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I'm looking for software with which I can easily:

 

1. duplicate unprotected CD's or DVD's

 

2. create data file backups.

 

I was directed to Nero 8. But I found their website confusing. For example

the Nero 8 Ultimate web page describes a program BackItUp, but I'm not clear

whether this is a different program, or just a component of Nero.

 

In addition, the Nero 8 Ultimate program looks as though its designed for a

variety of tasks far beyond my needs.

 

I'm not worried about the price, as much as ending up with a highly complex

and hard to use program.

 

Please advise

 

--

 

PT

Posted

Re: Questions about Nero 8

 

Of great historical significance to all, "PT" <xyz@xyz.com>

declared on Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:24:57 -0700:

> I'm looking for software with which I can easily:

>

> 1. duplicate unprotected CD's or DVD's

>

> 2. create data file backups.

>

> I was directed to Nero 8. But I found their website

> confusing. For example the Nero 8 Ultimate web page

> describes a program BackItUp, but I'm not clear whether this

> is a different program, or just a component of Nero.

>

> In addition, the Nero 8 Ultimate program looks as though its

> designed for a variety of tasks far beyond my needs.

>

> I'm not worried about the price, as much as ending up with a

> highly complex and hard to use program.

>

> Please advise

>

> --

>

> PT

>

 

You might check out CDBurnerXP

<http://www.cdburnerxp.se/>

 

I've seen it recommended in these groups before.

 

Also, even though the name is CDBurner if you check the Features page, it says it does DVDs as well. Plus it free.

 

hth

--

cfnewsDO@NOTmchsi.SPAMcom

"I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid."

- Terry Bradshaw -

Guest sandy58
Posted

Re: Questions about Nero 8

 

On Jul 27, 4:24 am, "PT" <x...@xyz.com> wrote:

> I'm looking for software with which I can easily:

>

> 1. duplicate unprotected CD's or DVD's

>

> 2. create data file backups.

>

> I was directed to Nero 8. But I found their website confusing. For example

> the Nero 8 Ultimate web page describes a program BackItUp, but I'm not clear

> whether this is a different program, or just a component of Nero.

>

> In addition, the Nero 8 Ultimate program looks as though its designed for a

> variety of tasks far beyond my needs.

>

> I'm not worried about the price, as much as ending up with a highly complex

> and hard to use program.

>

> Please advise

>

> --

>

> PT

 

Alcohol120% has the options to over-ride protection devices. ClonyXXL

(freebee) will detect which, if any, device is present on the cd/dvd

and a setting on Alcohol120% will avoid it.

Guest neutrino
Posted

Re: Questions about Nero 8

 

On Jul 27, 3:24 pm, "PT" <x...@xyz.com> wrote:

> I'm looking for software with which I can easily:

>

> 1.  duplicate unprotected CD's or DVD's

>

> 2.  create data file backups.

>

> I was directed to Nero 8.  But I found their website confusing.  For example

> the Nero 8 Ultimate web page describes a program BackItUp, but I'm not clear

> whether this is a different program, or just a component of Nero.

>

> In addition, the Nero 8 Ultimate program looks as though its designed for a

> variety of tasks far beyond my needs.

>

> I'm not worried about the price, as much as ending up with a highly complex

> and hard to use program.

>

> Please advise

>

> --

>

> PT

 

"Ashampoo Burning Studio" !!

excellent - easy to use.

Guest db.·.. >
Posted

Re: Questions about Nero 8

 

just head down to your

local computer store

and get the geek to

show what they have

and explain them to

you.

 

 

--

 

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

 

 

"PT" <xyz@xyz.com> wrote in message news:%23qnmbh57IHA.4820@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> I'm looking for software with which I can easily:

>

> 1. duplicate unprotected CD's or DVD's

>

> 2. create data file backups.

>

> I was directed to Nero 8. But I found their website confusing. For example the Nero 8 Ultimate web page describes a program

> BackItUp, but I'm not clear whether this is a different program, or just a component of Nero.

>

> In addition, the Nero 8 Ultimate program looks as though its designed for a variety of tasks far beyond my needs.

>

> I'm not worried about the price, as much as ending up with a highly complex and hard to use program.

>

> Please advise

>

> --

>

> PT

>

Guest John John (MVP)
Posted

Re: Questions about Nero 8

 

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db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:

> just head down to your

> local computer store

> and get the geek to

> show what they have

> and explain them to

> you.

>

>

Guest Doug W.
Posted

Re: Questions about Nero 8

 

It is possible that he is handicapped and has to use a stylus to

key in the postings. If that is the case, I guess that we can

forgive the short line length.

 

Doug W.

-

 

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

news:eCry7kE8IHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> g

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> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:

>

>> just head down to your

>> local computer store

>> and get the geek to

>> show what they have

>> and explain them to

>> you.

