Guest Phillip944 Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 If you install a new video card without removing the old one, will the system crash? Just curious.
Guest db.·.. > Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Re: Two video cards yes because even though your monitor is plugged into one of them, the old card is still being registered by your operating system. some bio's allow you to disable unwanted port via the bios. but frankly speaking it is not worth then time or trouble to have any unwanted unused components installed. make your pc life problem free and simply toss out the old card into the "green" bin. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5A097DCD-E2B0-4137-9792-748499F6BA27@microsoft.com... > If you install a new video > card without removing the > old one, will the system > crash? > > Just curious.
Guest millerj Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 RE: Two video cards I've added a second video card and had no problems. the system automatically disabled the old one (because it was integrated). "Phillip944" wrote: > If you install a new video card without removing the old one, will the system > crash? > > Just curious.
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Re: Two video cards On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:33:01 -0700, Phillip944 <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > If you install a new video card without removing the old one, will the system > crash? No. In fact, many people have two video cards installed to provide support for multiple monitors. One of my XP machines here has two video cards (although it presently has only a single monitor installed) -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Re: Two video cards "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5A097DCD-E2B0-4137-9792-748499F6BA27@microsoft.com... > If you install a new video card without removing the old one, will the > system > crash? > > Just curious. The answer is that the result depends on the system, but having two cards is a common configuration. Some systems have special requirements for use of two cards, and if those aren't met rather than crash, one card may not work or the system may not boot. Some cards don't like to see another specific card or brand of card in the same system and that can also lead to problems. HTH -pk
Guest db.·.. > Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Re: Two video cards - II Re: Two video cards - II incidentally, another point that should be considered is that having unused components installed only increases the probability that they will become faulty or outdated and will cause your system to become unstable. at which time you will spend a great deal of time doing virus checks, spyware checks, etc.. because you had forgotten about the unused components. therefore you really should help your self and your system and realize that there is absolutely no point in having components installed on your system that no longer serve a useful purpose. such unused components, until they become faulty simply reduce your system resources as well. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:uuEXC%23B7IHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > yes because even > though your monitor > is plugged into one > of them, the old card > is still being registered > by your operating system. > > some bio's allow you to > disable unwanted port > via the bios. > > but frankly speaking it is > not worth then time or > trouble to have any unwanted > unused components > installed. > > make your pc life problem > free and simply toss out the > old card into the "green" > bin. > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > > "Phillip944" > <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> > wrote in message > news:5A097DCD-E2B0-4137-9792-748499F6BA27@microsoft.com... >> If you install a new video >> card without removing the >> old one, will the system >> crash? >> >> Just curious. >
Guest Phillip944 Posted July 23, 2008 Posted July 23, 2008 Re: Two video cards A few weeks ago, my HP started freezing & blue screening. Then it was difficult to boot up... beeps & black screens. After researching my brains out, I narrowed it down to a graphics card issue. I installed an ATI Radeon HD 3650, but never removed the original card. The booting problem was never resolved. So, I received recovery CD's from HP yesterday. I am going to do a recovery this evening. Hopefully, this will do it. What do you think. "Patrick Keenan" wrote: > "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:5A097DCD-E2B0-4137-9792-748499F6BA27@microsoft.com... > > If you install a new video card without removing the old one, will the > > system > > crash? > > > > Just curious. > > The answer is that the result depends on the system, but having two cards is > a common configuration. > > Some systems have special requirements for use of two cards, and if those > aren't met rather than crash, one card may not work or the system may not > boot. Some cards don't like to see another specific card or brand of card > in the same system and that can also lead to problems. > > HTH > -pk > >
