can only boot into xp

July 25, 2008

I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on the

first and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.

now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard drive for

the boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.

how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when i want? my

hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then what drive i want or

have that option when i start the pc like from os choice menu that comes up

for some people on their systems when they dual boot.

thanks.

July 25, 2008

Re: can only boot into xp

"AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on the first

>and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.

>

> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard drive for the

> boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.

>

> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when i want? my

> hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then what drive i want or

> have that option when i start the pc like from os choice menu that comes up

> for some people on their systems when they dual boot.

>

> thanks.

>

You might want to see if this program helps with this issue.

VistaBootPRO 3.3

http://www.vistabootpro.org/

Install the program in XP.

Launch the program and click on System Bootloader.

Under System Bootloader Maintenance, select Windows Vista Bootloader.

Select All drives and hit the Install Bootloader button.

Restart and see if you can access Vista.

On a side note, here's an issue that you might want to consider addressing.

No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista or Windows Server

2008 in a dual-boot configuration together with an earlier Windows operating

system

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185/en-us

Good luck

Nepatsfan

July 25, 2008

Re: can only boot into xp

Here is a list of instructions for what Nepatsfan suggested:

http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm

"AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on the first

>and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.

>

> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard drive for the

> boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.

>

> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when i want? my

> hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then what drive i want or

> have that option when i start the pc like from os choice menu that comes up

> for some people on their systems when they dual boot.

>

> thanks.

>

July 25, 2008

Re: can only boot into xp

"Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

news:%230phNKf7IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

> news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on the

>>first and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.

>>

>> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard drive

>> for the boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.

>>

>> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when i want?

>> my hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then what drive i

>> want or have that option when i start the pc like from os choice menu

>> that comes up for some people on their systems when they dual boot.

>>

>> thanks.

>>

>

> You might want to see if this program helps with this issue.

>

> VistaBootPRO 3.3

> http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>

> Install the program in XP.

> Launch the program and click on System Bootloader.

> Under System Bootloader Maintenance, select Windows Vista Bootloader.

> Select All drives and hit the Install Bootloader button.

> Restart and see if you can access Vista.

>

> On a side note, here's an issue that you might want to consider

> addressing.

>

> No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista or Windows

> Server 2008 in a dual-boot configuration together with an earlier Windows

> operating system

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185/en-us

>

> Good luck

>

> Nepatsfan

>

Yeah cept i aint about to loose the system restore feature and all this

seems way too complex for me. i just want to from within xp clear the boot

inof and then be able to boot into vista and have durring the boot a menu

that says vista and windows xp. i don't know if you can accomplish this all

from within xp. to clear the boot info and reboot having the vista boot menu

show vista and xp.

July 25, 2008

Re: can only boot into xp

"AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

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>

> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

> news:%230phNKf7IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>> news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on the first

>>>and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.

>>>

>>> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard drive for

>>> the boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.

>>>

>>> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when i want? my

>>> hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then what drive i want or

>>> have that option when i start the pc like from os choice menu that comes up

>>> for some people on their systems when they dual boot.

>>>

>>> thanks.

>>>

>>

>> You might want to see if this program helps with this issue.

>>

>> VistaBootPRO 3.3

>> http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>

>> Install the program in XP.

>> Launch the program and click on System Bootloader.

>> Under System Bootloader Maintenance, select Windows Vista Bootloader.

>> Select All drives and hit the Install Bootloader button.

>> Restart and see if you can access Vista.

>>

>> On a side note, here's an issue that you might want to consider addressing.

>>

>> No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista or Windows Server

>> 2008 in a dual-boot configuration together with an earlier Windows operating

>> system

>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185/en-us

>>

>> Good luck

>>

>> Nepatsfan

>>

>

> Yeah cept i aint about to loose the system restore feature and all this seems

> way too complex for me. i just want to from within xp clear the boot inof and

> then be able to boot into vista and have durring the boot a menu that says

> vista and windows xp. i don't know if you can accomplish this all from within

> xp. to clear the boot info and reboot having the vista boot menu show vista

> and xp.

>

The usual method of creating a dual boot system is to install the older

operating system, in this case Windows XP, first and then install the newer OS,

Vista. That way, Vista's bootloader will take both operating systems into

account and present you with a menu when you start the computer where you can

choose which version of Windows you want to run. You did the exact opposite,

installed the older OS last. That's why you can't boot into Vista. XP wiped out

Vista's bootloader and replaced it with its own.

As for fixing your problem, you could boot from the Vista installation DVD and

select the 'Repair your computer' option. You'd have to ask someone in the Vista

newsgroup but I believe if you do that you'll lose the ability to boot into XP.

With that in mind, I suggested you try VistaBootPRO. Running VistaBootPRO from

within Windows XP is the easiest way to restore your ability to boot into Vista

and retain the option of booting into XP. Once you restore the Vista bootloader,

you'll see a menu at startup that gives you an option to boot into Vista or XP.

As for System Restore on Vista, I believe that when you get Vista up and running

again you'll find that any restore points that were created prior to installing

XP will be gone. You might want to ask for some clarification on the Vista

newsgroup but the only way I know of preventing that from happening on a dual

boot system is to hide the Vista installation from XP.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

July 25, 2008

Re: can only boot into xp

See thats the issue, i aiont gong to use that vistaboot thing since it

deletes system restore data, so thats out of the question.

"Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

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> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

> news:%23nF9Q0f7IHA.4108@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

>> news:%230phNKf7IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>>> news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on the

>>>>first and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.

>>>>

>>>> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard drive

>>>> for the boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.

>>>>

>>>> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when i

>>>> want? my hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then what

>>>> drive i want or have that option when i start the pc like from os

>>>> choice menu that comes up for some people on their systems when they

>>>> dual boot.

>>>>

>>>> thanks.

>>>>

>>>

>>> You might want to see if this program helps with this issue.

>>>

>>> VistaBootPRO 3.3

>>> http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>

>>> Install the program in XP.

>>> Launch the program and click on System Bootloader.

>>> Under System Bootloader Maintenance, select Windows Vista Bootloader.

>>> Select All drives and hit the Install Bootloader button.

>>> Restart and see if you can access Vista.

>>>

>>> On a side note, here's an issue that you might want to consider

>>> addressing.

>>>

>>> No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista or Windows

>>> Server 2008 in a dual-boot configuration together with an earlier

>>> Windows operating system

>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185/en-us

>>>

>>> Good luck

>>>

>>> Nepatsfan

>>>

>>

>> Yeah cept i aint about to loose the system restore feature and all this

>> seems way too complex for me. i just want to from within xp clear the

>> boot inof and then be able to boot into vista and have durring the boot a

>> menu that says vista and windows xp. i don't know if you can accomplish

>> this all from within xp. to clear the boot info and reboot having the

>> vista boot menu show vista and xp.

>>

>

> The usual method of creating a dual boot system is to install the older

> operating system, in this case Windows XP, first and then install the

> newer OS, Vista. That way, Vista's bootloader will take both operating

> systems into account and present you with a menu when you start the

> computer where you can choose which version of Windows you want to run.

> You did the exact opposite, installed the older OS last. That's why you

> can't boot into Vista. XP wiped out Vista's bootloader and replaced it

> with its own.

>

> As for fixing your problem, you could boot from the Vista installation DVD

> and select the 'Repair your computer' option. You'd have to ask someone in

> the Vista newsgroup but I believe if you do that you'll lose the ability

> to boot into XP. With that in mind, I suggested you try VistaBootPRO.

> Running VistaBootPRO from within Windows XP is the easiest way to restore

> your ability to boot into Vista and retain the option of booting into XP.

> Once you restore the Vista bootloader, you'll see a menu at startup that

> gives you an option to boot into Vista or XP.

>

> As for System Restore on Vista, I believe that when you get Vista up and

> running again you'll find that any restore points that were created prior

> to installing XP will be gone. You might want to ask for some

> clarification on the Vista newsgroup but the only way I know of preventing

> that from happening on a dual boot system is to hide the Vista

> installation from XP.

>

> Good luck

>

> Nepatsfan

>

July 25, 2008

Re: can only boot into xp

"AMDX2" <s@s.com> écrivait news:OzUnLvi7IHA.5596@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> See thats the issue, i aiont gong to use that vistaboot thing since it

> deletes system restore data, so thats out of the question.

>

> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

> news:OAXnu7g7IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>> news:%23nF9Q0f7IHA.4108@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

>>> news:%230phNKf7IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on

>>>>>the first and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.

>>>>>

>>>>> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard

>>>>> drive for the boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.

>>>>>

>>>>> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when

>>>>> i want? my hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then

>>>>> what drive i want or have that option when i start the pc like

>>>>> from os choice menu that comes up for some people on their systems

>>>>> when they dual boot.

>>>>>

>>>>> thanks.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> You might want to see if this program helps with this issue.

>>>>

>>>> VistaBootPRO 3.3

>>>> http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>

>>>> Install the program in XP.

>>>> Launch the program and click on System Bootloader.

>>>> Under System Bootloader Maintenance, select Windows Vista

>>>> Bootloader. Select All drives and hit the Install Bootloader

>>>> button. Restart and see if you can access Vista.

>>>>

>>>> On a side note, here's an issue that you might want to consider

>>>> addressing.

>>>>

>>>> No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista or

>>>> Windows Server 2008 in a dual-boot configuration together with an

>>>> earlier Windows operating system

>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185/en-us

>>>>

>>>> Good luck

>>>>

>>>> Nepatsfan

>>>>

>>>

>>> Yeah cept i aint about to loose the system restore feature and all

>>> this seems way too complex for me. i just want to from within xp

>>> clear the boot inof and then be able to boot into vista and have

>>> durring the boot a menu that says vista and windows xp. i don't know

>>> if you can accomplish this all from within xp. to clear the boot

>>> info and reboot having the vista boot menu show vista and xp.

>>>

>>

>> The usual method of creating a dual boot system is to install the

>> older operating system, in this case Windows XP, first and then

>> install the newer OS, Vista. That way, Vista's bootloader will take

>> both operating systems into account and present you with a menu when

>> you start the computer where you can choose which version of Windows

>> you want to run. You did the exact opposite, installed the older OS

>> last. That's why you can't boot into Vista. XP wiped out Vista's

>> bootloader and replaced it with its own.

