Guest Peter Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 I am trying to repair a friend's computer. She has XP SP1. I have an SP2 disk that came with another computer. Can I use that disk to repair and update her computer? The problem she is having is that Internet Explorer opens then closes right away, so I cannot get on-line to manage the updates she needs.
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 Re: XP updates 1. Format & reinstall WinXP, using either the CD(s) that came with her machine or the hidden Recovery partition. (A Repair Install will not help!) 2. If the reinstall leaves the machine running WinXP SP1, skip SP2 (all post-SP2 updates) and install WinXP SP3 manually. WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3-read-all-prerequisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx 3. Now do Method 1 and/or Method 2 here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 4. Go to Windows Update and install all security updates offered. NB: I do NOT recommend installing IE7 via Windows Update or Automatic Updates! 5. Make certain that Automatic Updates is enabled and properly configured: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525 6. Take care of everything else on this page: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html Or take the machine to a local, reputable, and independent (i.e., not BigBoxStore USA or Geek Squad) and have them do all of the above. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ Peter wrote: > I am trying to repair a friend's computer. She has XP SP1. I have an SP2 > disk that came with another computer. Can I use that disk to repair and > update her computer? The problem she is having is that Internet Explorer > opens then closes right away, so I cannot get on-line to manage the > updates > she needs.
Guest Peter Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Re: XP updates So, if Internet Explorer is the only program not working, a full reinstall is the only option? "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > 1. Format & reinstall WinXP, using either the CD(s) that came with her > machine or the hidden Recovery partition. (A Repair Install will not help!) > > 2. If the reinstall leaves the machine running WinXP SP1, skip SP2 (all > post-SP2 updates) and install WinXP SP3 manually. > > WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation > http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3-read-all-prerequisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx > > 3. Now do Method 1 and/or Method 2 here: > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 > > 4. Go to Windows Update and install all security updates offered. > > NB: I do NOT recommend installing IE7 via Windows Update or Automatic > Updates! > > 5. Make certain that Automatic Updates is enabled and properly configured: > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525 > > 6. Take care of everything else on this page: > http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html > > Or take the machine to a local, reputable, and independent (i.e., not > BigBoxStore USA or Geek Squad) and have them do all of the above. > -- > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 > AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net > DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ > > > Peter wrote: > > I am trying to repair a friend's computer. She has XP SP1. I have an SP2 > > disk that came with another computer. Can I use that disk to repair and > > update her computer? The problem she is having is that Internet Explorer > > opens then closes right away, so I cannot get on-line to manage the > > updates > > she needs. > >
Guest The Real Truth MVP Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Re: XP updates No it is not, don't listen to that PA Bear drunk. Use my free FixIE Tool. Download it here http://pcbutts1.com/downloads/tools/tools.htm You can save it to a usb stick and run it from there. If that does not work then you can download IE7 here but you need to install SP2 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=9AE91EBE-3385-447C-8A30-081805B2F90B&displaylang=en or get IE6 full version http://www.updatexp.com/download-ie6.html or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/downloads/critical/ie6sp1/default.mspx -- Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. "Peter" <Peter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4152CCF9-A3F8-4EAA-8A26-9C9C9DEF0200@microsoft.com... > So, if Internet Explorer is the only program not working, a full reinstall > is > the only option? > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > >> 1. Format & reinstall WinXP, using either the CD(s) that came with her >> machine or the hidden Recovery partition. (A Repair Install will not >> help!) >> >> 2. If the reinstall leaves the machine running WinXP SP1, skip SP2 (all >> post-SP2 updates) and install WinXP SP3 manually. >> >> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3-read-all-prerequisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx >> >> 3. Now do Method 1 and/or Method 2 here: >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 >> >> 4. Go to Windows Update and install all security updates offered. >> >> NB: I do NOT recommend installing IE7 via Windows Update or Automatic >> Updates! >> >> 5. Make certain that Automatic Updates is enabled and properly >> configured: >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525 >> >> 6. Take care of everything else on this page: >> http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html >> >> Or take the machine to a local, reputable, and independent (i.e., not >> BigBoxStore USA or Geek Squad) and have them do all of the above. >> -- >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 >> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net >> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ >> >> >> Peter wrote: >> > I am trying to repair a friend's computer. She has XP SP1. I have an >> > SP2 >> > disk that came with another computer. Can I use that disk to repair >> > and >> > update her computer? The problem she is having is that Internet >> > Explorer >> > opens then closes right away, so I cannot get on-line to manage the >> > updates >> > she needs. >> >>
