Changing IP address

[Guest deeps]

Hi!

 

I've got pc and laptop with WinXP pro. I'm trying connecting to connect

these with cross cable. while assigning static ip address on laptop it gives

me message as "System needs to restart to changes to take effect"

 

As far as i know XP doesn't need restart.

 

Please help me out..

Thanks in advance..

Deeps

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Changing IP address

 

 

"deeps" <deeps@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:B2ED0C17-8317-4470-895C-71C1C121D63C@microsoft.com...

> Hi!

>

> I've got pc and laptop with WinXP pro. I'm trying connecting to connect

> these with cross cable. while assigning static ip address on laptop it

> gives

> me message as "System needs to restart to changes to take effect"

>

> As far as i know XP doesn't need restart.

>

> Please help me out..

> Thanks in advance..

> Deeps

 

Correct, it does not need to restart.

[Guest deeps]

Re: Changing IP address

 

Hi!

 

But when 'm trying changing static ip it ask me for restarting pc...why so?

 

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

> "deeps" <deeps@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:B2ED0C17-8317-4470-895C-71C1C121D63C@microsoft.com...

> > Hi!

> >

> > I've got pc and laptop with WinXP pro. I'm trying connecting to connect

> > these with cross cable. while assigning static ip address on laptop it

> > gives

> > me message as "System needs to restart to changes to take effect"

> >

> > As far as i know XP doesn't need restart.

> >

> > Please help me out..

> > Thanks in advance..

> > Deeps

>

> Correct, it does not need to restart.

>

>

>

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Changing IP address

 

Windows has a habit of doing this when a previously disabled

network adapter becomes enabled. I recommend the pragmatic

approach: Only reboot under these circumstances if networking

does not work.

 

 

"deeps" <deeps@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:EDE80DE2-3CAC-412D-845F-CEC1CC40206E@microsoft.com...

> Hi!

>

> But when 'm trying changing static ip it ask me for restarting pc...why

> so?

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

>>

>> "deeps" <deeps@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:B2ED0C17-8317-4470-895C-71C1C121D63C@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi!

>> >

>> > I've got pc and laptop with WinXP pro. I'm trying connecting to connect

>> > these with cross cable. while assigning static ip address on laptop it

>> > gives

>> > me message as "System needs to restart to changes to take effect"

>> >

>> > As far as i know XP doesn't need restart.

>> >

>> > Please help me out..

>> > Thanks in advance..

>> > Deeps

>>

>> Correct, it does not need to restart.

>>

>>

>>

[Guest sf]

Re: Changing IP address

 

I came here to begin a new thread, but maybe it's appropriate to

piggyback on this one.

 

I'm also having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop. Both

browsers say "done", but I get no graphics. Thunderbird receives

mail, but doesn't send (it has the same SMPT as my desktop). I

finally got a brief popup saying there was an IP conflict. I have no

idea how to figure that out or how to rectify it. I suspect that

although I'm directly connected to the net via a router, my computer

must also be trying to access via wireless too.

 

Can you help me with this or should I take it to a shop and have them

figure it out?

 

