Guest cccdddrrr@hotmail.co.uk Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Briefly, I bought Win95 CD and found I got the final release (OEM Service Release 2.5). I thought that was useful - to get the final release. I'd like to buy Win98. When looking on places like ebay, how can I tell which is the final version - by squinting at the blurry photos sellers upload? It's interesting - reading wikipedia they say win95 had quite a few releases, but win98 only had 2. Is this correct?! Also, does Win98 (SE version) greatly benefit from applying MS patches, strictly in terms of stability or useful additional functionality, and not in terms of security. (I am not interested in applying security patches to Win98 because I'll never connect this retro machine to the net.) Thanks a lot for any advice.
Guest MEB Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Re: Windows 98 CD - which was the last one released? In news:4596894f-2b01-4faf-a069-0a024bf39b1d@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com , cccdddrrr@hotmail.co.uk contemplated and posted: | Briefly, I bought Win95 CD and found I got the final release (OEM | Service Release 2.5). I thought that was useful - to get the final | release. | | I'd like to buy Win98. When looking on places like ebay, how can I | tell which is the final version - by squinting at the blurry photos | sellers upload? | | It's interesting - reading wikipedia they say win95 had quite a few | releases, but win98 only had 2. Is this correct?! | | Also, does Win98 (SE version) greatly benefit from applying MS | patches, strictly in terms of stability or useful additional | functionality, and not in terms of security. (I am not interested in | applying security patches to Win98 because I'll never connect this | retro machine to the net.) | | Thanks a lot for any advice. Yes, just the two, 98FE {first edition} and SE {Service/Second edition}. Millennium was the third in the series [cross over to NT].. There were several updates which might be applicable for a standard non-Internet installation [never to connect] dealing with system files {DCOM, MDAC, GDI, DirectX, JET, etc.], memory, hard drives {size limitations and tools}, ACPI/APM, shutdown issues, specific fixes for various BIOS/motherboard problems, and several others. Also some video card drivers and other will not work properly without some of the upgrades/fixes. You MAY also need some of these files depending upon what other applications you might install, or issues related to problems with your particular setup and/or computer. If you supply your computer manufacturer and model, or the motherboard and hard drive/devices used, and intended application installation/use, we MAY be able to advise on which files might be crutial or necessary. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________
Guest philo Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Re: Windows 98 CD - which was the last one released? <cccdddrrr@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:4596894f-2b01-4faf-a069-0a024bf39b1d@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... > Briefly, I bought Win95 CD and found I got the final release (OEM > Service Release 2.5). I thought that was useful - to get the final > release. > > I'd like to buy Win98. When looking on places like ebay, how can I > tell which is the final version - by squinting at the blurry photos > sellers upload? > > It's interesting - reading wikipedia they say win95 had quite a few > releases, but win98 only had 2. Is this correct?! > > Also, does Win98 (SE version) greatly benefit from applying MS > patches, strictly in terms of stability or useful additional > functionality, and not in terms of security. (I am not interested in > applying security patches to Win98 because I'll never connect this > retro machine to the net.) > > Thanks a lot for any advice. The last version of win98 was simply win98SE. Back when I ran win98 regularly, I upgraded to win98se simply for ICS. While I was waiting for my cd to arrive from ebay... I ended up finding a free 3rd party utility, so could have gone without "SE" I had also heard that the second edition had improved USB support but I did not notice any difference. Though to add USB 2 the appropriate drivers and hardware would be needed... I'd imagine Win98se would be the way to go if you'd want USB 2 .
