Guest Patty Posted July 20, 2008 Posted July 20, 2008 I had my Automatic Updates set to "Download updates, but let me decide when to install" and sometime today, an update came in. Since I was away from the computer, the update shield is now missing from the taskbar and when I choose "Turn off computer" it shows that it will install the downloaded updates when the system is turned off. Since I believe that this update is SP3 and I choose not to install it at this time, how can I tell Windows to skip this install, or how can I get the shield back in the taskbar so I can choose to not install it? It used to leave the shield in the taskbar until I made a choice, but now it appears to no longer do that. I know that I can chose the option to not install the update on shutdown, but when I bring the system back up, that install update choice is there again. I just don't want SP3 getting installed by mistake, since I'm not ready to do the install and I'm not sure at this time I even want to. Many thanks for any help. Patty
Guest TaurArian Posted July 20, 2008 Posted July 20, 2008 Re: Automatic Updates What has downloaded? Click Start, and then click Run. In the Open box, type: %windir%\windowsupdate.log and then click OK. Scroll down towards the bottom for the latest entries to locate what has recently downloaded and waiting to install. For the current listing of Security patches for this month - http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/current.aspx If you don't want this to happen in the future (updates downloading), configure AU to notify only. FYI All downloaded updates go into the softwaredistribution folder under downloads if you wish to delete any, but if you do that because you don't want them to install, you had better change your AU settings. Release notes for Windows XP Service Pack 3 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929 The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 3 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947311 Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717 Some third-party programs may experience a change in functionality after you install Windows XP Service Pack 3 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947309 How to obtain the latest Windows XP service pack http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 -- TaurArian [MVP] 2005-2009 - Update Services http://taurarian.mvps.org ====================================== How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Computer Maintenance: Acronis / Diskeeper / Paragon / Raxco "Patty" <patty@iainttellin.com> wrote in message news:1wkg5hbs2wip4.1upialmn2vf7p.dlg@40tude.net... |I had my Automatic Updates set to "Download updates, but let me decide when | to install" and sometime today, an update came in. Since I was away from | the computer, the update shield is now missing from the taskbar and when I | choose "Turn off computer" it shows that it will install the downloaded | updates when the system is turned off. Since I believe that this update is | SP3 and I choose not to install it at this time, how can I tell Windows to | skip this install, or how can I get the shield back in the taskbar so I can | choose to not install it? It used to leave the shield in the taskbar until | I made a choice, but now it appears to no longer do that. I know that I can | chose the option to not install the update on shutdown, but when I bring | the system back up, that install update choice is there again. I just | don't want SP3 getting installed by mistake, since I'm not ready to do the | install and I'm not sure at this time I even want to. | | Many thanks for any help. | | Patty
Guest Patty Posted July 20, 2008 Posted July 20, 2008 Re: Automatic Updates On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:27:27 +1000, TaurArian wrote: > What has downloaded? > > Click Start, and then click Run. > In the Open box, type: %windir%\windowsupdate.log > and then click OK. > > Scroll down towards the bottom for the latest entries to locate what has recently > downloaded and waiting to install. > > For the current listing of Security patches for this month - > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/current.aspx > > If you don't want this to happen in the future (updates downloading), configure AU to > notify only. > > FYI All downloaded updates go into the softwaredistribution folder under downloads if you > wish to delete any, but if you do that because you don't want them to install, you had > better change your AU settings. > > Release notes for Windows XP Service Pack 3 > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929 > > The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 3 > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947311 > > Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3 > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717 > > Some third-party programs may experience a change in functionality after you install > Windows XP Service Pack 3 > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947309 > > How to obtain the latest Windows XP service