Guest John Davis Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 Hello: First, the batery indicator light and the two adjacent lights (one for power, the other, the processor) were flashing on and off. Then, my computer cut off while I was using it. The screen didn't go black; rather, I heard a whistle noise of sorts, whereupon a blue screen came up (a screen that looked something like the screen you see when you start Windows in safe mode, but not exactly that screen). I think I just shut down at that point by holding the power button down. Next, I tried to turn the computer on without its being plugged in. Absolutely no power from the battery. So I removed the battery. Then I started it again, plugged in of course. This time it worked for a while. I put it in hibernate mode, which I frequently do. Yet, the next time I started it, I got a black screen with a message like "HDD error." Now, still unable to get Windows, I'm getting the following message: "No bootable devices, strike F1 to retry boot. When I do this, it says "No boot sector on internal hard drive." Obviously, I'd like to know what I can do in order to reslove this problem. At a minimum, I'd like to be able to transfer the files in the MyPictures and the MyDocuments folders to another device. I'll quote some tips I got from an article by Bill Husted. I do have the Windows installation CD. Do you think his tips would work for me? "Here's what happened: I was happily killing hydras as I played my favorite computer game. Next thing you know, I was staring at the dreaded blue screen of death — a suitable name for any video game disaster. But this was no game. It was a warning from Windows of a dangerous error that brought my PC to a dead stop. At first I didn't worry. Stuff happens, even stuff this drastic. Even the text of the error message notes that by saying to just restart the PC if the error isn't one that is frequently encountered. It wasn't a frequent problem, so I did restart. Or tried to. The blue screen of death greeted me again. Now, here's what you should do if that happens to you. In most cases, it'll fix the problem: Use the Windows installation CD to restart the computer. You'll eventually get to a screen that offers the opportunity to press the "r" key to get to the Windows Recovery console. Once there, you can type this command: chkdsk/p I've used this technique before with great success. Errors on the hard disk are located and fixed and you're up and running again. Not this time. The new error message, paraphrased, was that I had one or more unrecoverable errors on my hard disk. I had an unmountable boot disk. That sounds like a medical condition, but it just means Windows can't use the hard disk to start the machine." Thank you for your assistance. John
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 Re: Laptop with windows XP won't start up. Need help for fix/save. "John Davis" <noman@nowoman.invalid> wrote in message news:e%23WLgvc7IHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > Hello: > > First, the batery indicator light and the two adjacent lights (one for > power, the other, the processor) were flashing on and off. > > Then, my computer cut off while I was using it. The screen didn't go > black; rather, I heard a whistle noise of sorts, whereupon a blue screen > came up (a screen that looked something like the screen you see when you > start Windows in safe mode, but not exactly that screen). I think I just > shut down at that point by holding the power button down. Next, I tried to > turn the computer on without its being plugged in. Absolutely no power > from the battery. So I removed the battery. Then I started it again, > plugged in of course. This time it worked for a while. I put it in > hibernate mode, which I frequently do. Yet, the next time I started it, I > got a black screen with a message like "HDD error." > > Now, still unable to get Windows, I'm getting the following message: "No > bootable devices, strike F1 to retry boot. When I do this, it says "No > boot sector on internal hard drive." > > Obviously, I'd like to know what I can do in order to reslove this > problem. At a minimum, I'd like to be able to transfer the files in the > MyPictures and the MyDocuments folders to another device. > > I'll quote some tips I got from an article by Bill Husted. I do have the > Windows installation CD. Do you think his tips would work for me? > > "Here's what happened: I was happily killing hydras as I played my > favorite computer game. Next thing you know, I was staring at the dreaded > blue screen of death - a suitable name for any video game disaster. But > this was no game. It was a warning from Windows of a dangerous error that > brought my PC to a dead stop. > At first I didn't worry. Stuff happens, even stuff this drastic. Even the > text of the error message notes that by saying to just restart the PC if > the error isn't one that is frequently encountered. It wasn't a frequent > problem, so I did restart. Or tried to. The blue screen of death greeted > me again. > > Now, here's what you should do if that happens to you. In most cases, > it'll fix the problem: > > Use the Windows installation CD to restart the computer. You'll eventually > get to a screen that offers the opportunity to press the "r" key to get to > the Windows Recovery console. Once there, you can type this command: > chkdsk/p > > I've used this technique before with great success. Errors on the hard > disk are located and fixed and you're up and running again. > > Not this time. > > The new error message, paraphrased, was that I had one or more > unrecoverable errors on my hard disk. I had an unmountable boot disk. That > sounds like a medical condition, but it just means Windows can't use the > hard disk to start the machine." > > Thank you for your assistance. > > John > It sounds as if your hard disk has bitten the dust. If so then your only chance of recovering your files is from your backup. If you haven't got any backups then this disaster may be the tuition fee you have to pay for learning that all important files must reside on at least two independent media. To see if your hard disk is still useable, remove it from the laptop and install it in an external 2.5" USB case. You can now connect this case to any Windows XP PC to check your files. Later on you can use the same case plus a 2.5" hard disk as your backup device. You'll be surprised how little it costs and how effective it is. Removing a hard disk from a laptop is child's play with some laptops and fiendishly difficult with others. Ask your friendly computer dealer if you get stuck.