Guest Dan Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Re: Windows 98 CD - which was the last one released? Philo, I am posting from Windows 98 Second Edition now and USB 2.x works great in 98 Second Edition. You just need to make sure the add-in card has drivers that support Windows 98 Second Edition with USB 2.x. BTW, do you know anything about the future USB 3.x? I am too lazy now to bother with the Google search engine about it. "philo" wrote: > > <cccdddrrr@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:4596894f-2b01-4faf-a069-0a024bf39b1d@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... > > Briefly, I bought Win95 CD and found I got the final release (OEM > > Service Release 2.5). I thought that was useful - to get the final > > release. > > > > I'd like to buy Win98. When looking on places like ebay, how can I > > tell which is the final version - by squinting at the blurry photos > > sellers upload? > > > > It's interesting - reading wikipedia they say win95 had quite a few > > releases, but win98 only had 2. Is this correct?! > > > > Also, does Win98 (SE version) greatly benefit from applying MS > > patches, strictly in terms of stability or useful additional > > functionality, and not in terms of security. (I am not interested in > > applying security patches to Win98 because I'll never connect this > > retro machine to the net.) > > > > Thanks a lot for any advice. > > The last version of win98 was simply win98SE. > > Back when I ran win98 regularly, I upgraded to win98se simply for ICS. > While I was waiting for my cd to arrive from ebay... > I ended up finding a free 3rd party utility, so could have gone without "SE" > > I had also heard that the second edition had improved USB support > but I did not notice any difference. > > Though to add USB 2 the appropriate drivers and hardware would be needed... > I'd imagine Win98se would be the way to go if you'd want USB 2 . > > > > >
Guest philo Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Re: Windows 98 CD - which was the last one released? "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3EC9C69F-2C16-4F47-A499-F50FF071B6F6@microsoft.com... > Philo, I am posting from Windows 98 Second Edition now and USB 2.x works > great in 98 Second Edition. You just need to make sure the add-in card has > drivers that support Windows 98 Second Edition with USB 2.x. BTW, do you > know anything about the future USB 3.x? I am too lazy now to bother with the > Google search engine about it. > > "philo" wrote: > > > > > <cccdddrrr@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > > news:4596894f-2b01-4faf-a069-0a024bf39b1d@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... > > > Briefly, I bought Win95 CD and found I got the final release (OEM > > > Service Release 2.5). I thought that was useful - to get the final > > > release. > > > > > > I'd like to buy Win98. When looking on places like ebay, how can I > > > tell which is the final version - by squinting at the blurry photos > > > sellers upload? > > > > > > It's interesting - reading wikipedia they say win95 had quite a few > > > releases, but win98 only had 2. Is this correct?! > > > > > > Also, does Win98 (SE version) greatly benefit from applying MS > > > patches, strictly in terms of stability or useful additional > > > functionality, and not in terms of security. (I am not interested in > > > applying security patches to Win98 because I'll never connect this > > > retro machine to the net.) > > > > > > Thanks a lot for any advice. > > > > The last version of win98 was simply win98SE. > > > > Back when I ran win98 regularly, I upgraded to win98se simply for ICS. > > While I was waiting for my cd to arrive from ebay... > > I ended up finding a free 3rd party utility, so could have gone without "SE" > > > > I had also heard that the second edition had improved USB support > > but I did not notice any difference. > > > > Though to add USB 2 the appropriate drivers and hardware would be needed... > > I'd imagine Win98se would be the way to go if you'd want USB 2 . > > > > > > > > > > Here is a lot of USB info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB For me USB 2 is just fine but if they are going to go with something faster... that's OK by me!
Guest Lil' Dave Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Re: Windows 98 CD - which was the last one released? <cccdddrrr@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:4596894f-2b01-4faf-a069-0a024bf39b1d@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... > Briefly, I bought Win95 CD and found I got the final release (OEM > Service Release 2.5). I thought that was useful - to get the final > release. > > I'd like to buy Win98. When looking on places like ebay, how can I > tell which is the final version - by squinting at the blurry photos > sellers upload? > > It's interesting - reading wikipedia they say win95 had quite a few > releases, but win98 only had 2. Is this correct?! > > Also, does Win98 (SE version) greatly benefit from applying MS > patches, strictly in terms of stability or useful additional > functionality, and not in terms of security. (I am not interested in > applying security patches to Win98 because I'll never connect this > retro machine to the net.) > > Thanks a lot for any advice. 4 versions of windows 95 that I'm aware of. 95, A, B, and C. The second 2 support FAT 32 and USB 1.0. 98SE, last version of 98 supports USB 2.0. There is also a patch, if 98SE is installed, for performance issues that includes firewire as well. This and other fixes were included in Millenium Edition at the get-go. -- Dave Bailout: Friend, relative, business acquaintance paying a sum to get the accused out of jail until court is ready to proceed. Bailout: U.S. taxpayers paying a sum of money for some critical business failure that was fleecing the taxpayer to begin with. Somehow, the word "bailout" seems very different.
