Guest TDM Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 When I right mouse on the desktop and select "Properties", it takes over 3 minutes for the Display Properties to appear. It is not a right mouse context issue, as the same thing happens when I run "control desk.cpl" from a shell, and also when I execute "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL desk.cpl,,3" from a shell as well. Once the display properites appear, selecting another tab takes several minutes to switch as well. I am a bit stumped on this one. It would appear to be an issue witn rundll32.exe, but I have not found anything in google that is useful. Other than this one issue, the system appears to be running at expected performance and there are no viruses or spyware on the system. Anyone out there ever seen this before ? Thanks in advance ! TDM
Guest Thee Chicago Wolf Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 Re: Destop Properties very slow >When I right mouse on the desktop and select "Properties", >it takes over 3 minutes for the Display Properties to appear. >It is not a right mouse context issue, as the same thing happens >when I run "control desk.cpl" from a shell, and also when I >execute "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL desk.cpl,,3" >from a shell as well. Once the display properites appear, >selecting another tab takes several minutes to switch as >well. I am a bit stumped on this one. It would appear to >be an issue witn rundll32.exe, but I have not found >anything in google that is useful. Other than this one >issue, the system appears to be running at expected >performance and there are no viruses or spyware on >the system. Anyone out there ever seen this before ? I've not seen this mentioned elsewhere. How about some details on your system: RAM, Processor Speed, VGA & Driver version, SP2 or SP3? - Thee Chicago Wolf
Guest Unknown Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 Re: Destop Properties very slow What have you done so far? Memory size? Disk size? Programs running in the background? "TDM" <rpuffd@gmail.com> wrote in message news:%23gVITeE6IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > When I right mouse on the desktop and select "Properties", > it takes over 3 minutes for the Display Properties to appear. > It is not a right mouse context issue, as the same thing happens > when I run "control desk.cpl" from a shell, and also when I > execute "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL desk.cpl,,3" > from a shell as well. Once the display properites appear, > selecting another tab takes several minutes to switch as > well. I am a bit stumped on this one. It would appear to > be an issue witn rundll32.exe, but I have not found > anything in google that is useful. Other than this one > issue, the system appears to be running at expected > performance and there are no viruses or spyware on > the system. Anyone out there ever seen this before ? > > Thanks in advance ! > > > TDM >
Guest TDM Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 Re: Destop Properties very slow "Thee Chicago Wolf" <.@.> wrote in message news:le9v74pgk7vhmah8mga1ipmj7poj3cvtno@4ax.com... > > I've not seen this mentioned elsewhere. How about some details on your > system: RAM, Processor Speed, VGA & Driver version, SP2 or SP3? > > - Thee Chicago Wolf System is an HP 8510W Laptop, 4GB of ram(I know, XP/32bit will only see/use 3GB, I did not order the system), Windows XP-SP2, Nvidia Graphics with the latest drivers installed from the HP site, could not find the appropriate driver at Nvidia.com. The system is only a few weeks old and this behavior appeared to start when drivers were installed for a USB to Serial adapter. Did a system restore back to before the drivers were installed(after removing the driver), and that did not fix it. It is not my system, so I am going on someone elses word for most of the details on recent changes to the system. As a side note, I did a test of another Control Panel applet as such : "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL access.cpl,,3" and it came up instantly, but when I run the desktop applet as such : "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL desk.cpl,,3", it takes 3+ minutes for the applet to appear. One other odd thing, when booting, the user has a wallpaper image that shows up early in the boot, then disappears a short time later to just a blank blue background. It is like the Nvidia drivers/managment has taken over somehow. I could try un-installing the Nvidia drivers, but the user was not too happy about doing that. Thanks for the post. TDM
Guest Thee Chicago Wolf Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 Re: Destop Properties very slow >> I've not seen this mentioned elsewhere. How about some details on your >> system: RAM, Processor Speed, VGA & Driver version, SP2 or SP3? >> >> - Thee Chicago Wolf > >System is an HP 8510W Laptop, 4GB of ram(I know, XP/32bit >will only see/use 3GB, I did not order the system), Windows XP-SP2, >Nvidia Graphics with the latest drivers installed from the HP site, could >not find the appropriate driver at Nvidia.com. The system is only >a few weeks old and this behavior appeared to start when drivers >were installed for a USB to Serial adapter. Did a system restore >back to before the drivers were installed(after removing the driver), >and that did not fix it. It is not my system, so I am going on someone >elses word for most of the details on recent changes to the system. >As a side note, I did a test of another Control Panel applet as >such : "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL access.cpl,,3" >and it came up instantly, but when I run the desktop applet >as such : "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL desk.cpl,,3", >it takes 3+ minutes for the applet to appear. > >One other odd thing, when booting, the user has a wallpaper >image that shows up early in the boot, then disappears a short >time later to just a blank blue background. It is like the Nvidia >drivers/managment has taken over somehow. I could try >un-installing the Nvidia drivers, but the user was not too >happy about doing that. > >Thanks for the post. > >TDM > Well, if the user doesn't object, SP3 might remedy this issue. If it's a driver issue, updating to the current NVidia set from NVidia.com might remedy it. Of course, these HP laptops sometimes need "HP" specific drivers to the laptop and many times the manufacturers don't like to update their drivers ever. 1) Try the updated NVidia driver first for sure. 2) If there's still an issue, you might try updating the DirectX to the June Redistributable here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=822640ab-0983-4c41-9c70-632f6f42c557&displaylang=en Knocking out the video and image related issues first will help narrow down the issue. 3) If those two things fail, download and install the FULL SP3 update. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e76-401f-be08-1e1555d4f3d4&displaylang=en You *CAN* squeeze more than 3GB RAM out of a 4GB machine but sometimes it might only be a little bit more than 3GB (3.25GB). Try this: Start > Settings > Control Panel > System > Advanced tab > Startup & Recovery settings button > Edit button, add the following switch option to whatever's there: /3GB. It should then something look like: multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /3GB /noexecute=optin /fastdetect Check the memory before and after. 4) If this is an HP computer with and AMD processor, go grab the AMD pre-SP3 update: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/953356, install, reboot, and try the full SP3 update. Let me know how it goes. - Thee Chicago Wolf