pack > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 Ok, from the log file, I can see that in the last two days three updates have been downloaded: KB941569, KB936929, and KB923689 (which is SP3). SP3 downloaded on 7/18, the other two downloaded on 7/19 (I'm wondering why windows update never notified me of these downloads?) There are three folders in the softwaredistribution folder that are dated 7/18 and 7/19. If I delete the one from 7/18, will it force Windows to redo the notification if I change my update settings? Download but notify me has always worked in the past, until now, the shield icon has always stayed in the taskbar until I decided what I wanted to do. But not this time. I just need more time to prepare for the SP3 update, and yes, I've read numerous information from microsoft on what to do before updating, etc. Thanks for your help. Patty
Guest Patty Posted July 20, 2008 Posted July 20, 2008 Re: Automatic Updates Resolved (was: Automatic Updates) Re: Automatic Updates Resolved (was: Automatic Updates) On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:43:05 -0400, Patty wrote: > I had my Automatic Updates set to "Download updates, but let me decide when > to install" and sometime today, an update came in. Since I was away from > the computer, the update shield is now missing from the taskbar and when I > choose "Turn off computer" it shows that it will install the downloaded > updates when the system is turned off. Since I believe that this update is > SP3 and I choose not to install it at this time, how can I tell Windows to > skip this install, or how can I get the shield back in the taskbar so I can > choose to not install it? It used to leave the shield in the taskbar until > I made a choice, but now it appears to no longer do that. I know that I can > chose the option to not install the update on shutdown, but when I bring > the system back up, that install update choice is there again. I just > don't want SP3 getting installed by mistake, since I'm not ready to do the > install and I'm not sure at this time I even want to. > > Many thanks for any help. > > Patty This morning the little update shield icon poppped up in my system try and I clicked on it. It showed the two Media Format updates (KB941569 and KB936929) which I installed. SP3 has not come up for update in Windows update, even though it downloaded something on 7/18 (perhaps I did cancel it at that time, I don't remember, I have 3 other computers I was dealing with also). So all is well. When I'm ready to do SP3, I plan to just download the file (I'll want it to make a new slipstream disk anyhow) and take care of it then. Thanks again. Patty
Guest Moi Posted July 20, 2008 Posted July 20, 2008 Re: Automatic Updates Which log file please? And will deleting a log file do any harm? "Patty" <patty@iainttellin.com> wrote in message news:1f35a91jq95zp.yhgp2qdnmm6i$.dlg@40tude.net... > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:27:27 +1000, TaurArian wrote: > >> What has downloaded? >> >> Click Start, and then click Run. >> In the Open box, type: %windir%\windowsupdate.log >> and then click OK. >> >> Scroll down towards the bottom for the latest entries to locate what has >> recently >> downloaded and waiting to install. >> >> For the current listing of Security patches for this month - >> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/current.aspx >> >> If you don't want this to happen in the future (updates downloading), >> configure AU to >> notify only. >> >> FYI All downloaded updates go into the softwaredistribution folder under >> downloads if you >> wish to delete any, but if you do that because you don't want them to >> install, you had >> better change your AU settings. >> >> Release notes for Windows XP Service Pack 3 >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929 >> >> The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 3 >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947311 >> >> Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3 >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717 >> >> Some third-party programs may experience a change in functionality after >> you install >> Windows XP Service Pack 3 >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947309 >> >> How to obtain the latest Windows XP service pack >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 > > Ok, from the log file, I can see that in the last two days three updates > have been downloaded: KB941569, KB936929, and KB923689 (which is SP3). > SP3 downloaded on 7/18, the other two downloaded on 7/19 (I'm wondering > why > windows update never notified me of these downloads?) > > There are three folders in the softwaredistribution folder that are dated > 7/18 and 7/19. If I delete the one from 7/18, will it force Windows to > redo the notification if I change my update settings? > > Download but notify me has always worked in the past, until now, the > shield > icon has always stayed in the taskbar until I decided what I wanted to do. > But not this time. > > I just need more time to prepare for the SP3 update, and yes, I've read > numerous information from microsoft on what to do before updating, etc. > > Thanks for your help. > > Patty