>>

>> As for fixing your problem, you could boot from the Vista

>> installation DVD and select the 'Repair your computer' option. You'd

>> have to ask someone in the Vista newsgroup but I believe if you do

>> that you'll lose the ability to boot into XP. With that in mind, I

>> suggested you try VistaBootPRO. Running VistaBootPRO from within

>> Windows XP is the easiest way to restore your ability to boot into

>> Vista and retain the option of booting into XP. Once you restore the

>> Vista bootloader, you'll see a menu at startup that gives you an

>> option to boot into Vista or XP.

>>

>> As for System Restore on Vista, I believe that when you get Vista up

>> and running again you'll find that any restore points that were

>> created prior to installing XP will be gone. You might want to ask

>> for some clarification on the Vista newsgroup but the only way I know

>> of preventing that from happening on a dual boot system is to hide

>> the Vista installation from XP.

>>

>> Good luck

>>

>> Nepatsfan

>>

>

I don't think it's VistaBootPro that deletes restore points but it's the

fact that you run Vista with an older OS without hiding the Vista part

from the older OS. Your restore points in Vista are probably already

gone.

Doum

July 25, 2008

Re: can only boot into xp

First off, I think you've misunderstood the point I was trying to make in my

earlier response. System Restore is a feature available in Windows Vista. I'm

getting the impression that you have it confused with some sort of system

recovery that many computer manufacturers provide to restore the computer's

operating system. The files for this recovery are usually stored on a hidden

partition. That's not what I'm talking about.

As Duom has already pointed out VistaBootPRO isn't the reason why you lose

restore points. The reason is pointed out in the Microsoft article I cited

earlier.

I see in the Vista General newsgroup you've tried fixing this problem using

bcdedit.exe. VistaBootPRO does the same thing as bcdedit.exe except it provides

a graphical interface as opposed to using the command prompt. As a matter of

fact, it allows you to change the timeout value and the text for the entries on

the boot menu on the "Manage OS Entries" tab.

Nepatsfan

"AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message news:OzUnLvi7IHA.5596@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> See thats the issue, i aiont gong to use that vistaboot thing since it deletes

> system restore data, so thats out of the question.

>

> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

> news:OAXnu7g7IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>> news:%23nF9Q0f7IHA.4108@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

>>> news:%230phNKf7IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on the

>>>>>first and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.

>>>>>

>>>>> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard drive for

>>>>> the boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.

>>>>>

>>>>> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when i want?

>>>>> my hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then what drive i

>>>>> want or have that option when i start the pc like from os choice menu that

>>>>> comes up for some people on their systems when they dual boot.

>>>>>

>>>>> thanks.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> You might want to see if this program helps with this issue.

>>>>

>>>> VistaBootPRO 3.3

>>>> http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>

>>>> Install the program in XP.

>>>> Launch the program and click on System Bootloader.

>>>> Under System Bootloader Maintenance, select Windows Vista Bootloader.

>>>> Select All drives and hit the Install Bootloader button.

>>>> Restart and see if you can access Vista.

>>>>

>>>> On a side note, here's an issue that you might want to consider addressing.

>>>>

>>>> No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista or Windows

>>>> Server 2008 in a dual-boot configuration together with an earlier Windows

>>>> operating system

>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185/en-us

>>>>

>>>> Good luck

>>>>

>>>> Nepatsfan

>>>>

>>>

>>> Yeah cept i aint about to loose the system restore feature and all this

>>> seems way too complex for me. i just want to from within xp clear the boot

>>> inof and then be able to boot into vista and have durring the boot a menu

>>> that says vista and windows xp. i don't know if you can accomplish this all

>>> from within xp. to clear the boot info and reboot having the vista boot menu

>>> show vista and xp.

>>>

>>

>> The usual method of creating a dual boot system is to install the older

>> operating system, in this case Windows XP, first and then install the newer

>> OS, Vista. That way, Vista's bootloader will take both operating systems into

>> account and present you with a menu when you start the computer where you can

>> choose which version of Windows you want to run. You did the exact opposite,

>> installed the older OS last. That's why you can't boot into Vista. XP wiped

>> out Vista's bootloader and replaced it with its own.

>>

>> As for fixing your problem, you could boot from the Vista installation DVD

>> and select the 'Repair your computer' option. You'd have to ask someone in

>> the Vista newsgroup but I believe if you do that you'll lose the ability to

>> boot into XP. With that in mind, I suggested you try VistaBootPRO. Running

>> VistaBootPRO from within Windows XP is the easiest way to restore your

>> ability to boot into Vista and retain the option of booting into XP. Once you

>> restore the Vista bootloader, you'll see a menu at startup that gives you an

>> option to boot into Vista or XP.

>>

>> As for System Restore on Vista, I believe that when you get Vista up and

>> running again you'll find that any restore points that were created prior to

>> installing XP will be gone. You might want to ask for some clarification on

>> the Vista newsgroup but the only way I know of preventing that from happening

>> on a dual boot system is to hide the Vista installation from XP.

>>

>> Good luck

>>

>> Nepatsfan

>>

>

July 25, 2008

Re: can only boot into xp

"Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

news:eY6KF3m7IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> First off, I think you've misunderstood the point I was trying to make in

> my earlier response. System Restore is a feature available in Windows

> Vista. I'm getting the impression that you have it confused with some sort

> of system recovery that many computer manufacturers provide to restore the

> computer's operating system. The files for this recovery are usually

> stored on a hidden partition. That's not what I'm talking about.