>>

Guest Bill in Co.
Posted

Re: Questions about Nero 8

 

He has never admited to that, though. So I'm not so sure.

 

Doug W. wrote:

> It is possible that he is handicapped and has to use a stylus to

> key in the postings. If that is the case, I guess that we can

> forgive the short line length.

>

> Doug W.

> -

>

> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

> news:eCry7kE8IHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> g

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>> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:

>>

>>> just head down to your

>>> local computer store

>>> and get the geek to

>>> show what they have

>>> and explain them to

>>> you.

Guest Bill in Co.
Posted

Re: Questions about Nero 8

 

L

O

L

 

John John (MVP) wrote:

> g

> e

> e,

>

> y

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> r

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> l

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>

>

> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:

>

>> just head down to your

>> local computer store

>> and get the geek to

>> show what they have

>> and explain them to

>> you.

Guest db.·.. >
Posted

Re: Questions about Nero 8

 

the time you have taken to

provide a sense of

understanding is appreciated.

 

however, after a number of

years here, i recommend to

reserve your time, compassion

and explanations for those

who are in need of assistance.

 

for cases such as these

involving mvp's who are not

qualified as professionals, it

is simply better not to

patronize their

unprofessionalism and

unwarranted remarks - no need

to feed them.

 

you see my friend, MVP is

really a Microsoft Volunteer

Program. MVP is not a

credential. it is simply a

general ledger account where

microsoft can calculate the

cost's they saved from not

paying for customer service.

 

i too could become a Microsoft

Volunteer and have a phony

credential provided, that is

if i wanted.

 

but i wouldn't take part in an

organization that allows and

permits the use of fear

mongering, manipulation and

antagonization. you may not

be aware but a few years ago,

bad MVP's group together like

a pack of dogs and verbally

attack people. today it is

much better now a days.

 

however, i do enjoy helping

people for free, during my

free time and without an ego

to serve.

 

you might enjoy this newsgroup

experience by simply placing

these mvp's and any others who

are just as antagonizing,

manipulative and egoistical on

your kill file.

 

in doing so you will not miss

anything of value from these

people and you will really

enjoy the q&a here.

 

in closing, as i have told

other mvp's, they are welcome

to tell the mvp administrators

to have the newsgroup rules

modified because of my

postings. i have

communicated with the MVP

program directors as well and

we seem to communicate quite

well.

 

until then i am within the

rules and regulations here,

unfortunately for the these so

called professionals.

 

 

 

--

 

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

 

"Doug W." <stand@attention>

wrote in message

news:eStOTOF8IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> It is possible that he is

> handicapped and has to use a

> stylus to key in the

> postings. If that is the

> case, I guess that we can

> forgive the short line

> length.

>

> Doug W.

> -

>

> "John John (MVP)"

> <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca>

> wrote in message

> news:eCry7kE8IHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> g

>> e

>> e,

>>

>> y

>> o

>> u

>> r

>>

>> l

>> i

>> n

>> e

>> s

>>

>> a

>> r

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>>

>>

>> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. .

>> wrote:

>>

>>> just head down to your

>>> local computer store

>>> and get the geek to

>>> show what they have

>>> and explain them to

>>> you.

>>>

Guest db.·.. >
Posted

PS

 

PS

 

btw: i should have mentioned

that there are a number of

knowledgeable professionals

who post on these newsgroups

and some of them "are" mvp's

whom i know would assist even

without an ego to feed.

 

--

 

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

 

"Doug W." <stand@attention>

wrote in message

news:eStOTOF8IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> It is possible that he is

> handicapped and has to use a

> stylus to key in the

> postings. If that is the

> case, I guess that we can

> forgive the short line

> length.

>

> Doug W.

> -

>

> "John John (MVP)"

> <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca>

> wrote in message

> news:eCry7kE8IHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> g

>> e

>> e,

>>

>> y

>> o

>> u

>> r

>>

>> l

>> i

>> n

>> e

>> s

>>

>> a

>> r

>> e

>>

>> g

>> e

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>> a

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>> d

>>

>> s

>> h

>> o

>> r

>> t

>> e

>> r.

>>

>>

>> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. .

>> wrote:

>>

>>> just head down to your

>>> local computer store

>>> and get the geek to

>>> show what they have

>>> and explain them to

>>> you.

>>>

Guest Bill in Co.
Posted

Re: Questions about Nero 8

 

This takes the cake for being egotistical, but not too surprisingly, though.

(Usually the ones who "doth protest too much" .. have something else to

worry about (like: a bit of projection, and missing their own reflection)

 

'nuff said.

> the time you have taken to

> provide a sense of

> understanding is appreciated.

>

> however, after a number of

> years here, i recommend to

> reserve your time, compassion

> and explanations for those

> who are in need of assistance.