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted July 20, 2008 Posted July 20, 2008 Re: Automatic Updates Resolved (was: Automatic Updates) Re: Automatic Updates Resolved (was: Automatic Updates) Patty wrote: >> I had my Automatic Updates set to "Download updates, but let me decide >> when >> to install" and sometime today, an update came in. Since I was away from >> the computer, the update shield is now missing from the taskbar and when >> I >> choose "Turn off computer" it shows that it will install the downloaded >> updates when the system is turned off. Since I believe that this update >> is >> SP3 and I choose not to install it at this time, how can I tell Windows >> to >> skip this install, or how can I get the shield back in the taskbar so I >> can >> choose to not install it? It used to leave the shield in the taskbar >> until >> I made a choice, but now it appears to no longer do that. I know that I >> can >> chose the option to not install the update on shutdown, but when I bring >> the system back up, that install update choice is there again. I just >> don't want SP3 getting installed by mistake, since I'm not ready to do >> the >> install and I'm not sure at this time I even want to. >> > This morning the little update shield icon poppped up in my system try and > I clicked on it. It showed the two Media Format updates (KB941569 and > KB936929) which I installed. SP3 has not come up for update in Windows > update, even though it downloaded something on 7/18 (perhaps I did cancel > it at that time, I don't remember, I have 3 other computers I was dealing > with also). So all is well. > > When I'm ready to do SP3, I plan to just download the file (I'll want it > to > make a new slipstream disk anyhow) and take care of it then. Er..., um..., KB936929 is not a "Media Format" update, it's WinXP SP3. Information about Windows XP Service Pack 3 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929 If your Automatic Updates setting is Download But Notify, you must have approved the install of KB936929 (WinXP SP3), Patty. SP3 does NOT install without approving the EULA (even if your Automatic Updates setting is Automatic). -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
Guest Patty Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Re: Automatic Updates > > "Patty" <patty@iainttellin.com> wrote in message > news:1f35a91jq95zp.yhgp2qdnmm6i$.dlg@40tude.net... >> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:27:27 +1000, TaurArian wrote: >> >>> What has downloaded? >>> >>> Click Start, and then click Run. >>> In the Open box, type: %windir%\windowsupdate.log >>> and then click OK. >>> >>> Scroll down towards the bottom for the latest entries to locate what has >>> recently >>> downloaded and waiting to install. >>> >>> For the current listing of Security patches for this month - >>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/current.aspx >>> >>> If you don't want this to happen in the future (updates downloading), >>> configure AU to >>> notify only. >>> >>> FYI All downloaded updates go into the softwaredistribution folder under >>> downloads if you >>> wish to delete any, but if you do that because you don't want them to >>> install, you had >>> better change your AU settings. >>> >>> Release notes for Windows XP Service Pack 3 >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929 >>> >>> The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 3 >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947311 >>> >>> Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3 >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717 >>> >>> Some third-party programs may experience a change in functionality after >>> you install >>> Windows XP Service Pack 3 >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947309 >>> >>> How to obtain the latest Windows XP service pack >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 >> >> Ok, from the log file, I can see that in the last two days three updates >> have been downloaded: KB941569, KB936929, and KB923689 (which is SP3). >> SP3 downloaded on 7/18, the other two downloaded on 7/19 (I'm wondering >> why >> windows update never notified me of these downloads?) >> >> There are three folders in the softwaredistribution folder that are dated >> 7/18 and 7/19. If I delete the one from 7/18, will it force Windows to >> redo the notification if I change my update settings? >> >> Download but notify me has always worked in the past, until now, the >> shield >> icon has always stayed in the taskbar until I decided what I wanted to do. >> But not this time. >> >> I just need more time to prepare for the SP3 update, and yes, I've read >> numerous information from microsoft on what to do before updating, etc. >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Patty On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:05:49 +1000, Moi wrote: > Which log file please? And will deleting a log file do any harm? Windowsupdate log file: %windir%\windowsupdate.log. I would think that deleting the log file would not do any harm. Patty