>

> As Duom has already pointed out VistaBootPRO isn't the reason why you lose

> restore points. The reason is pointed out in the Microsoft article I cited

> earlier.

>

> I see in the Vista General newsgroup you've tried fixing this problem

> using bcdedit.exe. VistaBootPRO does the same thing as bcdedit.exe except

> it provides a graphical interface as opposed to using the command prompt.

> As a matter of fact, it allows you to change the timeout value and the

> text for the entries on the boot menu on the "Manage OS Entries" tab.

>

> Nepatsfan

>

> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

> news:OzUnLvi7IHA.5596@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> See thats the issue, i aiont gong to use that vistaboot thing since it

>> deletes system restore data, so thats out of the question.

>>

>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

>> news:OAXnu7g7IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>>> news:%23nF9Q0f7IHA.4108@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:%230phNKf7IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on

>>>>>>the first and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard

>>>>>> drive for the boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when i

>>>>>> want? my hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then what

>>>>>> drive i want or have that option when i start the pc like from os

>>>>>> choice menu that comes up for some people on their systems when they

>>>>>> dual boot.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> thanks.

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> You might want to see if this program helps with this issue.

>>>>>

>>>>> VistaBootPRO 3.3

>>>>> http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>

>>>>> Install the program in XP.

>>>>> Launch the program and click on System Bootloader.

>>>>> Under System Bootloader Maintenance, select Windows Vista Bootloader.

>>>>> Select All drives and hit the Install Bootloader button.

>>>>> Restart and see if you can access Vista.

>>>>>

>>>>> On a side note, here's an issue that you might want to consider

>>>>> addressing.

>>>>>

>>>>> No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista or Windows

>>>>> Server 2008 in a dual-boot configuration together with an earlier

>>>>> Windows operating system

>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185/en-us

>>>>>

>>>>> Good luck

>>>>>

>>>>> Nepatsfan

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Yeah cept i aint about to loose the system restore feature and all this

>>>> seems way too complex for me. i just want to from within xp clear the

>>>> boot inof and then be able to boot into vista and have durring the boot

>>>> a menu that says vista and windows xp. i don't know if you can

>>>> accomplish this all from within xp. to clear the boot info and reboot

>>>> having the vista boot menu show vista and xp.

>>>>

>>>

>>> The usual method of creating a dual boot system is to install the older

>>> operating system, in this case Windows XP, first and then install the

>>> newer OS, Vista. That way, Vista's bootloader will take both operating

>>> systems into account and present you with a menu when you start the

>>> computer where you can choose which version of Windows you want to run.

>>> You did the exact opposite, installed the older OS last. That's why you

>>> can't boot into Vista. XP wiped out Vista's bootloader and replaced it

>>> with its own.

>>>

>>> As for fixing your problem, you could boot from the Vista installation

>>> DVD and select the 'Repair your computer' option. You'd have to ask

>>> someone in the Vista newsgroup but I believe if you do that you'll lose

>>> the ability to boot into XP. With that in mind, I suggested you try

>>> VistaBootPRO. Running VistaBootPRO from within Windows XP is the easiest

>>> way to restore your ability to boot into Vista and retain the option of

>>> booting into XP. Once you restore the Vista bootloader, you'll see a

>>> menu at startup that gives you an option to boot into Vista or XP.

>>>

>>> As for System Restore on Vista, I believe that when you get Vista up and

>>> running again you'll find that any restore points that were created

>>> prior to installing XP will be gone. You might want to ask for some

>>> clarification on the Vista newsgroup but the only way I know of

>>> preventing that from happening on a dual boot system is to hide the

>>> Vista installation from XP.

>>>

>>> Good luck

>>>

>>> Nepatsfan

>>>

>>

>

So by using the bcdedit I did the same thing as the Vista thing? lol.

I know what you mean by system restore, I know it's not the same as system

recovery which is a partition made for that. I just didn't/don't want to

loose that ability. XP does it too.

Since you said that Vista thing is the same as what I've already done is it

posisble or likely my Vista restore points are gone? Also you said it was

easier as it's a GUI based program so i'll like that much better and will

give it a go now.

When you loose the restore points, is that only the ones created before

using that Vista thing or does it mean forever thus rendering system restore

useless?

July 26, 2008

Re: can only boot into xp

"Doum" <me@domain.net> wrote in message

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> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> écrivait news:OzUnLvi7IHA.5596@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

>

>> See thats the issue, i aiont gong to use that vistaboot thing since it

>> deletes system restore data, so thats out of the question.

>>

>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

>> news:OAXnu7g7IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>>> news:%23nF9Q0f7IHA.4108@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:%230phNKf7IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on

>>>>>>the first and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard

>>>>>> drive for the boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when

>>>>>> i want? my hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then

>>>>>> what drive i want or have that option when i start the pc like

>>>>>> from os choice menu that comes up for some people on their systems

>>>>>> when they dual boot.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> thanks.

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> You might want to see if this program helps with this issue.

>>>>>

>>>>> VistaBootPRO 3.3

>>>>> http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>

>>>>> Install the program in XP.

>>>>> Launch the program and click on System Bootloader.