Guest Thee Chicago Wolf Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 Re: Destop Properties very slow >System is an HP 8510W Laptop, 4GB of ram(I know, XP/32bit These Quadra drivers should work: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=3369263&prodNameId=3355681&swEnvOID=1093&swLang=8&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=ob-59656-1 March 2008 date, straight from HP. - Thee Chicago Wolf
Guest TDM Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 Re: Destop Properties very slow "Thee Chicago Wolf" <.@.> wrote in message news:7ldv749ioudhpuo0ss3me7kcjn28v3ri14@4ax.com... > >System is an HP 8510W Laptop, 4GB of ram(I know, XP/32bit > > These Quadra drivers should work: > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=3369263&prodNameId=3355681&swEnvOID=1093&swLang=8&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=ob-59656-1 > > March 2008 date, straight from HP. > > - Thee Chicago Wolf I have already done this, and yes, you are correct, as I stated before, I had to get the drivers from HP as Nvidia.com did not have any compatible drivers. I was thinking about SP3 as well, I will run it by the user and see where that goes and post an update when I have one. Generally, we are not supposed to install SP3 in our environment until tested by the IT gods, but I have installed it a number of time without issue, even via windows update ! Thanks for the post. TDM
Guest Thee Chicago Wolf Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 Re: Destop Properties very slow >I have already done this, and yes, you are correct, as I stated >before, I had to get the drivers from HP as Nvidia.com did >not have any compatible drivers. > >I was thinking about SP3 as well, I will run it by the user and >see where that goes and post an update when I have one. >Generally, we are not supposed to install SP3 in our environment >until tested by the IT gods, but I have installed it a number of time >without issue, even via windows update ! > >Thanks for the post. Since this is an Intel machine and only a few weeks old, perhaps install the Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility. SP2 is far too old to recognize the chipset and CPU without the Intel chipset drivers. You should see a lot better responsiveness afterwards. It might be your issue after all. http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=816&OSFullName=Windows*+XP+Professional&lang=eng&strOSs=44&submit=Go%21 - Thee Chicago Wolf
Guest The Real Truth MVP Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 Re: Destop Properties very slow Try using both my Explorer Shell Fix tool and my Desktop Reset Tool. Download them here http://pcbutts1.com/downloads/tools/tools.htm -- Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. "TDM" <rpuffd@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ukiXp3E6IHA.2544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > "Thee Chicago Wolf" <.@.> wrote in message > news:le9v74pgk7vhmah8mga1ipmj7poj3cvtno@4ax.com... > >> >> I've not seen this mentioned elsewhere. How about some details on your >> system: RAM, Processor Speed, VGA & Driver version, SP2 or SP3? >> >> - Thee Chicago Wolf > > System is an HP 8510W Laptop, 4GB of ram(I know, XP/32bit > will only see/use 3GB, I did not order the system), Windows XP-SP2, > Nvidia Graphics with the latest drivers installed from the HP site, could > not find the appropriate driver at Nvidia.com. The system is only > a few weeks old and this behavior appeared to start when drivers > were installed for a USB to Serial adapter. Did a system restore > back to before the drivers were installed(after removing the driver), > and that did not fix it. It is not my system, so I am going on someone > elses word for most of the details on recent changes to the system. > As a side note, I did a test of another Control Panel applet as > such : "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL access.cpl,,3" > and it came up instantly, but when I run the desktop applet > as such : "rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL desk.cpl,,3", > it takes 3+ minutes for the applet to appear. > > One other odd thing, when booting, the user has a wallpaper > image that shows up early in the boot, then disappears a short > time later to just a blank blue background. It is like the Nvidia > drivers/managment has taken over somehow. I could try > un-installing the Nvidia drivers, but the user was not too > happy about doing that. > > Thanks for the post. > > TDM >
Guest Leythos Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 Re: Destop Properties very slow In article <%5Qfk.2253$zv7.1530@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com>, toidi@tpap.com says... > Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been > obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. > Do you really want to trust someone that was banned from posting directly to Microsoft Usenet servers, someone that has posted links to pornographic materials on HIS WEBSITE, who's website is in the MVP HOST Block list, and who provides a tool for your use that will block access to reputable anti-malware sites without telling you he's doing it? And do you really want to trust someone that has had to change their posting identity after being busted by MS as a fake MVP? -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
Guest TDM Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 Re: Destop Properties very slow "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message news:%5Qfk.2253$zv7.1530@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com... > Try using both my Explorer Shell Fix tool and my Desktop Reset Tool. > Download them here http://pcbutts1.com/downloads/tools/tools.htm > > > > -- > Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been > obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. > I have already checked the ShellExec issue and it does not apply to this situation. The only issue is with using the control panel applet desk.cpl. TDM
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