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 Re: Laptop with windows XP won't start up. Need help for fix/save. "John Davis" <noman@nowoman.invalid> wrote in message news:e%23WLgvc7IHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > Hello: > > First, the batery indicator light and the two adjacent lights (one for > power, the other, the processor) were flashing on and off. > > Then, my computer cut off while I was using it. The screen didn't go > black; rather, I heard a whistle noise of sorts, whereupon a blue screen > came up (a screen that looked something like the screen you see when you > start Windows in safe mode, but not exactly that screen). I think I just > shut down at that point by holding the power button down. Next, I tried to > turn the computer on without its being plugged in. Absolutely no power > from the battery. So I removed the battery. Then I started it again, > plugged in of course. This time it worked for a while. I put it in > hibernate mode, which I frequently do. Yet, the next time I started it, I > got a black screen with a message like "HDD error." > > Now, still unable to get Windows, I'm getting the following message: "No > bootable devices, strike F1 to retry boot. When I do this, it says "No > boot sector on internal hard drive." > > Obviously, I'd like to know what I can do in order to reslove this > problem. At a minimum, I'd like to be able to transfer the files in the > MyPictures and the MyDocuments folders to another device. > > I'll quote some tips I got from an article by Bill Husted. I do have the > Windows installation CD. Do you think his tips would work for me? > > "Here's what happened: I was happily killing hydras as I played my > favorite computer game. Next thing you know, I was staring at the dreaded > blue screen of death - a suitable name for any video game disaster. But > this was no game. It was a warning from Windows of a dangerous error that > brought my PC to a dead stop. > At first I didn't worry. Stuff happens, even stuff this drastic. Even the > text of the error message notes that by saying to just restart the PC if > the error isn't one that is frequently encountered. It wasn't a frequent > problem, so I did restart. Or tried to. The blue screen of death greeted > me again. > > Now, here's what you should do if that happens to you. In most cases, > it'll fix the problem: > > Use the Windows installation CD to restart the computer. You'll eventually > get to a screen that offers the opportunity to press the "r" key to get to > the Windows Recovery console. Once there, you can type this command: > chkdsk/p > > I've used this technique before with great success. Errors on the hard > disk are located and fixed and you're up and running again. > > Not this time. > > The new error message, paraphrased, was that I had one or more > unrecoverable errors on my hard disk. I had an unmountable boot disk. That > sounds like a medical condition, but it just means Windows can't use the > hard disk to start the machine." > > Thank you for your assistance. > > John This is hardware failure, not a Windows problem. You should attach the drive to another system and try to scrape the data off, but it's very likely that you need at least a new hard disk. HTH -pk
Guest John Davis Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 Re: Laptop with windows XP won't start up. Need help for fix/save. Dear Pegasus: Thank you for your reply. How do I find information on removing the hard drive from my laptop? I have a Dell Inspiron 6000, if that would be of any assistance. John
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 Re: Laptop with windows XP won't start up. Need help for fix/save. "John Davis" <noman@nowoman.invalid> wrote in message news:uqUPC%23c7IHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Dear Pegasus: > > Thank you for your reply. How do I find information on removing the hard > drive from my laptop? I have a Dell Inspiron 6000, if that would be of any > assistance. > > John I would check the Dell home page, looking for "Support". Some laptop manufacturers (e.g. IBM) include complete manuals for disassembly. If unsuccessful, start a new thread and put the words "How to remove the hard disk from a Dell Inspiron 6000" into the Subject line. I suppose you've checked the manual that came with your laptop?