>>>>> Under System Bootloader Maintenance, select Windows Vista

>>>>> Bootloader. Select All drives and hit the Install Bootloader

>>>>> button. Restart and see if you can access Vista.

>>>>>

>>>>> On a side note, here's an issue that you might want to consider

>>>>> addressing.

>>>>>

>>>>> No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista or

>>>>> Windows Server 2008 in a dual-boot configuration together with an

>>>>> earlier Windows operating system

>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185/en-us

>>>>>

>>>>> Good luck

>>>>>

>>>>> Nepatsfan

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Yeah cept i aint about to loose the system restore feature and all

>>>> this seems way too complex for me. i just want to from within xp

>>>> clear the boot inof and then be able to boot into vista and have

>>>> durring the boot a menu that says vista and windows xp. i don't know

>>>> if you can accomplish this all from within xp. to clear the boot

>>>> info and reboot having the vista boot menu show vista and xp.

>>>>

>>>

>>> The usual method of creating a dual boot system is to install the

>>> older operating system, in this case Windows XP, first and then

>>> install the newer OS, Vista. That way, Vista's bootloader will take

>>> both operating systems into account and present you with a menu when

>>> you start the computer where you can choose which version of Windows

>>> you want to run. You did the exact opposite, installed the older OS

>>> last. That's why you can't boot into Vista. XP wiped out Vista's

>>> bootloader and replaced it with its own.

>>>

>>> As for fixing your problem, you could boot from the Vista

>>> installation DVD and select the 'Repair your computer' option. You'd

>>> have to ask someone in the Vista newsgroup but I believe if you do

>>> that you'll lose the ability to boot into XP. With that in mind, I

>>> suggested you try VistaBootPRO. Running VistaBootPRO from within

>>> Windows XP is the easiest way to restore your ability to boot into

>>> Vista and retain the option of booting into XP. Once you restore the

>>> Vista bootloader, you'll see a menu at startup that gives you an

>>> option to boot into Vista or XP.

>>>

>>> As for System Restore on Vista, I believe that when you get Vista up

>>> and running again you'll find that any restore points that were

>>> created prior to installing XP will be gone. You might want to ask

>>> for some clarification on the Vista newsgroup but the only way I know

>>> of preventing that from happening on a dual boot system is to hide

>>> the Vista installation from XP.

>>>

>>> Good luck

>>>

>>> Nepatsfan

>>>

>>

>

> I don't think it's VistaBootPro that deletes restore points but it's the

> fact that you run Vista with an older OS without hiding the Vista part

> from the older OS. Your restore points in Vista are probably already

> gone.

>

> Doum

>

Yeah I know that vista app isn't the one that deletes. I was just saying is

all.

I don't know how to copy from dos.

July 26, 2008

Re: can only boot into xp

"AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

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> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

> news:eY6KF3m7IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> First off, I think you've misunderstood the point I was trying to make in my

>> earlier response. System Restore is a feature available in Windows Vista. I'm

>> getting the impression that you have it confused with some sort of system

>> recovery that many computer manufacturers provide to restore the computer's

>> operating system. The files for this recovery are usually stored on a hidden

>> partition. That's not what I'm talking about.

>>

>> As Duom has already pointed out VistaBootPRO isn't the reason why you lose

>> restore points. The reason is pointed out in the Microsoft article I cited

>> earlier.

>>

>> I see in the Vista General newsgroup you've tried fixing this problem using

>> bcdedit.exe. VistaBootPRO does the same thing as bcdedit.exe except it

>> provides a graphical interface as opposed to using the command prompt. As a

>> matter of fact, it allows you to change the timeout value and the text for

>> the entries on the boot menu on the "Manage OS Entries" tab.

>>

>> Nepatsfan

>>

>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>> news:OzUnLvi7IHA.5596@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> See thats the issue, i aiont gong to use that vistaboot thing since it

>>> deletes system restore data, so thats out of the question.

>>>

>>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

>>> news:OAXnu7g7IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23nF9Q0f7IHA.4108@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>

>>>>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:%230phNKf7IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on the

>>>>>>>first and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard drive

>>>>>>> for the boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when i

>>>>>>> want? my hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then what

>>>>>>> drive i want or have that option when i start the pc like from os choice

>>>>>>> menu that comes up for some people on their systems when they dual boot.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> thanks.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> You might want to see if this program helps with this issue.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> VistaBootPRO 3.3

>>>>>> http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Install the program in XP.

>>>>>> Launch the program and click on System Bootloader.

>>>>>> Under System Bootloader Maintenance, select Windows Vista Bootloader.

>>>>>> Select All drives and hit the Install Bootloader button.

>>>>>> Restart and see if you can access Vista.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> On a side note, here's an issue that you might want to consider

>>>>>> addressing.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista or Windows

>>>>>> Server 2008 in a dual-boot configuration together with an earlier Windows

>>>>>> operating system

>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185/en-us

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Good luck

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Nepatsfan

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Yeah cept i aint about to loose the system restore feature and all this

>>>>> seems way too complex for me. i just want to from within xp clear the boot

>>>>> inof and then be able to boot into vista and have durring the boot a menu

>>>>> that says vista and windows xp. i don't know if you can accomplish this

>>>>> all from within xp. to clear the boot info and reboot having the vista

>>>>> boot menu show vista and xp.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> The usual method of creating a dual boot system is to install the older

>>>> operating system, in this case Windows XP, first and then install the newer

>>>> OS, Vista. That way, Vista's bootloader will take both operating systems

>>>> into account and present you with a menu when you start the computer where

>>>> you can choose which version of Windows you want to run. You did the exact

>>>> opposite, installed the older OS last. That's why you can't boot into

>>>> Vista. XP wiped out Vista's bootloader and replaced it with its own.