TIA

```````````````

 

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:21:30 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)"

<I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote:

>Windows has a habit of doing this when a previously disabled

>network adapter becomes enabled. I recommend the pragmatic

>approach: Only reboot under these circumstances if networking

>does not work.

>

>

>"deeps" <deeps@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>news:EDE80DE2-3CAC-412D-845F-CEC1CC40206E@microsoft.com...

>> Hi!

>>

>> But when 'm trying changing static ip it ask me for restarting pc...why

>> so?

>>

>> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> "deeps" <deeps@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:B2ED0C17-8317-4470-895C-71C1C121D63C@microsoft.com...

>>> > Hi!

>>> >

>>> > I've got pc and laptop with WinXP pro. I'm trying connecting to connect

>>> > these with cross cable. while assigning static ip address on laptop it

>>> > gives

>>> > me message as "System needs to restart to changes to take effect"

>>> >

>>> > As far as i know XP doesn't need restart.

>>> >

>>> > Please help me out..

>>> > Thanks in advance..

>>> > Deeps

>>>

>>> Correct, it does not need to restart.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>

 

 

 

--

I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

 

Mae West

[Guest Edric]

Re: Changing IP address

 

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:56:41 -0700, sf wrote:

>I came here to begin a new thread, but maybe it's appropriate to

>piggyback on this one.

>

>I'm also having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop. Both

>browsers say "done", but I get no graphics. Thunderbird receives

>mail, but doesn't send (it has the same SMPT as my desktop). I

>finally got a brief popup saying there was an IP conflict. I have no

>idea how to figure that out or how to rectify it. I suspect that

>although I'm directly connected to the net via a router, my computer

>must also be trying to access via wireless too.

>

>Can you help me with this or should I take it to a shop and have them

>figure it out?

>

>TIA

>```````````````

You needed to start your own thread and not hijack this one.

[Guest Patrick Keenan]

Re: Changing IP address

 

"sf" wrote in message news:trr484pj5nkiani8731n97uj9m3ev0nehu@4ax.com...

>I came here to begin a new thread, but maybe it's appropriate to

> piggyback on this one.

 

No, it isn't.

 

> I'm also having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop. Both

> browsers say "done", but I get no graphics. Thunderbird receives

> mail, but doesn't send (it has the same SMPT as my desktop). I

> finally got a brief popup saying there was an IP conflict. I have no

> idea how to figure that out or how to rectify it. I suspect that

> although I'm directly connected to the net via a router, my computer

> must also be trying to access via wireless too.

>

> Can you help me with this or should I take it to a shop and have them

> figure it out?

 

You can disable the wireless adapter if you're connecting by wire, which

would prevent that from happening. Many laptops have a switch for this

purpose.

 

Releasing and renewing the IP address will force the NICs to get new IP

addresses from the router.

 

From a command prompt issue an "ipconfig /all" command and ensure that wired

and wireless adapters, if both enabled, get IP addresses from the same

router.

 

If your router has wireless, be sure you've changed the SSID away from the

default. It's very possible for Windows to decide to attach to a different

router that has the same SSID.

 

HTH

-pk

 

>

> TIA

> ```````````````

>

> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:21:30 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)"

> <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote:

>

>>Windows has a habit of doing this when a previously disabled

>>network adapter becomes enabled. I recommend the pragmatic

>>approach: Only reboot under these circumstances if networking

>>does not work.

>>

>>

>>"deeps" <deeps@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>news:EDE80DE2-3CAC-412D-845F-CEC1CC40206E@microsoft.com...

>>> Hi!

>>>

>>> But when 'm trying changing static ip it ask me for restarting pc...why

>>> so?

>>>

>>> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>> "deeps" <deeps@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:B2ED0C17-8317-4470-895C-71C1C121D63C@microsoft.com...

>>>> > Hi!

>>>> >

>>>> > I've got pc and laptop with WinXP pro. I'm trying connecting to

>>>> > connect

>>>> > these with cross cable. while assigning static ip address on laptop

>>>> > it

>>>> > gives

>>>> > me message as "System needs to restart to changes to take effect"

>>>> >

>>>> > As far as i know XP doesn't need restart.

>>>> >

>>>> > Please help me out..

>>>> > Thanks in advance..

>>>> > Deeps

>>>>

>>>> Correct, it does not need to restart.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>

>

>

>

> --

> I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the

> number of carats in a diamond.

>

> Mae West

[Guest sf]

Ip problem: was Re: Changing IP address

 

Ip problem: was Re: Changing IP address

 

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:34:37 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null>