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted July 23, 2008 Posted July 23, 2008 Re: Two video cards "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7411CAC4-FE16-49A2-9D70-369F30E32368@microsoft.com... >A few weeks ago, my HP started freezing & blue screening. Then it was > difficult to boot up... beeps & black screens. After researching my > brains > out, I narrowed it down to a graphics card issue. I installed an ATI > Radeon > HD 3650, but never removed the original card. The booting problem was > never > resolved. So, I received recovery CD's from HP yesterday. I am going to > do > a recovery this evening. Hopefully, this will do it. > > What do you think. Beeps and black screens at boot mean it doesn't have anything to do with Windows, it's a hardware incompatibility or failure at a very low level. The beeps are error codes from the BIOS, and those you hear before the PC even knows that there's an OS installed. Remove all non-essential hardware, and start from there. If it doesn't boot reliably, consider motherboard problems, which will require replacement. HTH -pk > "Patrick Keenan" wrote: > >> "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:5A097DCD-E2B0-4137-9792-748499F6BA27@microsoft.com... >> > If you install a new video card without removing the old one, will the >> > system >> > crash? >> > >> > Just curious. >> >> The answer is that the result depends on the system, but having two cards >> is >> a common configuration. >> >> Some systems have special requirements for use of two cards, and if those >> aren't met rather than crash, one card may not work or the system may not >> boot. Some cards don't like to see another specific card or brand of >> card >> in the same system and that can also lead to problems. >> >> HTH >> -pk >> >>
Guest Phillip944 Posted July 23, 2008 Posted July 23, 2008 Re: Two video cards I understand what you're saying, and really appreciate your input. However, the one thing I don't get is... why would the computer boot up, work for 10-20 minutes, then freeze, reboot or blue screen? After that... when I hit the power button, the beeping starts. No codes, just continuous beeping. It's driving me crazy!! "Patrick Keenan" wrote: > "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:7411CAC4-FE16-49A2-9D70-369F30E32368@microsoft.com... > >A few weeks ago, my HP started freezing & blue screening. Then it was > > difficult to boot up... beeps & black screens. After researching my > > brains > > out, I narrowed it down to a graphics card issue. I installed an ATI > > Radeon > > HD 3650, but never removed the original card. The booting problem was > > never > > resolved. So, I received recovery CD's from HP yesterday. I am going to > > do > > a recovery this evening. Hopefully, this will do it. > > > > What do you think. > > Beeps and black screens at boot mean it doesn't have anything to do with > Windows, it's a hardware incompatibility or failure at a very low level. > The beeps are error codes from the BIOS, and those you hear before the PC > even knows that there's an OS installed. > > Remove all non-essential hardware, and start from there. If it doesn't > boot reliably, consider motherboard problems, which will require > replacement. > > HTH > -pk > > > > "Patrick Keenan" wrote: > > > >> "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:5A097DCD-E2B0-4137-9792-748499F6BA27@microsoft.com... > >> > If you install a new video card without removing the old one, will the > >> > system > >> > crash? > >> > > >> > Just curious. > >> > >> The answer is that the result depends on the system, but having two cards > >> is > >> a common configuration. > >> > >> Some systems have special requirements for use of two cards, and if those > >> aren't met rather than crash, one card may not work or the system may not > >> boot. Some cards don't like to see another specific card or brand of > >> card > >> in the same system and that can also lead to problems. > >> > >> HTH > >> -pk > >> > >> > >