Guest Daave Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 Re: Laptop with windows XP won't start up. Need help for fix/save. "John Davis" <noman@nowoman.invalid> wrote in message news:uqUPC%23c7IHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Dear Pegasus: > > Thank you for your reply. How do I find information on removing the > hard drive from my laptop? I have a Dell Inspiron 6000, if that would > be of any assistance. Look here: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins6000/en/sm/hdd0.htm#wp1130375
Guest John Davis Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 Re: Laptop with windows XP won't start up. Need help for fix/save. Thanks so much, gentlemen. Now, where do I find instructions for installing the hard drive in the 2.5" USB case? Also, is there any particular reason that you didn't recommend for me to follow columnist Bill Husted's advice? I'll post it again, just for good measure: I was staring at the dreaded blue screen of death - a suitable name for any video game disaster. But this was no game. It was a warning from Windows of a dangerous error that brought my PC to a dead stop. At first I didn't worry. Stuff happens, even stuff this drastic. Even the text of the error message notes that by saying to just restart the PC if the error isn't one that is frequently encountered. It wasn't a frequent problem, so I did restart. Or tried to. The blue screen of death greeted me again. Now, here's what you should do if that happens to you. In most cases, it'll fix the problem: Use the Windows installation CD to restart the computer. You'll eventually get to a screen that offers the opportunity to press the "r" key to get to the Windows Recovery console. Once there, you can type this command: chkdsk/p
Guest John Davis Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 Re: Laptop with windows XP won't start up. Need help for fix/save. Gentlemen: I started a new thread. You no longer should respond to this topic. Thank you.
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 Re: Laptop with windows XP won't start up. Need help for fix/save. "John Davis" <noman@nowoman.invalid> wrote in message news:OeTOKkd7IHA.2260@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Thanks so much, gentlemen. > > Now, where do I find instructions for installing the hard drive in the > 2.5" USB case? > > Also, is there any particular reason that you didn't recommend for me to > follow columnist Bill Husted's advice? I'll post it again, just for good > measure: > > I was staring at the dreaded blue screen > of death - a suitable name for any video game disaster. But this was no > game. It was a warning from Windows of a dangerous error that brought my > PC > to a dead stop. > At first I didn't worry. Stuff happens, even stuff this drastic. Even the > text of the error message notes that by saying to just restart the PC if > the > error isn't one that is frequently encountered. It wasn't a frequent > problem, so I did restart. Or tried to. The blue screen of death greeted > me > again. > > Now, here's what you should do if that happens to you. In most cases, > it'll > fix the problem: > > Use the Windows installation CD to restart the computer. You'll eventually > get to a screen that offers the opportunity to press the "r" key to get to > the Windows Recovery console. Once there, you can type this command: > chkdsk/p There is an excellent reason why you should not follow Bill's advice. Since you do not appear to have a backup of your data, you must avoid at all costs making a bad situation worse. Any manipulation of your disk could cause a total loss of all data. Bill's advice may be fine when trying to repair a Windows installation but it is inappropriate when dealing with data that is not backed up. Until you have a good, solid back-up, you must play it safe. Try Bill's advice later on if you wish.
Guest John Davis Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 Re: Laptop with windows XP won't start up. Need help for fix/save. OK, I'll try yours first.
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 Re: Laptop with windows XP won't start up. Need help for fix/save. "John Davis" <noman@nowoman.invalid> wrote in message news:OeTOKkd7IHA.2260@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Thanks so much, gentlemen. > > Now, where do I find instructions for installing the hard drive in the > 2.5" USB case? Very few are needed. They plug together, then you use a small phillips screwdriver. Get the case that matches your drive, by which I mean IDE or SATA. Laptop dive cases come with a three-headed cable as the power draw of a hard disk can be an amp, and a single USB port draws half that. Plug the larger ends into two separate ports, then attach the drive. That's pretty much all you need to know. > > Also, is there any particular reason that you didn't recommend for me to > follow columnist Bill Husted's advice? I'll post it again, just for good > measure: The reason is that IIRC you reported error messages that indicate drive damage or failure. You generally can't fix that, and I have sometimes found that in these situations chkdsk does more damage that good. In any case, if the drive is developing errors, it has become unreliable and should be replaced. You really need to connect the drive to something else and try to get the data off before you do anything else. Once you have the data safely off, you can try whatever you want. But you probably can't rely on the drive, so why waste your time? HTH -pk > > I was staring at the dreaded blue screen > of death - a suitable name for any video game disaster. But this was no > game. It was a warning from Windows of a dangerous error that brought my > PC > to a dead stop. > At first I didn't worry. Stuff happens, even stuff this drastic. Even the > text of the error message notes that by saying to just restart the PC if > the > error isn't one that is frequently encountered. It wasn't a frequent > problem, so I did restart. Or tried to. The blue screen of death greeted > me > again. > > Now, here's what you should do if that happens to you. In most cases, > it'll > fix the problem: > > Use the Windows installation CD to restart the computer. You'll eventually > get to a screen that offers the opportunity to press the "r" key to get to > the Windows Recovery console. Once there, you can type this command: > chkdsk/p
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