>

> for cases such as these

> involving mvp's who are not

> qualified as professionals, it

> is simply better not to

> patronize their

> unprofessionalism and

> unwarranted remarks - no need

> to feed them.

>

> you see my friend, MVP is

> really a Microsoft Volunteer

> Program. MVP is not a

> credential. it is simply a

> general ledger account where

> microsoft can calculate the

> cost's they saved from not

> paying for customer service.

>

> i too could become a Microsoft

> Volunteer and have a phony

> credential provided, that is

> if i wanted.

>

> but i wouldn't take part in an

> organization that allows and

> permits the use of fear

> mongering, manipulation and

> antagonization. you may not

> be aware but a few years ago,

> bad MVP's group together like

> a pack of dogs and verbally

> attack people. today it is

> much better now a days.

>

> however, i do enjoy helping

> people for free, during my

> free time and without an ego

> to serve.

>

> you might enjoy this newsgroup

> experience by simply placing

> these mvp's and any others who

> are just as antagonizing,

> manipulative and egoistical on

> your kill file.

>

> in doing so you will not miss

> anything of value from these

> people and you will really

> enjoy the q&a here.

>

> in closing, as i have told

> other mvp's, they are welcome

> to tell the mvp administrators

> to have the newsgroup rules

> modified because of my

> postings. i have

> communicated with the MVP

> program directors as well and

> we seem to communicate quite

> well.

>

> until then i am within the

> rules and regulations here,

> unfortunately for the these so

> called professionals.

>

>

>

> --

>

> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

>

> "Doug W." <stand@attention>

> wrote in message

> news:eStOTOF8IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> It is possible that he is

>> handicapped and has to use a

>> stylus to key in the

>> postings. If that is the

>> case, I guess that we can

>> forgive the short line

>> length.

>>

>> Doug W.

>> -

>>

>> "John John (MVP)"

>> <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca>

>> wrote in message

>> news:eCry7kE8IHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> g

>>> e

>>> e,

>>>

>>> y

>>> o

>>> u

>>> r

>>>

>>> l

>>> i

>>> n

>>> e

>>> s

>>>

>>> a

>>> r

>>> e

>>>

>>> g

>>> e

>>> t

>>> t

>>> i

>>> n

>>> g

>>>

>>> s

>>> h

>>> o

>>> r

>>> t

>>> e

>>> r

>>>

>>> a

>>> n

>>> d

>>>

>>> s

>>> h

>>> o

>>> r

>>> t

>>> e

>>> r.

>>>

>>>

>>> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. .

>>> wrote:

>>>

>>>> just head down to your

>>>> local computer store

>>>> and get the geek to

>>>> show what they have

>>>> and explain them to

>>>> you.

Guest Bill in Co.
Posted

Re: Questions about Nero 8

 

"Doug W." <stand@attention>

> wrote in message

> news:eStOTOF8IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> It is possible that he is

> handicapped and has to use a

> stylus to key in the

> postings. If that is the

> case, I guess that we can

> forgive the short line

> length.

>

> Doug W.

 

THAT has NEVER been established (or much less, even acknowledged), by the

OP, Doug. So you're just speculating.

 

IF it were indeed the case, HE would have the courage to admit it when asked

about it (in which case, it would be understandable). But the FACT is, he

has never admitted that. So, I think that pretty well addresses the

validity of such a speculation.

Guest Doug W.
Posted

Re: Questions about Nero 8

 

 

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:uggcctR8IHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> "Doug W." <stand@attention>

>> wrote in message

>> news:eStOTOF8IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> It is possible that he is

>> handicapped and has to use a

>> stylus to key in the

>> postings. If that is the

>> case, I guess that we can

>> forgive the short line

>> length.

>>

>> Doug W.

>

> THAT has NEVER been established (or much less, even

> acknowledged), by the OP, Doug. So you're just speculating.

>

> IF it were indeed the case, HE would have the courage to admit

> it when asked about it (in which case, it would be

> understandable). But the FACT is, he has never admitted

> that. So, I think that pretty well addresses the validity of

> such a speculation.

>

Perhaps, if he set his line length on his outgoing messages to

at least 64 characters and use his SHIFT key to capitalize at

least one or two or three of the "i"s that he frequently uses,

we would recognize that his ability to communicate was slightly

above the newbie level.

-

Doug W.

-

Guest WindPipe
Posted

Re: Questions about Nero 8

 

 

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:uggcctR8IHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> "Doug W." <stand@attention>

>> wrote in message

>> news:eStOTOF8IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> It is possible that he is

>> handicapped and has to use a

>> stylus to key in the

>> postings. If that is the

>> case, I guess that we can

>> forgive the short line

>> length.

>>

>> Doug W.

>

> THAT has NEVER been established (or much less, even acknowledged), by the

> OP, Doug. So you're just speculating.