Guest R. McCarty Posted July 23, 2008 Posted July 23, 2008 Re: Two video cards You could have a condition of a open trace due to heat. On circuit boards there are interconnections or runs where the signals travel. If you have a component that has a "Cracked" trace as the board heats up the trace actually opens and breaks the circuit. This could cause the BSOD, abrupt halts and the BIOS beep codes. When the PC is first powered on the trace is cooler and the connection in the run is completed and not open. "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5217BBE3-15AF-480F-A6C7-9CE1EF84D296@microsoft.com... >I understand what you're saying, and really appreciate your input. >However, > the one thing I don't get is... why would the computer boot up, work for > 10-20 minutes, then freeze, reboot or blue screen? After that... when I > hit > the power button, the beeping starts. No codes, just continuous beeping. > It's driving me crazy!! > > > "Patrick Keenan" wrote: > >> "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:7411CAC4-FE16-49A2-9D70-369F30E32368@microsoft.com... >> >A few weeks ago, my HP started freezing & blue screening. Then it was >> > difficult to boot up... beeps & black screens. After researching my >> > brains >> > out, I narrowed it down to a graphics card issue. I installed an ATI >> > Radeon >> > HD 3650, but never removed the original card. The booting problem was >> > never >> > resolved. So, I received recovery CD's from HP yesterday. I am going >> > to >> > do >> > a recovery this evening. Hopefully, this will do it. >> > >> > What do you think. >> >> Beeps and black screens at boot mean it doesn't have anything to do with >> Windows, it's a hardware incompatibility or failure at a very low level. >> The beeps are error codes from the BIOS, and those you hear before the PC >> even knows that there's an OS installed. >> >> Remove all non-essential hardware, and start from there. If it doesn't >> boot reliably, consider motherboard problems, which will require >> replacement. >> >> HTH >> -pk >> >> >> > "Patrick Keenan" wrote: >> > >> >> "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:5A097DCD-E2B0-4137-9792-748499F6BA27@microsoft.com... >> >> > If you install a new video card without removing the old one, will >> >> > the >> >> > system >> >> > crash? >> >> > >> >> > Just curious. >> >> >> >> The answer is that the result depends on the system, but having two >> >> cards >> >> is >> >> a common configuration. >> >> >> >> Some systems have special requirements for use of two cards, and if >> >> those >> >> aren't met rather than crash, one card may not work or the system may >> >> not >> >> boot. Some cards don't like to see another specific card or brand of >> >> card >> >> in the same system and that can also lead to problems. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> -pk >> >> >> >> >> >>
Guest Unknown Posted July 23, 2008 Posted July 23, 2008 Re: Two video cards That is an indication of a heat problem. Checked your fans? "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5217BBE3-15AF-480F-A6C7-9CE1EF84D296@microsoft.com... >I understand what you're saying, and really appreciate your input. >However, > the one thing I don't get is... why would the computer boot up, work for > 10-20 minutes, then freeze, reboot or blue screen? After that... when I > hit > the power button, the beeping starts. No codes, just continuous beeping. > It's driving me crazy!! > > > "Patrick Keenan" wrote: > >> "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:7411CAC4-FE16-49A2-9D70-369F30E32368@microsoft.com... >> >A few weeks ago, my HP started freezing & blue screening. Then it was >> > difficult to boot up... beeps & black screens. After researching my >> > brains >> > out, I narrowed it down to a graphics card issue. I installed an ATI >> > Radeon >> > HD 3650, but never removed the original card. The booting problem was >> > never >> > resolved. So, I received recovery CD's from HP yesterday. I am going >> > to >> > do >> > a recovery this evening. Hopefully, this will do it. >> > >> > What do you think. >> >> Beeps and black screens at boot mean it doesn't have anything to do with >> Windows, it's a hardware incompatibility or failure at a very low level. >> The beeps are error codes from the BIOS, and those you hear before the PC >> even knows that there's an OS installed. >> >> Remove all non-essential hardware, and start from there. If it doesn't >> boot reliably, consider motherboard problems, which will require >> replacement. >> >> HTH >> -pk >> >> >> > "Patrick Keenan" wrote: >> > >> >> "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:5A097DCD-E2B0-4137-9792-748499F6BA27@microsoft.com... >> >> > If you install a new video card without removing the old one, will >> >> > the >> >> > system >> >> > crash? >> >> > >> >> > Just curious. >> >> >> >> The answer is that the result depends on the system, but having two >> >> cards >> >> is >> >> a common configuration. >> >> >> >> Some systems have special requirements for use of two cards, and if >> >> those >> >> aren't met rather than crash, one card may not work or the system may >> >> not >> >> boot. Some cards don't like to see another specific card or brand of >> >> card >> >> in the same system and that can also lead to problems. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> -pk >> >> >> >> >> >>