wrote:

>"sf" wrote in message news:trr484pj5nkiani8731n97uj9m3ev0nehu@4ax.com...

>>I came here to begin a new thread, but maybe it's appropriate to

>> piggyback on this one.

>

>No, it isn't.

>

>

>> I'm also having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop. Both

>> browsers say "done", but I get no graphics. Thunderbird receives

>> mail, but doesn't send (it has the same SMPT as my desktop). I

>> finally got a brief popup saying there was an IP conflict. I have no

>> idea how to figure that out or how to rectify it. I suspect that

>> although I'm directly connected to the net via a router, my computer

>> must also be trying to access via wireless too.

>>

>> Can you help me with this or should I take it to a shop and have them

>> figure it out?

>

>You can disable the wireless adapter if you're connecting by wire, which

>would prevent that from happening. Many laptops have a switch for this

>purpose.

>

>Releasing and renewing the IP address will force the NICs to get new IP

>addresses from the router.

>

>From a command prompt issue an "ipconfig /all" command and ensure that wired

>and wireless adapters, if both enabled, get IP addresses from the same

>router.

>

>If your router has wireless, be sure you've changed the SSID away from the

>default. It's very possible for Windows to decide to attach to a different

>router that has the same SSID.

>

>HTH

>-pk

>

 

No. That didn't help. I didn't understand a single direction. Can

you simplify what you said to help an "idiot"? "ipconfig/all" gave me

an error message when I entered it into "start > run". Was that what

you expected me to do?

 

TIA

 

 

--

I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

 

Mae West

[Guest sf]

Re: Ip problem: was Re: Changing IP address

 

Re: Ip problem: was Re: Changing IP address

 

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:40:30 -0700, sf wrote:

>On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:34:37 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null>

>wrote:

>

>>"sf" wrote in message news:trr484pj5nkiani8731n97uj9m3ev0nehu@4ax.com...

>>>I came here to begin a new thread, but maybe it's appropriate to

>>> piggyback on this one.

>>

>>No, it isn't.

>>

>>

>>> I'm also having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop. Both

>>> browsers say "done", but I get no graphics. Thunderbird receives

>>> mail, but doesn't send (it has the same SMPT as my desktop). I

>>> finally got a brief popup saying there was an IP conflict. I have no

>>> idea how to figure that out or how to rectify it. I suspect that

>>> although I'm directly connected to the net via a router, my computer

>>> must also be trying to access via wireless too.

>>>

>>> Can you help me with this or should I take it to a shop and have them

>>> figure it out?

>>

>>You can disable the wireless adapter if you're connecting by wire, which

>>would prevent that from happening. Many laptops have a switch for this

>>purpose.

>>

>>Releasing and renewing the IP address will force the NICs to get new IP

>>addresses from the router.

>>

>>From a command prompt issue an "ipconfig /all" command and ensure that wired

>>and wireless adapters, if both enabled, get IP addresses from the same

>>router.

>>

>>If your router has wireless, be sure you've changed the SSID away from the

>>default. It's very possible for Windows to decide to attach to a different

>>router that has the same SSID.

>>

>>HTH

>>-pk

>>

>

>No. That didn't help. I didn't understand a single direction. Can

>you simplify what you said to help an "idiot"? "ipconfig/all" gave me

>an error message when I entered it into "start > run". Was that what

>you expected me to do?

>

>TIA

 

 

All of a sudden, everything is ok again. I have no idea what

happened, but I won't question it. If it reverts I'll come back, but

I'm hoping all is well for now.

 

Thanks for responding.

 

:)

 

 

--

I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

 

Mae West

[Guest witan]

Re: Ip problem: was Re: Changing IP address

 

Re: Ip problem: was Re: Changing IP address

 

On Jul 20, 12:40 pm, sf wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:34:37 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null>

> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> >"sf" wrote in messagenews:trr484pj5nkiani8731n97uj9m3ev0nehu@4ax.com...

> >>I came here to begin a new thread, but maybe it's appropriate to

> >> piggyback on this one.

>

> >No, it isn't.

>

> >> I'm also having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop.  Both

> >> browsers say "done", but I get no graphics.  Thunderbird receives

> >> mail, but doesn't send (it has the same SMPT as my desktop).  I

> >> finally got a brief popup saying there was an IP conflict.  I have no

> >> idea how to figure that out or how to rectify it.  I suspect that

> >> although I'm directly connected to the net via a router, my computer

> >> must also be trying to access via wireless too.

>

> >> Can you help me with this or should I take it to a shop and have them

> >> figure it out?

>

> >You can disable the wireless adapter if you're connecting by wire, which

> >would prevent that from happening.    Many laptops have a switch for this

> >purpose.

>