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Re: XP updates Please ignore this imposter. Do NOT download anything from the website! The Real Truth MVP wrote: > No it is not, don't listen to that PA Bear drunk. Use my free FixIE Tool. > Download it here http://pcbutts1.com/downloads/tools/tools.htm You can > save > it to a usb stick and run it from there. If that does not work then you > can > download IE7 here but you need to install SP2 > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=9AE91EBE-3385-447C-8A30-081805B2F90B&displaylang=en > or get IE6 full version http://www.updatexp.com/download-ie6.html or > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/downloads/critical/ie6sp1/default.mspx > > > > "Peter" <Peter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:4152CCF9-A3F8-4EAA-8A26-9C9C9DEF0200@microsoft.com... >> So, if Internet Explorer is the only program not working, a full >> reinstall >> is >> the only option? >> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: >> >>> 1. Format & reinstall WinXP, using either the CD(s) that came with her >>> machine or the hidden Recovery partition. (A Repair Install will not >>> help!) >>> >>> 2. If the reinstall leaves the machine running WinXP SP1, skip SP2 (all >>> post-SP2 updates) and install WinXP SP3 manually. >>> >>> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation >>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3-read-all-prerequisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx >>> >>> 3. Now do Method 1 and/or Method 2 here: >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 >>> >>> 4. Go to Windows Update and install all security updates offered. >>> >>> NB: I do NOT recommend installing IE7 via Windows Update or Automatic >>> Updates! >>> >>> 5. Make certain that Automatic Updates is enabled and properly >>> configured: >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525 >>> >>> 6. Take care of everything else on this page: >>> http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html >>> >>> Or take the machine to a local, reputable, and independent (i.e., not >>> BigBoxStore USA or Geek Squad) and have them do all of the above. >>> -- >>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 >>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net >>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ >>> >>> >>> Peter wrote: >>>> I am trying to repair a friend's computer. She has XP SP1. I have an >>>> SP2 >>>> disk that came with another computer. Can I use that disk to repair >>>> and >>>> update her computer? The problem she is having is that Internet >>>> Explorer >>>> opens then closes right away, so I cannot get on-line to manage the >>>> updates >>>> she needs.
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Re: XP updates That'd be the fastest way to resolve the problem, yes. (IE isn't "infected," Windows is!) Or you could run a /thorough/ check for hijackware, including posting your hijackthis log to an appropriate forum. Checking for/Help with Hijackware http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878 http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_Removal_and_Prevention:_Introduction http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/ http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware When all else fails, HijackThis v2.0.2 (http://aumha.org/downloads/hijackthis.exe) is the preferred tool to use (in conjuction with some other utilities). HijackThis will NOT fix anything on its own, but it will help you to both identify and remove any hijackware/spyware with assistance from an expert. **Post your log to http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30, http://forums.spybot.info/forumdisplay.php?f=22, http://castlecops.com/forum67.html, or other appropriate forums for review by an expert in such matters, not here.** If the procedures look too complex - and there is no shame in admitting this isn't your cup of tea - take the machine to a local, reputable and independent (i.e., not BigBoxStoreUSA or Geek Squad) computer repair shop. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ Peter wrote: > So, if Internet Explorer is the only program not working, a full reinstall > is the only option? > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > >> 1. Format & reinstall WinXP, using either the CD(s) that came with her >> machine or the hidden Recovery partition. (A Repair Install will not >> help!) >> >> 2. If the reinstall leaves the machine running WinXP SP1, skip SP2 (all >> post-SP2 updates) and install WinXP SP3 manually. >> >> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3-read-all-prerequisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx >> >> 3. Now do Method 1 and/or Method 2 here: >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 >> >> 4. Go to Windows Update and install all security updates offered. >> >> NB: I do NOT recommend installing IE7 via Windows Update or Automatic >> Updates! >> >> 5. Make certain that Automatic Updates is enabled and properly >> configured: >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525 >> >> 6. Take care of everything else on this page: >> http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html >> >> Or take the machine to a local, reputable, and independent (i.e., not >> BigBoxStore USA or Geek Squad) and have them do all of the above. >> -- >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 >> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net >> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ >> >> >> Peter wrote: >>> I am trying to repair a friend's computer. She has XP SP1. I have an >>> SP2 >>> disk that came with another computer. Can I use that disk to repair and >>> update her computer? The problem she is having is that Internet >>> Explorer >>> opens then closes right away, so I cannot get on-line to manage the >>> updates >>> she needs.
Guest HeyBub Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Re: XP updates Peter wrote: > I am trying to repair a friend's computer. She has XP SP1. I have > an SP2 disk that came with another computer. Can I use that disk to > repair and update her computer? The problem she is having is that > Internet Explorer opens then closes right away, so I cannot get > on-line to manage the updates she needs. Immediate closing of a program is NOT an indicator that the program is damaged. If it was damaged, it usually won't open at all - at least not without a very loud moan or error message. No, the program is doing what it is told to do. Your task is to ferret out who or what is telling it to close. The most obvious category of something amiss is malware, especially since you don't know the history of this box.