>>>>

>>>> As for fixing your problem, you could boot from the Vista installation DVD

>>>> and select the 'Repair your computer' option. You'd have to ask someone in

>>>> the Vista newsgroup but I believe if you do that you'll lose the ability to

>>>> boot into XP. With that in mind, I suggested you try VistaBootPRO. Running

>>>> VistaBootPRO from within Windows XP is the easiest way to restore your

>>>> ability to boot into Vista and retain the option of booting into XP. Once

>>>> you restore the Vista bootloader, you'll see a menu at startup that gives

>>>> you an option to boot into Vista or XP.

>>>>

>>>> As for System Restore on Vista, I believe that when you get Vista up and

>>>> running again you'll find that any restore points that were created prior

>>>> to installing XP will be gone. You might want to ask for some clarification

>>>> on the Vista newsgroup but the only way I know of preventing that from

>>>> happening on a dual boot system is to hide the Vista installation from XP.

>>>>

>>>> Good luck

>>>>

>>>> Nepatsfan

>>>>

> So by using the bcdedit I did the same thing as the Vista thing? lol.

> I know what you mean by system restore, I know it's not the same as system

> recovery which is a partition made for that. I just didn't/don't want to loose

> that ability. XP does it too.

>

> Since you said that Vista thing is the same as what I've already done is it

> posisble or likely my Vista restore points are gone? Also you said it was

> easier as it's a GUI based program so i'll like that much better and will give

> it a go now.

>

> When you loose the restore points, is that only the ones created before using

> that Vista thing or does it mean forever thus rendering system restore

> useless?

>

Odds are that any restore points that were created in Vista were deleted the

first time you booted into Windows XP. You can check by booting Vista and

running System Restore. Here's what you'll probably see displayed.

Vista System Restore

http://home.comcast.net/~nepatsfan2005/VistaSR.jpg

If you're curious, click on where it says System Protection and create a restore

point. Restart your computer and boot into XP. Restart your computer again

except this time boot into Vista. Run System Restore. The restore point you just

created will be gone.

This will continue to happen any time you boot into XP. The only way I know to

prevent this from happening is to hide the drive where Vista is installed from

Windows XP. That's done by editing XP's registry as described in the Microsoft

article I cited earlier.

Nepatsfan

July 26, 2008

Re: can only boot into xp

"Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

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> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

> news:%23u5PPJr7IHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

>> news:eY6KF3m7IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> First off, I think you've misunderstood the point I was trying to make

>>> in my earlier response. System Restore is a feature available in Windows

>>> Vista. I'm getting the impression that you have it confused with some

>>> sort of system recovery that many computer manufacturers provide to

>>> restore the computer's operating system. The files for this recovery are

>>> usually stored on a hidden partition. That's not what I'm talking about.

>>>

>>> As Duom has already pointed out VistaBootPRO isn't the reason why you

>>> lose restore points. The reason is pointed out in the Microsoft article

>>> I cited earlier.

>>>

>>> I see in the Vista General newsgroup you've tried fixing this problem

>>> using bcdedit.exe. VistaBootPRO does the same thing as bcdedit.exe

>>> except it provides a graphical interface as opposed to using the command

>>> prompt. As a matter of fact, it allows you to change the timeout value

>>> and the text for the entries on the boot menu on the "Manage OS Entries"

>>> tab.

>>>

>>> Nepatsfan

>>>

>>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>>> news:OzUnLvi7IHA.5596@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> See thats the issue, i aiont gong to use that vistaboot thing since it

>>>> deletes system restore data, so thats out of the question.

>>>>

>>>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:OAXnu7g7IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:%23nF9Q0f7IHA.4108@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:%230phNKf7IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on

>>>>>>>>the first and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard

>>>>>>>> drive for the boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when i

>>>>>>>> want? my hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then

>>>>>>>> what drive i want or have that option when i start the pc like from

>>>>>>>> os choice menu that comes up for some people on their systems when

>>>>>>>> they dual boot.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> thanks.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> You might want to see if this program helps with this issue.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> VistaBootPRO 3.3

>>>>>>> http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Install the program in XP.

>>>>>>> Launch the program and click on System Bootloader.

>>>>>>> Under System Bootloader Maintenance, select Windows Vista

>>>>>>> Bootloader.

>>>>>>> Select All drives and hit the Install Bootloader button.

>>>>>>> Restart and see if you can access Vista.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On a side note, here's an issue that you might want to consider

>>>>>>> addressing.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista or

>>>>>>> Windows Server 2008 in a dual-boot configuration together with an

>>>>>>> earlier Windows operating system

>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185/en-us

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Good luck

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Nepatsfan

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Yeah cept i aint about to loose the system restore feature and all

>>>>>> this seems way too complex for me. i just want to from within xp

>>>>>> clear the boot inof and then be able to boot into vista and have

>>>>>> durring the boot a menu that says vista and windows xp. i don't know

>>>>>> if you can accomplish this all from within xp. to clear the boot info

>>>>>> and reboot having the vista boot menu show vista and xp.