Guest Dan Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Re: Windows 98 CD - which was the last one released? Thanks philo and I just checked and have 8 tabs open in Mozilla Firefox and my system resources for anyone interested in Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition are as follows: System resources: 72% free User resources: 72% free GDI resources: 80% free Ah, GDI is Graphic Device Interface which I forget and great thanks to the website located below and all the Microsoft experts and MVPs and other people like PCR and you philo who go the extra mile to help people out. http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/resource.php ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "philo" wrote: > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:3EC9C69F-2C16-4F47-A499-F50FF071B6F6@microsoft.com... > > Philo, I am posting from Windows 98 Second Edition now and USB 2.x works > > great in 98 Second Edition. You just need to make sure the add-in card > has > > drivers that support Windows 98 Second Edition with USB 2.x. BTW, do you > > know anything about the future USB 3.x? I am too lazy now to bother with > the > > Google search engine about it. > > > > "philo" wrote: > > > > > > > > <cccdddrrr@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > > > news:4596894f-2b01-4faf-a069-0a024bf39b1d@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... > > > > Briefly, I bought Win95 CD and found I got the final release (OEM > > > > Service Release 2.5). I thought that was useful - to get the final > > > > release. > > > > > > > > I'd like to buy Win98. When looking on places like ebay, how can I > > > > tell which is the final version - by squinting at the blurry photos > > > > sellers upload? > > > > > > > > It's interesting - reading wikipedia they say win95 had quite a few > > > > releases, but win98 only had 2. Is this correct?! > > > > > > > > Also, does Win98 (SE version) greatly benefit from applying MS > > > > patches, strictly in terms of stability or useful additional > > > > functionality, and not in terms of security. (I am not interested in > > > > applying security patches to Win98 because I'll never connect this > > > > retro machine to the net.) > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for any advice. > > > > > > The last version of win98 was simply win98SE. > > > > > > Back when I ran win98 regularly, I upgraded to win98se simply for ICS. > > > While I was waiting for my cd to arrive from ebay... > > > I ended up finding a free 3rd party utility, so could have gone without > "SE" > > > > > > I had also heard that the second edition had improved USB support > > > but I did not notice any difference. > > > > > > Though to add USB 2 the appropriate drivers and hardware would be > needed... > > > I'd imagine Win98se would be the way to go if you'd want USB 2 . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a lot of USB info > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB > > For me USB 2 is just fine but if they are going to go with something > faster... > that's OK by me! > > >
Guest Dan Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Re: Windows 98 CD - which was the last one released? Lil' Dave as far as I understand, USB 2.0 is supported via third parties with 98 Second Edition and natively in Windows ME. Is this correct? "Lil' Dave" wrote: > <cccdddrrr@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:4596894f-2b01-4faf-a069-0a024bf39b1d@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... > > Briefly, I bought Win95 CD and found I got the final release (OEM > > Service Release 2.5). I thought that was useful - to get the final > > release. > > > > I'd like to buy Win98. When looking on places like ebay, how can I > > tell which is the final version - by squinting at the blurry photos > > sellers upload? > > > > It's interesting - reading wikipedia they say win95 had quite a few > > releases, but win98 only had 2. Is this correct?! > > > > Also, does Win98 (SE version) greatly benefit from applying MS > > patches, strictly in terms of stability or useful additional > > functionality, and not in terms of security. (I am not interested in > > applying security patches to Win98 because I'll never connect this > > retro machine to the net.) > > > > Thanks a lot for any advice. > > 4 versions of windows 95 that I'm aware of. 95, A, B, and C. The second 2 > support FAT 32 and USB 1.0. > > 98SE, last version of 98 supports USB 2.0. There is also a patch, if 98SE > is installed, for performance issues that includes firewire as well. This > and other fixes were included in Millenium Edition at the get-go. > -- > Dave > > Bailout: Friend, relative, business acquaintance > paying a sum to get the accused > out of jail until court is ready to proceed. > > Bailout: U.S. taxpayers paying a sum of > money for some critical business failure > that was fleecing the taxpayer to begin > with. > Somehow, the word "bailout" seems > very different. > > >
