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Fixed in Firefox 2.0.0.16

MFSA 2008-35 Command-line URLs launch multiple tabs when Firefox not running

MFSA 2008-34 Remote code execution by overflowing CSS reference counter

 

Not as massively crucial as the 15 update, but it does fix some other

critical issues. If using, download the update via your HELP > Check for

updates

Issued on 07-15-08

 

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Guest Dan

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RE: FireFox 2.0.0.16 update

 

So, do you think Firefox 2.0.x support will indeed end in December 2008, MEB,

or do you think Mozilla will cave to remaining 98 users and other legacy who

still want support.

 

"MEB" wrote:

> Fixed in Firefox 2.0.0.16

> MFSA 2008-35 Command-line URLs launch multiple tabs when Firefox not running

> MFSA 2008-34 Remote code execution by overflowing CSS reference counter

>

> Not as massively crucial as the 15 update, but it does fix some other

> critical issues. If using, download the update via your HELP > Check for

> updates

> Issued on 07-15-08

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

>

>

>

>

Guest MEB

Guest MEB

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Re: FireFox 2.0.0.16 update

 

Depends upon the programmers... if 98 programmers continue, then so will the

product..

 

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MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

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"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:FF316DF8-6A6D-4C2E-9939-D41C2DA589C1@microsoft.com...

| So, do you think Firefox 2.0.x support will indeed end in December 2008,

MEB,

| or do you think Mozilla will cave to remaining 98 users and other legacy

who

| still want support.

|

| "MEB" wrote:

|

| > Fixed in Firefox 2.0.0.16

| > MFSA 2008-35 Command-line URLs launch multiple tabs when Firefox not

running

| > MFSA 2008-34 Remote code execution by overflowing CSS reference counter

| >

| > Not as massively crucial as the 15 update, but it does fix some other

| > critical issues. If using, download the update via your HELP > Check for

| > updates

| > Issued on 07-15-08

| >

| > --

| > MEB

| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > --

| > _________

| >

| >

| >

| >

| >

Guest Dan

Guest Dan

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Re: FireFox 2.0.0.16 update

 

MEB, this could be another defining moment for Windows 98/SE users because

you remember how Microsoft support for 98/SE and ME ended on July 11, 2006

and now if Mozilla Firefox support ends then users like me who use Mozilla

Firefox in 98 Second Edition will have to examine their options. It may

indeed become that 98 is no longer safe to use on the Internet and/or will

users risk switching to Opera or another web browser that has not had nearly

as much testing as Mozilla Firefox.

 

Finally, users must realize that Internet Explorer has not been updated for

98/SE since July 11, 2006 so it is not safe or secure to use that browser for

anything other than Windows Updates in my opinion. Sure, you can always try

and decompile and use Internet Explorer patches for Windows 2000 but you take

the risk of breaking Internet Explorer for Windows 98 Second Edition and the

process is indeed time consuming and then you must track exactly what you did

for any error messages that may pop up and also you risk *.dll problems.

 

"MEB" wrote:

> Depends upon the programmers... if 98 programmers continue, then so will the

> product..

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

>

>

> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:FF316DF8-6A6D-4C2E-9939-D41C2DA589C1@microsoft.com...

> | So, do you think Firefox 2.0.x support will indeed end in December 2008,

> MEB,

> | or do you think Mozilla will cave to remaining 98 users and other legacy

> who

> | still want support.

> |

> | "MEB" wrote:

> |

> | > Fixed in Firefox 2.0.0.16

> | > MFSA 2008-35 Command-line URLs launch multiple tabs when Firefox not

> running

> | > MFSA 2008-34 Remote code execution by overflowing CSS reference counter

> | >

> | > Not as massively crucial as the 15 update, but it does fix some other

> | > critical issues. If using, download the update via your HELP > Check for

> | > updates

> | > Issued on 07-15-08

> | >

> | > --

> | > MEB

> | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > --

> | > _________

> | >

> | >

> | >

> | >

> | >

>

>

>

Guest pixturesk@gmail.com

Guest pixturesk@gmail.com

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Re: FireFox 2.0.0.16 update

 

On Jul 18, 8:04 am, Dan <D...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> MEB, this could be another defining moment for Windows 98/SE users because

> you remember how Microsoft support for 98/SE and ME ended on July 11, 2006

> and now if Mozilla Firefox support ends then users like me who use Mozilla

> Firefox in 98 Second Edition will have to examine their options. It may

> indeed become that 98 is no longer safe to use on the Internet and/or will

> users risk switching to Opera or another web browser that has not had nearly

> as much testing as Mozilla Firefox.

