the printer, you

can

| > define which spooler it uses, its own or Windows/DOS, and the directory

| > which it monitors/uses. *IF* you play around with the port and spooler

| > settings you MAY be able to get it to print by setting the printer to

| > query/monitor the VISTA spooler and/or port OR reversed in VISTA. During

the

| > installation process [in 9X and XP, so likely VISTA as well] you should

have

| > had the option to pre-setup the network printer.

| > The Epson also has a Status Monitor. The Network Printers list displays

| > information on printers that are connected to a network. This list is

only

| > available when the Network Printer Monitoring option is set to Monitor

in

| > the EPSON Status Monitor 2 Setup program. Run Setup again to change this

| > setting.

| >

| > See here for some additional help and information on the 660:

| >

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&infoType=Doc&oid=14423&prodoid=8301&category=Products

| >

| > For VISTA:

| > http://www.vistax64.com/archive/f-27-p-17.html - check some of the

linked

| > discussions on spoolers and printers.

| >

http://www.vistax64.com/vista-networking-sharing/82052-networking-vista-98-a.html

| >

| > General:

| > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Vista+networked+to+98&btnG=Search

| >

| > --

| > MEB

| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > --

| > _________

| >

| > "885WHITE" <885WHITE@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| > news:201765F9-A591-4135-9E98-C22840883EA6@microsoft.com...

| > | I have a new Dell laptop with Vista on it I can access the files on my

old

| > | Windows SE Destop through my home network via a wireless connection

| > through a

| > | wired Netgear Router. My old laptop (which died) used Win XP and I

could

| > use

| > | the Epson printer (connected to Win98SE machine via LPT)to print. The

| > Vista

| > | system see's the Epson Printer when I want to add it as a network

printer

| > but

| > | it won't let me add it as it keeps showing an error code: Cannot

connect

| > to

| > | the printer: error 0x00000866. The files and printer are shared

through

| > | the network . The printer is not USB as it is an Epson Color 660 and

uses

| > | LPT.

| > | I have tried the Epson site but they refer to physically attaching my

LPT

| > | printer to the laptop so that Vista will automatically install the

| > drivers.

| > | Since there are no LPT ports on the laptop that is not possible.

| > | I tried the : Vista forum but eventually was referred here as there

was

| > not

| > | a solution through Vista.

| > | Does anyone have any advice short of buying a new desktop and printer?

| > |

| > | --

| > | 885WHITE

| >

July 17, 2008

Re: Network printer won't print

Re: Network printer won't print

Not sure, but the USB may also be on the original CDROM. Might have to

check the folders...

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"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:%23fvnMo75IHA.2240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| I provided the link, look at the bottom of the page... you would have

found

| the adapter previously as an "extra" which you could order.

| http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/sc440_/sc440_uu2.pdf - I have a 440

which

| you could also purchase the adapter for.

| User Manual - USB/Parallel Kit

| PDF file

| This document contains specific information regarding the use of EPSON's

| optional USB interface for use with an Apple iMac or Microsoft Windows 98

| computer.

|

| You can find third party adapters:

|

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=printer+port+to+USB+adapter&btnG=Google+Search

|

| NOTE: the printer software for the parallel printer will NOT work, see the

| site for the USB driver.

|

| --

| MEB

| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| --

| _________

|

| "885WHITE" <885WHITE@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| news:F624768E-3DB1-42CE-88BC-76D9D399E7ED@microsoft.com...

| | This link so take you to the question I asked and the subsequent

answers:

| |

http://forums.microsoft.com/technet/ShowPost.aspx?siteid=17&postid=3610271

| |

| | Would you tell me where on it's site that Epson offered a USB driver and

| | adapter?

| |

| | Would that attach to the printer itself and then attach to a usb port.

If

| it

| | did that might solve the whole problem.

| |

| | Thank you

| | >

| |

| | --

| | 885WHITE

| |

| | "MEB" wrote:

| |

| | >

| | > If you could give a short explanation of what you tried/attempted as

| the

| | > fixes [via the VISTA group or otherwise] it might help us determine

| | > potential fixes.

| | > NOTE though, that VISTA was essentially designed NOT to network with

9X.

| So

| | > something's work like a charm, and others just seem to fail no matter

| what

| | > you do. Key though, is the SHARING, USER, and PASSWORD settings on the

| | > computers in addition to the normal firewall and other settings.

| | >

| | > It may be possible to obtain a generic printer port to USB adapter to

| | > temporarily or permanently connect the printer to the VISTA machine.

| Once

| | > done the printer could then be returned [if you wanted] back to the 9X

| | > system, and the port then changed on the VISTA machine to point to the

| 9X

| | > printer. Epson offered a USB driver and adapter.

| | >

| | > Another option is to use an actual print server.

| | >

| | > An obvious question would be:

| | > Did you attempt to install the printer driver into VISTA?

| | >

| | > *IF* VISTA can see the shared printer when attached to the 9X box,

then

| you

| | > may be able to force an installation by using the XP compatible driver

| on

| | > the installation disk [or via the Epson download link]. Attempting to

| use

| | > the included VISTA default drivers will likely not work as they

require

| | > [generally] an attached device and do not contain all the "old"

printer

| | > aspects.. NOTE: VISTA requires some additional setup to network with

9X,

| so

| | > make sure you understand and follow the procedures. also make sure you

| have

| | > the firewall{s} setup properly for the local network

| | >

| | > *Epson has its own spooler and de-spooler*, which is used during

print

| | > queues [local and network]. In the setup/settings for the printer, you

| can

| | > define which spooler it uses, its own or Windows/DOS, and the

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