Guest philo Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Re: Windows 98 CD - which was the last one released? "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7BE64650-5020-4EBC-9A64-77AA02114189@microsoft.com... > Lil' Dave as far as I understand, USB 2.0 is supported via third parties with > 98 Second Edition and natively in Windows ME. Is this correct? > Though USB drivers would be avail for Windows ME & Win98se It was not supported natively for either http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/connect/USB/USB2support.mspx > "Lil' Dave" wrote: > > > <cccdddrrr@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > > news:4596894f-2b01-4faf-a069-0a024bf39b1d@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... > > > Briefly, I bought Win95 CD and found I got the final release (OEM > > > Service Release 2.5). I thought that was useful - to get the final > > > release. > > > > > > I'd like to buy Win98. When looking on places like ebay, how can I > > > tell which is the final version - by squinting at the blurry photos > > > sellers upload? > > > > > > It's interesting - reading wikipedia they say win95 had quite a few > > > releases, but win98 only had 2. Is this correct?! > > > > > > Also, does Win98 (SE version) greatly benefit from applying MS > > > patches, strictly in terms of stability or useful additional > > > functionality, and not in terms of security. (I am not interested in > > > applying security patches to Win98 because I'll never connect this > > > retro machine to the net.) > > > > > > Thanks a lot for any advice. > > > > 4 versions of windows 95 that I'm aware of. 95, A, B, and C. The second 2 > > support FAT 32 and USB 1.0. > > > > 98SE, last version of 98 supports USB 2.0. There is also a patch, if 98SE > > is installed, for performance issues that includes firewire as well. This > > and other fixes were included in Millenium Edition at the get-go. > > -- > > Dave > > > > Bailout: Friend, relative, business acquaintance > > paying a sum to get the accused > > out of jail until court is ready to proceed. > > > > Bailout: U.S. taxpayers paying a sum of > > money for some critical business failure > > that was fleecing the taxpayer to begin > > with. > > Somehow, the word "bailout" seems > > very different. > > > > > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Re: Windows 98 CD - which was the last one released? Versions of Windows earlier than XP may not have been mentioned simply because Microsoft doesn't support them. Not saying you're wrong, I just wouldn't trust that article as definitive. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message news:u8K9AjC7IHA.1080@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:7BE64650-5020-4EBC-9A64-77AA02114189@microsoft.com... >> Lil' Dave as far as I understand, USB 2.0 is supported via third parties > with >> 98 Second Edition and natively in Windows ME. Is this correct? >> > > > > > Though USB drivers would be avail for Windows ME & Win98se > It was not supported natively for either > > http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/connect/USB/USB2support.mspx > >> "Lil' Dave" wrote: >> >> > <cccdddrrr@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message >> > news:4596894f-2b01-4faf-a069-0a024bf39b1d@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... >> > > Briefly, I bought Win95 CD and found I got the final release (OEM >> > > Service Release 2.5). I thought that was useful - to get the final >> > > release. >> > > >> > > I'd like to buy Win98. When looking on places like ebay, how can I >> > > tell which is the final version - by squinting at the blurry photos >> > > sellers upload? >> > > >> > > It's interesting - reading wikipedia they say win95 had quite a few >> > > releases, but win98 only had 2. Is this correct?! >> > > >> > > Also, does Win98 (SE version) greatly benefit from applying MS >> > > patches, strictly in terms of stability or useful additional >> > > functionality, and not in terms of security. (I am not interested in >> > > applying security patches to Win98 because I'll never connect this >> > > retro machine to the net.) >> > > >> > > Thanks a lot for any advice. >> > >> > 4 versions of windows 95 that I'm aware of. 95, A, B, and C. The > second 2 >> > support FAT 32 and USB 1.0. >> > >> > 98SE, last version of 98 supports USB 2.0. There is also a patch, if > 98SE >> > is installed, for performance issues that includes firewire as well. > This >> > and other fixes were included in Millenium Edition at the get-go. >> > -- >> > Dave >> > >> > Bailout: Friend, relative, business acquaintance >> > paying a sum to get the accused >> > out of jail until court is ready to proceed. >> > >> > Bailout: U.S. taxpayers paying a sum of >> > money for some critical business failure >> > that was fleecing the taxpayer to begin >> > with. >> > Somehow, the word "bailout" seems >> > very different. >> > >> > >> > > >