>

> Finally, users must realize that Internet Explorer has not been updated for

> 98/SE since July 11, 2006 so it is not safe or secure to use that browser for

> anything other than Windows Updates in my opinion. Sure, you can always try

> and decompile and use Internet Explorer patches for Windows 2000 but you take

> the risk of breaking Internet Explorer for Windows 98 Second Edition and the

> process is indeed time consuming and then you must track exactly what you did

> for any error messages that may pop up and also you risk *.dll problems.

>

> "MEB" wrote:

> > Depends upon the programmers... if 98 programmers continue, then so will the

> > product..

>

> > --

> > MEB

> > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> > --

> > _________

>

> > "Dan" <D...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >news:FF316DF8-6A6D-4C2E-9939-D41C2DA589C1@microsoft.com...

> > | So, do you think Firefox 2.0.x support will indeed end in December 2008,

> > MEB,

> > | or do you think Mozilla will cave to remaining 98 users and other legacy

> > who

> > | still want support.

> > |

> > | "MEB" wrote:

> > |

> > | > Fixed in Firefox 2.0.0.16

> > | > MFSA 2008-35 Command-line URLs launch multiple tabs when Firefox not

> > running

> > | > MFSA 2008-34 Remote code execution by overflowing CSS reference counter

> > | >

> > | > Not as massively crucial as the 15 update, but it does fix some other

> > | > critical issues. If using, download the update via your HELP > Check for

> > | > updates

> > | > Issued on 07-15-08

> > | >

> > | > --

> > | > MEB

> > | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> > | > --

> > | > _________

 

> > | >

> > | >

> > | >

> > | >

> > | >

 

I think defining moment might be a bit strong. Just as I occasionally

continue to use IE6, I will continue, without hesitation, to use

Firefox 2.0.0.16 or whatever updates follow. Even as a non-techie,

with my current combination of Avast, Super AntiSpyware Free, Spyware

Blaster, Sygate Personal Firewall (the most important component),

CCleaner, HiJack This, I feel that my computer is very safe. I

recently ran the Shields Up tests at GRC.com which check both the File

Sharing and Common Ports on my computer. I somehow get a perfect score

on the Common Ports tests, with all the ports being "stealth". On the

other test I get a result that, to a hacker, my computer does not even

exist on the internet, it refuses to reply to any hacker intrusion, it

will neither request nor reply to any request for information. Check

this site out. With this result I have no fear of continuing to use

Firefox.

Guest Dan

Guest Dan

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Posted

Re: FireFox 2.0.0.16 update

 

(Warning: Here I go again with a long post -- Sorry)

 

The key is how much software and hardware protection do you need? (BTW, I

do know and like grc and the shields up test but thanks anyway.) A few well

placed pieces of software followed by hardware protections such as a router

that has default password and settings changed are good as well as safe

browsing, not opening email attachments, reading email in plain text, etc.

 

Fortunately, 98 Second Edition does not have the larger surface area of XP,

as many services as XP and is much harder to break into then 98 Second

Edition. The key lies in the safety compared to security debate that Chris

Quirke, MVP subscribes to and I agree with him. The reason IT Professionals

who work for large companies do not necessarily like 98SE is that it likes to

be separate from the rest of the network. An IT Professional will not wield

nearly the control of the network from a single computer if a few 98SE

machines are thrown in there for good safety measures. I for one like to be

physically at a machine to manage it and remember that 98SE machines were

meant for consumers, their game playing, and meant mainly to be stand-a-lone

computers and not for businesses although apparently 98SE was popular with

business at one point.