> >Releasing and renewing the IP address will force the NICs to get new IP

> >addresses from the router.

>

> >From a command prompt issue an "ipconfig /all" command and ensure that wired

> >and wireless adapters, if both enabled, get IP addresses from the same

> >router.

>

> >If your router has wireless, be sure you've changed the SSID away from the

> >default.   It's very possible for Windows to decide to attach to a different

> >router that has the same SSID.

>

> >HTH

> >-pk

>

> No.  That didn't help.  I didn't understand a single direction.  Can

> you simplify what you said to help an "idiot"?  "ipconfig/all" gave me

> an error message when I entered it into "start > run".  Was that what

> you expected me to do?

>

> TIA

>

> --

> I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

>

> Mae West

 

Did you type a space between "ipconfig" and "/all"? It is required

[Guest witan]

Re: Ip problem: was Re: Changing IP address

 

Re: Ip problem: was Re: Changing IP address

 

On Jul 20, 12:40 pm, sf wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:34:37 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null>

> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> >"sf" wrote in messagenews:trr484pj5nkiani8731n97uj9m3ev0nehu@4ax.com...

> >>I came here to begin a new thread, but maybe it's appropriate to

> >> piggyback on this one.

>

> >No, it isn't.

>

> >> I'm also having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop.  Both

> >> browsers say "done", but I get no graphics.  Thunderbird receives

> >> mail, but doesn't send (it has the same SMPT as my desktop).  I

> >> finally got a brief popup saying there was an IP conflict.  I have no

> >> idea how to figure that out or how to rectify it.  I suspect that

> >> although I'm directly connected to the net via a router, my computer

> >> must also be trying to access via wireless too.

>

> >> Can you help me with this or should I take it to a shop and have them

> >> figure it out?

>

> >You can disable the wireless adapter if you're connecting by wire, which

> >would prevent that from happening.    Many laptops have a switch for this

> >purpose.

>

> >Releasing and renewing the IP address will force the NICs to get new IP

> >addresses from the router.

>

> >From a command prompt issue an "ipconfig /all" command and ensure that wired

> >and wireless adapters, if both enabled, get IP addresses from the same

> >router.

>

> >If your router has wireless, be sure you've changed the SSID away from the

> >default.   It's very possible for Windows to decide to attach to a different

> >router that has the same SSID.

>

> >HTH

> >-pk

>

> No.  That didn't help.  I didn't understand a single direction.  Can

> you simplify what you said to help an "idiot"?  "ipconfig/all" gave me

> an error message when I entered it into "start > run".  Was that what

> you expected me to do?

>

> TIA

>

> --

> I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

>

> Mae West

 

You should open a command prompt by first typing (and entering) cmd in

"start" > "run" , and then type ipconfig /all on the command line,

then tap "enter"

[Guest Patrick Keenan]

Re: Ip problem: was Re: Changing IP address

 

Re: Ip problem: was Re: Changing IP address

 

"sf" wrote in message news:mjp584tarjlpqa4eef0047tnhj23mnk34m@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:34:37 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null>

> wrote:

>

>>"sf" wrote in message news:trr484pj5nkiani8731n97uj9m3ev0nehu@4ax.com...

>>>I came here to begin a new thread, but maybe it's appropriate to

>>> piggyback on this one.

>>

>>No, it isn't.

>>

>>

>>> I'm also having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop. Both

>>> browsers say "done", but I get no graphics. Thunderbird receives

>>> mail, but doesn't send (it has the same SMPT as my desktop). I

>>> finally got a brief popup saying there was an IP conflict. I have no

>>> idea how to figure that out or how to rectify it. I suspect that

>>> although I'm directly connected to the net via a router, my computer

>>> must also be trying to access via wireless too.

>>>

>>> Can you help me with this or should I take it to a shop and have them

>>> figure it out?

>>

>>You can disable the wireless adapter if you're connecting by wire, which

>>would prevent that from happening. Many laptops have a switch for this

>>purpose.

>>

>>Releasing and renewing the IP address will force the NICs to get new IP

>>addresses from the router.

>>

>>From a command prompt issue an "ipconfig /all" command and ensure that

>>wired

>>and wireless adapters, if both enabled, get IP addresses from the same

>>router.

>>

>>If your router has wireless, be sure you've changed the SSID away from the

>>default. It's very possible for Windows to decide to attach to a

>>different

>>router that has the same SSID.

>>

>>HTH

>>-pk

>>

>

> No. That didn't help. I didn't understand a single direction. Can

> you simplify what you said to help an "idiot"? "ipconfig/all" gave me

> an error message when I entered it into "start > run". Was that what

> you expected me to do?

 

No, go to Start, run, type CMD, and press enter. THen type "ipconfig

/all", and note that there is a space before the /.

 

You will get an error message if you leave the space out, and if you don't