Guest Phillip944 Posted July 23, 2008 Posted July 23, 2008 Re: Two video cards Fans are running. "Unknown" wrote: > That is an indication of a heat problem. Checked your fans? > "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:5217BBE3-15AF-480F-A6C7-9CE1EF84D296@microsoft.com... > >I understand what you're saying, and really appreciate your input. > >However, > > the one thing I don't get is... why would the computer boot up, work for > > 10-20 minutes, then freeze, reboot or blue screen? After that... when I > > hit > > the power button, the beeping starts. No codes, just continuous beeping. > > It's driving me crazy!! > > > > > > "Patrick Keenan" wrote: > > > >> "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:7411CAC4-FE16-49A2-9D70-369F30E32368@microsoft.com... > >> >A few weeks ago, my HP started freezing & blue screening. Then it was > >> > difficult to boot up... beeps & black screens. After researching my > >> > brains > >> > out, I narrowed it down to a graphics card issue. I installed an ATI > >> > Radeon > >> > HD 3650, but never removed the original card. The booting problem was > >> > never > >> > resolved. So, I received recovery CD's from HP yesterday. I am going > >> > to > >> > do > >> > a recovery this evening. Hopefully, this will do it. > >> > > >> > What do you think. > >> > >> Beeps and black screens at boot mean it doesn't have anything to do with > >> Windows, it's a hardware incompatibility or failure at a very low level. > >> The beeps are error codes from the BIOS, and those you hear before the PC > >> even knows that there's an OS installed. > >> > >> Remove all non-essential hardware, and start from there. If it doesn't > >> boot reliably, consider motherboard problems, which will require > >> replacement. > >> > >> HTH > >> -pk > >> > >> > >> > "Patrick Keenan" wrote: > >> > > >> >> "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:5A097DCD-E2B0-4137-9792-748499F6BA27@microsoft.com... > >> >> > If you install a new video card without removing the old one, will > >> >> > the > >> >> > system > >> >> > crash? > >> >> > > >> >> > Just curious. > >> >> > >> >> The answer is that the result depends on the system, but having two > >> >> cards > >> >> is > >> >> a common configuration. > >> >> > >> >> Some systems have special requirements for use of two cards, and if > >> >> those > >> >> aren't met rather than crash, one card may not work or the system may > >> >> not > >> >> boot. Some cards don't like to see another specific card or brand of > >> >> card > >> >> in the same system and that can also lead to problems. > >> >> > >> >> HTH > >> >> -pk > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > > >
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 Re: Two video cards "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5217BBE3-15AF-480F-A6C7-9CE1EF84D296@microsoft.com... >I understand what you're saying, and really appreciate your input. >However, > the one thing I don't get is... why would the computer boot up, work for > 10-20 minutes, then freeze, reboot or blue screen? After that... when I > hit > the power button, the beeping starts. No codes, just continuous beeping. > It's driving me crazy!! Hardware failure. This is extremely difficult to track down without expensive test gear and a full set of replacement parts and a lot of time and specialized knowledge. You can try removing all non-essential components and detaching all peripherals except for keyboard, monitor and mouse. Remove that second card. If the problem persists, you know that none of those components are at fault, and you're probably looking at motherboard, processor, or memory defect or damage. Again, it will be difficult to identify what component is failing. You may find that you come to the point where you should look at replacing the system. As an option, you may well find that used HP 3gHz P4 systems can be had for a little over $200. HTH -pk > > "Patrick Keenan" wrote: > >> "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:7411CAC4-FE16-49A2-9D70-369F30E32368@microsoft.com... >> >A few weeks ago, my HP started freezing & blue screening. Then it was >> > difficult to boot up... beeps & black screens. After researching my >> > brains >> > out, I narrowed it down to a graphics card issue. I installed an ATI >> > Radeon >> > HD 3650, but never removed the original card. The booting problem was >> > never >> > resolved. So, I received recovery CD's from HP yesterday. I am going >> > to >> > do >> > a recovery this evening. Hopefully, this will do it. >> > >> > What do you think. >> >> Beeps and black screens at boot mean it doesn't have anything to do with >> Windows, it's a hardware incompatibility or failure at a very low level. >> The beeps are error codes from the BIOS, and