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Re: Automatic Updates Do NOT delete WindowsUpdate.log!!! Patty wrote: >> "Patty" <patty@iainttellin.com> wrote in message >> news:1f35a91jq95zp.yhgp2qdnmm6i$.dlg@40tude.net... >>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:27:27 +1000, TaurArian wrote: >>> >>>> What has downloaded? >>>> >>>> Click Start, and then click Run. >>>> In the Open box, type: %windir%\windowsupdate.log >>>> and then click OK. >>>> >>>> Scroll down towards the bottom for the latest entries to locate what >>>> has >>>> recently >>>> downloaded and waiting to install. >>>> >>>> For the current listing of Security patches for this month - >>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/current.aspx >>>> >>>> If you don't want this to happen in the future (updates downloading), >>>> configure AU to >>>> notify only. >>>> >>>> FYI All downloaded updates go into the softwaredistribution folder >>>> under >>>> downloads if you >>>> wish to delete any, but if you do that because you don't want them to >>>> install, you had >>>> better change your AU settings. >>>> >>>> Release notes for Windows XP Service Pack 3 >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929 >>>> >>>> The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 3 >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947311 >>>> >>>> Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3 >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717 >>>> >>>> Some third-party programs may experience a change in functionality >>>> after >>>> you install >>>> Windows XP Service Pack 3 >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947309 >>>> >>>> How to obtain the latest Windows XP service pack >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 >>> >>> Ok, from the log file, I can see that in the last two days three updates >>> have been downloaded: KB941569, KB936929, and KB923689 (which is SP3). >>> SP3 downloaded on 7/18, the other two downloaded on 7/19 (I'm wondering >>> why >>> windows update never notified me of these downloads?) >>> >>> There are three folders in the softwaredistribution folder that are >>> dated >>> 7/18 and 7/19. If I delete the one from 7/18, will it force Windows to >>> redo the notification if I change my update settings? >>> >>> Download but notify me has always worked in the past, until now, the >>> shield >>> icon has always stayed in the taskbar until I decided what I wanted to >>> do. >>> But not this time. >>> >>> I just need more time to prepare for the SP3 update, and yes, I've read >>> numerous information from microsoft on what to do before updating, etc. >>> >>> Thanks for your help. >>> >>> Patty > On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:05:49 +1000, Moi wrote: > >> Which log file please? And will deleting a log file do any harm? > > Windowsupdate log file: %windir%\windowsupdate.log. I would think that > deleting the log file would not do any harm. > > Patty
Guest Patty Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Re: Automatic Updates Resolved Re: Automatic Updates Resolved On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:45:38 -0400, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: > Patty wrote: >>> I had my Automatic Updates set to "Download updates, but let me decide >>> when >>> to install" and sometime today, an update came in. Since I was away from >>> the computer, the update shield is now missing from the taskbar and when >>> I >>> choose "Turn off computer" it shows that it will install the downloaded >>> updates when the system is turned off. Since I believe that this update >>> is >>> SP3 and I choose not to install it at this time, how can I tell Windows >>> to >>> skip this install, or how can I get the shield back in the taskbar so I >>> can >>> choose to not install it? It used to leave the shield in the taskbar >>> until >>> I made a choice, but now it appears to no longer do that. I know that I >>> can >>> chose the option to not install the update on shutdown, but when I bring >>> the system back up, that install update choice is there again. I just >>> don't want SP3 getting installed by mistake, since I'm not ready to do >>> the >>> install and I'm not sure at this time I even want to. >>> >> This morning the little update shield icon poppped up in my system try and >> I clicked on it. It showed the two Media Format updates (KB941569 and >> KB936929) which I installed. SP3 has not come up for update in Windows >> update, even though it downloaded something on 7/18 (perhaps I did cancel >> it at that time, I don't remember, I have 3 other computers I was dealing >> with also). So all is well. >> >> When I'm ready to do SP3, I plan to just download the file (I'll want it >> to >> make a new slipstream disk anyhow) and take care of it then. > > Er..., um..., KB936929 is not a "Media Format" update, it's WinXP SP3. > > Information about Windows XP Service Pack 3 > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929 > > If your