 

I feel a 98SE machine would be a good gateway machine for a company or at

least have a few 98SE machines in a company that if someone managed to hack

through the XP Professional network then the separate 98SE network would not

be infiltrated. I saw this in flying colors after my home pc was hacked last

year because of weak network security protocols on the APS network which I

connected to from home. My huge mistake was not researching and figuring out

that by attaching to the APS Intranet via VPN access with permission from the

head computer guy that I was making my home computer as weak as the APS

intranet when I connected and so my pc was hacked after the APS network was

hacked and my identity stolen. The pc installers of XP Professional used the

default settings on the computers thinking that would be safe enough and you

know it really should be but it is not of course.

 

Anyway, I learned my lesson and will never ask for intranet access again to

a workplace unless it is required for my job. It was not required that I

have access to the Intranet from my home computer. I now realize the

stupidity of my previous decision and have learned my lesson.

 

Finally, I want to give great credit to Chris Quirke, MVP for all his great

help and expertise and also especially to Robear for his help and expertise.

Gary S. Terhune and PCR and there are too many to mention that have helped me

thorugh my inexperience and now slowly but surely in understanding more about

computers and I will learn about networking slowly but surely but in the

meantime I have my hands full with learning Ubuntu Linux and learning more

about Windows Vista.

 

"pixturesk@gmail.com" wrote:

> On Jul 18, 8:04 am, Dan <D...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> > MEB, this could be another defining moment for Windows 98/SE users because

> > you remember how Microsoft support for 98/SE and ME ended on July 11, 2006

> > and now if Mozilla Firefox support ends then users like me who use Mozilla

> > Firefox in 98 Second Edition will have to examine their options. It may

> > indeed become that 98 is no longer safe to use on the Internet and/or will

> > users risk switching to Opera or another web browser that has not had nearly

> > as much testing as Mozilla Firefox.

> >

> > Finally, users must realize that Internet Explorer has not been updated for

> > 98/SE since July 11, 2006 so it is not safe or secure to use that browser for

> > anything other than Windows Updates in my opinion. Sure, you can always try

> > and decompile and use Internet Explorer patches for Windows 2000 but you take

> > the risk of breaking Internet Explorer for Windows 98 Second Edition and the

> > process is indeed time consuming and then you must track exactly what you did

> > for any error messages that may pop up and also you risk *.dll problems.

> >

> > "MEB" wrote:

> > > Depends upon the programmers... if 98 programmers continue, then so will the

> > > product..

> >

> > > --

> > > MEB

> > > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> > > --

> > > _________

> >

> > > "Dan" <D...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > >news:FF316DF8-6A6D-4C2E-9939-D41C2DA589C1@microsoft.com...

> > > | So, do you think Firefox 2.0.x support will indeed end in December 2008,

> > > MEB,

> > > | or do you think Mozilla will cave to remaining 98 users and other legacy

> > > who

> > > | still want support.

> > > |

> > > | "MEB" wrote:

> > > |

> > > | > Fixed in Firefox 2.0.0.16

> > > | > MFSA 2008-35 Command-line URLs launch multiple tabs when Firefox not

> > > running

> > > | > MFSA 2008-34 Remote code execution by overflowing CSS reference counter

> > > | >

> > > | > Not as massively crucial as the 15 update, but it does fix some other

> > > | > critical issues. If using, download the update via your HELP > Check for

> > > | > updates

> > > | > Issued on 07-15-08

> > > | >

> > > | > --

> > > | > MEB

> > > | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> > > | > --

> > > | > _________

>

>

> > > | >

>

> > > | >

> > > | >

> > > | >

> > > | >

>

> I think defining moment might be a bit strong. Just as I occasionally

> continue to use IE6, I will continue, without hesitation, to use

> Firefox 2.0.0.16 or whatever updates follow. Even as a non-techie,

> with my current combination of Avast, Super AntiSpyware Free, Spyware

> Blaster, Sygate Personal Firewall (the most important component),

> CCleaner, HiJack This, I feel that my computer is very safe. I

> recently ran the Shields Up tests at GRC.com which check both the File

> Sharing and Common Ports on my computer. I somehow get a perfect score

> on the Common Ports tests, with all the ports being "stealth". On the

> other test I get a result that, to a hacker, my computer does not even

> exist on the internet, it refuses to reply to any hacker intrusion, it

> will neither request nor reply to any request for information. Check

> this site out. With this result I have no fear of continuing to use

> Firefox.

>

>

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