Guest Mike Hall - MVP Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Re: XP updates "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message news:gOuik.33988$ZE5.965@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com... > No it is not, don't listen to that PA Bear drunk. Use my free FixIE Tool. > Download it here http://pcbutts1.com/downloads/tools/tools.htm You can > save it to a usb stick and run it from there. If that does not work then > you can download IE7 here but you need to install SP2 > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=9AE91EBE-3385-447C-8A30-081805B2F90B&displaylang=en > or get IE6 full version http://www.updatexp.com/download-ie6.html or > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/downloads/critical/ie6sp1/default.mspx > > > -- > Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been > obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. > > > > > "Peter" <Peter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:4152CCF9-A3F8-4EAA-8A26-9C9C9DEF0200@microsoft.com... >> So, if Internet Explorer is the only program not working, a full >> reinstall is >> the only option? >> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: >> >>> 1. Format & reinstall WinXP, using either the CD(s) that came with her >>> machine or the hidden Recovery partition. (A Repair Install will not >>> help!) >>> >>> 2. If the reinstall leaves the machine running WinXP SP1, skip SP2 (all >>> post-SP2 updates) and install WinXP SP3 manually. >>> >>> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation >>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3-read-all-prerequisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx >>> >>> 3. Now do Method 1 and/or Method 2 here: >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 >>> >>> 4. Go to Windows Update and install all security updates offered. >>> >>> NB: I do NOT recommend installing IE7 via Windows Update or Automatic >>> Updates! >>> >>> 5. Make certain that Automatic Updates is enabled and properly >>> configured: >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525 >>> >>> 6. Take care of everything else on this page: >>> http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html >>> >>> Or take the machine to a local, reputable, and independent (i.e., not >>> BigBoxStore USA or Geek Squad) and have them do all of the above. >>> -- >>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 >>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net >>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ >>> >>> >>> Peter wrote: >>> > I am trying to repair a friend's computer. She has XP SP1. I have an >>> > SP2 >>> > disk that came with another computer. Can I use that disk to repair >>> > and >>> > update her computer? The problem she is having is that Internet >>> > Explorer >>> > opens then closes right away, so I cannot get on-line to manage the >>> > updates >>> > she needs. >>> >>> > Nobody should use anything from your site.. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
Guest Leythos Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Re: XP updates In article <gOuik.33988$ZE5.965@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>, toidi@tpap.com says... > Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been > obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. > Do you really want to trust someone that was banned from posting directly to Microsoft Usenet servers, someone that has posted links to pornographic materials on HIS WEBSITE, who's website is in the MVP HOST Block list, and who provides a tool for your use that will block access to reputable anti-malware sites without telling you he's doing it? And do you really want to trust someone that has had to change their posting identity after being busted by MS as a fake MVP? -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
Guest Peter Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 Re: XP updates Thanks for the responses. It looks like the computer is so near lease expiration she'll use Firefox and get a Mac laptop. "HeyBub" wrote: > Peter wrote: > > I am trying to repair a friend's computer. She has XP SP1. I have > > an SP2 disk that came with another computer. Can I use that disk to > > repair and update her computer? The problem she is having is that > > Internet Explorer opens then closes right away, so I cannot get > > on-line to manage the updates she needs. > > Immediate closing of a program is NOT an indicator that the program is > damaged. If it was damaged, it usually won't open at all - at least not > without a very loud moan or error message. > > No, the program is doing what it is told to do. Your task is to ferret out > who or what is telling it to close. > > The most obvious category of something amiss is malware, especially since > you don't know the history of this box. > > >
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 Re: XP updates Who leased it before this? <eg> Peter wrote: > Thanks for the responses. It looks like the computer is so near lease > expiration she'll use Firefox and get a Mac laptop. > > "HeyBub" wrote: > >> Peter wrote: >>> I am trying to repair a friend's computer. She has XP SP1. I have >>> an SP2 disk that came with another computer. Can I use that disk to >>> repair and update her computer? The problem she is having is that >>> Internet Explorer opens then closes right away, so I cannot get >>> on-line to manage the updates she needs. >> >> Immediate closing of a program is NOT an indicator that the program is >> damaged. If it was damaged, it usually won't open at all - at least not >> without a very loud moan or error message. >> >> No, the program is doing what it is told to do. Your task is to ferret >> out >> who or what is telling it to close. >> >> The most obvious category of something amiss is malware, especially since >> you don't know the history of this box.
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