those you hear before the PC >> even knows that there's an OS installed. >> >> Remove all non-essential hardware, and start from there. If it doesn't >> boot reliably, consider motherboard problems, which will require >> replacement. >> >> HTH >> -pk >> >> >> > "Patrick Keenan" wrote: >> > >> >> "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:5A097DCD-E2B0-4137-9792-748499F6BA27@microsoft.com... >> >> > If you install a new video card without removing the old one, will >> >> > the >> >> > system >> >> > crash? >> >> > >> >> > Just curious. >> >> >> >> The answer is that the result depends on the system, but having two >> >> cards >> >> is >> >> a common configuration. >> >> >> >> Some systems have special requirements for use of two cards, and if >> >> those >> >> aren't met rather than crash, one card may not work or the system may >> >> not >> >> boot. Some cards don't like to see another specific card or brand of >> >> card >> >> in the same system and that can also lead to problems. >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> -pk >> >> >> >> >> >>
Guest AJR Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 Re: Two video cards Regarding "... No codes, just continuous beeping. It's driving me crazy!!..." - the beeping is the code - for instance "one" short beep on boot means the power on test pased - something like "3" short and "1' long beep - no keyboard. Google ( or the BIOS site) for deciphering . "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message news:%23QFmfgB8IHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:5217BBE3-15AF-480F-A6C7-9CE1EF84D296@microsoft.com... >>I understand what you're saying, and really appreciate your input. >>However, >> the one thing I don't get is... why would the computer boot up, work for >> 10-20 minutes, then freeze, reboot or blue screen? After that... when I >> hit >> the power button, the beeping starts. No codes, just continuous beeping. >> It's driving me crazy!! > > Hardware failure. This is extremely difficult to track down without > expensive test gear and a full set of replacement parts and a lot of time > and specialized knowledge. > > You can try removing all non-essential components and detaching all > peripherals except for keyboard, monitor and mouse. Remove that second > card. If the problem persists, you know that none of those components are > at fault, and you're probably looking at motherboard, processor, or memory > defect or damage. Again, it will be difficult to identify what > component is failing. > > You may find that you come to the point where you should look at replacing > the system. As an option, you may well find that used HP 3gHz P4 > systems can be had for a little over $200. > > HTH > -pk > > >> >> "Patrick Keenan" wrote: >> >>> "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:7411CAC4-FE16-49A2-9D70-369F30E32368@microsoft.com... >>> >A few weeks ago, my HP started freezing & blue screening. Then it was >>> > difficult to boot up... beeps & black screens. After researching my >>> > brains >>> > out, I narrowed it down to a graphics card issue. I installed an ATI >>> > Radeon >>> > HD 3650, but never removed the original card. The booting problem was >>> > never >>> > resolved. So, I received recovery CD's from HP yesterday. I am going >>> > to >>> > do >>> > a recovery this evening. Hopefully, this will do it. >>> > >>> > What do you think. >>> >>> Beeps and black screens at boot mean it doesn't have anything to do with >>> Windows, it's a hardware incompatibility or failure at a very low level. >>> The beeps are error codes from the BIOS, and those you hear before the >>> PC >>> even knows that there's an OS installed. >>> >>> Remove all non-essential hardware, and start from there. If it >>> doesn't >>> boot reliably, consider motherboard problems, which will require >>> replacement. >>> >>> HTH >>> -pk >>> >>> >>> > "Patrick Keenan" wrote: >>> > >>> >> "Phillip944" <Phillip944@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> >> news:5A097DCD-E2B0-4137-9792-748499F6BA27@microsoft.com... >>> >> > If you install a new video card without removing the old one, will >>> >> > the >>> >> > system >>> >> > crash? >>> >> > >>> >> > Just curious. >>> >> >>> >> The answer is that the result depends on the system, but having two >>> >> cards >>> >> is >>> >> a common configuration. >>> >> >>> >> Some systems have special requirements for use of two cards, and if >>> >> those >>> >> aren't met rather than crash, one card may not work or the system may >>> >> not >>> >> boot. Some cards don't like to see another specific card or brand >>> >> of >>> >> card >>> >> in the same system and that can also lead to problems. >>> >> >>> >> HTH >>> >> -pk >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> >
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