do it from the command prompt, which is also (mistakenly) referred to as a

"DOS window", the command will execute and vanish before you can read it.

 

The command "ipconfig /release" will reset all the IP address to 0.0.0.0 .

You then issue the command "ipconfig /renew" and this will force the network

cards to get new addresses from the router, if it can.

 

The SSID is the name you gave your wireless system at the time that you set

up your router. When you scan for networks with the wireless card, this is

what you see.

 

If you didn't do this, your router is using the default SSID and if you have

any neighbors with computers there's a good chance that they have similar

hardware and the same SSID, and Windows can easily become confused as to

which one to attach to. Check your router's documentation for changing

the SSID, change it, and be sure your system is connecting to the right

router. This is best done with a wired connection.

 

Now, the fact that you can receive but can't send mail often indicates that

you are connecting to the wrong network.

 

For example, let's say you subscribe to a DSL service and set up your mail

with the information from your provider for their POP/SMTP mail servers.

You know the information is right, and you can receive mail but not send it.

 

Major ISP's SMTP servers use port 25, you can't change this, and for

security reasons (spamming) ISPs do not allow access on port 25 if you are

not connected to their network. If you aren't on their network, your mail

will not send, even if all the rest of the configuration is perfect.

 

So if your mail does not send and you are sure the settings are correct,

this is a big clue that you're on the wrong network.

 

What often happens is that your PC has decided to connect to a neighbor's

wireless router - because it has the same SSID, or you incorrectly pointed

the wireless to their router - and they have, say, a cable internet

subscription, with a different ISP. You're on a different network, and

your ISP will not allow to you access their outgoing mail server from this

other, or ANY other, network.

 

If you travel with a laptop, you're almost certainly going to run into this

when you connect at different locations. What you have to do is find

another outgoing server that isn't your ISP's and does not use Port 25, and

set up your mail client to use that as the outgoing server. I often use

gmail for this purpose. Then, you can send and receive from pretty much

anywhere in the world there is network access.

 

HTH

-pk

>

> TIA

>

>

> --

> I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the

> number of carats in a diamond.

>

> Mae West

[Guest Patrick Keenan]

Re: Ip problem: was Re: Changing IP address

 

Re: Ip problem: was Re: Changing IP address

 

"sf" wrote in message news:abv584tlluntrf6mbq2psvpo2v3cr1n9b8@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:40:30 -0700, sf wrote:

>

>>On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:34:37 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null>

>>wrote:

>>

>>>"sf" wrote in message news:trr484pj5nkiani8731n97uj9m3ev0nehu@4ax.com...

>>>>I came here to begin a new thread, but maybe it's appropriate to

>>>> piggyback on this one.

>>>

>>>No, it isn't.

>>>

>>>

>>>> I'm also having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop. Both

>>>> browsers say "done", but I get no graphics. Thunderbird receives

>>>> mail, but doesn't send (it has the same SMPT as my desktop). I

>>>> finally got a brief popup saying there was an IP conflict. I have no

>>>> idea how to figure that out or how to rectify it. I suspect that

>>>> although I'm directly connected to the net via a router, my computer

>>>> must also be trying to access via wireless too.

>>>>

>>>> Can you help me with this or should I take it to a shop and have them

>>>> figure it out?

>>>

>>>You can disable the wireless adapter if you're connecting by wire, which

>>>would prevent that from happening. Many laptops have a switch for this

>>>purpose.

>>>

>>>Releasing and renewing the IP address will force the NICs to get new IP

>>>addresses from the router.

>>>

>>>From a command prompt issue an "ipconfig /all" command and ensure that

>>>wired

>>>and wireless adapters, if both enabled, get IP addresses from the same

>>>router.

>>>

>>>If your router has wireless, be sure you've changed the SSID away from

>>>the

>>>default. It's very possible for Windows to decide to attach to a

>>>different

>>>router that has the same SSID.

>>>

>>>HTH

>>>-pk

>>>

>>

>>No. That didn't help. I didn't understand a single direction. Can

>>you simplify what you said to help an "idiot"? "ipconfig/all" gave me

>>an error message when I entered it into "start > run". Was that what

>>you expected me to do?

>>

>>TIA

>

>

> All of a sudden, everything is ok again. I have no idea what

> happened, but I won't question it. If it reverts I'll come back, but

> I'm hoping all is well for now.

>

> Thanks for responding.

 

What probably happened is that you are now connecting to the correct router.

It sounds like you were connecting to someone else's. See my other reply

for details.

 

HTH

-pk

 

>

> :)

>

>

> --

> I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the

> number of carats in a diamond.

>

> Mae West