>

> IF it were indeed the case, HE would have the courage to admit it when

> asked about it (in which case, it would be understandable). But the FACT

> is, he has never admitted that. So, I think that pretty well addresses

> the validity of such a speculation.

>

 

In that case I guess it would be OK to call him 'The Scroll', I do more of

that reading his posts than actual reading. Plus I can't pronounce his name

(moniker, tag, ...).

 

- WindPipe

Guest WindPipe
Posted

Re: Questions about Nero 8

 

 

but, ... but, ... you are giving more to an organisation by buying it's

products than you are by assisting volunteers of that organisation. The

everyday, or day to day Windows XP users (consumers?) would gain as much as

Microsoft would by the assistance the MVPs here provide.

 

Also, "...ego is not a dirty word..." - Skyhooks.

 

- WindPipe

 

" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote

in message news:uBNpinL8IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> the time you have taken to provide a sense of understanding is

> appreciated.

>

> however, after a number of years here, i recommend to reserve your time,

> compassion and explanations for those

> who are in need of assistance.

>

> for cases such as these involving mvp's who are not qualified as

> professionals, it is simply better not to patronize their

> unprofessionalism and unwarranted remarks - no need to feed them.

>

> you see my friend, MVP is really a Microsoft Volunteer Program. MVP is

> not a credential. it is simply a general ledger account where microsoft

> can calculate the cost's they saved from not paying for customer service.

>

> i too could become a Microsoft Volunteer and have a phony credential

> provided, that is if i wanted.

>

> but i wouldn't take part in an organization that allows and permits the

> use of fear mongering, manipulation and antagonization. you may not be

> aware but a few years ago, bad MVP's group together like a pack of dogs

> and verbally attack people. today it is much better now a days.

>

> however, i do enjoy helping people for free, during my free time and

> without an ego to serve.

>

> you might enjoy this newsgroup experience by simply placing these mvp's

> and any others who are just as antagonizing, manipulative and egoistical

> on your kill file.

>

> in doing so you will not miss anything of value from these people and you

> will really enjoy the q&a here.

>

> in closing, as i have told other mvp's, they are welcome to tell the mvp

> administrators to have the newsgroup rules modified because of my

> postings. i have communicated with the MVP program directors as well and

> we seem to communicate quite well.

>

> until then i am within the rules and regulations here, unfortunately for

> the these so called professionals.

>

>

>

> --

>

> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

>

> "Doug W." <stand@attention> wrote in message

> news:eStOTOF8IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> It is possible that he is handicapped and has to use a stylus to key in

>> the postings. If that is the case, I guess that we can forgive the short

>> line length.

>>

>> Doug W.

>> -

>>

>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

>> news:eCry7kE8IHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> g

>>> e

>>> e,

>>>

>>> y

>>> o

>>> u

>>> r

>>>

>>> l

>>> i

>>> n

>>> e

>>> s

>>>

>>> a

>>> r

>>> e

>>>

>>> g

>>> e

>>> t

>>> t

>>> i

>>> n

>>> g

>>>

>>> s

>>> h

>>> o

>>> r

>>> t

>>> e

>>> r

>>>

>>> a

>>> n

>>> d

>>>

>>> s

>>> h

>>> o

>>> r

>>> t

>>> e

>>> r.

>>>

>>>

>>> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote:

>>>

>>>> just head down to your

>>>> local computer store

>>>> and get the geek to

>>>> show what they have

>>>> and explain them to

>>>> you.

>>>>

>

Guest Lil' Dave
Posted

Re: Questions about Nero 8

 

"PT" <xyz@xyz.com> wrote in message

news:%23qnmbh57IHA.4820@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> I'm looking for software with which I can easily:

>

> 1. duplicate unprotected CD's or DVD's

>

 

This, I suggest you mean, is any commercial CD or DVD that is NOT a game be

it PC, or whatever; or commerical pressed DVD movie. Typically its a

pressed CD or DVD written in ISO 9660 format, or perhaps a home made video

or movie. For instance, backing up your retail Office installation CD. Or

those with a boot agenda, with remainder in ISO 9660 format that you would

want to copy. For instance, backing up your retail or oem generic XP

installation CD.

> 2. create data file backups.

 

As long as they fit on the CD or DVD media, don't see a problem.

>

> I was directed to Nero 8. But I found their website confusing. For

> example the Nero 8 Ultimate web page describes a program BackItUp, but I'm

> not clear whether this is a different program, or just a component of

> Nero.

>

> In addition, the Nero 8 Ultimate program looks as though its designed for

> a variety of tasks far beyond my needs.

>

> I'm not worried about the price, as much as ending up with a highly

> complex and hard to use program.

>

> Please advise

>

> --

>

> PT

>

 

Nero was getting too complicated at version 5 for those 2 only needs you

address here. And, they've added alot along the way to make it more

difficult for the first time user with only a couple of basic needs when

using version 8.

--

Dave

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