Guest MEB Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Re: Windows 98 CD - which was the last one released? It appears USB [the basics] 2.0 WAS supported natively {hub, the basic chips, etc., though updated drivers might have been needed}, but the individual devices may not be [PID and VID, various devices type specifics later defined locally in XP up, e.g., camera specifics, etc. {PnP, UPnP}...]. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message news:u8K9AjC7IHA.1080@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | | "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message | news:7BE64650-5020-4EBC-9A64-77AA02114189@microsoft.com... | > Lil' Dave as far as I understand, USB 2.0 is supported via third parties | with | > 98 Second Edition and natively in Windows ME. Is this correct? | > | | | | | Though USB drivers would be avail for Windows ME & Win98se | It was not supported natively for either | | http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/connect/USB/USB2support.mspx | | > "Lil' Dave" wrote: | > | > > <cccdddrrr@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message | > > news:4596894f-2b01-4faf-a069-0a024bf39b1d@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... | > > > Briefly, I bought Win95 CD and found I got the final release (OEM | > > > Service Release 2.5). I thought that was useful - to get the final | > > > release. | > > > | > > > I'd like to buy Win98. When looking on places like ebay, how can I | > > > tell which is the final version - by squinting at the blurry photos | > > > sellers upload? | > > > | > > > It's interesting - reading wikipedia they say win95 had quite a few | > > > releases, but win98 only had 2. Is this correct?! | > > > | > > > Also, does Win98 (SE version) greatly benefit from applying MS | > > > patches, strictly in terms of stability or useful additional | > > > functionality, and not in terms of security. (I am not interested in | > > > applying security patches to Win98 because I'll never connect this | > > > retro machine to the net.) | > > > | > > > Thanks a lot for any advice. | > > | > > 4 versions of windows 95 that I'm aware of. 95, A, B, and C. The | second 2 | > > support FAT 32 and USB 1.0. | > > | > > 98SE, last version of 98 supports USB 2.0. There is also a patch, if | 98SE | > > is installed, for performance issues that includes firewire as well. | This | > > and other fixes were included in Millenium Edition at the get-go. | > > -- | > > Dave | > > | > > Bailout: Friend, relative, business acquaintance | > > paying a sum to get the accused | > > out of jail until court is ready to proceed. | > > | > > Bailout: U.S. taxpayers paying a sum of | > > money for some critical business failure | > > that was fleecing the taxpayer to begin | > > with. | > > Somehow, the word "bailout" seems | > > very different. | > > | > > | > > | |
Guest cccdddrrr@hotmail.co.uk Posted July 23, 2008 Posted July 23, 2008 Re: Windows 98 CD - which was the last one released? On 21 Jul, 09:08, "MEB" <meb@not h...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Yes, just the two, 98FE {first edition} and SE {Service/Second edition}. > Millennium was the third in the series [cross over to NT].. > > There were several updates which might be applicable for a standard > non-Internet installation [never to connect] dealing with system files > {DCOM, MDAC, GDI, DirectX, JET, etc.], memory, hard drives {size limitations > and tools}, ACPI/APM, shutdown issues, specific fixes for various > BIOS/motherboard problems, and several others. Also some video card drivers > and other will not work properly without some of the upgrades/fixes. > > You MAY also need some of these files depending upon what other > applications you might install, or issues related to problems with your > particular setup and/or computer. If you supply your computer manufacturer > and model, or the motherboard and hard drive/devices used, and intended > application installation/use, we MAY be able to advise on which files might > be crutial or necessary. Thanks very much for all the info, and also to everyone else's replies. My mobo is a PIII based one, with Intel 440BX chipset. I have a modern Samsung IDE hard drive. For graphics, I am currently using a Matrox 450 AGP. Actually, I need to clarify that I have got Win98SE. I just had a feeling that as Win95 was released with lots of different "revisions", that I would have to go hunting for the very final Win98 build. But now I realise I have got the final version, it's SE! Thanks.
