XP computer doesn't see Vista computer on network

[Guest Ernie Lane]

I have a home wireless network, a "standard" one: the router is attached to

a desktop (XP) and I have a laptop (Vista) that is wireless. I print using

printer sharing on the desktop, so I know the laptop "sees" the desktop, at

least for that (or is it that the laptop sees the desktop?). That's

confirmed in Network -- on the laptop, I see the deskrop's Documents

,Shared Documents and Printers. However, it doesn't work in the other

direction: nothing on the laptop, not even the laptop itself, shows up.

However, if I click on "view workgroup computers" in Start...My Network

Places on the desktop, the laptop computer is listed. However, if I

double-click on that icon, I get only the Printers and Public folders.

 

I've already installed the Link Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder,

or at least I thought I did. I went through the MS KB document (KB922120),

but when I ran services.msc on the desktop, it wasn't running. Besides, I'm

not sure that service does what I want.

 

I've enabled file sharing, to allow all computers on the network to write to

the Shared Documents folder. However, when I try to save a document there

(from my laptop), it won't let me.

 

Any suggestions?

[Guest Mir Mehdi]

RE: XP computer doesn't see Vista computer on network

 

These are the best steps to find where the problem is....

 

bit long but this can fix many issues with Networking.

 

 

Considering that we are using xp computers on the network (2)

They are connected using a router ( OR MAY BE WITH HUB) but you can always

try in your case too...

 

Computer 1 - windows xp - ip 192.168.0.1 - file system ntfs - guest account

on -

file and printer sharing enabled -new admin

user called "test" with password "test"

Computer 2 - windows xp - ip 192.168.0.2 - file system ntfs - guest account

on -

file and printer sharing enabled -new admin

User called "test" with password "test"

Remove TCP/IP Version 6 and Client service for netware

 

It is best practice to trouble shoot in safe mode with networking

and perform the following steps in all computers

first try the following command that will clear all the cached entires

ipconfig /flushdns

arp -d

 

When try to access a remote computer, you may receive the following error

messages:

 

"....is not accessible. You may not have permission to use this network

resource".

"Access is denied"

"Network path was not found."

 

 

"System Error 5 has occurred"

"System Error 51 has occurred"

"System Error 53 has occurred"

"System error 70 " - Remote server is being paused or being restarted.

 

 

 

a. Have you enabled the sharing? Use net view IP and net share.

b. Do you have the permission issue? Net view displays - System error 5.

c. Do you have firewall issue? Net view will tell it - System error 53.

d. Do you have Computer Browser issue? Net view displays System error 51

 

 

Troubleshooting step by step:

 

 

step 1

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start -run-cmd *

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In dos prompt type in the following command *

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Net view \\ip address of the other computer *

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*

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you may get any one of the following message *

ask the customer to read the entire message *

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"System Error 5 has occurred" - follow step 2 *

"System Error 53 has occurred" -follow step 3 *

"System Error 51 has occurred" -follow step 4 *

"System error 70 " - Remote server is being paused or being restarted.

follow step

number 6.0

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step 2

 

"....is not accessible. You may not have permission to use this network

resource".

"Access is denied"

 

Net view \\ip ="System Error 5 has occurred"

 

if it is windows home perform step 2.1 only then try to access

if it is windows xp professional try step 2.1 and restart and try to access

if you

still have the same issue follow step 2.2

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Step 2.1

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strat run regedit

- HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\LSA

Making "RestrictAnonymous" and ,"restrict anonymous sam"values as 0 and

restart

 

verify the status of the issue,if you still get the same error number

"system error

5"

 

1. Downloaded Windows Server 2003 Resource Kit Tools

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9d467a69-57ff-4ae7-96ee-b18

c4790cffd&displaylang=en

The kit will install on WinXP or later. After installation,

2.click on: Start, All Programs, Windows Resource Kit Tools, Command Shell

Then

enter the following commands. (Attention: they are case sensitive.)

net user guest /active:yes

ntrights +r SeNetworkLogonRight -u Guest

ntrights -r SeDenyNetworkLogonRight -u Guest

 

 

 

step 2.2

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if it is xpp then u have to edit some values in gpedit.msc

Run gpedit.msc

Computer config-windows settings-security settings -local policies-user

rights

assignments

 

1. Access this computer from network

Make sure that the test user is included

Make sure that the everyone user is included

 

2. Deny access to this computer from network

Verify that the test user account is not included

Make sure that the everyone user is not included

 

Computer config-windows settings-local policies-security options

 

1 guest account status

Verify it is enabled

 

2network access -allow anonymous sid/name translation

Make sure it is enabled

 

3network access - do not allow anonymous enumeration of Sam accounts

 

Make sure it is disabled

 

4network access - do not allow anonymous enumeration of Sam accounts and

shares

 

 

Make sure it is disabled

 

5. Network access - let every one permission apply to anonymous users

Make sure it is enabled

 

6. Network access - sharing and security model for local accounts

Make it to classic - local users authenticate as them self

 

7.right click the specific folder or drive

properties - sharing tab

here you can see the share name and you can see the permissions tab

click on permissions tab select every one check the box full control click

apply ok

ok and restart the system

 

 

AFTER MAKING CHANFES IN GPEDIT

CLICK START RUN AND ENTER THE COMMAND GPUPDATE OR RESTART THE COMPUTER AND

VERIFY

 

verify the status of the issue,if you still get the same error number

"system error

5"

 

