Guest Guitar Dude Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 In the last couple of weeks, services on some of my Windows 2003 servers have been failing. If I change username\domain to username@domain, they start and stay running. Is anyone aware of articles discussing the difference between using username\domain and username@domain?
Guest Ace Fekay [MVP] Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 Re: username\domain vs username@domain In news:FBD0F946-1FCD-4E74-BCEF-C741299BDA91@microsoft.com, Guitar Dude <GuitarDude@discussions.microsoft.com> typed: > In the last couple of weeks, services on some of my Windows 2003 > servers have been failing. > If I change username\domain to username@domain, they start and stay > running. > > Is anyone aware of articles discussing the difference between using > username\domain and username@domain? Is it user@domain or user@domain.com or user@domain.net, etc? You posted a single label name, which is highly problematic with an AD domain and must be fixed or expect numerous other problems. As for the differences, the domain\username (you posted it backwards and may be the whole issue) is the legacy NetBIOS method, whereas the user@domain.com is what we call the UPN (Universal Principal Name), which is purely DNS based. An application must support this method (such as AD aware apps, and others), otherwise, you will have to revert to the legacy method. -- Regards, Ace This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and confers no rights. Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP Microsoft MVP - Directory Services Microsoft Certified Trainer For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers. Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations
Guest Guitar Dude Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 Re: username\domain vs username@domain So the UPN would be username@domain.local Thank you for correcting me. Yes, I am using domain\username Now that I understand this to be NetBIOS name, it seems there is some NetBIOS flakiness in my network. Do you know if NetBIOSname\username require a WINS server in the environment? "Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote: > In news:FBD0F946-1FCD-4E74-BCEF-C741299BDA91@microsoft.com, > Guitar Dude <GuitarDude@discussions.microsoft.com> typed: > > In the last couple of weeks, services on some of my Windows 2003 > > servers have been failing. > > If I change username\domain to username@domain, they start and stay > > running. > > > > Is anyone aware of articles discussing the difference between using > > username\domain and username@domain? > > Is it user@domain or user@domain.com or user@domain.net, etc? You posted a > single label name, which is highly problematic with an AD domain and must be > fixed or expect numerous other problems. > > As for the differences, the domain\username (you posted it backwards and may > be the whole issue) is the legacy NetBIOS method, whereas the > user@domain.com is what we call the UPN (Universal Principal Name), which is > purely DNS based. An application must support this method (such as AD aware > apps, and others), otherwise, you will have to revert to the legacy method. > > -- > Regards, > Ace > > This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and > confers no rights. > > Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, > MVP Microsoft MVP - Directory Services > Microsoft Certified Trainer > > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers. > > Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations > > >
Guest Ace Fekay [MVP] Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 Re: username\domain vs username@domain In news:9EFFB25E-DDBF-4DA3-A43A-91AC485B3E55@microsoft.com, Guitar Dude <GuitarDude@discussions.microsoft.com> typed: > So the UPN would be username@domain.local > > Thank you for correcting me. Yes, I am using domain\username > Now that I understand this to be NetBIOS name, it seems there is some > NetBIOS flakiness in my network. > > Do you know if NetBIOSname\username require a WINS server in the > environment? Depends on your infrastructure. In a multi-subnetted environment, yes. In a single subnet, no, not really. It will use broadcast. Can you define "flakiness?" Ace
Guest Guitar Dude Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 Re: username\domain vs username@domain Flakiness - Services, including SQL Server and Windows SharePoint Services Search, Timer, etc are not consistently starting when a server is rebooted. These services are set to log on as domain accounts. Sometimes they do start, but most of the time they do not. Services set to Log On As Local and Network Service start fine. When I manually try to start the service, I put in the same password as I did yesterday and the service starts. It is as if the server is not remembering service log on passwords. I was hoping that this behavior was constrained to NetBIOSname\username, but now I've demostrated that this is also happening to services with log on accounts set up as username@domain.local. One path I am lookin down is researching the order things start on the server. I'd like to find out if these services are trying to start before the server has established connectivity to a domain controller.
Guest Guitar Dude Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 Re: username\domain vs username@domain It looks like this is a Group Policy - Local Security Setting - Local Policy - User Rights Assignment - Log on as a service issue. I am going to add these accounts overnight and post my results!
Guest Ace Fekay [MVP] Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 Re: username\domain vs username@domain In news:0981E4F5-7371-40A8-8495-8A680E606FEE@microsoft.com, Guitar Dude <GuitarDude@discussions.microsoft.com> typed: > It looks like this is a Group Policy - Local Security Setting - Local > Policy - User Rights Assignment - Log on as a service issue. > > I am going to add these accounts overnight and post my results! Was something in the GPOs changed regarding this setting or any other setting? Restrict Anonymous changed? Is this a DC? Ace
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