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> The usual method of creating a dual boot system is to install the

>>>>> older operating system, in this case Windows XP, first and then

>>>>> install the newer OS, Vista. That way, Vista's bootloader will take

>>>>> both operating systems into account and present you with a menu when

>>>>> you start the computer where you can choose which version of Windows

>>>>> you want to run. You did the exact opposite, installed the older OS

>>>>> last. That's why you can't boot into Vista. XP wiped out Vista's

>>>>> bootloader and replaced it with its own.

>>>>>

>>>>> As for fixing your problem, you could boot from the Vista installation

>>>>> DVD and select the 'Repair your computer' option. You'd have to ask

>>>>> someone in the Vista newsgroup but I believe if you do that you'll

>>>>> lose the ability to boot into XP. With that in mind, I suggested you

>>>>> try VistaBootPRO. Running VistaBootPRO from within Windows XP is the

>>>>> easiest way to restore your ability to boot into Vista and retain the

>>>>> option of booting into XP. Once you restore the Vista bootloader,

>>>>> you'll see a menu at startup that gives you an option to boot into

>>>>> Vista or XP.

>>>>>

>>>>> As for System Restore on Vista, I believe that when you get Vista up

>>>>> and running again you'll find that any restore points that were

>>>>> created prior to installing XP will be gone. You might want to ask for

>>>>> some clarification on the Vista newsgroup but the only way I know of

>>>>> preventing that from happening on a dual boot system is to hide the

>>>>> Vista installation from XP.

>>>>>

>>>>> Good luck

>>>>>

>>>>> Nepatsfan

>>>>>

>> So by using the bcdedit I did the same thing as the Vista thing? lol.

>> I know what you mean by system restore, I know it's not the same as

>> system recovery which is a partition made for that. I just didn't/don't

>> want to loose that ability. XP does it too.

>>

>> Since you said that Vista thing is the same as what I've already done is

>> it posisble or likely my Vista restore points are gone? Also you said it

>> was easier as it's a GUI based program so i'll like that much better and

>> will give it a go now.

>>

>> When you loose the restore points, is that only the ones created before

>> using that Vista thing or does it mean forever thus rendering system

>> restore useless?

>>

>

> Odds are that any restore points that were created in Vista were deleted

> the first time you booted into Windows XP. You can check by booting Vista

> and running System Restore. Here's what you'll probably see displayed.

>

> Vista System Restore

> http://home.comcast.net/~nepatsfan2005/VistaSR.jpg

>

> If you're curious, click on where it says System Protection and create a

> restore point. Restart your computer and boot into XP. Restart your

> computer again except this time boot into Vista. Run System Restore. The

> restore point you just created will be gone.

>

> This will continue to happen any time you boot into XP. The only way I

> know to prevent this from happening is to hide the drive where Vista is

> installed from Windows XP. That's done by editing XP's registry as

> described in the Microsoft article I cited earlier.

>

> Nepatsfan

>

Except I don't want to hide vista as it's on its own hard drive and i want

to have as much space as possible for downloads etc. So I can't hide the

vista hard drive.

So just by having xp means no longer will vista be able to system restore

anytime you boot in xp? that's a load of crap that it doesn't work anymore.

i totally am blown away and don't see how it's even possible when i bet you

linux wouldn't do any of this.

if by doing the install this way makes vista not work in restore anymore

then i'll be happy with using the bios boot option menu to do this and

select either hard drive. then at least i won't loose system restore.

or is there anyohter way so system restore aint broken?

July 26, 2008

Re: can only boot into xp

"AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message news:uHbggOy7IHA.2016@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

> news:ezu92nr7IHA.4112@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>> news:%23u5PPJr7IHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

>>> news:eY6KF3m7IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> First off, I think you've misunderstood the point I was trying to make in

>>>> my earlier response. System Restore is a feature available in Windows

>>>> Vista. I'm getting the impression that you have it confused with some sort

>>>> of system recovery that many computer manufacturers provide to restore the

>>>> computer's operating system. The files for this recovery are usually stored

>>>> on a hidden partition. That's not what I'm talking about.

>>>>

>>>> As Duom has already pointed out VistaBootPRO isn't the reason why you lose

>>>> restore points. The reason is pointed out in the Microsoft article I cited

>>>> earlier.

>>>>

>>>> I see in the Vista General newsgroup you've tried fixing this problem using

>>>> bcdedit.exe. VistaBootPRO does the same thing as bcdedit.exe except it

>>>> provides a graphical interface as opposed to using the command prompt. As a

>>>> matter of fact, it allows you to change the timeout value and the text for

>>>> the entries on the boot menu on the "Manage OS Entries" tab.