Automatic Updates setting is Download But Notify, you must have > approved the install of KB936929 (WinXP SP3), Patty. SP3 does NOT install > without approving the EULA (even if your Automatic Updates setting is > Automatic). Sorry, that was KB923689 not KB936929 (I typed the wrong one in my post). Service Pack 3 has not been installed. However, a folder for Service Pack 3 downloaded in the Windows softwaredistribution folder, but nothing has been installed with that. When I check the install history at Microsoft Update I see that today I did indeed install "Security Update for Windows XP with Windows Media Format Runtime 9.5 and 11 (KB941569)" and "Security Update for Windows XP with Windows Media Format Runtime 9.5 (KB923689)". SP3 still shows up at Microsoft Update for installation and that it has not been installed yet. The Windowsupdate log does show: http://au.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/dflt/2008/04/windowsxp-kb936929-sp3-express-x86-enu_1b719f58c511d60ecfd5aa76904241723be30c9c.exe to C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\Download\fd0264849c01086f3c6b505dc02dbd44\WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-Express-x86-ENU.exe (full file). So, it downloaded something (I show 3 odd file names in that folder) on 7/18 but I did not install it. I'm wondering if I can delete that folder since I don't plan on installing it at this time? Sorry for my mistake in typing the KB#. Patty
Guest Patty Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Re: Automatic Updates On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:10:45 -0400, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: > Do NOT delete WindowsUpdate.log!!! Oops! My mistake. Does Windows access it? There is some very cryptic info in there. I know it can be helpful if you're trying to figure out what went on as I did. Patty
Guest Moi Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Re: Automatic Updates Exactly why? "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:OWTNJZs6IHA.4292@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Do NOT delete WindowsUpdate.log!!! > > Patty wrote: >>> "Patty" <patty@iainttellin.com> wrote in message >>> news:1f35a91jq95zp.yhgp2qdnmm6i$.dlg@40tude.net... >>>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:27:27 +1000, TaurArian wrote: >>>> >>>>> What has downloaded? >>>>> >>>>> Click Start, and then click Run. >>>>> In the Open box, type: %windir%\windowsupdate.log >>>>> and then click OK. >>>>> >>>>> Scroll down towards the bottom for the latest entries to locate what >>>>> has >>>>> recently >>>>> downloaded and waiting to install. >>>>> >>>>> For the current listing of Security patches for this month - >>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/current.aspx >>>>> >>>>> If you don't want this to happen in the future (updates downloading), >>>>> configure AU to >>>>> notify only. >>>>> >>>>> FYI All downloaded updates go into the softwaredistribution folder >>>>> under >>>>> downloads if you >>>>> wish to delete any, but if you do that because you don't want them to >>>>> install, you had >>>>> better change your AU settings. >>>>> >>>>> Release notes for Windows XP Service Pack 3 >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929 >>>>> >>>>> The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 3 >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947311 >>>>> >>>>> Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3 >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717 >>>>> >>>>> Some third-party programs may experience a change in functionality >>>>> after >>>>> you install >>>>> Windows XP Service Pack 3 >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947309 >>>>> >>>>> How to obtain the latest Windows XP service pack >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 >>>> >>>> Ok, from the log file, I can see that in the last two days three >>>> updates >>>> have been downloaded: KB941569, KB936929, and KB923689 (which is SP3). >>>> SP3 downloaded on 7/18, the other two downloaded on 7/19 (I'm wondering >>>> why >>>> windows update never notified me of these downloads?) >>>> >>>> There are three folders in the softwaredistribution folder that are >>>> dated >>>> 7/18 and 7/19. If I delete the one from 7/18, will it force Windows to >>>> redo the notification if I change my update settings? >>>> >>>> Download but notify me has always worked in the past, until now, the >>>> shield >>>> icon has always stayed in the taskbar until I decided what I wanted to >>>> do. >>>> But not this time. >>>> >>>> I just need more time to prepare for the SP3 update, and yes, I've read >>>> numerous information from microsoft on what to do before updating, etc. >>>> >>>> Thanks for your help. >>>> >>>> Patty >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:05:49 +1000, Moi wrote: >> >>> Which log file please? And will deleting a log file do any harm? >> >> Windowsupdate log file: %windir%\windowsupdate.log. I would think that >> deleting the log file would not do any harm. >> >> Patty >
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