1. Downloaded Windows Server 2003 Resource Kit Tools

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9d467a69-57ff-4ae7-96ee-b18

c4790cffd&displaylang=en

The kit will install on WinXP or later. After installation,

2.click on: Start, All Programs, Windows Resource Kit Tools, Command Shell

Then

enter the following commands. (Attention: they are case sensitive.)

net user guest /active:yes

ntrights +r SeNetworkLogonRight -u Guest

ntrights -r SeDenyNetworkLogonRight -u Guest

 

FYI -issue with user rights and permission

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step 3

 

 

Network path not found

Run \\com1 or \\192.168.0.1 - network path not found

Ping com 1 = net work path not found or request timed out

Net view \\ipaddress of the other computer = access denied "system error 53 "

 

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Reboot in safe mode with networking and try to access the network (

eliminating 3rd

party firewall )

Disable windows firewall and stop the security centre service ( if we have

sp2

)

right click LAN icon in network connections go to advanced tab and disable

the fire

wall if it is enabled (SP1)

suggest the customer to uninstall any fire wall or antivirus software

 

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Step 4

 

net view \\ip address of the other computer = "System error 51 has occurred"

 

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If you can net view IP while net view \\hostname gives you "System error 51

has

occurred" and "windows cannot find the *network path", you may have the

computer

browser issue. 1. Make sure the Computer Browser is running or stop and

verify

 

 

unable to open computer using \\computer name from other computer

try

ipconfig /flushdns

arp -d

 

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step 5

 

some times you can not access some specific folder from network

either you may get access denied or network path not found

however you can see that folder if you use \\computername in run or by using

net

view \\ ipaddress of the other computer

and let us assume that the folder is in c:

 

 

giving ( full ) permissions to every one

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right click local disk c: click properties and check what is the type of file

system

 

If the file system is ntfs follow step 5.2

if it is not ntfs follow step 5.4

 

 

step 5.2

 

right click local disk c: click properties

 

if you can not see security tab follow step 5.3

 

if you can see the securtiy tab follow the steps

right click local disk c: click properties - click security

click every one

check the box full control

click advanced - check the box - replace permission entries on all child

objects

with entries shown here that apply to child object

click apply ok- ok - ok and restart

 

step 5.3 ( if you can not see security tab) )

open my computer - tools - folder options - view - advanced settings- last

item -

enable simple file sharing - uncheck the box

now you can see the security tab or restart the system in safe mode with

networking - you can see the security tab

click security

click every one

check the box full control

click advanced - check the box - replace permission entries on all child

objects

with entries shown here that apply to child object

click apply ok- ok - ok and restart

 

 

 

5.4

right click the specific folder or drive

properties - sharing tab

here you can see the share name and you can see the permissions tab

click on permissions tab select every one check the box full control click

apply ok

ok and restart the system

 

 

 

 

 

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OTHER ISSUES

step 6.0

 

\\computername is not accessible. You might not have permissions to use this

network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if

you have

access permission. a network path was not found

 

net view \\ip address gives "system error 70" -

 

hKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\NetBT\Parameters. check

the

value of DhcpNodeType and change it to 4 or 8

 

check the active lan connection for any bridge

 

 

Some times when ever you are trying to access a shared resource it may ask

for a

password. Where the user name box is grayed out

if simple file sharing is disabled you may get this message - enable simple

file

sharing you may get rid of issue

or

To resolve this issue remove the password for the guest account in the target

computer

(Where the resource is shared)

 

You may try to change the value in regedit

Hkey_local_machine\system\current control set \control\lsa - force guest -

enable

by giving the value as 1 or disable by giving the value as 0

 

 

network performance is slow try

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1.add the other computer's ip address in the lmhost file

 

2. Modify the provider order such that "Microsoft Windows Network" is listed

first.

 

1. Right click "My Network Places", choose "Properties" 2.

Advanced...Advanced

Settings... 3. Provider Order 4. Select "Microsoft Windows Network" and move

it to

the top by clicking the move up arrow

 

3. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\AFD\Parameters] and

set

the following key values to the values shown.

"TransmitWorker"=dword:00000010

"PriorityBoost"=dword:0000000a

 

4.1. Open up regedit.

2. Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current

Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace.

3. Find a key named {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF}.

4. Right click on it and delete it.

5. Restart

 

 

--

Mir Sajjad Mehdi

Microsoft XP Platform Support

 

 

"Ernie Lane" wrote:

> I have a home wireless network, a "standard" one: the router is attached to

> a desktop (XP) and I have a laptop (Vista) that is wireless. I print using

> printer sharing on the desktop, so I know the laptop "sees" the desktop, at

> least for that (or is it that the laptop sees the desktop?). That's

> confirmed in Network -- on the laptop, I see the deskrop's Documents

> ,Shared Documents and Printers. However, it doesn't work in the other

> direction: nothing on the laptop, not even the laptop itself, shows up.

> However, if I click on "view workgroup computers" in Start...My Network

> Places on the desktop, the laptop computer is listed. However, if I

> double-click on that icon, I get only the Printers and Public folders.

>

> I've already installed the Link Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder,

> or at least I thought I did. I went through the MS KB document (KB922120),

> but when I ran services.msc on the desktop, it wasn't running. Besides, I'm

> not sure that service does what I want.

>

> I've enabled file sharing, to allow all computers on the network to write to

> the Shared Documents folder. However, when I try to save a document there

> (from my laptop), it won't let me.

>

> Any suggestions?