>>>>

>>>> Nepatsfan

>>>>

>>>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:OzUnLvi7IHA.5596@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>> See thats the issue, i aiont gong to use that vistaboot thing since it

>>>>> deletes system restore data, so thats out of the question.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:OAXnu7g7IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:%23nF9Q0f7IHA.4108@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:%230phNKf7IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:eLLK25e7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>I have 2 hard drives. Vista home premium sp1 64bit was installed on the

>>>>>>>>>first and I just installed windows xp pro on the second drive.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> now i can't get into vista anymore even when selecting that hard drive

>>>>>>>>> for the boot drive in my bios. i only can boot into xp.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> how do i fix that so i can boot in vista and then boot in xp when i

>>>>>>>>> want? my hope is i want to get in bios and select boot menu then what

>>>>>>>>> drive i want or have that option when i start the pc like from os

>>>>>>>>> choice menu that comes up for some people on their systems when they

>>>>>>>>> dual boot.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> thanks.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> You might want to see if this program helps with this issue.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> VistaBootPRO 3.3

>>>>>>>> http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Install the program in XP.

>>>>>>>> Launch the program and click on System Bootloader.

>>>>>>>> Under System Bootloader Maintenance, select Windows Vista Bootloader.

>>>>>>>> Select All drives and hit the Install Bootloader button.

>>>>>>>> Restart and see if you can access Vista.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On a side note, here's an issue that you might want to consider

>>>>>>>> addressing.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista or Windows

>>>>>>>> Server 2008 in a dual-boot configuration together with an earlier

>>>>>>>> Windows operating system

>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185/en-us

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Good luck

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Nepatsfan

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Yeah cept i aint about to loose the system restore feature and all this

>>>>>>> seems way too complex for me. i just want to from within xp clear the

>>>>>>> boot inof and then be able to boot into vista and have durring the boot

>>>>>>> a menu that says vista and windows xp. i don't know if you can

>>>>>>> accomplish this all from within xp. to clear the boot info and reboot

>>>>>>> having the vista boot menu show vista and xp.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> The usual method of creating a dual boot system is to install the older

>>>>>> operating system, in this case Windows XP, first and then install the

>>>>>> newer OS, Vista. That way, Vista's bootloader will take both operating

>>>>>> systems into account and present you with a menu when you start the

>>>>>> computer where you can choose which version of Windows you want to run.

>>>>>> You did the exact opposite, installed the older OS last. That's why you

>>>>>> can't boot into Vista. XP wiped out Vista's bootloader and replaced it

>>>>>> with its own.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> As for fixing your problem, you could boot from the Vista installation

>>>>>> DVD and select the 'Repair your computer' option. You'd have to ask

>>>>>> someone in the Vista newsgroup but I believe if you do that you'll lose

>>>>>> the ability to boot into XP. With that in mind, I suggested you try

>>>>>> VistaBootPRO. Running VistaBootPRO from within Windows XP is the easiest

>>>>>> way to restore your ability to boot into Vista and retain the option of

>>>>>> booting into XP. Once you restore the Vista bootloader, you'll see a menu

>>>>>> at startup that gives you an option to boot into Vista or XP.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> As for System Restore on Vista, I believe that when you get Vista up and

>>>>>> running again you'll find that any restore points that were created prior

>>>>>> to installing XP will be gone. You might want to ask for some

>>>>>> clarification on the Vista newsgroup but the only way I know of

>>>>>> preventing that from happening on a dual boot system is to hide the Vista

>>>>>> installation from XP.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Good luck

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Nepatsfan

>>>>>>

>>> So by using the bcdedit I did the same thing as the Vista thing? lol.

>>> I know what you mean by system restore, I know it's not the same as system

>>> recovery which is a partition made for that. I just didn't/don't want to

>>> loose that ability. XP does it too.

>>>

>>> Since you said that Vista thing is the same as what I've already done is it

>>> posisble or likely my Vista restore points are gone? Also you said it was

>>> easier as it's a GUI based program so i'll like that much better and will

>>> give it a go now.

>>>

>>> When you loose the restore points, is that only the ones created before

>>> using that Vista thing or does it mean forever thus rendering system restore

>>> useless?

>>>

>>

>> Odds are that any restore points that were created in Vista were deleted the

>> first time you booted into Windows XP. You can check by booting Vista and

>> running System Restore. Here's what you'll probably see displayed.

>>

>> Vista System Restore

>> http://home.comcast.net/~nepatsfan2005/VistaSR.jpg

>>

>> If you're curious, click on where it says System Protection and create a

>> restore point. Restart your computer and boot into XP. Restart your computer

>> again except this time boot into Vista. Run System Restore. The restore point

>> you just created will be gone.

>>

>> This will continue to happen any time you boot into XP. The only way I know

>> to prevent this from happening is to hide the drive where Vista is installed

>> from Windows XP. That's done by editing XP's registry as described in the

>> Microsoft article I cited earlier.

>>

>> Nepatsfan

>>

>

> Except I don't want to hide vista as it's on its own hard drive and i want to

> have as much space as possible for downloads etc. So I can't hide the vista

> hard drive.

>

> So just by having xp means no longer will vista be able to system restore

> anytime you boot in xp? that's a load of crap that it doesn't work anymore. i

> totally am blown away and don't see how it's even possible when i bet you

> linux wouldn't do any of this.

>

> if by doing the install this way makes vista not work in restore anymore then

> i'll be happy with using the bios boot option menu to do this and select

> either hard drive. then at least i won't loose system restore.

>

> or is there anyohter way so system restore aint broken?

>

You might want to ask about the issue with system restore in the Vista General

newsgroup. It's possible that someone there knows a method where you don't have

to hide the Vista drive from XP.

Good luck

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