Guest Dan Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Re: Windows 98 CD - which was the last one released? Thanks for the feedback, Gary and MEB. "MEB" wrote: > It appears USB [the basics] 2.0 WAS supported natively {hub, the basic > chips, etc., though updated drivers might have been needed}, but the > individual devices may not be [PID and VID, various devices type specifics > later defined locally in XP up, e.g., camera specifics, etc. {PnP, > UPnP}...]. > > -- > MEB > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > -- > _________ > > > > "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message > news:u8K9AjC7IHA.1080@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > | > | "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > | news:7BE64650-5020-4EBC-9A64-77AA02114189@microsoft.com... > | > Lil' Dave as far as I understand, USB 2.0 is supported via third parties > | with > | > 98 Second Edition and natively in Windows ME. Is this correct? > | > > | > | > | > | > | Though USB drivers would be avail for Windows ME & Win98se > | It was not supported natively for either > | > | http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/connect/USB/USB2support.mspx > | > | > "Lil' Dave" wrote: > | > > | > > <cccdddrrr@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > | > > > news:4596894f-2b01-4faf-a069-0a024bf39b1d@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... > | > > > Briefly, I bought Win95 CD and found I got the final release (OEM > | > > > Service Release 2.5). I thought that was useful - to get the final > | > > > release. > | > > > > | > > > I'd like to buy Win98. When looking on places like ebay, how can I > | > > > tell which is the final version - by squinting at the blurry photos > | > > > sellers upload? > | > > > > | > > > It's interesting - reading wikipedia they say win95 had quite a few > | > > > releases, but win98 only had 2. Is this correct?! > | > > > > | > > > Also, does Win98 (SE version) greatly benefit from applying MS > | > > > patches, strictly in terms of stability or useful additional > | > > > functionality, and not in terms of security. (I am not interested > in > | > > > applying security patches to Win98 because I'll never connect this > | > > > retro machine to the net.) > | > > > > | > > > Thanks a lot for any advice. > | > > > | > > 4 versions of windows 95 that I'm aware of. 95, A, B, and C. The > | second 2 > | > > support FAT 32 and USB 1.0. > | > > > | > > 98SE, last version of 98 supports USB 2.0. There is also a patch, if > | 98SE > | > > is installed, for performance issues that includes firewire as well. > | This > | > > and other fixes were included in Millenium Edition at the get-go. > | > > -- > | > > Dave > | > > > | > > Bailout: Friend, relative, business acquaintance > | > > paying a sum to get the accused > | > > out of jail until court is ready to proceed. > | > > > | > > Bailout: U.S. taxpayers paying a sum of > | > > money for some critical business failure > | > > that was fleecing the taxpayer to begin > | > > with. > | > > Somehow, the word "bailout" seems > | > > very different. > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > | > > >
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